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darth's broken voice modulator allowing anakin's own voice to crack through at times then the metallic voice and hearing both at once was a really cool touch
And then, as Obi-Wan realises that Anakin is gone and lowers his sabre, Vader’s face is left being illuminated by only his own red sabre making him look far more sinister. Beautifully done.
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did" A great line that makes Obi Wan's line in IV about Vader killing Luke's father technically true. Really cool stuff.
I feel like it would've been better if Vader said: You didn't kill Anakin, I did. After The Emperor told me, that she died because of me. So Anakin died, with his family. And Vader was born"
@@alfred.7yearsago932 It's not cap Hayden confirmed that himself in an interview that the close up shots are him but everything else like fights and full bodyshots were done by someone else since Hayden isn't tall enough to be Vader the entire time
When Vaders mask is sliced open by Obi wan you can truly see how Vader really has destroyed Anakin just by looking at his eyes, it’s almost zombie like, Honestly the acting in that scene from both Hayden and Ewan is simply incredibly, I had tears in my eyes and I can’t usually cry because of the medication I’m on!
That scene between Vader and Obi-Wan was one of the best scenes in all of Star Wars. And the way Vader smirked as he said he was the one who killed Anakin? That was just brutal. Shows how evil Vader truly is. And also; Obi-Wan in ANH: “He betrayed and murdered your father.” Vader in Obi-Wan finale: “I am not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker; I did.” Gotta give the writer’s credit, that really was beautifully done. Bravo
Yes, but doesnt it go against the main star wars quote? DV: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father. L: He told me enough. He told me you killed him! DV: No. I am your father. If he killed the father, the father is dead, one cant have 2 biological fathers LOL
@@anycullen21 Vader is his biological father. Obi Wan explains the death of Anakin was spiritual in RotJ. The man he was died, which Luke refuses to accept.
But they forgot to reference the "Obi-Wan once thought as you do" in reference to Luke saying: "Come with me..." They should have written in a way, that Obi-Wan tries to appeal to Anakin first for him to rejoin him and get rid of Vader. Could have been easily achieved by changing the opening exchange between them in this Episode. "Have you come to destroy me?" "No. I have come to rescue you." "Rescue me?!"... and then spin it into the conversation that leads to the "Anakin is dead. I killed him"-line.
@@elishawilson5342 Yeah yeah, I get that, but it was Vader who told Luke "Im your father". Anakin conceived the children back when he was still a loving person, not Vader. Theyre Anakins children. Him claiming Luke means not all of Anakin is dead in him, which means Luke was right not to lose faith
I always struggled with how PT Anakin and Darth Vader seemed like different people. I know that’s kind of the point, but they were so different that I wasn’t even feeling that one evolved from the other. This series - and in particular that fight - helped bridge that gap for me.
Yep. I always had the same difficulty. But this sold it to me. It also further informs how right George was to cast him. It also confirms what @starwarstheory has been saying for years, in that, the way Hayden played Anakin was entirely deliberate, even down to the voice. If Hayden had NOT played it that way this scene would not have worked as well as it did. 17 years later.
I had the same issue but it resolved with me in the Clone Wars when Anakin's slow dissolutionment with the jedi feels more natural and later with Rebels when we hear Clone Wars Anakin's voice coming from Vader. But I get what you're saying because this series also does that with Hayden finally talking like Vader instead of just being angry Hayden
@@Spongebrain97 if you pay close attention in revenge of the sith you can actually hear that after Anakin falls to the dark side and kills the younglings Hayden actually changes the cadence of his voice to match the way Vader talks instead of the way Anakin usually spoke. He really was the perfect choice for the role and it’s really a shame it took so long for a lot of people to see that
@@prometheus2881 nah having grown up with the prequels, even as a kid I knew Hayden was miscast as Vader. His line delivery wasn't great because Lucas since the way beginning wasn't good at directing his actors and I was never convinced of Anakin turning to the dark side. Aside from his mother dying, we don't see much of internal darkness for episodes 1 or 2. Everything is jam packed into episode 3 but felt incredibly rushed. From a story perspective it didn't register with me that Anakin would betray the jedi and kill children in a single evening and him being passed up as a master didn't seem like enough. Because his love story wasn't good with Padme, that explains why him being paranoid with her future death didn't translate well. Again for many people Anakin got fixed with the Clone Wars and that show is the reason why the prequel's flaws are easier to overlook. Having said all that I still do have nostalgia for Hayden and was glad that he got to reunite with Ewan and they both had better writers and a director who got better performances out of them here
It never worked for me, either. Anakin was presented as too good and then the turn in "Revenge of the Sith" was too quick. The Clone Wars got more dramatic but he was still a likeable hero and a less aggravating one.
I really liked how Anakin's voice kept fluctuating between Hayden and Jones. An excellent representation of how he still has this fight within himself between the good and the bad.
There is no internal struggle in this moment, no doubt. It's not symbolic. Everything he says in that moment is cruelly calculated, a move of psychological warfare. The distorted, fluctuating voice is there to for no other reason than to remind us that there is a person behind that suit so physically broken that he doesn't speak with his own voice anymore. There is no fight within himself, not until Empire Strikes Back.
@Thomas Kearse Lucky guess. You're right, I haven't. And I don't intend to either. Despite what the so-called "canon" EU has ever had to do with any of it, your statement does not invalidate mine. I will take Vader as the Lucas era films have presented him, and that will suffice. Not that anything in this Kenobi series even mattered or made a great deal of sense anyway. Much like the Sequels, it was ultimately pointless.
When Vader says **"I am not your failure"** , his face is covered in blue light as if Anakin Is accepting the apology from Obi wan . Then his face turns red , when Vader returns with darkness . This was so symbolising in a way that even though He's Darth Vader there's is still some Anakin left in him only those who really know him can take out .(Another instance Ashoka ) and Finally Master Qwai Gon for 5secs after two and a half decades Overally what a great short series which greatly connects the events , also keeping the characters comically accurate . I will be not mad or sad if we don't get a season 2 .
Dude, you're reading too much into it. The light thing is obviously symbolic, but the thing with the blue light is there as a fake-out. Obi-Wan doesn't "bring out the light in him", and neither does Ahsoka. Only Luke does that. Everything Vader says in this moment is calculated, it's cruel psychological warfare.
Anakin under vaders mask, hearing his voice mixed with vaders, the light turning from blue to red, him saying “you didn’t kill anakin, I did.” Incredibly sad, they did it perfectly
Leia could not lead on about her relationship to Obi Wan in the message because there was no guarantee who would get the droids and the message. Vader could have easily captured the droids and it would implicate her deeper than they felt she already was.
Sorry, It's clear in ANH That Obi-Wan and Leia never met each other before. When Vader strikes Ben down Leia is not all that upset about it, although she does comfort, Luke. Not the way you morn the passing of the man that save your life. Also did luke just forget about the time a crazy women try to kill him when he was ten? This is not Star War. It's product for Disney. They sprinkle in just enough of the old stuff to get us to watch this crap, and we keep falling for it.
@@jimonascout.4958 Buddy, this is fiction, not a historical record of real life, relax, things change and are expanded upon, even Lucas had stuff he changed or added in or wanted to give new context to. Stop so religiously clinging onto canon. Even George Lucas didn’t.
It seems like the only one who never truly gave up on Anakin, either briefly or completely, was Padme. She died still believing that there was still good in him, in spite of everything he'd done, to the Jedi and to her.
i honestly think that a movie version of this minus all the nonsense (like Reva) would have been better. as much as i love we got to see kid Leia i think she also took too much screen time from the reason this shows exists, to give us Vader versus Kenobi again.
oh my goodness, the scene where obiwan cuts off part of vader's mask shook me to tears - and obiwan's hello there to luke was another emotional moment for me. love leia and the holster with lola! super fun!
This was definitely the best episode of the series. I was not ready for the emotional impact of it. My heart broke when Obi Wan tearfully apologized for everything and we got James Earl Jones’ voice layered with Haiden’s. It was perfect and very reminiscent of Rebels. And the duel itself was awesome! I personally loved Reva’s arc and how things worked out for her too. I got a little teary when she was crying and feeling so much remorse and guilt and Obi Wan comforted her. I think you’re right, he almost def wishes he had that kind of interaction with Anakin after the duel. And freaking Palps! That made me happy. Same with my man Qui Gon. I was starting to worry he wouldn’t appear, but I’m so so glad he did. I’m also glad a lot of the plot holes were filled in. I’m almost positive Luke didn’t see Reva’s light saber. Oh and he finally said the line! I laughed with delight at that.
It was such a beautiful scene. Kudos to Ewan MacGregor and Hayden for doing their thing. Definitely brought closure to Obi Wans guilt and elevated Vaders character as it was ultimately Vader that killed Anakin
17:13 One small moment but this exchange and Owen facing Reva was between my favorite moments of the episode, the dude didn't stand a chance, even though Reva was injured, but he still stood his ground for as long as he could.
