I didn't detect a single lie! Very good video. Not to try to persuade you to change your mind, but for what it's worth I still really enjoy making RL content occasionally, but only because I: A) Took a long break and B) Detached from the idea of being so involved in the game so much that it takes 100% of my creative passion Now I see RL as less of my job and more just a fun thing on the side that I make a video on every month or two and ONLY if I feel like it. I guess all I'm saying is definitely explore other topics, you will KILL it, but don't close every door either! RL can still be fun to make videos about even when it's so, so depressing.
Haha thanks for the kind words, I was ready to get roasted lol I agree though, I don’t really feel personally connected to Rocket League like I used to. The main thing keeping me going is that I just love editing and creative storytelling (but even that can get repetitive with RL). It’s so much less about the game for me at this point to be totally honest
Haha thanks man, anybody can see the love you have for video-making. My talent is being able to make fun of absolutely anything, but i couldn't when the quality is that high level
The Trackmania analogy is perfect. It's not that people wouldn't play the game if it weren't for custom maps, but you can only play the official tracks for so long before you go insane. Essentially what's happening to RL
@@Qubk0and TM community is great. Cup and text chat provides a built in community. And map review. And i see some of the same players over and over. And I'm in lobbies (hunting cup maps, or in quails) with the best players in the world, despite being a mid-player myself. RL doesn't cultivate any community. TM does. So i have fun playing rocket league, but after 30-45 minutes, it starts to feel empty & unfulfilling. And RL built in toxic quickchats like what-a-save. The game's social infrastructure (or lack thereof) cultivates toxicity beyond just being competitive imo. On top of TM's social infrastructure (also shoutout to TMX), it's just a good community. Most people are kind & thoughtful. I think most of us are old so that helps. 🤣 I love tm so much
@@reed6514 yeah that summs up rl at moment i play rank for liek 30mins and are met with smurfs freestylers bossters or people that just bump all game doesnt and hasnt felt the same since 2019
Who was it? Rocketslot? Who was training some girl to make it to "gc"? When she literally couldn't even make a basic air touches after months of training videos. What ever happened to that girl? Is she ssl yet?
I advise u to watch ApparentlyJack and Retals’ 2 pros 1 keyboard series on both their channels. It’s really good. If u search it up u will find a playlist
Whatever you do next you're going to crush. What makes your videos good is you, and your editing style. Rocket League may have been the reason to start, but personally I'm excited to see where you take your talents. Always said I selfishly wish I had the money to pay you full time to edit. You got this 👍
The content isn't a problem with rocket league, it's just car football, it doesn't need to be much more than that. The problem is epic limiting their game, removing it from steam, removing trading etc. Awful awful company that can go to hell.
I was just talking to my parents at their house this morning about how I was getting really burnt out on playing this game and how the UA-camrs that I used to watch consistently (Pickapixel, CoralCoke, etc.) are unable to make their old content due to trading being removed. This game brought me so much joy in my teens and early twenties but it’s time for something new for me too.
My parents wanted me to try and grind to being a pro, but I’ve been playing the game for so long now and I’m gonna be in my 20s soon, feel like I’ve become unc status seeing all these younger pros dominate the scene whilst my skill level has remained the same for a couple years now no matter how much training I give myself. Was on a crazy rise back in the day so it hurts explaining it to my parents haha
As a very casual player (since 2016, about 950 hours), I see rocket league as doing great. I love that it's something I can depend on, like chess the core game never changes. I'm a big counterstrike enjoyer too because it doesn't change much either. In an era of online service games that change the meta every month, it's nice to have something that's consistent and familiar to go back to. No matter what it feels like the same exact game as 2016 and I love it for that. I don't like the removal of trading (I was quite sad about that), but I overall think the epic acquisition was positive in my eyes. Sure, we lost trading but before the acquisition que times were getting kind of long and I kept going up against the same players. As long as the base game is the same and there's a good pool of players I'm happy. I definitely understand your complaints, but as someone who's very casual about the game none of it really touches me personally. I don't find myself wanting more from the game ever. Honestly I don't understand how a racing game would really work. I think new content is good, don't get me wrong but I think you're just getting bored of the game. The game is pretty much the exact charming masterpiece it was when you started playing, you just are losing interest and that's okay. I don't think you should hang on every little potential content release to try and save the feeling like someone who's desperately trying to save a romantic relationship that's just not working out anymore for either person. With that said though, I wish they would do something about toxic players. Perhaps they could implement a system similar to what overwatch has with commending players for good behavior?
Solid comment. Often, I think it's us casual folks that enjoy it because we don't take it all that seriously. We haven't made it our whole identity, we haven't made a job out of it...we just play, and remember that it's still just a silly little game about cars playing soccer.
the problem is the free to play thing. free to play is nice to get a huge player base (if the game is good enough to begin with) and it also invites all sorts of shit behaviour because a ban will only lock an already free account and on you go create the next one. the same doesn't apply for other games as the initial cost is a (re-)entry barrier that I think twice if I want to waste that money with shitty behaviour. and what also helped counter strike at least when I still played it at CS 1.6 times was the ton of private servers. no sweating, playing the same people over multiple games, thus socializing instead of having new randoms every game. possibiliy of custom maps that are easily accessible (i remember all the surf maps and HE maps by the community. that's not really rocket science in terms of creative new map and game mode ideas, but its a little extra diversity that helps keeping the game fresh already)
Kinda crazy that almost every single rocket league creator is coming to this same conclusion and this was such an avoidable thing. If they just listened to the community more over the years I can only imagine where the game would be and how different things could be. Either way, definitely going to sub and see what you make going forward!
As a fellow unc, I hear this, nothing for me will come close to the community in 2018-2020 and it comes down to those in charge of the game and esports decisions. You have a talent for entertaining digestible content & I'm sure if you are actually passionate about the basis of the content it will be great quality that people will stick around for. o7
I wanna keep holding on... I know it's futile... But I wanna believe as foolish as it may be.... Things will never be the same. Nothing fills the hole pre Epic Rocket League left behind... Not even Rocket League itself. Rest in peace little one🪦 Your journey is almost complete.
2:38 it’s crazy that some people think 13K is failure, I could never convince 13,000 people to watch something I made and also make them willingly decide to continue watching my stuff
I have never seen or even been recommended a video of you until now. However, the way you talked about this is a nice change of pace from how everyone else does, happy to be a new sub
I completely get this Speech, I've had the same thoughts recently as an Unc myself. The only thing that's really keeping me going is RLCS and the friends I have in the RLCS. With that being said you keep making your documentary style videos for other games and I'm going to keep watching them. I wish you luck with whatever you do next.
From what I know, Retals and AppJack's two pros on one keyboard is unqiue. It's become my favorite RL content. It's absolutely halarious and interesting to watch them essentially relearn mechanics while using their game knowledge the best as possible. The biggest reason I watch it and am glad they decided not to stop it is that it's the few unique videos I've seen.
yeah, that and lethamyr with all his weird shit of fun maps, modified gameplay and stuff. but even leth with all his map making insanity can only get us so far. if the game at least had better support for custom games, like a lobby finder ingame where you can join random public lobbies and automatically download maps if you don't have them so its accessible to play community content... but nope.
@@MrLordLowbob bro epic games have all this money and power yet they cant do public custom maps. Its BS! Unbelievable that they just dont care at all about this game. But honestly I dont care anymore as I have moved on from RL now. They lost all their OG fans by now
I'm not buying the "I'm Old" thing. I'm almost 50 and started in 2015 and don't plan on stopping. I'll probably be stuck in Diamond at this point, but especially being older I feel pretty good about that too.
The point is that I feel completely detached from the community at this point because Epic attract swathes of children. I'm still playing the game cause it's fun as hell, but I'm not devoting a big portion of my life to it anymore
I am 41 and started in 2015 too. This is one the greatest game ever made imo. But I dont have fun anymore. I play occasionally with friends that still want to play. 4K hours on this game.
