Loved you both, great guest and great host. I liked the way you picked up on the word "boredom" as a disconnect between the subjective as experienced language and the clinical language (first person v. third person). I was bored, they were inattentive. I was focused on my own thoughts, but he was not paying attention in class. For me tuning out is part of my focus, for someone else it is my inattention. I was watching Autism videos and read Sasha Baron Cohen's , "The Pattern Seekers" and I was thinking about using the ASD Spectrum to anaylze communications the way some people use Meyers-Briggs to emphasize different thinking styles. Certain patterns and occupational choices seemed familiar and I checked certain boxes. But, then I watched an ADHD video and it was like a fire alarm going off (or maybe even an actual fire) as intense memories began racing back with emotional intensity. Boredom, procrastination and a complete disconnect between your long term plan and one's short term behavior. Looking back it is like a "chaos monkey" in your life.
My ADHD moment occurred in the mid 1970s, when I was 22 years old, and read an article in Scientific American on the treatment of ADHD, using stimulants. I was the stereotypical “bad kid” extremely intelligent, extremely hyper, and either bored to catatonia, or wiggling constantly. I was sever enough that they wanted to transfer me to the “special school”. They had a parent teacher conference to inform my parents, that I wasn’t working up to grade level. And my parents told them that they disagree and insisted that they give me some kind of standardized test to determine my actual skills level. Three weeks later they gave me a standardized test the gave all of the fifth graders to determine what the needs would be two years later. I had the highest scores of any student who had taken the exam, which they had been giving for a decade, and an IQ in the high 150s. But, since ADHD, wasn’t a condition yet, I wasn’t diagnosed. When ADHD became a condition I was in my late teens, and semi controlled. In my twenties when it was a condition, and they had first started prescribing stimulants, I was living in Las Vegas, and it was impossible to get diagnosed and a prescription. Every doctor who was ADHD aware, didn’t think adults could have it, and assumed I was just seeking stimulants. Which is a very real issue in Las Vegas. After a lifetime of struggles with college and work, I finally got diagnosed at 58, by a GP who had raised three ADHD sons. Meds would have helped a lot over the last 60 years. But life is what it is. p.s. A simple test for kindergartners is to have them put their hands behind their back and not move them. The. Talk to them while an assistant watches their fingers. The hyper ones will start wiggling their fingers, the observer signals when they are wiggling their fingers, and you ask them if their fingers are moving. They will not realize they are moving until asked, and the extreme ones won’t know they are when asked. But ADHD, wasn’t a thing yet. Meds weren’t available for a condition that wasn’t diagnosable. But my teacher had the experience to put me on black coffee, give me the work for the day, and let me go to the library and study whatever interested me as soon as I finished the days work. Which let me develop at my own rate, and kept me from disrupting her classroom.
You know, you're not alone. I'm almost at the point of starting protest movement over the lack of studies on women and older adults. I'm 63,sought a diagnosis since July. Been told I don't have it after filling out a simple questionnnaire. I surely misinterpreted the questions. So much to learn, and I know more about adhd than the health practioners I've seen so far. Thank God for channels like this
My intrusive thought is telling me i can't speak with my friend or a specific and my brain remind it of a sad moment where i was alone and socially awkward , that thought instantly makes me anxious and makes me even forget how to talk normally my speech is slurred , I don't feel like myself at all like I can't have a conversation I want to go home fast and don't want to encounter that person that my brain blocked me from talking with and want to meet him next day so i can talk normally ,but the same thought keep repeating everyday on loop ➰ I don't avoid speeding with the banned person but always feel more social awkward and my conversation skill drop to 0
Nice to stumble across new Videos on the #1 issue I Struggle with Daily! After watching a few,.It was 17 years in the 22nd since my GO referred me to a Board certif psychiatrist only to learn the anxiety and Depression I had been treaing for was a result of undiagnosed adhd🤦♀️ Needlees to say at my age. its caused many emotional Symptoms related to my adhd to esculate. So I often research ADD in hopes of learning tips/Tools to control my emotional dysfunction issues, not to mention all the others related to my adhd. I believe my anger issues relate to impulsive decisions I made, and although I had many "childhood signs" for being ignored and being diagnosed at such a late State in life. 🤦♀️🤦♀️..btw..I clicked!👍New Subscriber👏😉
Hi Susan I also had anxiety my whole life and depression in high school. Then panic attacks. I also deal with irritability and anger. How are you doing?
I didn't tell my child about his condition or meds when he was younger. However, the meds didn't work, but he figured out that he was different than the other children and then I told him. He was in third grade.
This podcast was so valuable! Dr Sasha's parents are so wholesome and supportive! That's precious! 💛
Rare.