There's actually a line in a deleted scene from the OT where Luke is talking to his friend Biggs, and Biggs says something along the lines of "Luke your uncle cold hold back an entire tribe of sandpeople by himself" If anything, this show proved it: Ben and Beru are scrappers when it comes to protecting their own. As they should be, naturally! It's kind of funny to me how Beru was more ready than Owen was! Like "Oh, they're coming for my nephew? Okay, get the sawed offs and let's go!" I kinda need what really happened at the Lars homestead before Luke showed up and they were burned, that firefight mustve been epic and they went out like heroes, Im assuming until I see otherwise, lol!
Not gonna lie, i always love that in Star Wars. When people that doesn't have Force powers still have the guts to pick a fight against Jedi or Sith. It shows how brave they are.
If the first episode didn't already show us, this one really drove home that Uncle Owen is NOT that mf'er to mess with! And he's with the perfect mate, to boot! I wanna see THEM, pre-Luke. lol
8:30 the answer to that question lays with the Grand Inquisitors quote of, "revenge does wonders for the will to live". As the dark side feeds off emotions, revenge being one of the strongest, those that use its power tend to survive much more than Jedi. As well, Qui-gon was the one Jedi to rediscover force ghosts. So when Maul bested him he was already ready to pass onto the after life, he no longer needed to be alive and so he passed on more peacefully than the anger fueled "lives" of the Dark Siders usually live.
FINALLY someone who gets it!!! Even Palpatine himself says it in Revenge Of The Sith: "The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some would consider unnatural." The power to defy killing wounds and death itself is one of those abilities. Many Sith and Dark Side users have accomplished this. Maul and Vader being the biggest Canon examples of this.
I think it actually makes Anakin death more powerful as well. Darth Vader survived many times over by harnessing the dark side, but Anakin Skywalker could not (or would not) draw on the dark side following his redemption.
I’m happy Luke got to meet him briefly. It makes sense in a new hope when he sees Leia’s message and he says “obi wan kenobi? I wonder if she means old Ben kenobi”
I'm sure Luke was told about Obi-Wan as he grew up. I mean if anything were ever to happen to them, they would want Luke to know about Kenobi, even if only by name.
@@ThisIsMyFullName Which really just goes back to the fact that it makes sense that they've at least met. This here is Ben, he's a friend of the family. He lives out in the Junland Wastes. If anything happens, if you ever need help and we're not here, you can go to him.
It makes complete sense. Luke probably would've seen a younger Obi Wan talking to a Qui Gon he couldn't see and assumed he was a crazy hermit. It actually fits perfectly to why they called Ben a crazy old hermit. He was wandering Tatooine talking to a ghost
The obi wan vs vader and the ashoka vs vader fights were pure poetry. Down to ashoka taking off the right side of vaders mask and obi wan taking off the left. Only luke could remove the full mask of vader to bring back anakin.
What i adore most is Leia herself and her actress, not only was her performance amazing at such a young age, but knowing Carrie Fisher and the legacy she left behind, knowing who Leia becomes in the future - a rebel, a fighter for the people, fighting against the Empire - something about this all just made me really tear up in joy. :)
23:40 when I watched this episode I couldn't stop laughing at palps face. Had that "oh shit this guy is really pissed off, and that scares me" look on his face then hits him with the "you look a little angry there buddy, you ok?"
There are some people who are confused that now that we see that Obi-Wan and Leia had a relationship, why doesn't she react when he is killed in ANH like Luke did?
@@gamestation2690 because she's a soldier. She just watched her planet (and family) get destroyed and she's still leading the charge to escape the Death Star. She knows how to keep her emotions in check when it's called for
@@leynaripley5250 She also didn't react much to it. Not only that but all in all, she was a child when that all happened and wasn't as emotionally attached to Obi-Wan as Luke was at the time he died.
@@DanielFernandez-gv6iy Yeah but like Grievous and Palpatine just want all the jedi dead. They didn't develop a specific obsessive compulsive hate fetish for Kenobi specifically.
As for letting Reva live, killing someone in cold blood, especially a former youngling who has faced such horror and despite that ultimately does not succumb to evil, is absolutely not the Jedi way. Ultimately I believe it shows how powerful Obi-Wan truly is that he trusts the Force, especially the living Force. I don't think it's a coincidence that's when Qui-Gon shows up. I mean, he's the one that was considered a bit of a rebel in the Jedi order. But that was to an order that was slowly losing their way, especially during the clone wars where they turned more into warriors than priests. For me those moments in this episode where he lets both Vader and Reva live show that Obi-Wan can finally shake that Clone Wars soldier side of himself and become a true Jedi again the way his master taught him.
@@jasonpallotto6841 I don't think so. Cere Junda has a complely different backstory. She was already a master during order 66 and she had a padawan who was corrupted into being an inquisitor.
She murdered so many people in cold blood. Okay, don't kill her but surely just letting her go her way because poor youngling with PTSD is not okay. But fine I guess. In all honesty though ending the 2022 Disney+ show with a cis white male actor chopping off Moses Ingram's head would have been hilarious. Would have probably ended the Disney company but still would have been funny.
@@Madagon367 Well that's nothing compared to how many people Vader killed and tortured, but Luke showed him mercy even before he redeemed himself in RotJ. Reva could have killed Luke before Obi-Wan ever got there, but she didn't. She did actually show true remorse and redeemed herself, so what kind of Jedi would that make Obi-Wan if he killed her or even captured her (and then what would he do with her?).
That rematch went hard! The Obi Wan vs Darth Vader we needed! a great pace and hard hitting even that half Mask Anakin connection with Obi-Wan made me Cry 🥺 I loved those few surprises at the end too! All round Amazing show! Easily one of my favorite Star Wars series
They had to EARN their John Williams themes from A New Hope and Empire. Those themes are for who they became. Darth Vader wasn't set until after the final fight. Obi Wan wasn't ready for his theme until he powered up and got over the funk he was in.
My love for the prequels made this very emotional for me. Obi-WAN’s broken “I’m sorry” just devastated me, Ewan did and amazing job. Hayden was able to encapsulate both Anakin and Vader with just half of his face showing, alternating between the blue and red lightsaber color on his face and the back in forth with the voice. Obviously mirroring his battle with Ahsoka. This show had its ups and downs but if this is the final impression of it I’d say it was very much worth it. May the Force be with you.
"General Kenobi you served my father in the clone wars" was probably a way to talk to Obi-Wan without revealing he was also "Ben". If someone evil found the message the message would not 'out' Ben's secret. Also, it makes it seem like Leia did not know/ meet General Kenobi. So it separated him from her past.
An awesome performance moment by Hayden. Super creepy and subtle having him smile at obi-wan when confessing to killing Anakin. Gives us a glimpse into what might be going on under the mask when Vader is completely covered. Glad Hayden could come back with a solid redemption.
With regards to when Vader later says "Obi Wan once thought as you do" I think it works. During this fight scene Obi Wan is indeed trying to reach out and apologize to Anakin but Vader doesn't want an apology. He said he killed Anakin, not Obi Wan, so pretty much there's no point in trying to reach out to Anakin since he's gone
Yessss! Obiwan goes from “I’m sorry, Anakin” to “Goodbye, Darth”, verbalizing his acceptance that Anakin Skywalker (“the good man I knew”) is dead. It’s a peace that he only could find once he re-centered himself in the force while in the pit - he lets go of his fear and guilt (the flashbacks voiceovers) and finds peace in thinking about the twins.
I think this continues the trend of most of the Disney star wars products. Quite a few flaws, some poor decisions, and some downright confusing decisions. But there's also some outstanding moments, there's some perfect scenes, and there's a lot of great acting. I hope we get a season 2. Ewan deserves it.
I agree some decisions are questionable but half of them are easily explained away. It’s just that half of this fandom would rather leach off of what they see or hear other people saying rather than to take the 5 seconds it takes to work out the easily excusable solutions for themselves.
@@greengreeneya2102 Its really not lmao. They're all bad. Attack of the Clones though is just so truly horrible. Not just in story, but everything. Bad acting. Horrible visuals. Bad directing.
The "hello there" and seeing Anakins face/voice under Vaders Helmet will forever go down in history as some of the greatest scenes in star wars history.
Hello Nikki & Steven .... The fight between Vader and Kenobi was epic. If you notice, every stoke or swipe from Anakin is a kill shot. He always goes for the head o vital organs. While Obi-Wan always deflects and redirects the blows coming at him. He wears down his adversary while Anakin constantly tries to overcome them. Kenobi shows Anakin how strong he can be, when he finally fully re-embraced the Force Reve has her trying moment of choice. If she kills Luke, she becomes Anakin, the person she hates for who he has become. And she couldn't do it. She could not kill a child. I don't think she knows that Luke, or Leia, are Anakin's/Vader's children. But that knowledge does come to light in later years after Return of the Jedi; during Heir to the Empire: the Thrawn Trilogy. FYI.... For those who know and don't know Quigon is leading Obi-Wan into Beggers Canyon in the final shot.