I don't know what I am more mad about. The idea that this video suggests the only thing I do is SSL vs Grand Champion videos when its a miniscule percentage (like 2 or 3?) of my almost 1000 videos, OR the fact that the video is right that no matter what whenever I do the video does well. As someone who is looking to go full-time content doing Rocket League content here soon, I hear your sentiment. Here's to hoping there's a way for all of us to pivot if need be, but I fear I may be nothing without Dark(?)
It's so sad seeing how rocket league is dying. I've discovered this game in 2020 when I was in search for new games with my friend. He didn't feel it, I loved it from the beginning and it became my favourite game since. 4,5 years passed and after 1,3k hours of playing I still do like launching the game and playing for some time while listening to music, but it's not the same now. What is more, I am going to the university soon and I won't have that much time as I had, so I'm also at the finishing stage I guess. Never saw your content before, this video is the only one that got recommended to me, but I fully agree with you and I'm glad you're honest about how you feel. Good luck on your future plans!
I used to load this game up in the early days and just the music choice they made as it booted to the main menu was perfect and even that was so thoughtfully done, it got me so hyped to play the game, and now? Lmao it’s just depressing to boot it up, it just lazily turns on and goes to the menu with some random generic song
its so sad that rocket league never tried to embrace that shit, like e.g. warcraft 3 or track mania or to some lesser degree even counter strike did it. just make it possible to host private servers with custom maps or modded game behaviour and create the same stupid server list logic, where you can just browse all the publicly available private servers, join and automatically download the map. imagine how much more traction weird and quirky funmaps would have gotten, because you don't need to find the players for private lobbies to even start playing it and instead just start that server with a map and people can connect if they want without having them to first get some connection credentials from someone else somewhere.
as rocket league's certified #1 hater this video is too real. always interested in people calling out the game for the shit that it is. used to love it, but it's hard to love a game when the people in charge clearly don't
@@boneykingofsomewhere no no, fuck epic. I'm not going to go into detail but epic has continued to make "updates" that, more often than not, have genuinely removed content from the game. Makes absolutely no sense, and it's all in the name of selling more garbage to children on a DIFFERENT GAME. Rant over lol
@@boneykingofsomewhere Nah man they're just talentless and lazy, they are many ways of creating new modes and ways of monetizing the game, they just kept going in a direction that never worked
I still haven't launched the game since they removed trading, and it is funny seeing Rocket League UA-camrs trying (with varying degrees of success) to keep finding fresh ideas.
@@jpuc5568 he first of all didnt endorse "society" but said he should be gunned down irl, and second he was banned for like a week. also nothing he said is wrong even in 2024 if you actually play league, its just china games dont know how to censor someone
Nowadays I just watch ApparentlyJack ranking up, Wayton, Musty occasionally and I think Jhzer plays Tekken and rarely every few months we get a moiments. And your videos have been the most interesting to watch this year. It's fun to watch Sunless making videos about rocket league being depressing and kind of making fun of players and how they behave in a way? Didn’t know he had a history channel :D Sad to see the game dying on UA-cam as well :(
Epic games - “oh, you like playing 4v4 rocket league with your 3 friends? Let’s make the 4v4 playlist seasonal so that quick half hour of rocket ball you’d play after work is no longer an option. Whaaaat you don’t have as much free time at a weekend? Tooo bad because that’s when the chaos will be on… oh, and we won’t be replacing it with any other perm 4v4 mode.”
If you hate Epic Games, then you hate Unreal Engine as well for being made by Epic Games, not because you think that it is terribly optimized with terrible framerate!
@@elite-forcecinema1788 I mean, maybe? If you hate someone, then you hate someone's child because said child was made by person you hate. It does sound like a non-sequitur.
yea i quit rl quite a while ago and i remember saying and hearing "i hope epic doesnt ruin this game ". unfortunately as you said, it took the soul out of the game and i dont enjoy playing it anymore and havent for a while. Nothing good has came out since epic and they took things away. your video is basically exactly how i feel about the game. 👍
If you hate Epic Games, then you hate Unreal Engine as well for being made by Epic Games, not because you think that it is terribly optimized with terrible framerate!
@@elite-forcecinema1788 your comment makes 0 sense. For one I never said I hate epic games. And 2, that doesn't even make sense that if I hated epic then I hate unreal engine.... did you have any thoughts before commenting that?
I truly felt this. I mean ive been thinking about this problem for a long time with Rocket League it just continues to be cemented in stone as the months and years go by. Ive been playing Rocket League since 2015 with my best friend for so long. We would spend so many hours playing. He then took a step back to focus on college and I continued to grind. I loved the competitive and mechanical ceiling of the game and I eventually became a coach. I would coach players from any rank and then eventually worked with a few semi pro teams and it was awesome the community and feeling to be part of such a unique game. But then I quit. My drive for the game tanked in 2021. I was dealing with a lot of mental health problems and trying to struggle through school. I had lost the drive and I lost the feeling of love that came from Psyonix when working on their game. It was very apparent the game needed some attention. And I really thought Epic might actually help support Psyonix and grow the game, but instead it received nothing, got its name put in Fortnite and its name added to the money pit that is modern games. It really hurts seeing a game I was so passionate about and cared for fade into the unknown. I know I am not the only person who feels this way either. And eSports is still fun to watch, but it doesnt have the same charm as the first 8 seasons of RLCS. The worst part is I traded playing RL for playing Overwatch and if yall know, you know that game also struggles with their dev team and balancing, but at least they are trying every update that comes out. But its just sad seeing these major competitive games die for the casual player. Especially with how special Rocket League is, such a unique concept for a game and a 1 of a kind. I will also love Rocket League and the true drive it gave me for competitive video games, but I just wish it would receive the love it should from Psyonix and Epic.
good on you for stepping back without fear! i used to make rocket league content, and i grew tired very quickly. as a champ, there is absolutely no content i can make that the algo favors anymore… so i moved on! i took a leap of faith and it’s working out better. i’m 100% certain it’ll work for you!
man i still love rocket league. like, the game at it's core is just so damn good. but everything around it fucking sucks, including the devs. I really think removing trading was the turning point for this game. I mean, what an absolutely dogshit decision.
I mean how else they gonna get you to buy a goal explosion for 20$, when your friend just gives you his hand me downs lol. Whats funny is when I started in 2015, I prob spent hundreds of dollars buying 5 keys for 5$ every couple days for a random shot a Black Market, and havent once spent 20$ to make one I actually wanted. But thats considered gambling now lol.
devs had nothing to do with the trading. In fact, they aren't the ones to blame for anything of bad that is happening to the game. It's all about epic games being greedy bastards and don't giving a flying fuck to players, pros and teams.
The turning point was the company behind RL being sold to Epic. Just like how the quality of your favorite local restaurant dropped off right after being bought by private equity or whatever, corporations with effectively unlimited resources are killing everything good (including us by poisoning the environment).
I've been playing since not long after launch and have struggled more and more the last few years as well. I don't want to drop the game that has brought new friends and so much good into my life, not to mention the hours that I have poured into it, but it hasn't given anything back in a long, long time and that makes it so hard to continue. Totally agree with all your points here. I wasn't subbed before, but I am now. Looking forward to seeing what you do in the future, speech!
Love to see outher content creators out there supporting you. Ive been playing since 2018. I love RL. It has a place in my heart. But ive simply gone on to other games. You can't let a game stagnate while also removing features like trading and expect the game to grow. They really mismanaged RL imo. Still no beach ball/volley ballmode
Shit. It hurts. This game has so much potential. I loved your content and i can't bear the other games. Fps ? I don't like playing kbm or improving my aim. Other games ? Yeah i like subnautica, minecraft... But none of them are competitive games. Not one can be compared to rocket league. Not one can make me love to hit shots when im just alone playing in free play. And still, Epic's ruining everything. Every content creators i like, except for the one truly passionnate. Every bit of fun i have in this game is just fading away as epic's incapability and nonchalance is growing every day where they don't add anything exciting to this game. I fell in love with this game but still it is dying days after days, being eaten bit by bit by a company caring only abt immediate profit, not knowing what managing a game is like. Sorry man i hope you have fun on your journey... Im staying subscribed bcs im curious but this shit is way too depressing (it doesn't affect me that much in my life but i hate what's happenning to the game. It could be the number 1 game in the world but epic is too dumb to realise. It's too unfair)
I was never interested in RL content and never saw a single video about it, but this video was recommended to me for some reason. I really liked the style of humor in the video, your editing and pacing got some pretty good giggles out of me, so I'm now subscribed and will be looking forward to your future content! Best of luck!
