Phantom Shogun's Grove 25 ULTIMATE F2P TEAM!!! | Raid: Shadow Legends
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2023
- I'm back with an update to Phantom Shogun's Grove with a proper speed tune and a 4 rare champ team in Raid: Shadow Legends :)
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Great video! I watched this and Biohacks but still had to do a lot of tuning. I couldn't figure out why it was failing then I finally realized how critical it is to keep the shade counter below 10 before every Shogun turn. Otherwise, he uses his hidden A4 skill and it throws off the speed tune because he misses the A1 TM boost. After the cleanse, the shade counter increased to 15. I had to make sure my two DPS champs had 4 or 5 star awakening. Those DPS awakenings were needed to get it back down below 10. For some reason I also had to bring Gnarlhorn's speed closer to Paragon. My final team: Gnarlhorn 3* 177; Paragon 3* 176; Mithrala 6* 284; Zinogyre 5* 212; Tormin 5* 212. Mithrala's Brimstone does most of the damage. About 4:30min but it gives me room to speed up when I get better awakenings on Elenaril and Coldheart. Thanks!
Underrated comment right here!! This essentially solves my problem. I need more blessings on Gnarlhorn ugh, 2* more and I can't summon them to save my life lol
Great video nub! This was actually a team I developed about 3 months ago. I'm glad to see it getting so much attention recently! I think it's super helpful for newer players trying to tackle phantom shogun. There are a few different variants on my channel (this is the better one IMO since the DPS run faster). I'm probably going to try and make one that doesn't use Gnarlhorn at all in the near future, but that will have a greater blessing requirement.
Ah nice! I got it off HH optimiser and was impressed by it :)
Would love to try this! Currently stuck at 16. Will this work for the lower levels?
Unfortunately not. My suggestion would be to play the fight on manually until you get to the high levels. Just bring in a lot of cleansers and champions which have abilities which don't deal damage you can save for when the boss puts out enfeeble.@@markmoyz2470
I tried this but failed. Not sure where I went wrong. Posted snips on nubs discord. Help known where I went wrong would be appreciated.
For some reasons the boss does his AOE attack even after I cleanse. Think it is the boss 3rd attack.
as much as i appreciate this kind of videos where you display a team for the max level of a dungeon, i would appreciate it even more, if you also make a video on how to get there ^^. doesn't help to have the speed tunes for lvl 25 when you are stuck at lvl 15 :D.
Yes, I do not see any content creators do this.
Awesome team ! It works for me with 2 Coldheart (100% success, full auto), speeds as follow : Gnarlhorn 180, Paragon 175, Reliquary 286, Coldheart 212 and 213. One needs a total of 12 awakenings for the team (for example two champs 3 star, and 3 champs 2 stars). Last thing : all champions should have somehow a minimum of 30K HP and 2K defense (or probably a little more), otherwise the shogun will target the "weak" ones instead of Gnarlhorn. And very last note : i needed to test different speeds on my Gnarlhorn to have him in sync with paragon. Hope it helps !! Good luck !!😋
Credits : Above info is a "mix" of Nub Raid's Video and also a video from Cortavius : ua-cam.com/video/Gk0KNIby7ss/v-deo.html Both very helpfull indeed !!!
Thank you for this. i was having an issue witht he boss attacking paragon and could not figure ouy why.
@ lemmer89 thank you for your post. I built a team with almost exact speeds you listed and have 100% successful runs. Having at least 12 stars of blessings overall was a key. I now have 16 total so runs never fail. takes 4 minutes but I can live with that. thanks again.
why is my paragon with 175 speed to fast to put uk on gnarl before shoguns 2nd turn?