I loved that obi used thoughts of Luke and Leia and wanting to protect them as his strength when buried and it gave him faith to beat Vader. He also was more connected to the force after that and was able to see Luke being chased. It's like his love for them made him stronger and more in touch with the force. Incredible episode imo. That fight was chefs kiss, him hurling the rocks like it was nothing was so good
I’ve said it before, but Darth Vader's breathing has to be one of the most terrifying sounds in movie & tv history. When he wants to ignore the others and go after Ben, the Grand Inquisitor starts giving him the whole "he’s just one Jedi" speech, and when Vader starts with the breathing, I’m thinking "Let t go, man! Just shut up!" 😱
YESSSSS amazing reaction, you two! Loved, loved, LOVED this episode so much. I cried, I laughed, my heart melted. So thrilled to re-watch it with you two right after my own viewing. 🥳
Same ... when Obi said "Then my friend is truly dead" i remembered also Ashoka and Vader in Twilight of Aprentice from Rebels and that moment my heart cracked ... couldnt hold my tears , it was so good , loved this episode very much
I also view the blue faced anakin saying "i'm not your failure obi-wan" as one of the last glimmers of Anakin shining through to say "its not your fault" before Darth continues on through
Reva's survival: clearly, surviving mortal wounds through sheer rage is possible through the Dark Side. But also, physical injuries are not as straightforward and consistent as many seem to want to believe. Sometimes people survive wounds that should have been fatal, sometimes they die to wounds that others survive. One of the biggest curses of Star Wars fans is overthinking things and presuming that everything must work in a perfectly-consistent manner at all times (when not even real life isn't that consistent).
I agree about fans overthinking things. Any serialized content, especially content that has been around for nearly 50 years, is going to have some degree of inconsistencies.
I really liked this episode and the Obi-Wan/Vader fight .... I really loved the moments when their lightsabers hit and there was the hint of purple glow as well... just such a great detail to have. I held my breath for almost the whole time
Thank you, you two! You're the first reaction to this episode that I've been able to share the experience with, and it was wonderful. Thank you so much for being nerd-mates about this.
I disagree with this mindset. I liked the show overall, but you make it sound like one great final episode makes bad episodes okay. It doesn't. The best shows makes fans happy the entire time.
@@Billyregin I don’t mean that one good episode makes it okay to have bad ones, but people were upset that they didn’t get what they wanted from this show while the show wasn’t even over yet.
@@Billyregin yup. I liked it overall. but 1/3 of the series could’ve been deleted and replaced. Reva plot seemed fractured at best. Maybe more time on how she escaped the temple and not so much parkouring? I feel the glass was 3/4 full. So definitely glad I got what I did with the show. I would’ve loved more cuts back on Tatooine with Owen, Beru and Luke. Those parts I loved. Owen was truly a bad ass with no special powers besides love for his nephew and honoring he memory of his dad and step mom. again- not going to complain too much. Overall i liked it and it gave me a lot to enjoy. But I guarantee in the months to follow- there will be episodes or scenes I will skip over to get to the ones I like. With original trilogy (which I was kid when they came out in theaters) and the prequels? I don’t skip over things. I just put them in and marathon them so to speak. This one? Yeah. There will be some things I skip. But overall I am content. I would say a solid B or B+ with several parts bing in the A range.
The reaction that I've been waiting for! Fantastic reaction you two! 😊 Absolutely loved this episode! 11:07 The only time that I can recall Leia wearing a gun holster during the OT was in ROTJ during the battle on Endor. From here on out, I'm just going to say that it was Talia's. LOL! Finding that out will be a good excuse to watch movies later today. We got to see Owen and Beru fighting together to protect Luke. The EPIC Obi-Wan vs. Vader rematch. A redemption for Reva. Obi-Wan telling Leia how she inherented so many wonderful qualities of her parents, Padmè and Anakin. Obi-Wan then telling Leia, Bail, and Breha that if they ever need him they know where to find him. Obi-Wan getting to meet Luke. And finally the legend himself, Liam Neeson's cameo as the Force Ghost Qui-Gon. A HUGE round of applause to Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, Moses Ingram, and Vivian Lyra Blair for their amazing performances throughout this series. Looking forward to your next reaction. 😊
It was subtle in episode 5 but the grand inquisitor very subtly explains how she survived. He said something along the lines of “revenge does wonders for the will to live” pretty much saying reva and him both get stabbed and used revenge and anger to push through it.
The story of anakin Skywalker is seriously one of the greatest fictional stories ever told. Everything he ever went thru, and all the evil things he did. In the end, he did the right thing. He brought balance to the force and he saved his son. It's beautiful
After my first watch I was upset they let Obi Wan win and it not be a draw, then I realized Vader coulda killed him but left him buried. Then I rewatched and realized it was a beautiful duel, that no one won. It was almost poetic. Vader finally let go of Obi Wan at the end also. He had a glimpse of light side in him while talking to Kenobi with his mask half off.
Palpatine alluded to the fact that Vader's feelings for his old Master have weakened him! When Vader buried Obi-Wan he called him Master and also when they spoke, Anakin was there represented by the blue light of the lightsaber and only after the duel he was only Vader! Another point of note is that Obi-Wan gave up on Anakin not once but twice whereas Luke did not!
@@HiddenGhost00 yes Vader was definitely conflicted in that duel. You could tell he was in his feelings when the grand inquisitor said to go after the ship of people.
@@Billyregin not true. Hayden is in the suit alot. Its stuntman in full body shots and a stunt man in this epic rematch fight. But its always Hayden in any of the none full body/dialouge shots.
@@sh0cktim3 Even if thats true, most Vader scenes him have fighting or walking lmao. He literally has a stuntman do the walking scenes. Sorry, it was great to see Hayden again but people need to stop acting like he did so much of the Vader scenes. He didn't.
@@sh0cktim3 I can't appreciate it? What does that even mean lol. And LOL. Hate to break it to you, but Pedro was more often NOT wearing the mask. How do you think he's able to do so many other projects at the same time? Come on dude. Gotta use your head.
Kind of hoping Reva teams up with Quinlan Voss. That would be a spin-off or series I'd be so excited for. Quinlan would be very good for her, considering his past.
I hope not. I liked Reva on this show but I feel like the rebels working with someone who has hunted down and killed force sensitive children for years can't be forgiven.
@@martinsleight321 it would. I think since some other star wars shows that have been talked about don't have anything to do with the Skywalker's, we will get other planets involved with some different aliens.
Surviving grievous wounds is a theme with the dark side of the Force. The hate and the anger fuel them enough to survive injuries that would be lethal otherwise (there are several examples in the canon and also legends of this). Grand Inquisitor even said it during the episode 5. By the way this episode was AMAZING. 10/10. Redemption was always one of the main themes in Star Wars, it fit that Reva left at the end. She was back to the light side again.
It’s nice to see the stories acknowledge the importance of Breha and Bail Organa AND Beru and Owen Lars - yes Leia and Luke obviously have qualities of their birth parents, but their adoptive parents who raised them also instilled those qualities as well. It was good of Leia to answer to Obi Wan’s comment of how he wishes he could tell her more of her birth parents by saying that it’s okay because she already knows and looking at Breha and Bail because they are her parents too and is just as important to who she is. The show did a good balance of nature and nurture. Also Beru Whitesun Lars just really to throw hands at anyone coming after Luke is amazing
"Hey, Star Wars Rebels - can I copy your Darth Vader duel homework?" "Sure Obi-Wan, just make it look different so that it doesn't look like you just copied it." "Sure thing."
Exception of the episode 4 because they didn't think the science out of it, lightsabers heat is so hot that it coterized the wound, that's why we never see blood and guts even when sliced in half; That's how Darth Maul survived. So when it penetrate the body, if it does'nt puncture a vital organ, like real life stabbing, you survive
Exactly. Even in our own world, someone gets poked in the intestines, or the kidneys, they recover just fine (as long as they get the necessary medical attention). If she'd gotten poked through the heart, or the brain, she'd have been dead in a second. But Vader didn't stab her in those vital organs. He deliberately left her to die slowly. He legitimately didn't give a shit what she did afterward, even if she somehow survived, she was no threat to him anyhow.
In regards to Reva surviving the attack on Coruscant I think they were insinuating that Reva hid within the bodies of her youngling companions after they all perished except her; luckily missing Vaders stroke of his lightsaber. Would love to see where her character goes within the Star Wars mythos. I loved this series and this episode was literally the cherry on top. It brought the characters full circle and showcased "broken" Kenobi beautifully.