It's a game that's sole existence is to play soccer with flying cars and nothing else, I'm fucking surprised it even lasted this long but you can't really change anything or add to a sports game that's just...soccer
what they needed would be to embrace community content. add a decent way to open games with custom maps and make it easy for others to find and join them. embrace that shit and your game gets basically free extra content. there are other games that did that so well too.. track mania is basically "just racing" but still the game lives off of the community and nadeo does stuff. warcraft 3, before blizzard decided to milk World of warcraft and go full corporate bullshit... the thousands of fun maps that were created. DOTA started out from there and LOL was inspired by the dota fun map. tower defense games like element TD were a warcraft 3 map before becoming a stand alone game. what did they do? they provided a high quality map editor and made it easy for people to share their maps in easily accessible custom lobbies. counterstrike same thing. sure, mapping there isn't as newbie friendly, but still possible and done. there have been quite a few weird maps and mods for counter strike too that also brought in some alternative to the standard competetive game modes. not sure how that continued after 1.6 as I didn't really like source and never really came back due to other games being my focus but still.
bro crazy i hate rocket league now and i saw this video and thought epic was gonna take the servers offline or something but seeing a young upstart creator grind is inspiring and hopefully i will get to see more of that in the future
I know my channel isn't nearly at the scale of yours, but every single thing you said in this video resonates with me as well. RL is just getting stale and its awful to see. Incredible video.
Meanwhile, me from an Overwatch side... We were nearly in the same boat as well 😭 the most popular videos end up being 1 v 10 rank stuff, elo hell stuff, or why the game is dying. Though I can say that we do fortunately get more "content" in comparison to RL, I can sympathize with this feeling. We had it damn near back around 2020 when the game received zlich updates for a "sequel"... The purpose of the sequel that soon got cancelled was to focus on PvP. Couldn't help but feel deja vu, sorry the community is going through this ❤
I’ve not played Rocket League in probably 8 years, and I never paid attention to UA-cam videos about it. I love the way this video was made and had to throw a subscribe your way. Looking forward to whatever you put out next!
yeah thats probably over all the years since 2015. Of course over 9 years its gonna have a ton of players, from its prime in 2015-2017 and around when epic games took over they had like a million players at a time. But now the games dead in the sense that its headed nowhere
Rocket league before epic games: New content, fresh ideas, bug fixes, balancing, community engagement Rocket league after epic games: Took several months to fix a game breaking ddos issue which should have taken days, no new content in years, money oriented strategy, 0 community engagement, DLC cars no one gives a shit about, trying to send all the RL players to Fortnite by saying your items will be compatible with Fortnite. Rocket League would have continued to grow if Psyonix never sold out to epic games for a quick buck. I would say “Psyonix we need you!” But clearly they gave up on us before we did them. It’s so sad to see one of the most iconic and addicting games go down the shitter like this. GG. (Also I finally reached grand champ the other day, so I can finally rest in piece without ever coming back to this game)
I’m 31, I’ve got 3000 hours on the game, I’ve loved it so much but you are so right. The game is literally dying and nothing is done to even try to save it. It’s just so sad. At this point I just couldn’t have anymore fun on it, people got so frustrated playing this game they get so aggressive and toxic it’s very hard not to become toxic as well, because it’s only every time. It ruined so many good days I had, and only way to get better again was to quit a game I love. So good luck in whatever you are going for and if anyone can relate to what you said in this video i warmly recommend you to quit the game, it’s for the best. Maybe someday we could hope someone realise everyone is quitting, and he would eventually do something about it. Cheers everyone
I really just watched this video not knowing who you are or even anything about rocket league and while watching unknown content isn't that unusal, the fact that it's your final video about the game makes this situation a bit different. Well I'm glad it's this video I stumbled upon because now I can subscribe to you and see content about possibly games that I'm interested in and even if not that much I know that they will be well made.
Not a big rocket league player and this is pretty much the only rocket league video I’ve watched but I subbed because I’m excited to see what’s next on this channel. Let’s get it
Only thing I have to say in regards to your points has to do with RLCS. I think this is the best time period we've seen for the competitive scene from a skill level. No one watches hockey, football, or baseball to elementary gameplay and mistakes. That's usually what gets people upset. People want to watch high level professional gameplay. And with all of the current knowledge the pro scene has, it's making for fantastic rocket League. The thing I think should have been mentioned is the funding/marketing for RLCS and non psyonix organized events not being as prevalent (the ewc, FIFA event, and upcoming 1s/2s/3s events are a good start.) And just another thing to note, the lack of involvement of pros in the social media space. Some are active on Twitter, but majority of them aren't on twitch or UA-cam. A lot of people gravitate towards kaydop, squishy, retals, appjack because they put in the time and effort to upload content or stream all the time. We get to see their personalities. These are relatively older pros as well, and none of the younger pros are at that same level of content
All the power to you. I jumped late on the rl wagon and after 3 seasons and barely touching champ I’m tired of it. Toxic teammates are not the exception, they’re the rule. So much so that I already expect it going in a game. When I make a mistake I’m already dreading the next comm from my teammate. It’s just not fun anymore.
If you hate Epic Games, then you hate Unreal Engine as well for being made by Epic Games, not because you think that it is terribly optimized with terrible framerate!
GG friend. I feel the exact same way as you. I started playing RL in 2015 during the free if you had PSN+ launch and fell in love with it. I played almost daily for years and thought I'd never stop playing it for the rest of my life until EPIC took over. Now I haven't played in forever but I had some fun times.
As someone who comes from a game with an average of 16-70 average viewers (depending on the day) on twitch, I totally understand. I am new to your channel, but this is completely relatable, and I want you to know that I find your arguments fair and well reasoned. I wish thee well on your new gaming adventures.
Interesting take, but yeah I totally disagree. I'm into it for the sporting aspect and progression of the game, and since RL has basically no skill ceiling the game always progresses. Pros are always finding new mechanics and ways to improve. To me there's no other game that compares in this sense.
If you're interested in my future content then remember to subscribe! Coming very soon and I'm excited to share my vision with the world (the editing/style takes similarities from this video). If you wanna keep up to date join the discord here: discord.gg/bS4BFzQ8mk
I've drifted away from epic's games as a whole, removing trading was the last straw on RL for me and fortnite gave me a perfect sendoff with the OG season. Haven't looked back since.
i kinda agree with the rlcs thing ive been thinking that for a minute, everyone is so good and so close to the skill cap, that like, there's no real difference in players. you hide the names and it's impossible to tell who is who- they all play perfect
I don't think I've ever seen any of your videos before, but you nailed the emotions I've felt the past few years. From no meaningful content with Leth trying and trying, the tonedeaf customer relations when we cried out as a community, and then the eventual end of trading and scrapping Psyonix for parts to create a racing game... Then the removal of Snow Day as a permanent game mode was the last straw. It hurts to play RL now.
People don't complain about Super Smash Bros not having new content. The game doesn't need it. It's essentially a sport. You don't hear NFL players going "I wish we had football racing"
Smash does get a little bit of new stuff, but I agree with what you’re saying. Especially cause there’s no classes or skill trees in RL it’s just soccer with rc cars, it’s simplicity is the greatest strength but also a limiting factor
100% Like...the game's still there. Nothing's changed. Like, who cares if the new DLC sucks? You still have the game and all the old content that you liked before, none of that went away. I really don't understand the mentality of needing a constant steam of new content in order to not hate something. I came for car soccer, and I still get to play car soccer. Everything else is just window dressing.