@@shalevbskeldv8012 Im having exact same problem - paragon is 175 and the boss gets 2nd go on gnarlhorn and kills him before paragon gets to place unkillable
Love this. I shall be building this mainly because Gnarl and Tender are great in DT hard secret rooms so already use them plus I have an unloved lvl 60 Mr Cheese. This team and the Hydra comp are the next two things to build on my account. Love the content thank you. I'm a huge fan of using rares so also the Iron Twins triple PK team is just perfect
I tried this exact speed but for some reason, I couldn't get it to work. On one of the turn at about half way through the fight, gnuarhorn takes a turn and his unkillable goes away. The Shogun takes a turn and kills gnarhorn. Paragon seems lagging behind somehow. I'm not sure what's going on.
same with me
Great video, thank you for the accessible team comp! Sadly somehow don't have a gnarl horn and I need another one for my rhazin fusion question (which i've already fused but apparently have to do again)
Wow! Thank you so Much! I've been on and off for the last 6 months and i haven't even touched the Phantom Shogun yet. My laziness has been rewarded. I'm probably trying with Dreng or Ninja, though because elenaril is slow for poison explosion teams
finally got my team working...had to manual through 19-24 but using both paragon and gnarl uk moves allowed me with some rng to make it to 25 and now its full auto. thanks!
Thank you so much for this team! Built it, and found that you also need the Def stats to make it work. Now it works all the time:) //Rowas
Do you have the exact same speeds? I cant make this team work to save my life
Paragon at 175 wasn't able to place unkillable before the boss took a turn but 176 did. However, like many below, the boss goes after CH on his second attack.
This video helped me so much was struggling because a bunch of people were telling me to do 286 spd on the cleanser and they were took now it works
Hi Nub, thanks for the video...but after checking several times i have put the same settings of yourself, ie: speed, speed tune, etc and did not work...please help. thanks
Just built this. I got Mikage (5* soul) with Oboro (6* crushing rend) as DPS. Thanks, you're a treasure as always! :)
Very nice! You are smashing it
Great team. Saw a very similar one on ash’s channel recently. It’s been shown before that you really just need cleansers and awakening to do this fast but it’s still nice to see. Problem is that speed tunes never work getting up to the highest stages
Thanks for this Nub. Just made this team and it works like a charm
Great video, very helpful!
Perfect, struggled with this one, cheers!
Thanks, I've learned that Shogun target s the most crit dmg champion. Your strat works great!
o/ Hi there Nub. Long time watcher, first time commenter. This video has had the most positive impact on my account, since possibly unkillable cb teams. The 284 cleanser speed was the key I was missing for this dungeon. There were some tweeks I had to make, through trial and error, but now I have a 100% win rate team with a time of 1:10. And it all became possible because of the 284. Thanks and keep up the good work! FourO.
hey can you explain your team?
with the new ors i am trying to build a team to grind this boss. i have built the same 4 as yu, however i went with sicia as my 5th. however i have matched the speeds exact. no speed sets or any boosing set. but i am having an issue when the boss uses their a1 it targets my paragon instead of Gnarl. any idea as to why?
yo nub, i made this team yesterday and the tune seems to work but after tender does the first cleanse the boss will soon wipe the whole team except for gnarlhorn which still has unkillable on him, you know why this might happen?
Nub, great video, but i have a question, i can use another coldheart?
Hello, I created the team exactly as I saw with you, the problem is that at lvl 18 it doesn't work.
Do you have any advice on what to do?
I need to bookmark this video for takeovers. This team is amazing my dude.
Great overview, I'll prob just build 2 CHs specific for this rather than try to get a Lego with enough ACC for Brimstone.
Wanna try this. Got a 5 star on the rare cleanser, 4 star elenaril, 2 star gnarlhorn, 2 star on the unkillable rare, 3 on coldheart. Will this be enough if i get the speed etc? Also will this help me to progress from stage 18 and beyond?
I'm stuck on stage 17, these speeds seem to throw off the rotation around the second AOE After that all 4 charcters go again before I can get the next cleanse off. Is there a way to figure out needed speeds for the lower levels?
can you even climb uphill with these speeds and without blessings?
@0:46 For some reason after my CH goes, the boss attacks her and kills both DPS instead of attacking my Gnarlhorn, her Crit Damage is 25% lower than Gnarlhorn but he keeps attacking the CH on the bosses 2nd attack. Was something changed?
I just built this team and for some reason paragon doesn't take a turn before shogun's 2nd turn and gnarlhorn dies... what could be the issue?
Nubs woukd guurda work for the cleanser position? 3 turn 2 random* debuffs removed and she has an irresistible poison.