If she's 10 in the show, then by the time she sends her message to Kenobi it's almost 10yrs later. If I hadn't seen someone in 10yrs I'd be more likely to be a bit more formal. As a way of making sure they remember who I am. Especially if it is someone I've only seen for a few days. But yeah they rounded it off and cleared it up. And this ep was great. Felt like a very very good fan film.
I'm really happy they finally included the music too ... and little Leia's last outfit is super cute and I loved the last conversation between her and Obi-Wan ....
At least I'm not alone to notice Owen's stormtrooper marksmanship by missing the opening shot on Reva in an ambush position with her unaware. It's the same with that 501st clone in the series' first scene during Order 66 whose shots were way off target despite having the element of surprise on the younglings and their Jedi trainer.
@@Legoboy55able Also probably terrified, hands shaking, etc., with a weapon that may not have sights properly adjusted, in the dark, trying to hit a target wearing black clothing, etc.
Reva survived her stab wound the same way the Grand Inquisitor did - and the same way Maul did when he was bisected. That was the whole point of the Grand Inquisitor's comment last episode about revenge.
C'mon, Steven, the Force is infinite, all the time, everytime. Force users can only tap into so much at any one time. Vader had just pulled down a spaceship. You can't expect him to pull *another* spaceship, right away. Vader's getting up in years so he needs time to rest and recover before he can ... perform ... again. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3 little things that could have made the series perfect : 1) Duel of the Fate (or Battle of the Heroes), 2) red eyes for Anakin, 3) more flashbacks (during the Clone Wars for example)... but otherwise the final episode was excellent 🔥 thanks Disney 🙏
I totally agree with everything you've said, I'm so sad that it's over but so happy it was made and it tied up all what had lead up to a New Hope. I've always felt that Princess Leia had met Obi-wan before, that she had known him in a different way than how Luke had known him. I had always always felt that and then seeing that they did was amazing.
I don’t think Reva knows Luke is a Skywalker, more so that he means something to obi wan so she went there to take something from him as revenge for ep5, not because of who Luke is - worked out really well in my opinion because that was my biggest concern
Luke’s last name is Skywalker, they don’t exactly try to hide it, and it’s clear in her wording that she was intending on killing Luke for justice against Anakin
@@CaptainPikeachu as you hear on the audio Reva heard on the coms device, there was absolutely no link to him being a child of anakin skywalker, the only link was to kenobi, bale, tattooine and Owen… so she went there to spite kenobi not vader because that path and battle was already lost. Just my thoughts anyways…
I was just crying this episode and restart crying watching it again with you guys 😭😭😭😭 My only miss was Obi-Wan saying to Anakin/Vader something like: « Padme was wrong… » and then leave. BUT THIS WAS EMOTIONALLY PERFECT 💔😭
There's some ironic poetry in the moment when Obi-Wan struggles under the rock pile and he hears Anakin say "admit you are beaten", because in the flashback when Anakin says that, he uses the "Falling Avalanche" technique. It's part of his preferred lightsaber style, Djem So. It's the move where he repeatedly hammers straight down on the kneeling Obi-Wan (and it's also the same move Luke used to chop off Vader's hand years later). Again Obi-Wan finds himself at the mercy of an avalance, albeit this time it's for real, and again he breaks out from under it. Lovely touch they added there.
I thought for sure Reva would die too, but I'm okay with how they ended it. She's an interesting character they could do interesting things with, so I'll wait and see. I think Leia keeps it professional 😂 because anyone finding out she and Obi-Wan have a deeper relationship than that puts them both in danger. Yes, she was smarter than her father Bail, lol.
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darth's broken voice modulator allowing anakin's own voice to crack through at times then the metallic voice and hearing both at once was a really cool touch
I thought the same. That was amazing
Absolutely chilling.
i am not your failure. oBiwAaN
They did the same kinda thing in Rebels when Ahsoka broke his helmet
And then, as Obi-Wan realises that Anakin is gone and lowers his sabre, Vader’s face is left being illuminated by only his own red sabre making him look far more sinister. Beautifully done.
"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did" A great line that makes Obi Wan's line in IV about Vader killing Luke's father technically true. Really cool stuff.
Yep. Great tie in
You missed the chance for that line: "From a certain point of view"
I feel like it would've been better if Vader said: You didn't kill Anakin, I did. After The Emperor told me, that she died because of me. So Anakin died, with his family. And Vader was born"
@@BamBam-3886 naw that’s pretty cheesy lol
It makes the line " he betrayed and murdered your father" make more sense from Obi Wan's point of view.
Really loving Hayden back as Vader, his portrayal really humanizes Vader.
Hayden is only Vader when there are no full body shots of Vader which they have already announced.
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I think it’s him when he is welding the lightsaber as well.
@@alfred.7yearsago932 It's not cap Hayden confirmed that himself in an interview that the close up shots are him but everything else like fights and full bodyshots were done by someone else since Hayden isn't tall enough to be Vader the entire time
@@voltagedarth6453 yes I was already afraid he would be in full budy shot since vader is like 6 feet 5 and hayden 6 feet or so
When Vaders mask is sliced open by Obi wan you can truly see how Vader really has destroyed Anakin just by looking at his eyes, it’s almost zombie like, Honestly the acting in that scene from both Hayden and Ewan is simply incredibly, I had tears in my eyes and I can’t usually cry because of the medication I’m on!
And notice how his voice is distorted between Hayden's tone and James Earl Jones while taunting Obi!!
That helmet slicing scene was also in Clone Wars new season 7 I think when Ashoka did the same thing!
@@SaRENRampaiger Second season of Rebels.
@@TitanDarwin Thanks. Need to re-watch that cos I lost track of it! lol.
Well personally I was in a corner of my room scream-crying lol
That scene between Vader and Obi-Wan was one of the best scenes in all of Star Wars. And the way Vader smirked as he said he was the one who killed Anakin? That was just brutal. Shows how evil Vader truly is. And also;
Obi-Wan in ANH: “He betrayed and murdered your father.”
Vader in Obi-Wan finale: “I am not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker; I did.”
Gotta give the writer’s credit, that really was beautifully done. Bravo
Yes, but doesnt it go against the main star wars quote?
DV: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
L: He told me enough. He told me you killed him!
DV: No. I am your father.
If he killed the father, the father is dead, one cant have 2 biological fathers LOL
@@anycullen21 Vader is his biological father. Obi Wan explains the death of Anakin was spiritual in RotJ. The man he was died, which Luke refuses to accept.
@@anycullen21 he ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader when that happened the good man that was your father was destroyed
But they forgot to reference the "Obi-Wan once thought as you do" in reference to Luke saying: "Come with me..."
They should have written in a way, that Obi-Wan tries to appeal to Anakin first for him to rejoin him and get rid of Vader.
Could have been easily achieved by changing the opening exchange between them in this Episode. "Have you come to destroy me?" "No. I have come to rescue you." "Rescue me?!"...
and then spin it into the conversation that leads to the "Anakin is dead. I killed him"-line.
@@elishawilson5342 Yeah yeah, I get that, but it was Vader who told Luke "Im your father". Anakin conceived the children back when he was still a loving person, not Vader. Theyre Anakins children. Him claiming Luke means not all of Anakin is dead in him, which means Luke was right not to lose faith
I always struggled with how PT Anakin and Darth Vader seemed like different people. I know that’s kind of the point, but they were so different that I wasn’t even feeling that one evolved from the other. This series - and in particular that fight - helped bridge that gap for me.
Yep. I always had the same difficulty. But this sold it to me. It also further informs how right George was to cast him. It also confirms what @starwarstheory has been saying for years, in that, the way Hayden played Anakin was entirely deliberate, even down to the voice. If Hayden had NOT played it that way this scene would not have worked as well as it did. 17 years later.
I had the same issue but it resolved with me in the Clone Wars when Anakin's slow dissolutionment with the jedi feels more natural and later with Rebels when we hear Clone Wars Anakin's voice coming from Vader. But I get what you're saying because this series also does that with Hayden finally talking like Vader instead of just being angry Hayden
@@Spongebrain97 if you pay close attention in revenge of the sith you can actually hear that after Anakin falls to the dark side and kills the younglings Hayden actually changes the cadence of his voice to match the way Vader talks instead of the way Anakin usually spoke. He really was the perfect choice for the role and it’s really a shame it took so long for a lot of people to see that
@@prometheus2881 nah having grown up with the prequels, even as a kid I knew Hayden was miscast as Vader. His line delivery wasn't great because Lucas since the way beginning wasn't good at directing his actors and I was never convinced of Anakin turning to the dark side. Aside from his mother dying, we don't see much of internal darkness for episodes 1 or 2. Everything is jam packed into episode 3 but felt incredibly rushed. From a story perspective it didn't register with me that Anakin would betray the jedi and kill children in a single evening and him being passed up as a master didn't seem like enough. Because his love story wasn't good with Padme, that explains why him being paranoid with her future death didn't translate well. Again for many people Anakin got fixed with the Clone Wars and that show is the reason why the prequel's flaws are easier to overlook.