@@ASFalcon13 Exactly, people's attention span is too small these days. They need something new and shiny to stimulate their brain. It's sad because I wish we didn't need people like that playing but it's the only reason Epic Games keeps the game alive because it makes them money. I have a feeling in a few years we will have to download the game off of some website and use a private server. That's what they did with Mario Kart for the Wii
The difference between Smash Bros and Rocket League is that Smash has a lot more room for creativity and trying out new things. There are 89 characters in Smash, each with completely different moves and playstyles. There are plenty of community-made stages that are easy to play in-game. It was also publicly announced that there was going to be very few updates to the game after Sora was released. Rocket League, on the other hand, just started going downhill after Epic Games took over. Updates slowed down, and the updates that did come out mostly just removed meaningful content (i.e. trading, dropshot/snowday switching to a rotation) and added new low-effort cars. It has turned from a company that cares about the game being in charge to a company that is just attempting to suck as much money out of the game as possible before it dies.
@@therealjollification ...and if Rocket League's updates actually affected game, you might have a point. But they don't. The game standardized to 6 hitboxes and a single arena layout in 2017, nearly 2 years before Epic ever got their hands on it. The game's never been about giving players a huge amount of movesets and character balances, it's always been about giving everyone the same platform and letting player skill itself be the differentiator. So, like I said, window dressing. Doesn't matter what new cosmetics come out, it's always the same six hitboxes and single arena underneath. It might sound like I'm criticizing RL here, but I'm not - like @thisgoodstuff4057 pointed out, it's more like a real-world sport in that respect. Going back to the NFL...aside from the goalposts being moved to the back of the end zone in 1974, football fields have been a standard size for over a century. There are plenty of folks playing RL for precisely that reason: because it's a simple, standardized core concept that rewards player skill, and isn't getting continually cluttered up by the endless addition of badly-balanced addons. I'll concede the point about Dropshot and Snow Day (since I'm a big Snow Day fan), but I couldn't care any less about trading (since, again, the tradeables didn't affect gameplay anyway).
Sadly this is the first time your channel has been recommended to me by youtube, and I've been watching rocket league content for years. Fully agree with your take here.
Just came across this video when Googling if Rocket League is dead, and honestly this video is pretty much spot on. I just took my leave from it today because of 1 thing that wasn't mentioned. Smurfs. Literally in the last 3 ranked games I played, there was a smurf every single time just rank boosting his buddy, I already had dropped to gold 2 because of them, and seeing people air dribbling like it's nothing, flip resetting, ect at Gold 1 rank is pretty much a dead giveaway.. (especially when he only played 80 games and has 60% goal scoring) next to everything you mentioned, seems like the only way to climb in this game anymore is by begging a C or GC to carry you.. So yeah I'm done with this game.
Rocket League just isn’t the type of game you are supposed to make UA-cam content about. You could, and you have done so, but rocket league content is meant to be played or watched in a sport setting.
Kind of disagree. Always liked watching people like neat mike and mertzy playing and joking with other people. The sport aspect i think is kind of boring in this game everyone feels too good.
I almost hit champ rank about 6-10 times. I’m not the most mechanical player, I have clear deficits in things I’ve basically refused to learn like wave dashing, better flip control, kickoffs and especially air control - however, I’ve been consistently high Diamond ceiling for years; primarily MMR tanked all around, I’ve been PLAT for three seasons. I’ve been angry and depressed, it’s like watching 8 year olds that think they’re really good, and having teams make bronze choices constantly. I get my kicks and joy from The Crew 2 these days, consistently top 4k in weekly PvP, and just try to ambient coexist in Rocket League without losing my sanity. I relate to pretty much all of this. Best of luck in your current and future endeavors. Do what makes you happy. It’s all that really matters in life.
Well said. I was hooked for 4 years straight until 2023/2024. Got GC, loved it, and suddenly in 2024 the game seemed to get toxic threefold. It’s just simply unenjoyable, don’t think I’ll ever be back and im kinda happy lol
My new channel: www.youtube.com/@sp77chers
why did u delete ur old vids
I didn't detect a single lie! Very good video. Not to try to persuade you to change your mind, but for what it's worth I still really enjoy making RL content occasionally, but only because I:
A) Took a long break and B) Detached from the idea of being so involved in the game so much that it takes 100% of my creative passion
Now I see RL as less of my job and more just a fun thing on the side that I make a video on every month or two and ONLY if I feel like it. I guess all I'm saying is definitely explore other topics, you will KILL it, but don't close every door either! RL can still be fun to make videos about even when it's so, so depressing.
thank you sunless you're a good man
sunless single handedly brought back my love for rl with the vulcan 😊
i love your new channel as someone who reads about history on the side when i find the time
When Napelon part 5?
If Sunless just made a video of all the toxic and wholesome interactions he's experienced every month ill tune in for that. Shit is hilarious!
You could literally do videos on any game or content and you will crush it! Excited to see what you rock!
Dude I would watch your videos on my lunch break instead of being a normal kid and socialising 🤣 i appreciate the kind words
@@sp77ch same! ^^
nothing but love Jon!
John sandman are u logia or nah
@@sp77chthere is no such thing as normal. You do you and enjoy your life ❤😊
Jon sandman you were the first RL player I followed. I love you man, shout out to you
Haha thanks for the kind words, I was ready to get roasted lol
I agree though, I don’t really feel personally connected to Rocket League like I used to. The main thing keeping me going is that I just love editing and creative storytelling (but even that can get repetitive with RL). It’s so much less about the game for me at this point to be totally honest
Good luck with the future of the channel! Excited to see what you do next
Haha thanks man, anybody can see the love you have for video-making. My talent is being able to make fun of absolutely anything, but i couldn't when the quality is that high level
@@sp77ch Im not gonna lie, i didnt expect to see wayton here lol.
@@sp77ch talk about how Minecraft videos are now a days but yes still the same with RL too
@@sp77ch speech, you have a great way of storytelling and humor. No matter what video you're making, it will always be a banger in many of our books.
Rocket League right now is like if Minecraft never had modders/minigame coders or Trackmania never had the community making maps for the game.
The Trackmania analogy is perfect. It's not that people wouldn't play the game if it weren't for custom maps, but you can only play the official tracks for so long before you go insane. Essentially what's happening to RL
@@Qubk0and TM community is great. Cup and text chat provides a built in community. And map review. And i see some of the same players over and over. And I'm in lobbies (hunting cup maps, or in quails) with the best players in the world, despite being a mid-player myself.
RL doesn't cultivate any community. TM does. So i have fun playing rocket league, but after 30-45 minutes, it starts to feel empty & unfulfilling.
And RL built in toxic quickchats like what-a-save. The game's social infrastructure (or lack thereof) cultivates toxicity beyond just being competitive imo.
On top of TM's social infrastructure (also shoutout to TMX), it's just a good community. Most people are kind & thoughtful. I think most of us are old so that helps. 🤣
I love tm so much
Or Skyrim without booby modders
@@reed6514 yeah that summs up rl at moment i play rank for liek 30mins and are met with smurfs freestylers bossters or people that just bump all game doesnt and hasnt felt the same since 2019
It’s more like if Minecraft never added any new mobs, blocks, or weapons
Yep, well said dude. Looking forward to future content!
me too
some things just cant be changed.
Thanks, j in don’t have to watch the video now 😀
@@Stuka838tism alert
Who was it? Rocketslot? Who was training some girl to make it to "gc"? When she literally couldn't even make a basic air touches after months of training videos. What ever happened to that girl? Is she ssl yet?
Funny and accurate video tbh. You’ll crush what you do next bro!!
Saddest part is your legit the best rl content creator and now im gonna have to watch 71947184 plats vs 1 low ssl
maybe quit rl too
I advise u to watch ApparentlyJack and Retals’ 2 pros 1 keyboard series on both their channels. It’s really good. If u search it up u will find a playlist
@LivingforEntertainement I would but then I'd play leauge or smth
@@pinkb0yy303play car league
just watch pros like appjack squishy and chronic
0:26 its even more ironic that this video is now the best performing video on this channel 😂
Bruh lmfaooo
He already touched on that subject in the actual video. People having negative emotions about the game get more views
I can’t believed I discover the best rocket league UA-camr on his last rocket league video😭😭😭
haha it do be like that, if you liked this video then stick around i have some crazy good ideas brewing not too different to the style of this!