Loved you both, great guest and great host. I liked the way you picked up on the word "boredom" as a disconnect between the subjective as experienced language and the clinical language (first person v. third person). I was bored, they were inattentive. I was focused on my own thoughts, but he was not paying attention in class. For me tuning out is part of my focus, for someone else it is my inattention. I was watching Autism videos and read Sasha Baron Cohen's , "The Pattern Seekers" and I was thinking about using the ASD Spectrum to anaylze communications the way some people use Meyers-Briggs to emphasize different thinking styles. Certain patterns and occupational choices seemed familiar and I checked certain boxes. But, then I watched an ADHD video and it was like a fire alarm going off (or maybe even an actual fire) as intense memories began racing back with emotional intensity. Boredom, procrastination and a complete disconnect between your long term plan and one's short term behavior. Looking back it is like a "chaos monkey" in your life.
My ADHD moment occurred in the mid 1970s, when I was 22 years old, and read an article in Scientific American on the treatment of ADHD, using stimulants.
I was the stereotypical “bad kid” extremely intelligent, extremely hyper, and either bored to catatonia, or wiggling constantly. I was sever enough that they wanted to transfer me to the “special school”.
They had a parent teacher conference to inform my parents, that I wasn’t working up to grade level. And my parents told them that they disagree and insisted that they give me some kind of standardized test to determine my actual skills level.
Three weeks later they gave me a standardized test the gave all of the fifth graders to determine what the needs would be two years later. I had the highest scores of any student who had taken the exam, which they had been giving for a decade, and an IQ in the high 150s.
But, since ADHD, wasn’t a condition yet, I wasn’t diagnosed. When ADHD became a condition I was in my late teens, and semi controlled. In my twenties when it was a condition, and they had first started prescribing stimulants, I was living in Las Vegas, and it was impossible to get diagnosed and a prescription. Every doctor who was ADHD aware, didn’t think adults could have it, and assumed I was just seeking stimulants. Which is a very real issue in Las Vegas.
After a lifetime of struggles with college and work, I finally got diagnosed at 58, by a GP who had raised three ADHD sons. Meds would have helped a lot over the last 60 years. But life is what it is.
p.s. A simple test for kindergartners is to have them put their hands behind their back and not move them. The. Talk to them while an assistant watches their fingers. The hyper ones will start wiggling their fingers, the observer signals when they are wiggling their fingers, and you ask them if their fingers are moving. They will not realize they are moving until asked, and the extreme ones won’t know they are when asked.
But ADHD, wasn’t a thing yet. Meds weren’t available for a condition that wasn’t diagnosable. But my teacher had the experience to put me on black coffee, give me the work for the day, and let me go to the library and study whatever interested me as soon as I finished the days work. Which let me develop at my own rate, and kept me from disrupting her classroom.
Huh? Your teacher gave you a coffee? What made her decide to do this? did it work
I didn’t learn till 70 on how ADHD affected me
You know, you're not alone. I'm almost at the point of starting protest movement over the lack of studies on women and older adults. I'm 63,sought a diagnosis since July. Been told I don't have it after filling out a simple questionnnaire. I surely misinterpreted the questions. So much to learn, and I know more about adhd than the health practioners I've seen so far. Thank God for channels like this
I was 75 when diagnosed , I felt sad at first, then relief to know what was going on with me.
I also had a lot of fun freaking out substitute teachers. Upsetting them was very fun to me at the time. glad I'm not alone.
My intrusive thought is telling me i can't speak with my friend or a specific and my brain remind it of a sad moment where i was alone and socially awkward , that thought instantly makes me anxious and makes me even forget how to talk normally my speech is slurred , I don't feel like myself at all like I can't have a conversation
I want to go home fast and don't want to encounter that person that my brain blocked me from talking with and want to meet him next day so i can talk normally ,but the same thought keep repeating everyday on loop ➰
I don't avoid speeding with the banned person but always feel more social awkward and my conversation skill drop to 0
Your not alone
Very interesting, thank you, I'm 67 and on the waiting list for an assessment 😊
Best of luck!
@@UnderstoodOrg Thank you
Is there something similar to this talk, but for adults with major depressive disorder and adhd?
Nice to stumble across new Videos on the #1 issue I Struggle with Daily! After watching a few,.It was 17 years in the 22nd since my GO referred me to a Board certif psychiatrist only to learn the anxiety and Depression I had been treaing for was a result of undiagnosed adhd🤦♀️
Needlees to say at my age. its caused many emotional Symptoms related to my adhd to esculate. So I often research ADD in hopes of learning tips/Tools to control my emotional dysfunction issues, not to mention all the others related to my adhd. I believe my anger issues relate to impulsive decisions I made, and although I had many "childhood signs" for being ignored and being diagnosed at such a late State in life. 🤦♀️🤦♀️..btw..I clicked!👍New Subscriber👏😉
Hi Susan I also had anxiety my whole life and depression in high school. Then panic attacks. I also deal with irritability and anger. How are you doing?
I didn't tell my child about his condition or meds when he was younger. However, the meds didn't work, but he figured out that he was different than the other children and then I told him. He was in third grade.
I’m wondering if Dr. Sasha is still taking ADHD medication.
i think she does if you follow her on other socials she talks about adhd
I wonder what people without privilege have done with their ADHD management to improve their quality of life
What is Sasha IG