How Epic is killing Rocket League

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  • Опубліковано 13 жов 2023
  • The Rocket League community was surprised by a cold announcement from Epic Games, the owner of Psyonix to suspend a major part of the game, with very little explanation
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  • @kflip11
    @kflip11 8 місяців тому +5699

    What's worse is that Epic's CEO made a tweet about 3 months ago shaming companies that have greedy principles... and then has rocket league follow his own greedy principles

    • @AYJAYMES
      @AYJAYMES 8 місяців тому +33

      Imagine finding you here.

    • @blaze.3731
      @blaze.3731 8 місяців тому +21

      imagine finding you two here

    • @Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly
      @Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly 8 місяців тому +114

      In case anyone wants to know what Tim Sweeney said, it was the following: "I think platform companies should state their principles up-front and stick to them. The problem is in acquiring a large user base then transitioning from generous principles that users assumed were permanent to greedy new principles. It’s ultimately a bait-and-switch."

    • @okolei42
      @okolei42 7 місяців тому +40

      it's almost like hypocrisy and running multibillion dollar companies go hand in hand. Also hai old fren!!!!

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 7 місяців тому +4

      I'm surprised he didn't include the screenshot of that comment in this video.

  • @drmz_
    @drmz_ 8 місяців тому +2056

    Epic never disappoints when it comes to disappointing.

  • @PastorSkeptic
    @PastorSkeptic 7 місяців тому +366

    For the first few minutes I was genuinely worried that they were taking away training from the game and didn't realize sunless was just goofing around.

    • @Aarpollyon
      @Aarpollyon 7 місяців тому +9

      hahaha funny goof they're only removing one of the most crucial parts of the game ahahaha

    • @tissuetax6295
      @tissuetax6295 7 місяців тому +4

      sad thing is, epic will actually probably monetize training packs and still remove it at some point. I believed it cause epic actually would do some dumb s**t like that

    • @henxdl
      @henxdl 6 місяців тому +1

      same bc i was like yo wtf we dont have training I'm fr gonna quit

    • @ZayRLClips
      @ZayRLClips 3 місяці тому +1

      I was so confused that I didn’t hear this before

  • @DarkSansTV
    @DarkSansTV 7 місяців тому +130

    I personally can't throw my money at in-game items so the fact that this is leaving means the one way of getting items is being deleted from the game. In my eyes this is the most selfish move that could've been done and is very reminiscent of extreme corporate greed, the game should've remained in psyonix's hands because the game is now only a shell of it's former glory...

    • @user-bj5qi1hh7t
      @user-bj5qi1hh7t 6 місяців тому +1

      The video was about training being removed. not trading

    • @treverse_
      @treverse_ 6 місяців тому

      @@user-bj5qi1hh7t Watch the rest of the video

    • @bigcheese7709
      @bigcheese7709 6 місяців тому

      @@user-bj5qi1hh7tBro is lost😂

    • @justacoolguy5296
      @justacoolguy5296 5 місяців тому +4

      @@user-bj5qi1hh7t no it was about the ball being removed

  • @Quakke_RL
    @Quakke_RL 8 місяців тому +2297

    Its really heartbreaking to see rocket leagues downhill. I hope this doesn't actually happen.

    • @mattias1191
      @mattias1191 8 місяців тому +147

      They didnt remove training watch the whole video

    • @k_ehm
      @k_ehm 8 місяців тому +85

      Bud didn’t watch the whole video

    • @oslomapping
      @oslomapping 8 місяців тому +64

      Blud thought they removed training 💀

    • @turkeyboy5543
      @turkeyboy5543 7 місяців тому +42

      Video just ragebait tbh. He says later on they arent actually removing training, just trading. I hate youtubers that do this.

    • @jakeywakey_ow
      @jakeywakey_ow 7 місяців тому +48

      @@turkeyboy5543it’s a joke lil bro

  • @adams5116
    @adams5116 8 місяців тому +707

    Had me in the first half. As a casual gold/plat player I was absolutely gutted there but knew they couldn't have possibly done that.

    • @adams5116
      @adams5116 8 місяців тому +39

      Btw I don't care one bit about trading

    • @kyle28kye82
      @kyle28kye82 8 місяців тому +157

      I knew trading was going but when he said training i almost had a heart attack lol

    • @1upJeCK
      @1upJeCK 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@kyle28kye82 saaamee. Its my happy place when no one else is on 😅

    • @est727xx5
      @est727xx5 7 місяців тому +4

      @@adams5116 yeah trading was trash

    • @D44RK_Iced_Yogs
      @D44RK_Iced_Yogs 7 місяців тому

      @@adams5116you might not but many do. I found enjoyment collecting things before I quit the game.

  • @PlutoC17
    @PlutoC17 7 місяців тому +73

    To be honest I've never traded even once in thousands of hours of play so I won't miss it, but I am still concerned though because it just feels like the game is in an overall dive. For like a year it's just been grind ranked and sometimes they might actually put in a fun LTM that you only see for a few days and then not again for months. The thing that has kept me wanting to play has been the Esports/content creators but even that is starting to get stale for me. I wouldn't mind the lack of content if we had updates for UE5 but its just getting hard to believe that its anywhere near done. I get epic is a business and they want money but it just isn't sustainable for them to remove features while pushing profits.

    • @slovnicurling9808
      @slovnicurling9808 7 місяців тому +4

      I don't know what else beside playing ranked are you expecting from the game? What an update should have to satisfy you? If you don't enjoy the core gameplay of this game maybe stop hoping for something that doesn't exist and stop playing the game? Majority of the people are just playing the ranked. I don't know why they should cater to the people that don't want to play.