Having said all that I still do have nostalgia for Hayden and was glad that he got to reunite with Ewan and they both had better writers and a director who got better performances out of them here
It never worked for me, either. Anakin was presented as too good and then the turn in "Revenge of the Sith" was too quick. The Clone Wars got more dramatic but he was still a likeable hero and a less aggravating one.
I really liked how Anakin's voice kept fluctuating between Hayden and Jones. An excellent representation of how he still has this fight within himself between the good and the bad.
There is no internal struggle in this moment, no doubt. It's not symbolic. Everything he says in that moment is cruelly calculated, a move of psychological warfare. The distorted, fluctuating voice is there to for no other reason than to remind us that there is a person behind that suit so physically broken that he doesn't speak with his own voice anymore.
There is no fight within himself, not until Empire Strikes Back.
@Thomas Kearse Lucky guess. You're right, I haven't. And I don't intend to either. Despite what the so-called "canon" EU has ever had to do with any of it, your statement does not invalidate mine. I will take Vader as the Lucas era films have presented him, and that will suffice.
Not that anything in this Kenobi series even mattered or made a great deal of sense anyway. Much like the Sequels, it was ultimately pointless.
When Vader says **"I am not your failure"** , his face is covered in blue light as if Anakin Is accepting the apology from Obi wan . Then his face turns red , when Vader returns with darkness . This was so symbolising in a way that even though He's Darth Vader there's is still some Anakin left in him only those who really know him can take out .(Another instance Ashoka ) and Finally Master Qwai Gon for 5secs after two and a half decades
Overally what a great short series which greatly connects the events , also keeping the characters comically accurate . I will be not mad or sad if we don't get a season 2 .
It was so freaking genius.
It was awesome. And it also hurt me inside.
Dude, you're reading too much into it. The light thing is obviously symbolic, but the thing with the blue light is there as a fake-out. Obi-Wan doesn't "bring out the light in him", and neither does Ahsoka. Only Luke does that. Everything Vader says in this moment is calculated, it's cruel psychological warfare.
@@mitchellhayward6492 False. What a terrible analogy. Try again
@@benpdr10 Nice argument. You make a lot of good points. I feel so enlightened now.
Anakin under vaders mask, hearing his voice mixed with vaders, the light turning from blue to red, him saying “you didn’t kill anakin, I did.” Incredibly sad, they did it perfectly
Loved that moment
I love that Ahsoka & Obi-wan *broke* parts of the mask through combat, but Luke *removed* it through mercy at Anakin's request
That’s what happens when that’s yo daddy
Leia could not lead on about her relationship to Obi Wan in the message because there was no guarantee who would get the droids and the message. Vader could have easily captured the droids and it would implicate her deeper than they felt she already was.
yes and in the end of the ep kenobi said that no one could know
Stop trying to justify an awful script with mental gymnastics. This whole show made no sense.
Sorry, It's clear in ANH That Obi-Wan and Leia never met each other before. When Vader strikes Ben down Leia is not all that upset about it, although she does comfort, Luke. Not the way you morn the passing of the man that save your life. Also did luke just forget about the time a crazy women try to kill him when he was ten? This is not Star War. It's product for Disney. They sprinkle in just enough of the old stuff to get us to watch this crap, and we keep falling for it.
@@jimonascout.4958 Buddy, this is fiction, not a historical record of real life, relax, things change and are expanded upon, even Lucas had stuff he changed or added in or wanted to give new context to. Stop so religiously clinging onto canon. Even George Lucas didn’t.
@@j.f.l.bousquet1998 This show is perfectly logical, you are just not able to grasp recontextualization.
I loved seeing Anakin peak through when he said "I am not your failure Obi-Wan" before Vader took over again
i cried
And then the fusion of Hayden’s and JEJ’s voices for that last “OBI WAAAAN!”
@@Michael15_25 gave me mauls KENOBIIIII vibes
It seems like the only one who never truly gave up on Anakin, either briefly or completely, was Padme. She died still believing that there was still good in him, in spite of everything he'd done, to the Jedi and to her.
@@darrenkerr2620 yeah well her and Luke and perhaps Ashoka
I'm not your failure Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did. 😭💔💔💔💔💔
“Anakin is gone, I am what remains” man that line almost brought me to tears
The Duel between Vader and Obi-Wan was so fucking cool. The choreography was very on point. Wish this series could go on a bit longer, it was so fun
yes just a bit longer would have been great. I agree so much!
choreography was great, not big fan of the music and direction tho. Too much shaky cam for me and not enough john williams tracks from rots
i honestly think that a movie version of this minus all the nonsense (like Reva) would have been better.
as much as i love we got to see kid Leia i think she also took too much screen time from the reason this shows exists, to give us Vader versus Kenobi again.
@@zacharyjackson1829 expected leia to be gone from the story by episode 3
@@xxraptorxx8180 yeah I don’t think leia will be included much abynore
oh my goodness, the scene where obiwan cuts off part of vader's mask shook me to tears - and obiwan's hello there to luke was another emotional moment for me. love leia and the holster with lola! super fun!
Did you forget your mads today
No no you’re so wrong there has only been one good thing and even that was pushing it as in not as good as fanfiction movies
This was definitely the best episode of the series. I was not ready for the emotional impact of it. My heart broke when Obi Wan tearfully apologized for everything and we got James Earl Jones’ voice layered with Haiden’s. It was perfect and very reminiscent of Rebels. And the duel itself was awesome! I personally loved Reva’s arc and how things worked out for her too. I got a little teary when she was crying and feeling so much remorse and guilt and Obi Wan comforted her. I think you’re right, he almost def wishes he had that kind of interaction with Anakin after the duel. And freaking Palps! That made me happy. Same with my man Qui Gon. I was starting to worry he wouldn’t appear, but I’m so so glad he did. I’m also glad a lot of the plot holes were filled in. I’m almost positive Luke didn’t see Reva’s light saber. Oh and he finally said the line! I laughed with delight at that.
This episode had a lot to it...and was very emotional. Loved that he said that at the end, lol.
It was such a beautiful scene. Kudos to Ewan MacGregor and Hayden for doing their thing. Definitely brought closure to Obi Wans guilt and elevated Vaders character as it was ultimately Vader that killed Anakin
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Love the voice effects used for broken helmet Vader and Hayden's performance.
17:13 One small moment but this exchange and Owen facing Reva was between my favorite moments of the episode, the dude didn't stand a chance, even though Reva was injured, but he still stood his ground for as long as he could.
Just goes to show how much he really loves Luke.
There's actually a line in a deleted scene from the OT where Luke is talking to his friend Biggs, and Biggs says something along the lines of "Luke your uncle cold hold back an entire tribe of sandpeople by himself"
If anything, this show proved it: Ben and Beru are scrappers when it comes to protecting their own. As they should be, naturally! It's kind of funny to me how Beru was more ready than Owen was! Like "Oh, they're coming for my nephew? Okay, get the sawed offs and let's go!"
I kinda need what really happened at the Lars homestead before Luke showed up and they were burned, that firefight mustve been epic and they went out like heroes, Im assuming until I see otherwise, lol!
Not gonna lie, i always love that in Star Wars. When people that doesn't have Force powers still have the guts to pick a fight against Jedi or Sith. It shows how brave they are.
This story showed two sets of fantastic, loving foster parents.
If the first episode didn't already show us, this one really drove home that Uncle Owen is NOT that mf'er to mess with! And he's with the perfect mate, to boot! I wanna see THEM, pre-Luke. lol
8:30 the answer to that question lays with the Grand Inquisitors quote of, "revenge does wonders for the will to live". As the dark side feeds off emotions, revenge being one of the strongest, those that use its power tend to survive much more than Jedi. As well, Qui-gon was the one Jedi to rediscover force ghosts. So when Maul bested him he was already ready to pass onto the after life, he no longer needed to be alive and so he passed on more peacefully than the anger fueled "lives" of the Dark Siders usually live.
FINALLY someone who gets it!!! Even Palpatine himself says it in Revenge Of The Sith: "The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some would consider unnatural." The power to defy killing wounds and death itself is one of those abilities. Many Sith and Dark Side users have accomplished this. Maul and Vader being the biggest Canon examples of this.
I think it actually makes Anakin death more powerful as well. Darth Vader survived many times over by harnessing the dark side, but Anakin Skywalker could not (or would not) draw on the dark side following his redemption.
I’m happy Luke got to meet him briefly. It makes sense in a new hope when he sees Leia’s message and he says “obi wan kenobi? I wonder if she means old Ben kenobi”
I'm sure Luke was told about Obi-Wan as he grew up. I mean if anything were ever to happen to them, they would want Luke to know about Kenobi, even if only by name.