Us
Us
Oof ye
@@sp77ch Here for whatever you do next (whatever you do first, for me 😅)
Whatever you do next you're going to crush. What makes your videos good is you, and your editing style. Rocket League may have been the reason to start, but personally I'm excited to see where you take your talents.
Always said I selfishly wish I had the money to pay you full time to edit. You got this 👍
Thank you i always loved watching your reactions to the ole meme rewinds
there is something poetic about the last clip of a quitting rl video being an absolute masterclass of a dribble, just to miss the open net
Nice shoot!
Nice shoot!
Nice shoot!
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@@PhillipAmthor liek if u cry everytim
Symbolically saying: Epic Games dropped the ball.
The content isn't a problem with rocket league, it's just car football, it doesn't need to be much more than that. The problem is epic limiting their game, removing it from steam, removing trading etc. Awful awful company that can go to hell.
I was just talking to my parents at their house this morning about how I was getting really burnt out on playing this game and how the UA-camrs that I used to watch consistently (Pickapixel, CoralCoke, etc.) are unable to make their old content due to trading being removed. This game brought me so much joy in my teens and early twenties but it’s time for something new for me too.
i wish i could talk to my parents about gaming lol
pickapixels a crying twat anyway
This is such a rare post, 90% of parents get disappointed/embarrassed around that topic
My parents wanted me to try and grind to being a pro, but I’ve been playing the game for so long now and I’m gonna be in my 20s soon, feel like I’ve become unc status seeing all these younger pros dominate the scene whilst my skill level has remained the same for a couple years now no matter how much training I give myself. Was on a crazy rise back in the day so it hurts explaining it to my parents haha
@@Sky-Bananas what rank are you
As a very casual player (since 2016, about 950 hours), I see rocket league as doing great. I love that it's something I can depend on, like chess the core game never changes. I'm a big counterstrike enjoyer too because it doesn't change much either.
In an era of online service games that change the meta every month, it's nice to have something that's consistent and familiar to go back to. No matter what it feels like the same exact game as 2016 and I love it for that.
I don't like the removal of trading (I was quite sad about that), but I overall think the epic acquisition was positive in my eyes. Sure, we lost trading but before the acquisition que times were getting kind of long and I kept going up against the same players. As long as the base game is the same and there's a good pool of players I'm happy.
I definitely understand your complaints, but as someone who's very casual about the game none of it really touches me personally. I don't find myself wanting more from the game ever. Honestly I don't understand how a racing game would really work. I think new content is good, don't get me wrong but I think you're just getting bored of the game. The game is pretty much the exact charming masterpiece it was when you started playing, you just are losing interest and that's okay. I don't think you should hang on every little potential content release to try and save the feeling like someone who's desperately trying to save a romantic relationship that's just not working out anymore for either person.
With that said though, I wish they would do something about toxic players. Perhaps they could implement a system similar to what overwatch has with commending players for good behavior?
Solid comment. Often, I think it's us casual folks that enjoy it because we don't take it all that seriously. We haven't made it our whole identity, we haven't made a job out of it...we just play, and remember that it's still just a silly little game about cars playing soccer.
the problem is the free to play thing. free to play is nice to get a huge player base (if the game is good enough to begin with) and it also invites all sorts of shit behaviour because a ban will only lock an already free account and on you go create the next one.
the same doesn't apply for other games as the initial cost is a (re-)entry barrier that I think twice if I want to waste that money with shitty behaviour.
and what also helped counter strike at least when I still played it at CS 1.6 times was the ton of private servers. no sweating, playing the same people over multiple games, thus socializing instead of having new randoms every game. possibiliy of custom maps that are easily accessible (i remember all the surf maps and HE maps by the community. that's not really rocket science in terms of creative new map and game mode ideas, but its a little extra diversity that helps keeping the game fresh already)
Yup this is exactly how I see it. The core gameplay will always be the same. I think people are just bored.
Nooooo, you were actually good. Especially the meme recaps. We will miss you.
Kinda crazy that almost every single rocket league creator is coming to this same conclusion and this was such an avoidable thing. If they just listened to the community more over the years I can only imagine where the game would be and how different things could be. Either way, definitely going to sub and see what you make going forward!
As a fellow unc, I hear this, nothing for me will come close to the community in 2018-2020 and it comes down to those in charge of the game and esports decisions. You have a talent for entertaining digestible content & I'm sure if you are actually passionate about the basis of the content it will be great quality that people will stick around for.
o7
thank you sir, our 3v3 games that we turned into 1v1 backboard booms to each other will never be forgotten
I wanna keep holding on... I know it's futile... But I wanna believe as foolish as it may be.... Things will never be the same. Nothing fills the hole pre Epic Rocket League left behind... Not even Rocket League itself. Rest in peace little one🪦 Your journey is almost complete.
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2:38 it’s crazy that some people think 13K is failure, I could never convince 13,000 people to watch something I made and also make them willingly decide to continue watching my stuff
What's a failure is the obvious clickbait the loser used to get the views
@@xX_dash_Xx true
@@xX_dash_Xxspookluke meatrider
I have never seen or even been recommended a video of you until now. However, the way you talked about this is a nice change of pace from how everyone else does, happy to be a new sub
i haven't played rocket league in my life time but i can feel this
I completely get this Speech, I've had the same thoughts recently as an Unc myself. The only thing that's really keeping me going is RLCS and the friends I have in the RLCS. With that being said you keep making your documentary style videos for other games and I'm going to keep watching them. I wish you luck with whatever you do next.
that's the best first video i seen in my life,gg bro👏👏
From what I know, Retals and AppJack's two pros on one keyboard is unqiue. It's become my favorite RL content. It's absolutely halarious and interesting to watch them essentially relearn mechanics while using their game knowledge the best as possible. The biggest reason I watch it and am glad they decided not to stop it is that it's the few unique videos I've seen.
yeah, that and lethamyr with all his weird shit of fun maps, modified gameplay and stuff. but even leth with all his map making insanity can only get us so far. if the game at least had better support for custom games, like a lobby finder ingame where you can join random public lobbies and automatically download maps if you don't have them so its accessible to play community content... but nope.
@@MrLordLowbob bro epic games have all this money and power yet they cant do public custom maps. Its BS! Unbelievable that they just dont care at all about this game. But honestly I dont care anymore as I have moved on from RL now. They lost all their OG fans by now
I'm not buying the "I'm Old" thing. I'm almost 50 and started in 2015 and don't plan on stopping. I'll probably be stuck in Diamond at this point, but especially being older I feel pretty good about that too.
Rocket League came out after my 30th birthday. I never had a chance to be as good as the pros but found great satisfaction in reaching C3
It's about perspective though.
The point is that I feel completely detached from the community at this point because Epic attract swathes of children. I'm still playing the game cause it's fun as hell, but I'm not devoting a big portion of my life to it anymore
I am 41 and started in 2015 too.
This is one the greatest game ever made imo. But I dont have fun anymore. I play occasionally with friends that still want to play. 4K hours on this game.
Trust me you're the only 50 year old saying this, probably because you got nothing to play either
I don't know what I am more mad about. The idea that this video suggests the only thing I do is SSL vs Grand Champion videos when its a miniscule percentage (like 2 or 3?) of my almost 1000 videos, OR the fact that the video is right that no matter what whenever I do the video does well.
As someone who is looking to go full-time content doing Rocket League content here soon, I hear your sentiment. Here's to hoping there's a way for all of us to pivot if need be, but I fear I may be nothing without Dark(?)
Full time poor
full time cc until 2025
It's so sad seeing how rocket league is dying. I've discovered this game in 2020 when I was in search for new games with my friend. He didn't feel it, I loved it from the beginning and it became my favourite game since. 4,5 years passed and after 1,3k hours of playing I still do like launching the game and playing for some time while listening to music, but it's not the same now. What is more, I am going to the university soon and I won't have that much time as I had, so I'm also at the finishing stage I guess.