    • @Caff-pv8fg
      @Caff-pv8fg 7 місяців тому +1

      @@slovnicurling9808 they NEED to bring back knockout

    • @SniperHawk57
      @SniperHawk57 7 місяців тому +2

      @@slovnicurling9808yeah he’s just experiencing burnout, that core gameplay is all the game really provides lol

    • @emma6648
      @emma6648 7 місяців тому

      They’re removing trading bc of Fortnite

    • @ToxicOsOk
      @ToxicOsOk 7 місяців тому

      My dude, this is what the game has been ever since they stopped working on nonstandard maps.

  • @TinkerManMick
    @TinkerManMick 7 місяців тому +2

    I wouldnt be surprised if Epic gets the names of all the people swearing in this and bans them, Epic goin downhill

  • @Vaaltor
    @Vaaltor 8 місяців тому +1059

    it just sucks because the potential with this game has been seen and showcased for years by all the great content creators and the community. has the biggest potential for comp esports due to the casual watch ability across the world (as its car soccer). and they just have slowly killed one of the most simple yet beautiful games

    • @yozi1062
      @yozi1062 8 місяців тому +22

      Bro trading doesn’t affect gameplay

    • @terminal_noob4015
      @terminal_noob4015 8 місяців тому +59

      It affects an aspect of the game, content creators, and what if you want to trade something with your friend to have matching stuff or something

    • @danielrohovyy6073
      @danielrohovyy6073 8 місяців тому +1

      Now I won’t be able to practice and get good clips for Montages now guess it’s time to go back to fortnite

    • @epiksmokey
      @epiksmokey 7 місяців тому +2

      Do you think programmers, sound engineers, physicists and designers work for free? This money that trading sites earn should go to those who really care about the game and produce it.

    • @assootoshmotah2350
      @assootoshmotah2350 7 місяців тому +16

      @@epiksmokey Then why was it enabled in the first place? Maybe they were making enough money already. Do you truly think, this will result in pay rises of the programmers, managers, etc who are working on the actual game, OR just increasing the revenue of already rich assholes who only care about money and nothing else?

  • @dpackerman4203
    @dpackerman4203 8 місяців тому +448

    To me the problem is not so much that they’re removing trading and more so that Epic does absolutely nothing positive for Rocket League. No new game modes, no new unique maps, no new content. They just let the game sit and marinate while adding new items every season.

    • @D44RK_Iced_Yogs
      @D44RK_Iced_Yogs 7 місяців тому +27

      Wait they haven’t added ANYTHING new since they took over? Just items?! Tf is that BS, I’m glad I quit the game years ago. Though I wish I played more back then, it was a really fun time trading and finding new people.

    • @kivori3438
      @kivori3438 7 місяців тому

      @@D44RK_Iced_Yogsthe good thing they added was tournaments and the hot seeker game mode which is a blast to train on, other than that yeah all bad. Especially on trading side, first fucking up economy then removing trading completely

    • @jaybizzal
      @jaybizzal 7 місяців тому +39

      They added knockout but you cant even play it in private matches...

    • @opax
      @opax 7 місяців тому +15

      @@D44RK_Iced_Yogs to be fair they did add a few things but if you asked anyone what, no one could say they remember which just shows the quality of these updates.

    • @RoyalGraphX
      @RoyalGraphX 7 місяців тому +8

      @@opax they added nothing, it was still all psyonix, but this demand to remove trading comes from epic, so while they've done a few things. it was only to command psonix to constraint to its ideals, epic never directly controlled any content released by Psyonix, they only took away.

  • @MrB0MB3R
    @MrB0MB3R 7 місяців тому +26

    you had me in the first half with epic removing training i wouldnt even be suprised 🤣

  • @Adriono100
    @Adriono100 7 місяців тому +6

    Becoming a goat farmer doesn’t seem like such a bad option now

  • @SammichLS
    @SammichLS 7 місяців тому +597

    I love how sunless can turn such a heartbreaking bit of news for Rocket League and still find ways to laugh and have a good time

    • @hremostypas
      @hremostypas 7 місяців тому +2

      he looks fed up ah

    • @h1.s5n
      @h1.s5n 7 місяців тому +2

      my pfp is the opposite of yours

    • @SammichLS
      @SammichLS 7 місяців тому

      @@h1.s5n yes

    • @alshahriar6230
      @alshahriar6230 7 місяців тому

      ​@@hremostypasaren't we all

    • @vipetherap2722
      @vipetherap2722 7 місяців тому +1

      Like bashing people who traded items instead of the company that removed the trading capability, absolute genius.

  • @Nickname1557.
    @Nickname1557. 8 місяців тому +705

    This update is one of the only updates everyone in the rl community has agreed on

    • @shivster
      @shivster 8 місяців тому +17

      eh. doesn't matter too much to me

    • @DarkHaise32xshorts
      @DarkHaise32xshorts 8 місяців тому +25

      The games been dead for me since 2020 bruh why is it a big thing now 💀

    • @Brotato333
      @Brotato333 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@shivsteryou don't train??

    • @Duel53
      @Duel53 8 місяців тому +31

      @@Brotato333it’s trading not training

    • @cheeseman144
      @cheeseman144 8 місяців тому +5

      Bruh first trading now training…

  • @Casta2
    @Casta2 7 місяців тому +1

    One of the responses to the tweet said they were hoping for trading to be replaced with an in game auction house so you could set up trades and they could get accepted anytime with no risk of scam since the trades would be set up in advance.
    This is sadly too optimistic, if Epic had thought of a way to remove scams, make trading easier and automatic as your trades could get accepted anytime, they would have said something about it.