Hey Nubs, thanks for the help, but I followed your number comps and works on stage 23 but fails on 24. Also, it says shogun will priority to hit target under enfeeble but it hits my coldheart and she doesn't have enfeeble on her.
good evening friend, a question, I just fixed this setup, but it no longer works for me, do you think it is due to the changes to shogun in yesterday's update?
I couldn't get enough acc for brimstone but was able to use 2 coldhearts to finally clear the stage and farm consistently. Thank you.
Does the live areana area bonus mess up the speed tune?
Hello Nub! big fan of yours here haha.
I was wondering if the speeds are still the same after the changes made to Shogun in the previous patch.
I've been tweaking a variation of this team after watching Biohack's original videos on first the slower tune, then the faster tune. I run Mistrider Daithi and Gala Longbraids in the 2 DPS spots because my Gala is 6-star awakened and does good damage, and Daithi is awakened enough and gets Decrease Defence out for her. Mine takes around 2.5 minutes, so slower, but obviously no Max HP hits or poison/HP Burn. It's a really nice team concept though on the whole. I'd love to put Mithrala in place of Reliquary, she'd bring about 4 more advantages to the team, amazingly, but obviously I only have 1 Mithrala and I can't get the stats on her to make it work, certainly not Accuracy for poison damage.
Thank you!! This video helped me so much. Warning: not 100% win rate but close to it. 1 in 20 runs fails, seems a bit random.
Strangely enough my team only started to work when I boosted Paragon by 6 speed. What`s up with that?
Just wondering if you could do an update on the new speed requirements, I just copied this speed comp and it doesn't seem to work. The bad part is that I ruined my woking speed comp with was in the 3 minute range
Would a second coldheart be a replacement for elanaril? I dont have the leggo but i have a 6 star and 5 star awakening coldheart.
It would work, elenaril is mainly there for brimstone
Thanks for the video. I wanted to ask you, if I don't have Elenaril, what hero can I replace her with, why do I have to take into account the hero that replaces her? Thx!
You could use a 2nd coldheart or drexthar does a very good job, especially if u have at least 1* awakening 9n him
This kind of video we need !! im F2p 3 year gametime :D i have six star renegade but cant build team with 100% sucess.
Hey Nubs, great vid with an actual accessible team. Any chance you have the speed stats to run this from 21 to 24 please?? I'm assuming the speeds for 25 will be too fast for 21-24.
ALot of people are asking about the lower levels. Its less about speed and more about shifting champs to affinity friendly each level...its a grind to get to 25 but alot easier with recent nerf to shogun.
So I’ve made this team, exact speed stats, and gnarlhorn has more slightly more HP and def as the one in the video, yet I’ve just done 5 runs and on 4 of them, my gnarlhorn died on the first hit?
Any ideas? My gnarlhorn has the most crit damage so is being targeted by the boss, but just doesn’t survive.
Thanks Nub, it took a while, but I finally done it. only difference is, Paragon needed 176 speed. otherwise now it is 100%
Reaction accessories good on Gnarlhorn
For whatever reason, this exact team with mithrala in place of reliquary just didn't not work at these speeds. i had to bring gnarl down to 181 or else it just didn't seem to hold. he would take his turn early a few rounds in and lose the unkillable just before the boss took his turn.
Speed and Perception sets (in addition to Lore of Steel) will also mess with your Paragon, Gnarl Horn and Reliquary Tender tunes. I had to bump my Paragon and Reliquary Tender up +1 for the tune to work right as the display speed is rounded up to a whole number.
can I subtitue Paragon?
How do i get up to 25? or is it like the Tower team in Iron twins where the Speeds work on all of them?
I got to stage 25 my manually doing them with this same team....I just cant get it to work on auto
Good video keep it up
Hey nubs! awesome video. it feels like it should work for me but my paragon goes out of sync after 2 unkillables. The boss somehow goes in between my gnarlhorn & paragon even though they are at 180 & 175 speed respectively (* they both are 0 masteries ). any idea whats messing up the turn metter? thanks for your time
Got the same problem, any solutions out there?
@@rahmaron7447 I fixed it by reducing gnarhorn speed to 178 & paragon 175
now it works perfect
@@bombaclot5109 Didn't work for me, sorry. Gnarls gets 2 hits every time with this low speeds. He dies before Paragon can do anything....