Never saw your content before, this video is the only one that got recommended to me, but I fully agree with you and I'm glad you're honest about how you feel. Good luck on your future plans!
Ty speech for ur amazing vids u put out. Each one of them was so different from other rl content that it was really refreshing to watch😊. Cya
I used to load this game up in the early days and just the music choice they made as it booted to the main menu was perfect and even that was so thoughtfully done, it got me so hyped to play the game, and now? Lmao it’s just depressing to boot it up, it just lazily turns on and goes to the menu with some random generic song
Very true I never thought about that. Even back then the music had soul, now you can tell it's just whatever makes them money.
I am happy to have met you in the scene! Looking forward to the new content 🤝
The fact that 3/4 maps for Lethamyrs showcased videos are my maps is hilarious to me
☠️ false
Ya you kill it with the maps man I've had some good times playing them with friends. Thanks for the fun times.
its so sad that rocket league never tried to embrace that shit, like e.g. warcraft 3 or track mania or to some lesser degree even counter strike did it. just make it possible to host private servers with custom maps or modded game behaviour and create the same stupid server list logic, where you can just browse all the publicly available private servers, join and automatically download the map.
imagine how much more traction weird and quirky funmaps would have gotten, because you don't need to find the players for private lobbies to even start playing it and instead just start that server with a map and people can connect if they want without having them to first get some connection credentials from someone else somewhere.
I just started playing rocket league lately and I'm having a lot of fun!
I really hope this game doesn't die..
as rocket league's certified #1 hater this video is too real. always interested in people calling out the game for the shit that it is. used to love it, but it's hard to love a game when the people in charge clearly don't
that’s where i am with destiny right now. I know the devs care, but the people in charge are driving it into the ground
The game is not the problem….
0:04 and 7000 kgs gained
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@@TySlumped2take a joke
didn't he just make a joke himself @@BBG_CJ
@@BBG_CJ can’t make a joke about a joke now
Heavy car bug be like:
#fuckepic
I'm not sure epic are to blame to be honest, the game is simple and has little opportunity in terms of variety. regardless, GG.
@@boneykingofsomewhere no no, fuck epic. I'm not going to go into detail but epic has continued to make "updates" that, more often than not, have genuinely removed content from the game. Makes absolutely no sense, and it's all in the name of selling more garbage to children on a DIFFERENT GAME. Rant over lol
@@boneykingofsomewhere Nah man they're just talentless and lazy, they are many ways of creating new modes and ways of monetizing the game, they just kept going in a direction that never worked
Epic vetos a lot of things psyonix wanted to do and destroyed their original vision.@@boneykingofsomewhere
@@boneykingofsomewhere if they hadn’t milked Fortnite as much as they did this game wouldn’t be where it is at now
I still haven't launched the game since they removed trading, and it is funny seeing Rocket League UA-camrs trying (with varying degrees of success) to keep finding fresh ideas.
the one val clip made me giggle more than any rocket league content has in a while
This is giving me videogamedunkey "I'm done with League of Legends" vibes
Nah that video was just dunkey coping with the fact he got perma banned for endorsing suicide
it's giving alright no cap
He also actually quit league after that thought so
@@jpuc5568 he first of all didnt endorse "society" but said he should be gunned down irl, and second he was banned for like a week. also nothing he said is wrong even in 2024 if you actually play league, its just china games dont know how to censor someone
Nowadays I just watch ApparentlyJack ranking up, Wayton, Musty occasionally and I think Jhzer plays Tekken and rarely every few months we get a moiments. And your videos have been the most interesting to watch this year. It's fun to watch Sunless making videos about rocket league being depressing and kind of making fun of players and how they behave in a way? Didn’t know he had a history channel :D Sad to see the game dying on UA-cam as well :(
Epic games - “oh, you like playing 4v4 rocket league with your 3 friends? Let’s make the 4v4 playlist seasonal so that quick half hour of rocket ball you’d play after work is no longer an option. Whaaaat you don’t have as much free time at a weekend? Tooo bad because that’s when the chaos will be on… oh, and we won’t be replacing it with any other perm 4v4 mode.”
who tf has 3 friends? stop crying
If you hate Epic Games, then you hate Unreal Engine as well for being made by Epic Games, not because you think that it is terribly optimized with terrible framerate!
@@elite-forcecinema1788 I mean, maybe? If you hate someone, then you hate someone's child because said child was made by person you hate. It does sound like a non-sequitur.
yeah i wish they would just have all the game modes available all the time but i don't think that would happen
@@user-zu1ix3yq2wu don’t have more than 3 friends?
We're going to miss you Speech ♥
I liked the part where he dissed your tiktok
@@zChiicken ☹
yea i quit rl quite a while ago and i remember saying and hearing "i hope epic doesnt ruin this game ". unfortunately as you said, it took the soul out of the game and i dont enjoy playing it anymore and havent for a while. Nothing good has came out since epic and they took things away. your video is basically exactly how i feel about the game. 👍
If you hate Epic Games, then you hate Unreal Engine as well for being made by Epic Games, not because you think that it is terribly optimized with terrible framerate!
@@elite-forcecinema1788 your comment makes 0 sense. For one I never said I hate epic games. And 2, that doesn't even make sense that if I hated epic then I hate unreal engine.... did you have any thoughts before commenting that?
I truly felt this. I mean ive been thinking about this problem for a long time with Rocket League it just continues to be cemented in stone as the months and years go by. Ive been playing Rocket League since 2015 with my best friend for so long. We would spend so many hours playing. He then took a step back to focus on college and I continued to grind. I loved the competitive and mechanical ceiling of the game and I eventually became a coach. I would coach players from any rank and then eventually worked with a few semi pro teams and it was awesome the community and feeling to be part of such a unique game. But then I quit. My drive for the game tanked in 2021. I was dealing with a lot of mental health problems and trying to struggle through school. I had lost the drive and I lost the feeling of love that came from Psyonix when working on their game. It was very apparent the game needed some attention. And I really thought Epic might actually help support Psyonix and grow the game, but instead it received nothing, got its name put in Fortnite and its name added to the money pit that is modern games. It really hurts seeing a game I was so passionate about and cared for fade into the unknown. I know I am not the only person who feels this way either. And eSports is still fun to watch, but it doesnt have the same charm as the first 8 seasons of RLCS. The worst part is I traded playing RL for playing Overwatch and if yall know, you know that game also struggles with their dev team and balancing, but at least they are trying every update that comes out. But its just sad seeing these major competitive games die for the casual player. Especially with how special Rocket League is, such a unique concept for a game and a 1 of a kind. I will also love Rocket League and the true drive it gave me for competitive video games, but I just wish it would receive the love it should from Psyonix and Epic.
good on you for stepping back without fear! i used to make rocket league content, and i grew tired very quickly. as a champ, there is absolutely no content i can make that the algo favors anymore… so i moved on! i took a leap of faith and it’s working out better. i’m 100% certain it’ll work for you!
man i still love rocket league. like, the game at it's core is just so damn good. but everything around it fucking sucks, including the devs. I really think removing trading was the turning point for this game. I mean, what an absolutely dogshit decision.
I mean how else they gonna get you to buy a goal explosion for 20$, when your friend just gives you his hand me downs lol.
Whats funny is when I started in 2015, I prob spent hundreds of dollars buying 5 keys for 5$ every couple days for a random shot a Black Market, and havent once spent 20$ to make one I actually wanted.
But thats considered gambling now lol.
@@tBeNz0 Yes that's a fairly clear example of gambling, I don't think that's a controversial point to make.
devs had nothing to do with the trading. In fact, they aren't the ones to blame for anything of bad that is happening to the game. It's all about epic games being greedy bastards and don't giving a flying fuck to players, pros and teams.
@@dacosta2104 Fair point. They did sell their soul to the devil that is Epic though and that's on them.
The turning point was the company behind RL being sold to Epic. Just like how the quality of your favorite local restaurant dropped off right after being bought by private equity or whatever, corporations with effectively unlimited resources are killing everything good (including us by poisoning the environment).