  • @alanbarnett328
    @alanbarnett328 7 місяців тому +5

    You had me scared so bad at the beginning, I've got 480 hours in game and rougly 35 of those are in actual matches, the rest being made up almost entirely by freeplay and dribbling courses. This is not a competitive game to me, it is a skill toy and the only reason I play is it's fun to make the car do cool shit. Thank god training is staying!
    Removing trading sucks, there've been a few cool items I wanted that weren't possible to get anymore, so I bought them from other people. I use bakkesmod as well, but it feels cool to actually have the things. It's gonna be really disappointing if in a few months from now I see some cool item I missed out on, and knowing that there's zero chance of me getting it.

  • @typeyournamehere3469
    @typeyournamehere3469 8 місяців тому +158

    An incredibly terrible decision on Epic's end.. how am I supposed to warm up without freeplay?
    And how do we know they won't just randomly decide to remove player-to-player trading next?

    • @Brotato333
      @Brotato333 8 місяців тому

      They already said they would lol

    • @dpackerman4203
      @dpackerman4203 8 місяців тому +37

      @@Brotato333it’s a joke

    • @garyschollmeier779
      @garyschollmeier779 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Brotato333dude...

    • @Brotato333
      @Brotato333 7 місяців тому +11

      In all fairness I read this comment before sunless realized what his video was about 😂 didn't notice he was making a joke

    • @StarbucksCoffey5280
      @StarbucksCoffey5280 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Brotato333 ok thats funny as shit

  • @TripppsTV
    @TripppsTV 8 місяців тому +93

    It’s completely unbelievable how tone deaf they have been. And I don’t think anyone should expect ANY further communication from them about this. They’re going to do it. It’s sad. They genuinely don’t care about us anymore. They haven’t communicated with us in a Long Time. GGs, I’ll miss this game.

    • @trumanbadra8003
      @trumanbadra8003 7 місяців тому +2

      bro relax you dont need to trade to have a good time

    • @opax
      @opax 7 місяців тому +13

      @@trumanbadra8003 why does everyone say this and miss the point. the point is that the decision to remove trading shows that epic doesn't care for the longevity of the game and that rocket league probably wont hold out much longer. Trading is one of the reasons but thats the main reason why people care so much.

    • @trumanbadra8003
      @trumanbadra8003 7 місяців тому

      @@opax idk it doesnt seem like that big of a deal to me. probably because i havent traded anything since like 2018

    • @ChimdaluEzeilo
      @ChimdaluEzeilo 7 місяців тому

      @@trumanbadra8003 the amount of websites, players dedicate themselves to trading think of rl garage

    • @silksongoutyet
      @silksongoutyet 7 місяців тому

      @@trumanbadra8003 but there is a whole community around trading there's a whole market around it

  • @ConnorTate-ur4bq
    @ConnorTate-ur4bq 4 місяці тому +2

    The remove everything in their path training, custom matches, even casuals, but they will never remove the item shop, because that is their greediness😞

  • @liammeistre1
    @liammeistre1 7 місяців тому +1

    Had me in the first half. I was like did i miss something

  • @Retroman1
    @Retroman1 8 місяців тому +82

    Im not suprised, i didnt think it would be this severe, but how do you take a community based game, and remove how the community interacts
    When i first started in this game i would spend days scrolling through trades trying to get a good inventory without spending a ton of money because i was in school, I listened to a lot of good music while doing that, now knowing other people wont get the opportunity to build an inventory on budget by being smart and retrading items, its saddening, genuinly

    • @zteir
      @zteir 8 місяців тому +9

      Same bro, even tho I only trade like during a phase for a few weeks every few months it’s still a genuinely good experience.

    • @est727xx5
      @est727xx5 7 місяців тому +1

      @@zteir Personally I always hated trading.

    • @Biwa_Hayahide
      @Biwa_Hayahide 7 місяців тому +2

      My friends and I would spends hours after high school trading on Xbox scrolling through the lfg for trades and checking spreadsheets for prices. We liked racing each other to going from nothing to something like bmds and tw zombas and dracos. Removing crates and adding the item shop killed any semblance of an item economy and now it’s just actually going to die. Entire communities and hobbies around trading and collecting will just be gone now.

    • @Retroman1
      @Retroman1 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Biwa_Hayahideexactly

    • @Retroman1
      @Retroman1 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@est727xx5 no one ever made you do it, you could have just searched for matches and ignored the items, but taking away trading for those who like it is different

  • @mikeyknight292
    @mikeyknight292 7 місяців тому +98

    While I don’t trade a lot, it was nice to know I could buy something for 100 credits exactly at the moment I wanted it. Also some Halloween/Christmas items are very rare and only release once every couple years. Plus there is literally no reason to do it except for more money

    • @TheThriven
      @TheThriven 7 місяців тому

      As some one with small kids who don't play RL as much as I do. I give a lot of items to my kids. I have been rocking the same octane huntress and Infinium's for about 3 years now. I don't change my car at all. My kids love getting the spoils and I wont be able to give them the tradable stuff I get. That being said, trading is a liability. People get their accounts hacked, lose their stuff, or get in some bad shady trades. Removing trading removes that. It also removes the need for support staff to assist hacked accounts in restoring their items. Pysonix could save hundreds of thousands in support staff by removing the feature and if your account gets hacked your stuff remains intact. I understand it will destroy the trading community that has setup a websites and services to sell items in-game but honestly... No one is obligated to keep another industry up at their own detriment.

  • @ebreezy4x
    @ebreezy4x 7 місяців тому +1

    Bro really had me perplexed thinking I misread trading for training for the first few minutes

  • @MechanicalExtras
    @MechanicalExtras 7 місяців тому +2

    Bro, at the start i thought they was removing trading, AND training. No, I have just been lied to.