@@ThisIsMyFullName Which really just goes back to the fact that it makes sense that they've at least met.
This here is Ben, he's a friend of the family. He lives out in the Junland Wastes. If anything happens, if you ever need help and we're not here, you can go to him.
It makes complete sense. Luke probably would've seen a younger Obi Wan talking to a Qui Gon he couldn't see and assumed he was a crazy hermit. It actually fits perfectly to why they called Ben a crazy old hermit. He was wandering Tatooine talking to a ghost
The Clone Wars/Rebels references had me curling up into the fetal position.
Plus Revenge of the Sith, A new hope and return of the Jedi
The obi wan vs vader and the ashoka vs vader fights were pure poetry. Down to ashoka taking off the right side of vaders mask and obi wan taking off the left. Only luke could remove the full mask of vader to bring back anakin.
@@jedimasterdrew4273 And Ahsoka & Obi-wan *broke* it through combat, Luke *removed* it through mercy at Anakin's request
What i adore most is Leia herself and her actress, not only was her performance amazing at such a young age, but knowing Carrie Fisher and the legacy she left behind, knowing who Leia becomes in the future - a rebel, a fighter for the people, fighting against the Empire - something about this all just made me really tear up in joy. :)
Kenobi speaking to Qui-Gon Jinn is the greatest moment in this whole series!
I literally cried
But they didn’t show qui-goin’s force ghost
@@theprodigalsun__ They did
@@kosalafernando9150 yeah I somehow missed that when I watched but I saw it when I finished their reaction my bad lol
I waited over twenty years for Qui-Gon Jinn to show up again, and it was more than worth it. Great reaction you two. Thanks for sharing. :)
23:40 when I watched this episode I couldn't stop laughing at palps face. Had that "oh shit this guy is really pissed off, and that scares me" look on his face then hits him with the "you look a little angry there buddy, you ok?"
I know! I love that, because Palpatine SHOULD be scared of Anakin/Vader. He has zero control of his rage.
for me it was more like "guuuurl you are obsessed! calm the fuck down, please" i couldnt stop laughing for a solid 5 minutes lmao.
I like that Obi-Wan called him "Darth" to connect to later when he calls him "Darth" and we would think of it as his first name.
11:24 "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, YOU’RE my only hope” Somehow people forget the ending of the message
There are some people who are confused that now that we see that Obi-Wan and Leia had a relationship, why doesn't she react when he is killed in ANH like Luke did?
@@gamestation2690 because she's a soldier. She just watched her planet (and family) get destroyed and she's still leading the charge to escape the Death Star. She knows how to keep her emotions in check when it's called for
@@leynaripley5250 Yeah she should be way more shocked at her entire family dying than Obi-Wan.
@@leynaripley5250 She also didn't react much to it. Not only that but all in all, she was a child when that all happened and wasn't as emotionally attached to Obi-Wan as Luke was at the time he died.
@@leynaripley5250 Much more so than Luke can keep his emotions in check.
Kenobi literally has two enemies obsessing over him lol.
Darth Vader: OBI WAN!!!
Maul: KENOBI!!
Really living rent free in their heads
Grievous and Palpatine want him dead too 😂
@@malusofficial Grievous died in ROTS. He's not force sensitive and he literally blew up
@@TheAutisticBrony obviously. He still wanted kenobi dead
@@DanielFernandez-gv6iy Yeah but like Grievous and Palpatine just want all the jedi dead. They didn't develop a specific obsessive compulsive hate fetish for Kenobi specifically.
As for letting Reva live, killing someone in cold blood, especially a former youngling who has faced such horror and despite that ultimately does not succumb to evil, is absolutely not the Jedi way. Ultimately I believe it shows how powerful Obi-Wan truly is that he trusts the Force, especially the living Force. I don't think it's a coincidence that's when Qui-Gon shows up.
I mean, he's the one that was considered a bit of a rebel in the Jedi order. But that was to an order that was slowly losing their way, especially during the clone wars where they turned more into warriors than priests. For me those moments in this episode where he lets both Vader and Reva live show that Obi-Wan can finally shake that Clone Wars soldier side of himself and become a true Jedi again the way his master taught him.
I think they are setting up to reveal that reva is in fact Cere Junda in fallen order 2
@@jasonpallotto6841 I don't think so. Cere Junda has a complely different backstory. She was already a master during order 66 and she had a padawan who was corrupted into being an inquisitor.
She murdered so many people in cold blood. Okay, don't kill her but surely just letting her go her way because poor youngling with PTSD is not okay. But fine I guess. In all honesty though ending the 2022 Disney+ show with a cis white male actor chopping off Moses Ingram's head would have been hilarious. Would have probably ended the Disney company but still would have been funny.
@@Madagon367 Well that's nothing compared to how many people Vader killed and tortured, but Luke showed him mercy even before he redeemed himself in RotJ. Reva could have killed Luke before Obi-Wan ever got there, but she didn't. She did actually show true remorse and redeemed herself, so what kind of Jedi would that make Obi-Wan if he killed her or even captured her (and then what would he do with her?).
well its star wars everyone can be reddemed but palpatine
That rematch went hard! The Obi Wan vs Darth Vader we needed! a great pace and hard hitting even that half Mask Anakin connection with Obi-Wan made me Cry 🥺
I loved those few surprises at the end too!
All round Amazing show! Easily one of my favorite Star Wars series
They had to EARN their John Williams themes from A New Hope and Empire. Those themes are for who they became. Darth Vader wasn't set until after the final fight. Obi Wan wasn't ready for his theme until he powered up and got over the funk he was in.
Agree with this. Kind of like a transition from the prequel era into what we know in ANH. The Imperial Vader with no Anakin left and the wise Obi Wan
The emotions got me a bit on this one. Wasn’t expecting that, given the other episodes. Pleasantly surprised.
Same
My love for the prequels made this very emotional for me. Obi-WAN’s broken “I’m sorry” just devastated me, Ewan did and amazing job. Hayden was able to encapsulate both Anakin and Vader with just half of his face showing, alternating between the blue and red lightsaber color on his face and the back in forth with the voice. Obviously mirroring his battle with Ahsoka. This show had its ups and downs but if this is the final impression of it I’d say it was very much worth it. May the Force be with you.
Cried during that scene with Anakin peaking through Vader’s shell and a very haunted Obi Wan. Hit me hard man.
"General Kenobi you served my father in the clone wars" was probably a way to talk to Obi-Wan without revealing he was also "Ben". If someone evil found the message the message would not 'out' Ben's secret. Also, it makes it seem like Leia did not know/ meet General Kenobi. So it separated him from her past.
An awesome performance moment by Hayden. Super creepy and subtle having him smile at obi-wan when confessing to killing Anakin. Gives us a glimpse into what might be going on under the mask when Vader is completely covered. Glad Hayden could come back with a solid redemption.
With regards to when Vader later says "Obi Wan once thought as you do" I think it works. During this fight scene Obi Wan is indeed trying to reach out and apologize to Anakin but Vader doesn't want an apology. He said he killed Anakin, not Obi Wan, so pretty much there's no point in trying to reach out to Anakin since he's gone
Exactly. The fact Obi-Wan kept using the name Anakin showed he still thought there was good...until Obi-Wan finally called him "Darth".
Yessss! Obiwan goes from “I’m sorry, Anakin” to “Goodbye, Darth”, verbalizing his acceptance that Anakin Skywalker (“the good man I knew”) is dead. It’s a peace that he only could find once he re-centered himself in the force while in the pit - he lets go of his fear and guilt (the flashbacks voiceovers) and finds peace in thinking about the twins.
I think this continues the trend of most of the Disney star wars products. Quite a few flaws, some poor decisions, and some downright confusing decisions. But there's also some outstanding moments, there's some perfect scenes, and there's a lot of great acting. I hope we get a season 2. Ewan deserves it.
After being brutally tortured by 'The Last Jedi' and 'The Rise of Skywalker', my expectations have become tame enough that I'm not hard to please.
@@KianoUyMOOP Surprised you weren't already there with the abomination thats Attack of the Clones lmao
@@Billyregin AOTC is millions times better movie than whole sequel trilogy.
I agree some decisions are questionable but half of them are easily explained away. It’s just that half of this fandom would rather leach off of what they see or hear other people saying rather than to take the 5 seconds it takes to work out the easily excusable solutions for themselves.
@@greengreeneya2102 Its really not lmao. They're all bad. Attack of the Clones though is just so truly horrible. Not just in story, but everything. Bad acting. Horrible visuals. Bad directing.
The "hello there" and seeing Anakins face/voice under Vaders Helmet will forever go down in history as some of the greatest scenes in star wars history.
Hello Nikki & Steven ....