I've been playing since not long after launch and have struggled more and more the last few years as well. I don't want to drop the game that has brought new friends and so much good into my life, not to mention the hours that I have poured into it, but it hasn't given anything back in a long, long time and that makes it so hard to continue. Totally agree with all your points here. I wasn't subbed before, but I am now. Looking forward to seeing what you do in the future, speech!
Hey bro, I just wanted to say thank you for all the RL content you've made over the years
Love to see outher content creators out there supporting you.
Ive been playing since 2018. I love RL. It has a place in my heart. But ive simply gone on to other games. You can't let a game stagnate while also removing features like trading and expect the game to grow. They really mismanaged RL imo. Still no beach ball/volley ballmode
2:59, 2 seconds in is beyond crazy💀
This part always kills me because the game didn't even start yet so what could he possibly be mad about?? 😂😂
This is the first I've heard of you and am now subbed, can't wait to see what you can do other than RL.
Shit. It hurts. This game has so much potential. I loved your content and i can't bear the other games. Fps ? I don't like playing kbm or improving my aim. Other games ? Yeah i like subnautica, minecraft... But none of them are competitive games. Not one can be compared to rocket league. Not one can make me love to hit shots when im just alone playing in free play. And still, Epic's ruining everything. Every content creators i like, except for the one truly passionnate. Every bit of fun i have in this game is just fading away as epic's incapability and nonchalance is growing every day where they don't add anything exciting to this game. I fell in love with this game but still it is dying days after days, being eaten bit by bit by a company caring only abt immediate profit, not knowing what managing a game is like. Sorry man i hope you have fun on your journey... Im staying subscribed bcs im curious but this shit is way too depressing (it doesn't affect me that much in my life but i hate what's happenning to the game. It could be the number 1 game in the world but epic is too dumb to realise. It's too unfair)
try smash melee
@@weilzudope Thx but no i dont like these games :/
I was never interested in RL content and never saw a single video about it, but this video was recommended to me for some reason.
I really liked the style of humor in the video, your editing and pacing got some pretty good giggles out of me, so I'm now subscribed and will be looking forward to your future content!
Best of luck!
It's a game that's sole existence is to play soccer with flying cars and nothing else, I'm fucking surprised it even lasted this long but you can't really change anything or add to a sports game that's just...soccer
Yeah and even if they made rocket league 2 theres is literally nothing to improve exepct graphics
Honestly I still feel like creative mode would have changed the whole thing
what they needed would be to embrace community content.
add a decent way to open games with custom maps and make it easy for others to find and join them. embrace that shit and your game gets basically free extra content.
there are other games that did that so well too.. track mania is basically "just racing" but still the game lives off of the community and nadeo does stuff.
warcraft 3, before blizzard decided to milk World of warcraft and go full corporate bullshit... the thousands of fun maps that were created. DOTA started out from there and LOL was inspired by the dota fun map. tower defense games like element TD were a warcraft 3 map before becoming a stand alone game.
what did they do? they provided a high quality map editor and made it easy for people to share their maps in easily accessible custom lobbies.
counterstrike same thing. sure, mapping there isn't as newbie friendly, but still possible and done. there have been quite a few weird maps and mods for counter strike too that also brought in some alternative to the standard competetive game modes. not sure how that continued after 1.6 as I didn't really like source and never really came back due to other games being my focus but still.
bro crazy i hate rocket league now and i saw this video and thought epic was gonna take the servers offline or something but seeing a young upstart creator grind is inspiring and hopefully i will get to see more of that in the future
5:15 id love to see what new content you make!
I know my channel isn't nearly at the scale of yours, but every single thing you said in this video resonates with me as well. RL is just getting stale and its awful to see. Incredible video.
Meanwhile, me from an Overwatch side... We were nearly in the same boat as well 😭 the most popular videos end up being 1 v 10 rank stuff, elo hell stuff, or why the game is dying.
Though I can say that we do fortunately get more "content" in comparison to RL, I can sympathize with this feeling.
We had it damn near back around 2020 when the game received zlich updates for a "sequel"... The purpose of the sequel that soon got cancelled was to focus on PvP. Couldn't help but feel deja vu, sorry the community is going through this ❤
You're still in the same boat and never got out of it since then lol
I’ve not played Rocket League in probably 8 years, and I never paid attention to UA-cam videos about it. I love the way this video was made and had to throw a subscribe your way. Looking forward to whatever you put out next!
Rocket league has 83.500.000 players so it not dead
yeah thats probably over all the years since 2015. Of course over 9 years its gonna have a ton of players, from its prime in 2015-2017 and around when epic games took over they had like a million players at a time. But now the games dead in the sense that its headed nowhere
he means its getting less fun but it isnt even close to dead
One of the actual best rl videos ive seen in a year lol hope you have success in your next endeavors!
Rocket league before epic games:
New content, fresh ideas, bug fixes, balancing, community engagement
Rocket league after epic games:
Took several months to fix a game breaking ddos issue which should have taken days, no new content in years, money oriented strategy, 0 community engagement, DLC cars no one gives a shit about, trying to send all the RL players to Fortnite by saying your items will be compatible with Fortnite.
Rocket League would have continued to grow if Psyonix never sold out to epic games for a quick buck. I would say “Psyonix we need you!” But clearly they gave up on us before we did them. It’s so sad to see one of the most iconic and addicting games go down the shitter like this. GG.
(Also I finally reached grand champ the other day, so I can finally rest in piece without ever coming back to this game)
Glad I dind't go play on epic then, lmao
Fortnite saved the game, by bringing the only good thing about Rocket League (the cars) over to Fortnite :D
@@Elion-c8t least obvious rage bait
@@Zovixi Fortnite is a good game? Rocket League is garbage, that's really it ig
@@Elion-c8t womp womp
I’m 31, I’ve got 3000 hours on the game, I’ve loved it so much but you are so right. The game is literally dying and nothing is done to even try to save it. It’s just so sad. At this point I just couldn’t have anymore fun on it, people got so frustrated playing this game they get so aggressive and toxic it’s very hard not to become toxic as well, because it’s only every time. It ruined so many good days I had, and only way to get better again was to quit a game I love. So good luck in whatever you are going for and if anyone can relate to what you said in this video i warmly recommend you to quit the game, it’s for the best. Maybe someday we could hope someone realise everyone is quitting, and he would eventually do something about it. Cheers everyone
whatever this type of editing and commentary is called i like it
im coining it garf style
I think this happens to any game. Part of being a creator is evolving and moving on. Good luck man!
Amazing send off, wouldn’t expect anything less from you. Glad we got to do that collab vid, looking forward to whatever nexts in your YT journey ❤
Subscribed. I can't wait for more Rocket League content!
Uhhhh never played or watched any rocket league, idk why this was in my recommended, but the video was enjoyable.
I really just watched this video not knowing who you are or even anything about rocket league
and while watching unknown content isn't that unusal, the fact that it's your final video about the game makes this situation a bit different.
Well I'm glad it's this video I stumbled upon because now I can subscribe to you and see content about possibly games that I'm interested in and even if not that much I know that they will be well made.
I think RL is damn fine to play. I don't care about bs content videos. It's OK to have a game thats on its own enjoyable.
Not a big rocket league player and this is pretty much the only rocket league video I’ve watched but I subbed because I’m excited to see what’s next on this channel. Let’s get it
I left it 2 years ago. They easily could create new modes but instead focus on the rocket pass and stupid skin items
Only thing I have to say in regards to your points has to do with RLCS. I think this is the best time period we've seen for the competitive scene from a skill level. No one watches hockey, football, or baseball to elementary gameplay and mistakes. That's usually what gets people upset. People want to watch high level professional gameplay. And with all of the current knowledge the pro scene has, it's making for fantastic rocket League. The thing I think should have been mentioned is the funding/marketing for RLCS and non psyonix organized events not being as prevalent (the ewc, FIFA event, and upcoming 1s/2s/3s events are a good start.)