  • @amin7224
    @amin7224 7 місяців тому +393

    What Sunless did whether it was intentional or not is actually genius , it showed that some player just don't care, even if the training got removed they still wont care .
    and if the ball itself got removed they probably wont too.

    • @randxalthor
      @randxalthor 7 місяців тому +6

      Yes. Yes, it was intentional...

    • @Vxlatile_RL
      @Vxlatile_RL 7 місяців тому +8

      Bro id be so fucking pissed. Idgaf about trading. Training tho? Id go ballistic

    • @I1ght961
      @I1ght961 7 місяців тому +1

      Thats for the “i just started 5 months ago or i dont really care too much i play casually” players. Not the majority of the player base which is probably over 90% of the games daily players. Which means most people part of the true community do care

    • @goolegsekjgas3118
      @goolegsekjgas3118 7 місяців тому

      damn bro theyll really be worried about that. Dont get too angry please sir@@Vxlatile_RL

    • @inferno6362
      @inferno6362 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Vxlatile_RLyou might be surprised when I'll let you know that there was no such thing as custom training until 2018 then.

  • @charpool169
    @charpool169 7 місяців тому +277

    Something i havent really seen mentioned is what this will do to the smaller creators who used the trading system to do giveaways that supported their channels, taking away a growth tool in this move too.
    Edit. We hit 169 likes, you can stop liking this now

    • @charpool169
      @charpool169 7 місяців тому +15

      Also the fact that if they are money hungry enough to remove the player to player trading, them actually going for bakkesmod next to force the item shop even more is a definite real possibility

    • @TheThriven
      @TheThriven 7 місяців тому

      There are promo codes in the game. If Psyonix wanted to meet half way they could have a system in which in-game items could be purchased by streamers and distributed via a code to their fans.

    • @mattyrl6969
      @mattyrl6969 7 місяців тому +4

      For real epic is just hurting their own game, many creators grew thanks to trading and if it wasn’t for them rocket league wouldn’t be half as famous.

    • @Mfbeidndkek
      @Mfbeidndkek 7 місяців тому +1

      Yup. As someone who has many friends and my own channel on twitch using giveaways to thank our community for the support. This, sucks. I haven't played it on stream since the day it was announced and plan not to untill it goes into effect. Im sick of smurfs. Im sick of slurs every other game. It's just, not worth it. Even with 8k hours

    • @user-bj5qi1hh7t
      @user-bj5qi1hh7t 6 місяців тому

      The video was about removing training mode though right?

  • @StormProGames
    @StormProGames 7 місяців тому

    The divide between those who trade and those who do not is due partly to the fact that new accounts are required to purchase something upwards of $10 before even being allowed to trade. Thus the item shop is the genesis of players with items now

  • @mdrieber
    @mdrieber 7 місяців тому

    The zoom in on the yuor... ❤❤❤ Lmao

  • @Thor-ly7lh
    @Thor-ly7lh 8 місяців тому +11

    Bro you got me in the beginning I was so shocked they were gonna take training as well

  • @Wapply
    @Wapply 7 місяців тому +89

    I strongly suggest everybody stop buying anything from the item shop. they’re doing this so they can make more money from the item shop. BOYCOTT THE ITEM SHOP

    • @rambcio4199
      @rambcio4199 7 місяців тому +3

      Stupid idea. They will close game instead if it will not earn money

    • @ItsBLADE42
      @ItsBLADE42 7 місяців тому +5

      It's gon be hard to boycott the item shop when right as they remove trading they gonna drop a "LIMITED TIME TWhite Octane!😱"

    • @nnconcerts99
      @nnconcerts99 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ItsBLADE42tbh losing trading for skins and not profit doesn’t matter to pc community, we have bakkesmod

    • @ItsBLADE42
      @ItsBLADE42 7 місяців тому +1

      @@nnconcerts99 I could easily see them removing Bakkesmod lol. They already thought about it in the past. And yeah I'm fortunate to recently become part of the PC Community

    • @DigitalPand3mic
      @DigitalPand3mic 7 місяців тому

      @@rambcio4199 they already fucked up the game enough, so fuck them.

  • @loganblankenship329
    @loganblankenship329 7 місяців тому +1

    "This just in, blue team sucks" is crazy😂😂😂

  • @pony0110
    @pony0110 7 місяців тому

    @johnsandman was the first Rocket League Creator I started watching and as my interest have changed it’s sad to see epic change things that have so much nostalgia, Rocket League has been such a constant in our lives over all these years, so many games have come and gone, yet we all still play RL and new people continue to find the game. You hit the nail on the head early in your video which I gullibly believed training had been removed, when you said an entire section of rocket league is being erased! Thanks for the update!

  • @tigmo55
    @tigmo55 8 місяців тому +91

    Thanks Sunless! I honestly needed a good laugh man. I don't trade as much as other players per se but it's still a really fun experience and it's honestly adds a personable feature to the game. I've literally met friends because of them wanting to trade items and it's genuinely fun with the right people. I know I have extra items I'd be more than happy to give away at this point too. Too bad most companies choose greed first and the players last. I hope Item Shop sales PLUMMET in the coming weeks/months. In any case, thanks Sunless. Don't ever change brother! :)

    • @D44RK_Iced_Yogs
      @D44RK_Iced_Yogs 7 місяців тому +1

      Fr, this is worse than I could imagine. As someone who loved the trading aspect, this video is a punch in the gut. Guess I won’t be coming back to RL anytime soon.

    • @mihaiteodor7763
      @mihaiteodor7763 7 місяців тому

      Can I have those items? Epic is Wetnarwhal270

  • @oneindogbeers725
    @oneindogbeers725 8 місяців тому +34

    Absolutely repulsive. Probably the most disgusting thing they could have done. Truly makes my stomach turn.