The fight between Vader and Kenobi was epic. If you notice, every stoke or swipe from Anakin is a kill shot. He always goes for the head o vital organs. While Obi-Wan always deflects and redirects the blows coming at him. He wears down his adversary while Anakin constantly tries to overcome them. Kenobi shows Anakin how strong he can be, when he finally fully re-embraced the Force
Reve has her trying moment of choice. If she kills Luke, she becomes Anakin, the person she hates for who he has become. And she couldn't do it. She could not kill a child. I don't think she knows that Luke, or Leia, are Anakin's/Vader's children. But that knowledge does come to light in later years after Return of the Jedi; during Heir to the Empire: the Thrawn Trilogy.
FYI.... For those who know and don't know Quigon is leading Obi-Wan into Beggers Canyon in the final shot.
I think she connected the dots. Why would she go for Luke then? It's because he wanted revenge on Vader or perhaps end his bloodline.
I loved that obi used thoughts of Luke and Leia and wanting to protect them as his strength when buried and it gave him faith to beat Vader. He also was more connected to the force after that and was able to see Luke being chased. It's like his love for them made him stronger and more in touch with the force. Incredible episode imo. That fight was chefs kiss, him hurling the rocks like it was nothing was so good
I’ve said it before, but Darth Vader's breathing has to be one of the most terrifying sounds in movie & tv history. When he wants to ignore the others and go after Ben, the Grand Inquisitor starts giving him the whole "he’s just one Jedi" speech, and when Vader starts with the breathing, I’m thinking "Let t go, man! Just shut up!" 😱
That rock throwing scene was awesome!
“It’s not about lifting rocks” said Luke from Last Jedi. Lol!
Beru was lowkey packing, ready to smoke some imps all these years and wasted no time. such a great, great aunt.
YESSSSS amazing reaction, you two! Loved, loved, LOVED this episode so much. I cried, I laughed, my heart melted. So thrilled to re-watch it with you two right after my own viewing. 🥳
Same ... when Obi said "Then my friend is truly dead" i remembered also Ashoka and Vader in Twilight of Aprentice from Rebels and that moment my heart cracked ... couldnt hold my tears , it was so good , loved this episode very much
I also view the blue faced anakin saying "i'm not your failure obi-wan" as one of the last glimmers of Anakin shining through to say "its not your fault" before Darth continues on through
The episode had what I wanted, which was to make me cry like a little girl and be grateful to be a fan of this beautiful saga. AND HE DID!!!
Reva's survival: clearly, surviving mortal wounds through sheer rage is possible through the Dark Side. But also, physical injuries are not as straightforward and consistent as many seem to want to believe. Sometimes people survive wounds that should have been fatal, sometimes they die to wounds that others survive.
One of the biggest curses of Star Wars fans is overthinking things and presuming that everything must work in a perfectly-consistent manner at all times (when not even real life isn't that consistent).
I agree about fans overthinking things. Any serialized content, especially content that has been around for nearly 50 years, is going to have some degree of inconsistencies.
@@jonlaukeman1791 exactly
They get pissed when i point out Legends doing the same thing
Not really but a least try to make things connect and be consistent. Disney clearly doesn't care and Reva is a pointless character.
very true
Steven dont forget its ok to cry and show emotions, i cried like a little baby, this was truly amazing.
can’t wait too see Hayden in the ahsoka series, especially Dave filoni directing 🔥🔥
I have been extremely impressed with the final episodes of Clone Wars as a casual fan. So I am soooo looking forward to that.
Hayden still managed to conjure up his hateful look when he yelled "OBI-WAN!".
I cried 4 times, right in the feels. Oh WTF man.
The duel, and that Obi-Leia goodbye, telling her abt her parents 🥺
"See I'm not hard to please". Loved Nikki's look like "wanna bet?! Love from Texas.
That look Nikki gives when he says "I'm not that hard to please." 😂😂
I love how the nostalgia springs up on Steven’s face as obi says, may the force be with you at 27:08
I really liked this episode and the Obi-Wan/Vader fight .... I really loved the moments when their lightsabers hit and there was the hint of purple glow as well... just such a great detail to have. I held my breath for almost the whole time
The broken helmet scene and dialogue between Anakin and Obi wan needs to be Emmy nominated, scene was stellar!
“HELLO THERE!” He said it!!!!
Hello there! 😁
Thank you, you two! You're the first reaction to this episode that I've been able to share the experience with, and it was wonderful. Thank you so much for being nerd-mates about this.
YESSS!!!!! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU, GUYS !!!!!!
The Skywalker family are literally in the same episode together! I'm in tears.
This episode shows that the fans just had to be patient. Everything that we’ve asked for was delivered in this episode!
I disagree with this mindset. I liked the show overall, but you make it sound like one great final episode makes bad episodes okay. It doesn't. The best shows makes fans happy the entire time.
It delivered on vader and qui gon. But we cant doubt now that when season 2 happens, its gonna be „the reva show“.
@@Billyregin I don’t mean that one good episode makes it okay to have bad ones, but people were upset that they didn’t get what they wanted from this show while the show wasn’t even over yet.
@@Misantroph0 When there is a show about Reva, it won’t be Obi-Wan Kenobi season 2 but its own show.
@@Billyregin yup. I liked it overall. but 1/3 of the series could’ve been deleted and replaced. Reva plot seemed fractured at best. Maybe more time on how she escaped the temple and not so much parkouring? I feel the glass was 3/4 full. So definitely glad I got what I did with the show. I would’ve loved more cuts back on Tatooine with Owen, Beru and Luke. Those parts I loved. Owen was truly a bad ass with no special powers besides love for his nephew and honoring he memory of his dad and step mom. again- not going to complain too much. Overall i liked it and it gave me a lot to enjoy. But I guarantee in the months to follow- there will be episodes or scenes I will skip over to get to the ones I like. With original trilogy (which I was kid when they came out in theaters) and the prequels? I don’t skip over things. I just put them in and marathon them so to speak. This one? Yeah. There will be some things I skip. But overall I am content. I would say a solid B or B+ with several parts bing in the A range.
The reaction that I've been waiting for! Fantastic reaction you two! 😊 Absolutely loved this episode!
11:07 The only time that I can recall Leia wearing a gun holster during the OT was in ROTJ during the battle on Endor. From here on out, I'm just going to say that it was Talia's. LOL! Finding that out will be a good excuse to watch movies later today.
We got to see Owen and Beru fighting together to protect Luke. The EPIC Obi-Wan vs. Vader rematch. A redemption for Reva. Obi-Wan telling Leia how she inherented so many wonderful qualities of her parents, Padmè and Anakin. Obi-Wan then telling Leia, Bail, and Breha that if they ever need him they know where to find him. Obi-Wan getting to meet Luke. And finally the legend himself, Liam Neeson's cameo as the Force Ghost Qui-Gon.
A HUGE round of applause to Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, Moses Ingram, and Vivian Lyra Blair for their amazing performances throughout this series.
Looking forward to your next reaction. 😊
This is where the fun begins! 😄
That's what we said before episode 1 and I'm still waiting.
@@John_Locke_108 bruh it was all good except ep 4 was kinda mid but still not sequel kinda bad
It was subtle in episode 5 but the grand inquisitor very subtly explains how she survived. He said something along the lines of “revenge does wonders for the will to live” pretty much saying reva and him both get stabbed and used revenge and anger to push through it.
The only thing that brought a tear to my eye was seeing Qui-Gon at the end, worth the wait even for that brief moment .👏🏼
The story of anakin Skywalker is seriously one of the greatest fictional stories ever told. Everything he ever went thru, and all the evil things he did. In the end, he did the right thing. He brought balance to the force and he saved his son. It's beautiful
He was the chosen one after all.
@@lpycb42 facts
Imagine if they decided to ruin it by making it so that he didn’t kill palpatine and all of this was just kicking the can down the road
@@FalconFlyer75 What a terrible idea that would be. I’m glad that never happens ever!
@@FalconFlyer75 I almost forgot that happened lol
Vader really has a problem with old friends destroying his mask.
20:01 I love that blue contrast on VADERS face giving the feeling Skywalker might still be in there.😢........🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
After my first watch I was upset they let Obi Wan win and it not be a draw, then I realized Vader coulda killed him but left him buried.
Then I rewatched and realized it was a beautiful duel, that no one won. It was almost poetic. Vader finally let go of Obi Wan at the end also. He had a glimpse of light side in him while talking to Kenobi with his mask half off.
Palpatine alluded to the fact that Vader's feelings for his old Master have weakened him! When Vader buried Obi-Wan he called him Master and also when they spoke, Anakin was there represented by the blue light of the lightsaber and only after the duel he was only Vader! Another point of note is that Obi-Wan gave up on Anakin not once but twice whereas Luke did not!
@@HiddenGhost00 yes Vader was definitely conflicted in that duel. You could tell he was in his feelings when the grand inquisitor said to go after the ship of people.