@@rahmaron7447 It works stage 25 dude I ran 100 run of it. it just means your gnarlhorn is not tanky enough . give him more stats u will see
@@bombaclot5109 My Gnarl has 60k HP and 3k+ def. The second hit arrives with 54k HP. So... Gnarl need 90k HP and more to do this?
Pythion instead of Relique would work too, I think, right?
Did the same team. Second turn boss change target to coldhart.. got no clue why..
Hi! Can you help me please? I built this team, but i have a little problem. After the boss's 12th turn the unkillable allways fall off from gnarlhorn and the boss kill him by the 13th attack :/ I trired a lot of speed combination but it never works. My team: Gnarlhorn: 179 speed (tried 180-181-182-183-184, no masteries, no speed gear, turn off every skill), Paragon: 176 speed (tried 175 too, no masteries, prio A2), ReliquaryT: 285 speed (tried 284-286, no masteries, starts A1, after prio A2) and one Coldheart and a Ninja (but I think their speed doesn't matter that much). Oh, and there are 17 red stars in the team. So what do you think? What's wrong?
I got the same problem. Hopefully someone can help
I did your speeds, but iam getting hit on my coldherat wile trying to get hirer up
Why does sometimes he change to attack my coldheart? I use the same spd as you do but my Gnarlhorn is only 1 star awaked so my Coldheart on 5, Is this a problem?!? Please help
I think it's based on crit damage.
Can you show how to go up stage 25? I am guessing same speed tune is not working at lower stages.
It doesnt
Mine is failing. I have all the speeds on the dot. 😔 I watched and Paragon goes AFTER Shogun goes the 2nd time and kills Gnarlhorn. I am totally confused how Paragon can go that slow and work?
Bonjour, je viens vous demander car j ai enormement de defaites, avec le meme composition, les memes heros, les memes vitesses . cela est il possible???
Why is my gnarlhorn die on the first hit of shogun when his stat are pretty much the same
So will this work on stages up to 25 as well? Or is different speeds for each level? I’m not rebuilding champs just to find out I have to rebuild them again to clear the lower levels
This doesnt work for floors lower then 25. Just made that mistake and spent over 20 million silver to find out that it doesnt work unless you are on floor 25.
If you are also here because your speed tunes were all of a sudden out of wack, I was able to fixed it by changing my Gnarl to 181 and my Paragon to 177 (I believe paragon can go as low as 174).
But it seems like plarium mustve done a change to Phantom Shogun as 184 Gnarlhorn just every so slightly goes before the shogun at around 50 seconds.
Hi! Dosent working for me even on 181 and 177. Gnarl run out of unkill very fast and die 🤷
was running the same team except 2 coldhearts as my dps...
I saw a very similar video from ash yesterday
How many awakening levels do you think are required in total?
He had 3 on Coldheart
0 on Paragon
4 on Reliquary Tender
6 on Gnarlhorn
and 6 on the second dps (Warmaiden)
19 in total
you have 18 on our team
is 18 the minimum or could it work with less?
the speedrange he found
1 DPS Coldheart 205-218
Paragon 176-178
Gnarlhorn 180-188
Reliquary Tender 186-296
2 DPS 205-218
I think it could work with less but I couldn't tell you how much... Just by looking at my run it seems quite easy to keep the boss counter down
hi Nub Raids, can you help me with this team? ive copied the exact speed and stats (gnarl 2 stars 179 / para 3 stars 175 / reliquary 3 stars 284, for the hitters i use towering titan 5 stars and pain keepers 5 stars. it worked 100 percent, no failure at all. One day i finally got CH and im really happy about the champ, i leveled up CH all the way to 60, had 4 stars awakening atm (phantom touch). i swapped PK to CH thinking that CH could do better damage resulting in faster run, but whenever i change PK to CH, the rotation goes off. after the second cleansing from reliquary and then gnarl unkillable goes off, paragon couldnt go fast enough to put the unkillable buff, whereas if i put back PK from CH, everything goes back to normal. im very frustrated and cannot find the solution until now. can you help me with this issue?
Does this team still work? If i try your speeds, my Gnarl takes 2 hits bevor Paragon can do anything?