    • @CbrF4i600cc
      @CbrF4i600cc 8 місяців тому

      Really... it really makes your stomach turn?

    • @Me12222
      @Me12222 7 місяців тому +5

      chill tf out lmao

    • @JohnDoe-uq2qd
      @JohnDoe-uq2qd 7 місяців тому

      touch grass bro

    • @scubasteve6175
      @scubasteve6175 7 місяців тому

      ^^^ youtube commenters when they find out people have things called passions and appreciations for influential media ^^^

    • @oneindogbeers725
      @oneindogbeers725 7 місяців тому

      @@scubasteve6175 I dont even trade. Its more like a bunch of billionares scraping the last possible profit out of an already dying game that grosses me out. Its like a king going through and looting dead bodies for change in a warzone.

  • @Rythums57
    @Rythums57 7 місяців тому

    You really had me thinking I read it completely wrong😂

  • @Raicer.
    @Raicer. 7 місяців тому

    Back in the day I was trading items all night without sleeping and that's what gave me interest to the game. This is the reason why I kept playing and this is the reason why I am still sweating in ranked and watching all the RL esports tournaments.

  • @Tmoneycashdollarsign
    @Tmoneycashdollarsign 8 місяців тому +133

    Sunless is a mastermind at making these serious video topics into an entertaining one while also getting the community’s point across

  • @soccermaster3360
    @soccermaster3360 8 місяців тому +113

    I really hope that this has something to do with UE5 because otherwise epic games is just killing their game for no reason

    • @alexlull1338
      @alexlull1338 8 місяців тому +39

      there is a reason: money

    • @MadNoisy
      @MadNoisy 7 місяців тому +1

      If an UE5 version of Rocket Leage is being released, I can already hear the community screaming to go back to the original game 🤣🤣

    • @alexlull1338
      @alexlull1338 7 місяців тому +13

      @@MadNoisy ofc bc just like cs2 the game is unplayable cause it has so many bugs and glitches

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 7 місяців тому +3

      @@alexlull1338 "Unplayable" is not the correct word, lol.. CS2 is fine. The bugs will be patched, it's a new update..

    • @hhaste
      @hhaste 7 місяців тому +4

      Even so, they need to be more transparent with communication

  • @JustShmeegly
    @JustShmeegly 7 місяців тому +1

    Also on their discord. Moderators and devs had alt accounts to try and ease tension while also deleting messages

  • @dominichunt4672
    @dominichunt4672 7 місяців тому

    “ Here’s another perspective, WHAT A SAVE , WHAT A SAVE “ 😂

  • @tenacitytv_
    @tenacitytv_ 7 місяців тому +9

    LMAOO you got my boy Buckeye at 7:15 😂😂 But fr my hope for the future of this game keeps getting chipped away with every new announcement.
    They better be planning something big SOON or this game is toast

    • @watchf
      @watchf 7 місяців тому

      First like and reply

    • @meyk14
      @meyk14 7 місяців тому

      wassap ^_^

    • @inferno6362
      @inferno6362 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, I'm not so sure tenacity... I've heard that they're just doing it to add rocket league to fortnite. So I'm basically quitting after I just came back almost 3 - 4 years of Epic destroying me over and over again.

  • @ethanfischer5974
    @ethanfischer5974 7 місяців тому +24

    Bro... I literally almost cried. First trading, and now TRAINING!? My goodness did you have me in the first half. On a real note though, it's sad to see what this game has slowly come to. You can feel the shift over the years how it's not as much about us the players, our fun and experience in game. To now trying to benefit the people at the top of the pyramid. Rocket league will always have a special place in my heart, but it's just not the same.

    • @hardcarryjerry
      @hardcarryjerry 7 місяців тому +3

      you did not watch the whole vid the post said traDing not traNing

    • @ethanfischer5974
      @ethanfischer5974 7 місяців тому +3

      I didn't make it clear enough in the comment. I understand its trading, not training. He totally had me in the first half. @@hardcarryjerry​

    • @liammurray9274
      @liammurray9274 5 місяців тому +1

      I think the fact that we were pretty ready to believe the first half was true is quite a poor reflection on the situation itself.

  • @krapkillz
    @krapkillz 7 місяців тому

    You find people in-game who don't care because the real traders won't be in a game, they'll be trading

  • @ethanthekiddd2384
    @ethanthekiddd2384 7 місяців тому

    the first 4 min had me geeking bahahhaha i thought it was about TRADING to begin with.. then i heard TRAINING might be taken away i was like no wayyyy. then you pulled the most ultimate prank youtube has seen bc at this point mine as well get rid of training too hahahah

  • @evantyx
    @evantyx 8 місяців тому +37

    there's literally no shot that he thought training was being removed

    • @inx1819
      @inx1819 7 місяців тому +1

      😮😮

    • @Victicat
      @Victicat 7 місяців тому +5

      it was a skit

    • @PaytonPierce
      @PaytonPierce 7 місяців тому +3

      Gotta get the time over 10 min to make more money I think 🤪

  • @TazerGlen
    @TazerGlen 7 місяців тому +13

    "and even more importantly 'tens' of content creators" 😂

  • @TrayXCooper
    @TrayXCooper 7 місяців тому +1

    U deadass had me terrified at the beginning of this video that Rocket League removed training as well.....

  • @fizzle7421
    @fizzle7421 4 місяці тому +1

    Yeah, i used to absolutely love getting a new cool topper at the end of a match. I would get kinda excited when i saw other players with interesting things like that, too. The shop really did ruin that. I mean, i still utilize the self trading system and have gotten some cool stuff, but i can't feel as good about it because i could have just as easily bought any of it, so there's no flex. It sucks

  • @matthew1690
    @matthew1690 7 місяців тому +13

    I’m going to miss trading. When the game became f2p, I played mostly because of the trading. I liked being able to show off my items to other players. I quit playing mostly because of school but I still kept my eyes on the trading economy. I’ve only spent $5 on the game and I was able to get beta nugget and a bunch of other stuff by trading up. My dream item is alpha cap but ever since the white octane came to the item shop, prices dropped and will never recover. It’s sad that I’ll for sure never get alpha cap.