And just another thing to note, the lack of involvement of pros in the social media space. Some are active on Twitter, but majority of them aren't on twitch or UA-cam. A lot of people gravitate towards kaydop, squishy, retals, appjack because they put in the time and effort to upload content or stream all the time. We get to see their personalities. These are relatively older pros as well, and none of the younger pros are at that same level of content
If they atleast kept trade the game would have an ok playerbase, but since they took it off, ROCKET LEAGUE IS DEAD.
All the power to you. I jumped late on the rl wagon and after 3 seasons and barely touching champ I’m tired of it. Toxic teammates are not the exception, they’re the rule. So much so that I already expect it going in a game. When I make a mistake I’m already dreading the next comm from my teammate. It’s just not fun anymore.
it died when it went epic store exclusive. The graveyard of games
Even worse, it became a Fortnite mode. Also rip all harmonix games.
If you hate Epic Games, then you hate Unreal Engine as well for being made by Epic Games, not because you think that it is terribly optimized with terrible framerate!
GG friend. I feel the exact same way as you. I started playing RL in 2015 during the free if you had PSN+ launch and fell in love with it. I played almost daily for years and thought I'd never stop playing it for the rest of my life until EPIC took over. Now I haven't played in forever but I had some fun times.
I quit RL 6 months ago and I haven‘t missed it lol. Problem is, I won’t get back all the time I wasted on that game.
As someone who comes from a game with an average of 16-70 average viewers (depending on the day) on twitch, I totally understand. I am new to your channel, but this is completely relatable, and I want you to know that I find your arguments fair and well reasoned. I wish thee well on your new gaming adventures.
rocket league exists?
Bruh
Interesting take, but yeah I totally disagree. I'm into it for the sporting aspect and progression of the game, and since RL has basically no skill ceiling the game always progresses. Pros are always finding new mechanics and ways to improve. To me there's no other game that compares in this sense.
If you're interested in my future content then remember to subscribe! Coming very soon and I'm excited to share my vision with the world (the editing/style takes similarities from this video).
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I’m thinking of uninstalling rl
Im not interested in any nearly other games than RL but want to give you a shot since youre a really creative and nice (I think) guy
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@@rafaplays7418I thought u liked portal and fall guys 😢
I've drifted away from epic's games as a whole, removing trading was the last straw on RL for me and fortnite gave me a perfect sendoff with the OG season. Haven't looked back since.
Very relatable man, imma subscribe just to see what you do next
i kinda agree with the rlcs thing
ive been thinking that for a minute, everyone is so good and so close to the skill cap, that like, there's no real difference in players. you hide the names and it's impossible to tell who is who- they all play perfect
I don't think I've ever seen any of your videos before, but you nailed the emotions I've felt the past few years. From no meaningful content with Leth trying and trying, the tonedeaf customer relations when we cried out as a community, and then the eventual end of trading and scrapping Psyonix for parts to create a racing game... Then the removal of Snow Day as a permanent game mode was the last straw. It hurts to play RL now.
2:13 WTF was that? That can’t be real right??
I went back like "did I hear that shit right?"
i quit this wasteland a long time ago, them removing trading was the final blow
I've never watched RL in my life, yet this video is getting recomended to me, and honestly, I'm here for the ride now
People don't complain about Super Smash Bros not having new content. The game doesn't need it. It's essentially a sport. You don't hear NFL players going "I wish we had football racing"
Smash does get a little bit of new stuff, but I agree with what you’re saying. Especially cause there’s no classes or skill trees in RL it’s just soccer with rc cars, it’s simplicity is the greatest strength but also a limiting factor
100% Like...the game's still there. Nothing's changed. Like, who cares if the new DLC sucks? You still have the game and all the old content that you liked before, none of that went away.
I really don't understand the mentality of needing a constant steam of new content in order to not hate something. I came for car soccer, and I still get to play car soccer. Everything else is just window dressing.
@@ASFalcon13 Exactly, people's attention span is too small these days. They need something new and shiny to stimulate their brain. It's sad because I wish we didn't need people like that playing but it's the only reason Epic Games keeps the game alive because it makes them money. I have a feeling in a few years we will have to download the game off of some website and use a private server. That's what they did with Mario Kart for the Wii
The difference between Smash Bros and Rocket League is that Smash has a lot more room for creativity and trying out new things. There are 89 characters in Smash, each with completely different moves and playstyles. There are plenty of community-made stages that are easy to play in-game. It was also publicly announced that there was going to be very few updates to the game after Sora was released. Rocket League, on the other hand, just started going downhill after Epic Games took over. Updates slowed down, and the updates that did come out mostly just removed meaningful content (i.e. trading, dropshot/snowday switching to a rotation) and added new low-effort cars. It has turned from a company that cares about the game being in charge to a company that is just attempting to suck as much money out of the game as possible before it dies.
@@therealjollification ...and if Rocket League's updates actually affected game, you might have a point. But they don't. The game standardized to 6 hitboxes and a single arena layout in 2017, nearly 2 years before Epic ever got their hands on it. The game's never been about giving players a huge amount of movesets and character balances, it's always been about giving everyone the same platform and letting player skill itself be the differentiator.
So, like I said, window dressing. Doesn't matter what new cosmetics come out, it's always the same six hitboxes and single arena underneath.
It might sound like I'm criticizing RL here, but I'm not - like @thisgoodstuff4057 pointed out, it's more like a real-world sport in that respect. Going back to the NFL...aside from the goalposts being moved to the back of the end zone in 1974, football fields have been a standard size for over a century. There are plenty of folks playing RL for precisely that reason: because it's a simple, standardized core concept that rewards player skill, and isn't getting continually cluttered up by the endless addition of badly-balanced addons.
I'll concede the point about Dropshot and Snow Day (since I'm a big Snow Day fan), but I couldn't care any less about trading (since, again, the tradeables didn't affect gameplay anyway).
Sadly this is the first time your channel has been recommended to me by youtube, and I've been watching rocket league content for years. Fully agree with your take here.
rl is so dead
Just came across this video when Googling if Rocket League is dead, and honestly this video is pretty much spot on. I just took my leave from it today because of 1 thing that wasn't mentioned. Smurfs. Literally in the last 3 ranked games I played, there was a smurf every single time just rank boosting his buddy, I already had dropped to gold 2 because of them, and seeing people air dribbling like it's nothing, flip resetting, ect at Gold 1 rank is pretty much a dead giveaway.. (especially when he only played 80 games and has 60% goal scoring) next to everything you mentioned, seems like the only way to climb in this game anymore is by begging a C or GC to carry you.. So yeah I'm done with this game.
Rocket League just isn’t the type of game you are supposed to make UA-cam content about. You could, and you have done so, but rocket league content is meant to be played or watched in a sport setting.
Kind of disagree. Always liked watching people like neat mike and mertzy playing and joking with other people. The sport aspect i think is kind of boring in this game everyone feels too good.
I almost hit champ rank about 6-10 times. I’m not the most mechanical player, I have clear deficits in things I’ve basically refused to learn like wave dashing, better flip control, kickoffs and especially air control - however, I’ve been consistently high Diamond ceiling for years; primarily MMR tanked all around, I’ve been PLAT for three seasons. I’ve been angry and depressed, it’s like watching 8 year olds that think they’re really good, and having teams make bronze choices constantly. I get my kicks and joy from The Crew 2 these days, consistently top 4k in weekly PvP, and just try to ambient coexist in Rocket League without losing my sanity. I relate to pretty much all of this. Best of luck in your current and future endeavors. Do what makes you happy. It’s all that really matters in life.
rocket league isnt dead.
I am actually really keen on seeing where you go from this.
Goodluck my brother content is hard
> Hit Grand Champion
> 2 months later Epic games buys RL
> Quit RL because of it
> Never come back
Without regret, best decision ever
Well said. I was hooked for 4 years straight until 2023/2024. Got GC, loved it, and suddenly in 2024 the game seemed to get toxic threefold. It’s just simply unenjoyable, don’t think I’ll ever be back and im kinda happy lol
Goodbye. Nice not knowing you.
The racing game mode bit is hilarious and accurate 😂😂😂