Obi Wan won
Yeah he did. This wasn't a draw. He's 2-0 baby!
Now sign Liam for a season two and for the love of all things holy, sign Hayden for a Vader series….get it done!
Hayden was never in the suit besides the scene with his mask cut. Stunt men portrayed Vader.
@@Billyregin not true. Hayden is in the suit alot. Its stuntman in full body shots and a stunt man in this epic rematch fight. But its always Hayden in any of the none full body/dialouge shots.
@@sh0cktim3 Even if thats true, most Vader scenes him have fighting or walking lmao. He literally has a stuntman do the walking scenes. Sorry, it was great to see Hayden again but people need to stop acting like he did so much of the Vader scenes. He didn't.
@@Billyregin he did tho. You just cant appreciate it. You still need a actor behind the mask. Mandalorian is proof of that.
@@sh0cktim3 I can't appreciate it? What does that even mean lol. And LOL. Hate to break it to you, but Pedro was more often NOT wearing the mask. How do you think he's able to do so many other projects at the same time? Come on dude. Gotta use your head.
Kind of hoping Reva teams up with Quinlan Voss. That would be a spin-off or series I'd be so excited for.
Quinlan would be very good for her, considering his past.
I hope not. I liked Reva on this show but I feel like the rebels working with someone who has hunted down and killed force sensitive children for years can't be forgiven.
@@smokeem15 I'm hoping some Jedi flee the GCW and head out into the unknown. Would be nice to have some unknown destinations for a change.
@@martinsleight321 it would. I think since some other star wars shows that have been talked about don't have anything to do with the Skywalker's, we will get other planets involved with some different aliens.
Surviving grievous wounds is a theme with the dark side of the Force. The hate and the anger fuel them enough to survive injuries that would be lethal otherwise (there are several examples in the canon and also legends of this).
Grand Inquisitor even said it during the episode 5.
By the way this episode was AMAZING. 10/10.
Redemption was always one of the main themes in Star Wars, it fit that Reva left at the end. She was back to the light side again.
This has to be the best finale to any show ever. The way they stitch all of the universe together with this one episode was... *chef's kiss*
It’s nice to see the stories acknowledge the importance of Breha and Bail Organa AND Beru and Owen Lars - yes Leia and Luke obviously have qualities of their birth parents, but their adoptive parents who raised them also instilled those qualities as well. It was good of Leia to answer to Obi Wan’s comment of how he wishes he could tell her more of her birth parents by saying that it’s okay because she already knows and looking at Breha and Bail because they are her parents too and is just as important to who she is. The show did a good balance of nature and nurture.
Also Beru Whitesun Lars just really to throw hands at anyone coming after Luke is amazing
"Hey, Star Wars Rebels - can I copy your Darth Vader duel homework?"
"Sure Obi-Wan, just make it look different so that it doesn't look like you just copied it."
"Sure thing."
The transition bewteen Anakin's and Darth Vader's voices...
The conflicting reflections of the blue and red light off of Vader's face...
Perfection 👌
I am not entirely convinced that Reva figured out that Luke is Anakin’s son.
I think she was simply trying to hurt Obi-Wan by harming Luke.
Obi-Wan attacking Darth Vader's machinery was a good plan. Attack Vader's real weakness
Exception of the episode 4 because they didn't think the science out of it, lightsabers heat is so hot that it coterized the wound, that's why we never see blood and guts even when sliced in half; That's how Darth Maul survived. So when it penetrate the body, if it does'nt puncture a vital organ, like real life stabbing, you survive
Exactly. Even in our own world, someone gets poked in the intestines, or the kidneys, they recover just fine (as long as they get the necessary medical attention). If she'd gotten poked through the heart, or the brain, she'd have been dead in a second. But Vader didn't stab her in those vital organs. He deliberately left her to die slowly. He legitimately didn't give a shit what she did afterward, even if she somehow survived, she was no threat to him anyhow.
Vader: "The high ground... now belongs to me"
He should said that. Missed opportunity
In regards to Reva surviving the attack on Coruscant I think they were insinuating that Reva hid within the bodies of her youngling companions after they all perished except her; luckily missing Vaders stroke of his lightsaber. Would love to see where her character goes within the Star Wars mythos. I loved this series and this episode was literally the cherry on top. It brought the characters full circle and showcased "broken" Kenobi beautifully.
If she's 10 in the show, then by the time she sends her message to Kenobi it's almost 10yrs later. If I hadn't seen someone in 10yrs I'd be more likely to be a bit more formal. As a way of making sure they remember who I am. Especially if it is someone I've only seen for a few days. But yeah they rounded it off and cleared it up. And this ep was great. Felt like a very very good fan film.
Vader said he killed anakin connects with obiwan's conversation with Luke "from a certain point of view" In RoTJ.
We still need a Darth Vader movie or tv show series with Hayden Christensen! That'd be freaking awesome!
I'm really happy they finally included the music too ... and little Leia's last outfit is super cute and I loved the last conversation between her and Obi-Wan ....
At least I'm not alone to notice Owen's stormtrooper marksmanship by missing the opening shot on Reva in an ambush position with her unaware. It's the same with that 501st clone in the series' first scene during Order 66 whose shots were way off target despite having the element of surprise on the younglings and their Jedi trainer.
You’re complaining about a farmer with 0 military training having shit aim?
It's the running joke and I hope they never ever do away with it.
@@Legoboy55able Also probably terrified, hands shaking, etc., with a weapon that may not have sights properly adjusted, in the dark, trying to hit a target wearing black clothing, etc.
Reva survived her stab wound the same way the Grand Inquisitor did - and the same way Maul did when he was bisected.
That was the whole point of the Grand Inquisitor's comment last episode about revenge.
C'mon, Steven, the Force is infinite, all the time, everytime. Force users can only tap into so much at any one time. Vader had just pulled down a spaceship. You can't expect him to pull *another* spaceship, right away. Vader's getting up in years so he needs time to rest and recover before he can ... perform ... again. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imo its not strength he needs to use the force like that, it's time. It's meditative. That explains how Obiwan got away from Vader that first time too
YES! THANK YOU STEVEN. Finally I hear a reaction that mentions just how important the music is to the saga.
3 little things that could have made the series perfect : 1) Duel of the Fate (or Battle of the Heroes), 2) red eyes for Anakin, 3) more flashbacks (during the Clone Wars for example)... but otherwise the final episode was excellent 🔥 thanks Disney 🙏
Anakin had red eyes. VADERRRRR
@@rykkyricardo1719 not in the flashbacks
@@Dr4kiZaR True but he was still disgusted by what he was doing. Vader didn't give two s****
I totally agree with everything you've said, I'm so sad that it's over but so happy it was made and it tied up all what had lead up to a New Hope. I've always felt that Princess Leia had met Obi-wan before, that she had known him in a different way than how Luke had known him. I had always always felt that and then seeing that they did was amazing.
I don’t think Reva knows Luke is a Skywalker, more so that he means something to obi wan so she went there to take something from him as revenge for ep5, not because of who Luke is - worked out really well in my opinion because that was my biggest concern
Luke’s last name is Skywalker, they don’t exactly try to hide it, and it’s clear in her wording that she was intending on killing Luke for justice against Anakin
@@CaptainPikeachu as you hear on the audio Reva heard on the coms device, there was absolutely no link to him being a child of anakin skywalker, the only link was to kenobi, bale, tattooine and Owen… so she went there to spite kenobi not vader because that path and battle was already lost.
Just my thoughts anyways…
Ahsoka took off the right side of Vader's mask, Ben took off the left side, but it took Luke to take off the entire thing.
that's awesome!!
I was just crying this episode and restart crying watching it again with you guys 😭😭😭😭
My only miss was Obi-Wan saying to Anakin/Vader something like: « Padme was wrong… » and then leave. BUT THIS WAS EMOTIONALLY PERFECT 💔😭
There's some ironic poetry in the moment when Obi-Wan struggles under the rock pile and he hears Anakin say "admit you are beaten", because in the flashback when Anakin says that, he uses the "Falling Avalanche" technique. It's part of his preferred lightsaber style, Djem So. It's the move where he repeatedly hammers straight down on the kneeling Obi-Wan (and it's also the same move Luke used to chop off Vader's hand years later). Again Obi-Wan finds himself at the mercy of an avalance, albeit this time it's for real, and again he breaks out from under it. Lovely touch they added there.
I thought for sure Reva would die too, but I'm okay with how they ended it. She's an interesting character they could do interesting things with, so I'll wait and see.
I think Leia keeps it professional 😂 because anyone finding out she and Obi-Wan have a deeper relationship than that puts them both in danger. Yes, she was smarter than her father Bail, lol.
Big Steven fighting back the tears with that final dialogue between Obi-Wan and Anakin... That shit got me too