  • @capdo_roblox
    @capdo_roblox 8 місяців тому +5

    nah no way homie actually thinks it’s training and not trading

  • @danielvlach2634
    @danielvlach2634 7 місяців тому +1

    I love that they are experimenting with new hitboxes at the same time they are taking trading off. You won’t be able to trade items for the hitbox you want.

  • @oliver-nation4377
    @oliver-nation4377 7 місяців тому +2

    Stopping trading is insanely bad. You are killing an entire community an entire econemy.

  • @waiteon
    @waiteon 7 місяців тому +7

    This is easily the best sunless vid I've seen since rl stereotypes I'd love to meet this man and find out what goes on inside his head to come up with these absolute gems of content

    • @krusher181
      @krusher181 7 місяців тому

      Yeah this one had great pacing. He did go to film school so that’s one thing, he’s studied how to make good content.

  • @xxmrpilgrimxx3243
    @xxmrpilgrimxx3243 7 місяців тому +22

    the only thing i think they could do to make this change somewhat okay is if they cut all prices in half or if they added a way to find a item you want directly and buy it without hoping you get it as a random blueprint drop but regardless they are at a lose lose situation

    • @Shadow-hm3uq
      @Shadow-hm3uq 7 місяців тому

      No. There is nothing you can do to substitute the trade between players, except making every item available at any time for a fair price, and that will not happen. So... Go fuck yourself, Epic Games.

    • @nnconcerts99
      @nnconcerts99 7 місяців тому +3

      Cmon now this is epic games they wont do anything for the community

    • @xxmrpilgrimxx3243
      @xxmrpilgrimxx3243 7 місяців тому

      yeah you right@@nnconcerts99

    • @wolfspiderzx
      @wolfspiderzx 7 місяців тому +1

      They're gonna double the prices. Really milk it.

  • @jonrainbow123
    @jonrainbow123 7 місяців тому

    We've been watching this happen to every major online game over the last 5-10 years now. Its "just trading" now, eventually it'll be more features people enjoy. They'll kill RL1, then RL2 will be arena keys you can buy to play ranked matches and monetizing everything they can think of.

  • @petey33x
    @petey33x 7 місяців тому

    If they added a grand exchange system that would be cool. You can place an item in the G.E at a certain price or for certain trades and someone can fulfill that exactly or give a different offer to review.
    Or they can remove without a second word.

  • @KyoOnTheInternet
    @KyoOnTheInternet 8 місяців тому +3

    For the RL community, this is like going down by 7 touchdowns in the 4th quarter

  • @RocketMonke69420
    @RocketMonke69420 8 місяців тому +7

    I have this insane hope that the backlash is big enough that they do change but I know I am lying to myself.

    • @savagepanda6059
      @savagepanda6059 7 місяців тому +2

      I do too but im just lying to myself to cope TwT

  • @tison7208
    @tison7208 7 місяців тому

    my casual friends messaged me MAD about it. we would trade items between eachother to use. now we cant do that

  • @donaldready2118
    @donaldready2118 7 місяців тому

    I haven't seen an item that could be traded that i wanted to trade for in years. Then again, when youre over 1.2k wheels alone, theres not a ton left, and far less id even want.

  • @Positivitybro18
    @Positivitybro18 8 місяців тому +5

    So sad that this is happening

  • @Nicksolvo
    @Nicksolvo 7 місяців тому +5

    I have a feeling they are going to roll this back and implement something less severe than removing trading. There’s no way this amount of backlash will go unanswered

    • @krusher181
      @krusher181 7 місяців тому +1

      I hope you’re right but I’m way less convinced that they care about RL when they have fortnite

    • @jaredchampagne2752
      @jaredchampagne2752 6 місяців тому

      Giant corporations aren’t stupid, they know that the content creators are the smallest audience and the overwhelming vast majority of players don’t care and will just buy things from the item shop. Epic will deliberately kill half their player base to make an extra 5% in sales…they don’t care at all about perception. Gaming companies are the root of all evil.

    • @lamolevi9357
      @lamolevi9357 6 місяців тому +1

      This amount of backlash will go unanswered

    • @nickbalenzano8339
      @nickbalenzano8339 5 місяців тому

      @@lamolevi9357😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sebastianacosta-vazquez8166
    @sebastianacosta-vazquez8166 7 місяців тому +2

    We've all seen the news, and are quite annoyed with what's happened about trading. It seems they want to introduce cross game ownership which seems like the nft space a little and how they want to have the ability for nfts to jump to different games, however I think they have done this becuase people aren't buying a 2000 credit item when they can get it on the trade market. Personally I think they should keep trading but have it in game only, which would also such for the 3rd party conpanies however add a tax when trading items, kinda like the grand exchange in runscape. Thoughts?

  • @TheoF1
    @TheoF1 7 місяців тому

    You know its bad when even staff on the Epic support express they sadness about trading being shutdown in the mails lmao

  • @R.DeMora
    @R.DeMora 7 місяців тому +6

    I'm mostly new to this community, and I've loved the game for the past year, the only competitive game I've played long hours since Halo Reach. I've never traded anything with anyone in RL, so I don't think I'm losing out on much personally. It's ultimately all cosmetics, since the real value of the game is in its gameplay. Its complexity entirely dependent on your ability to play it, it truly feels like practicing a real sport!
    I don't see much need to change that up, but I will agree that one of its negative aspects is how little the devs seem to communicate tho.