I got it to work today
@@appleplays753 What are your speeds if you don't mind. I'm having the same issue with Paragon at 175. I don't want to change it because he's in toxic.
how to reach stage 25, are these speed tunes enough to clear all stages??
I got to stage 25 my manually doing them with this same team....I just cant get it to work on auto
cant get this to work, my non dps champs are on the exact speed without masteries or spd/tm changing blessings and gnarl loses uk after a couple of turns
I got the exact same problem. Hopefully someone can answer this.
i was lucky to pull elanaril in a primal shard 🤣
Built Riho with 284 speed & shes too fast? Used deadwood calculator & it confirms 284.
a very Important question, and please I would love if I could get an answer, Does this team also allow us to get to 25? for now finishing lower levels is my problem. Thank you for a great video
Update: Again, thank you very much nub, I am already up to lvl 9 with full auto, but unfortunately cant go further because I lack the awakening levels, so once I get those, I am sure I can get to 25.
This does not work this way for me. After Reliquary cleanse, the boss uses AOE and wipes like 4 of my champs.
I've finally make this comp works. The only difference is I pair my dps CH with pedyma. Overall run within 6min.
has anyone else actually made this team? I can't get those speeds to work at all
Can this comp be used in stages 21-24 getting up to 25?
Yes but you have to manual it and maybe drop one of the DPS and bring in a 2nd cleanser if you don't have high enough awakenings. For me I had to use Reliquary and Mithralla for stages 21-24.
Speeds have to be exact or is there a range ?
I showed the range for each role. ua-cam.com/video/Gk0KNIby7ss/v-deo.html
problem for me is im stuck on stage 16 and this team is failing.
It is funny how CC show 25 lvl. But how to climb there ?
undead f2p tournament video coming ?
why build a high crit damage on gnarlhorn if his a1 cannot crit?
For shogun to target him.
ive built this team, doesnt work. not sure whats thew issue. are masteries essential?
what other cleasers as my tender is only 1 star
AOE remove debuffer i mean like Tender
Can these speeds vary slightly?
You would have to use a speed tune calculator to figure out swapping speeds. I would go with these exact ones
I have these exact speeds with no masteries affecting tm and it does not work. Speed tunes are so frustrating!
I swear plarium mustve changed something because I just had this team working last week but I went to go farm it today and paragon is now so much slower than gnarlhorn and the tunes are messed up... Speeds/masteries haven't changed 1 bit and I went from over 100 runs with 100% success to 10 runs 0% success
@@JaredYoutub ouch
Paragons speed is too slow on this guide, i had to up it by one for it to work, having thought about it i suspect its to do with true speed, as mine had 1x perception set on
Shit this is brilliant
I can make this work on 23, but on 24 it seems like paragon is to slow
now to just get to that stage
followed this word for word letter for letter and somehow it doesn't work for me
oh well lmao
problem with this is it does not tell you how to get to 24/25 or whatever the top is , im stuck at 14 and the team does not work there not even manually. PS DID YOU FORGET TO MENTION GNARLHORN HAS TO HAVE THE HIGHEST CRITICAL DAMAGE ?????
I don’t think this comp is 100% as weird as it sounds. If you don’t kill the boss quick enough, the speed tune falls apart. Does anyone have something that won’t fall apart? My champs just can’t do it quick enough
does this team work from stage 15 to stage 25?
It would, but not at the same speed, what i did for these level is i do them manually, use both gnarlhorn and paragon unkillable, use coldheart a2 if shes under unfeeble
Ok, so if I play manually, it could work with this speeds too, thx a lot@@mathieuswales575
Good day, could you try to show a tune with Ninja? I'm having trouble since his A1 boost his turn meter.
I got 2x coldhearts to get it done, and my cleanser was a little too fast.
This team works only for 25 lvl ? , because I made same team and doesn’t work…😢 for 17 lvl …
It works for other levels but you have to play on manual and some are a bit tricky
Use the same team but replace second dps with a second cleanser.
Updated by Plarium - nerfed
Anyone else having trouble getting past stage 17?
Another great Video from you👍
The Problem is, nobody plays this stupid dungeon with crap rewards.