    • @RoddSantiago
      @RoddSantiago 7 місяців тому

      The problem is some people spent huge amount of money on some cosmetics fooling themselves thinking it was an investment

    • @Heroo01
      @Heroo01 7 місяців тому

      @@RoddSantiago "fooling themselves" lmfao and how is that? They literally had monetary value, and some items even increased over time. Moronic tone deaf take
      Every content creator on the platform has a $5000 boost. Do you think they all "fooled themselves" into thinking it was worth that much, or do you think Epic is just taking this money away from them now for no reason?
      It's like arguing CSGO skins were a waste of money and just "fooled" the player base into thinking they had value. Like how dumb can you be?
      My inventory would probably be worth like $25 and I have never had any plans to sell, so this does not affect me monetarily in any way, and even I can see how stupid this take is.

    • @Heatwave9000
      @Heatwave9000 7 місяців тому

      ​@@RoddSantiagoWell then their as stupid as the crypto dorks that think their investments have value without being anything tangible...

    • @joshhealy176
      @joshhealy176 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree that the real value of the game is in its gameplay. However, this is clearly not what Epic believes, or they would release updates that would improve the gameplay experience. It's clearly only about the $$$$$

  • @Bipax
    @Bipax 8 місяців тому +4

    Aren't they also getting rid of trading 💀

    • @specterMV
      @specterMV 8 місяців тому +2

      Whole video is about trading. He didn't even read the announcement correctly

    • @Bipax
      @Bipax 8 місяців тому

      ​@@specterMVyh ik I'm stupid

  • @MrCOLBSTAH
    @MrCOLBSTAH 7 місяців тому +1

    If they do remove player trading they better absolutely stop giving me the same exact fucking items every time

  • @abootz5188
    @abootz5188 7 місяців тому

    You got me confused for a sec i went on a 10min research looking for where they said they are removing training

  • @mick2017
    @mick2017 7 місяців тому +3

    What is actually sad is a bunch of players don't understand the impact it will cause to the game, being selfish and saying "it doesn't matter for me" while a portion of the playerbase will leave the game killing rocket league even more. The whole purpose of trading is to get a cool item and use to play, now everyone will have to wait countless days for the item they want to appear in the shop and it will be overpriced.

    • @BrandonByers7
      @BrandonByers7 7 місяців тому

      And what about old rocket pass items? Are we just never gonna be able to get them again?

    • @steelxeno
      @steelxeno 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BrandonByers7no idea man, will probably be random BP drops in the future. Psyonix seemed keen to ride off into the sunset tbh before F2P hit.

  • @bawarl6584
    @bawarl6584 8 місяців тому +4

    Sunless I think you misread the tweet 😂

  • @SheetsM_Str
    @SheetsM_Str 7 місяців тому

    Dude, you had me thinking I misread the whole thing

  • @beazsh
    @beazsh 7 місяців тому +1

    I hope Epic knows that nobody is buying shit from them after this

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 8 місяців тому +20

    Epic Games has mastered the talent of disappointing people

    • @ssquishee6915
      @ssquishee6915 8 місяців тому +2

      Why are you everywhere

    • @Grenate
      @Grenate 8 місяців тому

      You have mastered the talent of being annoying by commenting EVERYWHERE, LIKE JUST STOP

  • @edwaffle6917
    @edwaffle6917 7 місяців тому +3

    I know the majority of this video was satire however the response of a lot of the players you talked to do not represent the entire player base.
    A lot of players around GC aren't as invested in items and trading because their focus is on improving. I myself can relate to the sentiment as when I used to play I primarily focused on competitive usually sitting around GC1 - GC2. Despite this I still loved the trading and items as it spawned a whole side of the community that was there to have fun. It was a break from grinding ranked and to indulge in human interaction between peers and friends to talk about the exciting nature of items.
    This is all gone after 5th Decemeber. And I know that a lot of people who said they didn't care about trading, or items, or crates will find themselves romanticising the days when these features shaped the community.

  • @ninjachicken568
    @ninjachicken568 15 днів тому

    This video just got recommended to me so I got scared they were removing training after they already removed trading

  • @biblepersonttv
    @biblepersonttv 7 місяців тому

    bro you actually made me open up rocket league because I genuinely they were taking away training as well

  • @ethancampbell245
    @ethancampbell245 7 місяців тому +16

    Sunless you gave me a heart attack bud
    I say this with the utmost respect hoping to convey trust and love for you and your content
    I watch tons of RL content but yours tends to be my favorite for information
    To have an unusually extended portion about them removing training after already hearing from multiple creators about them planning to remove trading was predominantly and likewise intensefyingbly frustrating
    It immediately made me believe it had happened after it continued for so long and all I wanted to do was uninstall the game and never look back without finishing the video
    It genuinely felt like it was the end of RL for me
    Maybe the intensity at which the bit felt real was magnifying how scared I’ve become for Epic Games and their decisions on the game
    I may never know
    But Sunless, from one of your forever fans and all time supporters that was mean lol
    Love you man
    Please don’t scare me

    • @madebyjam_
      @madebyjam_ 7 місяців тому +2

      bro i just had the same reaction lmao

    • @aryan_ab
      @aryan_ab 7 місяців тому +1

      same reaction TT

    • @Heroo01
      @Heroo01 7 місяців тому +4

      "intensefyingbly"
      bro what

    • @ethancampbell245
      @ethancampbell245 7 місяців тому +2

      My parents taught me poetry at a young age
      I’m a part time poet by trade now
      It directly translates into my speech patterns sometimes

    • @Heroo01
      @Heroo01 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ethancampbell245 lmfao

  • @CapTheNPC2
    @CapTheNPC2 7 місяців тому +5

    I'm really trying to stay positive about the future of this game, but man.. they're making more and more difficult as the years go by.

  • @scottpersing8951
    @scottpersing8951 7 місяців тому

    Dude I really thought training was gonna be gone omg lolol

  • @sh0ot3rmccgavin
    @sh0ot3rmccgavin 7 місяців тому

    the "10's of content creators" SENT ME

  • @blazify9559
    @blazify9559 7 місяців тому +5

    the problem isn’t that they’re removing trading (although for many this is detrimental). It’s the fact that they have absolutely no respect for the community. If you give them an inch they’ll take a mile.

    • @hectichive889
      @hectichive889 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! Slippery slope kind of deal. If they remove seemingly such a massive part of the community, which I didn’t even realize was that big to begin with, who’s to say they won’t ACTUALLY start removing things like training and remove the ball? 😂 Maybe we’ll get a permanent gridiron mode, sponsored by the NFL with big billboards on all sides of the map, etc

    • @blazify9559
      @blazify9559 7 місяців тому

      @@hectichive889 yeah we’ll have to watch a 15 second ad after each goal or something 😭

  • @User99871
    @User99871 7 місяців тому +4

    Although it’s very sad to see this happening. Sunless finds so many ways to make me literally laugh out loud 💀

  • @overkill666
    @overkill666 7 місяців тому

    its crazy cus im partners with RL trader as i do full time trading but them shutting it down for some many ppl like me or even the casuall player who just wants one kinda decal, wheel, etc. kinda kills that whole aspect.

  • @LastPlaceHero
    @LastPlaceHero 8 місяців тому +3

    Thing is Sunless, their statement is contradictory and I've seen noone else address this:
    "We’re making this change to align with Epic’s overall approach to game cosmetics and item shop policies, where items aren’t tradable, transferrable, or sellable."
    But you can "gift" stuff on fortnite thus it is, in fact, transferrable.
    Edit: They also reset all of the negative reactions on their discord announcement and kept the positive as is, so they are also censoring the communities reaction.

    • @Itz_Lumi
      @Itz_Lumi 7 місяців тому

      Well, that’s epic for you.
      “If we hide the initial backlash then there won’t be any backlash against us!”
      Funny thing is, they’re ignoring one of the must know things about the internet: everything is forever stored. No matter how hard you may try to rid of something it never truly goes away. So they’re basically confirming that they’re greedy little bastards. Thank you epic for this blatant and hilarious blunder.

  • @IHATESAFI
    @IHATESAFI 7 місяців тому +12

    stole noahsnoah's thumbnail lmao, be original bro

    • @itspersonal1030
      @itspersonal1030 7 місяців тому +2

      Bro I couldn’t find a single thumbnail on Noah’s channel even close to this one

    • @IHATESAFI
      @IHATESAFI 7 місяців тому

      @@itspersonal1030 he has changed it, before it was a default fortnite skin crying which was one of noahsnoah’s thumbnail’s that he just took and added the rocket logo to

  • @ElliotMitchellR
    @ElliotMitchellR 7 місяців тому

    "yea but what about everyone who isn't chronically online" LOL

  • @scurmzy1984
    @scurmzy1984 7 місяців тому +1

    Sunless fr scared me thinking training would be removed, I would literally quit RL.

  • @ArnieSiderfin-ns5pb
    @ArnieSiderfin-ns5pb 7 місяців тому

    Lol i knew about the trading but the fact he thought it was training made me so scared

  • @local9
    @local9 7 місяців тому +1

    EPIC have been losing recently, so not shocked they would do this to force people to spend more.

  • @corrupted_hex5042
    @corrupted_hex5042 7 місяців тому

    Ngl he had me in the 1st half...i legit thought training was gone

  • @user-cv2zh5nb3i
    @user-cv2zh5nb3i 7 місяців тому

    i heard about the trading but when u said training i got scared because i thot that was just something i didn't see in the announcment.

  • @ProtoVR12
    @ProtoVR12 7 місяців тому

    The thumbnail was the funniest damned thing

  • @itzmrmayhem
    @itzmrmayhem 7 місяців тому +1

    you had me in the first couple minutes

  • @sandres5291
    @sandres5291 5 місяців тому +1

    I stopped caring about items when they removed crates and keys. There’s no fun in just buying an item for its price. It’s pricey! But when gambling, you could get an expensive item for a low cost. If not, you can trade with someone for something you like. Or trade various normal items in-game for a better one and such. But now there’s no point. I would care for the Rocket Pass subscription if there were crates and keys, otherwise, not spending a dime on the game anymore.

  • @florentinBlueyes
    @florentinBlueyes 5 місяців тому

    I thought this as well when i saw the announcement but when my friend said trading I re-read it and was not mad anymore becuase i dont even know how to enable 2fa

  • @BigBoyDrac
    @BigBoyDrac 7 місяців тому +1

    As heartbreaking as this is, I kinda see where theyre coming from. We've all heard/used OPMarket religiously and the more we use OPMarket, the less Epic makes money. Still sucks that they're removing the p2p trading though

  • @JSpeedy306
    @JSpeedy306 7 місяців тому

    I for four minutes believed that they are also removing training. I would even be that shocked…

  • @simonking809
    @simonking809 7 місяців тому +1

    bro you had me scared for a second life without free play is Hell

  • @epicminecraftgamer753real
    @epicminecraftgamer753real 7 місяців тому +1

    rest in peace for that crying default dude from fortnite thumbnail

  • @carlkerkman7028
    @carlkerkman7028 3 місяці тому

    LOL - a misread, thanks for clearing that up!