Siege - There's WAY MORE to Attacking THAN WE THOUGHT!! | Raid: Shadow Legends
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
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Today I'm doing my all my attacks and rebattles for the first every Siege in Raid: Shadow Legends!
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Our matchup was very badly skewed to us. We had the stronghold down in a few hours and their whole map cleared by mid day. By the time some others logged in later in the day, they had no attacks to do and the other team is only 2-3 towers in on our defense. We have 4 players that will get no rewards because they have no valid attacks and won't get a defense win. This is a huge design fail; we win and stomp the other team but part of our clan doesn't get the chest.
I think if you re-attack the Mana shrine, that should count as an attack... since everyone has 1 chance to attack the Mana shrine after clearing it
Not surprising. Back in the day clan boss didnt have infinite health so not everyone could get cb chests every day if your clan wanted to be brainless drones.
My clan get massacred bad😔😢
Can you update us on the MANA shrine hits to see if they activate rewards?
@@speachless88 mana shrine rebattle wins do NOT count as a win, so you can't claim rewards even after winning a rebattle
This needs a spectate battles option. Would love to see them hitting/team hitting them or just a replay even
I'd like that but I think they'd see it as too much of a drain on resources for next to no benefit. I do want to see champion stats and gear used though. It would help for building future defenses.
We just watch in discord but yes there should be one in game
I lost my attacks in seconds so I don't think it would make great viewing hahah
It would make the game more laggy so nah im good
@@chuck569469 idk about u and what games ur playing but most games that have a similar system have replays and they don’t lag
7:20 I was at work when the siege went live, and my clan wiped the entirety of our opponents map about 7 hours before i got home, so I just now get shit all rewards, which just feels lovely, let me tell you
I saw someone saying anyone can attack the mana shrine. So everyone can get a win there
I've read that the rebattles don't count for attacks, but time will tell
If you press on the chest in the battle report it tells you that you do not get the chest for mana shrines rebattles. Its terrible oversight by plarium. We have people in our clan in the same situation.
@@sgttoxiiczzSounds like starting cycle we need to slow deliver attacks for fairness. That's crap
@@speachless88 yeah we've done exactly that.
It felt like a ton of build-up, then it was over in a couple of minutes.
Don't like the mode. Long wait, short action. Needs lot of planning. And the worst: If you're in a clan that's not fully committed, you'll fall off quickly and they will participate even less, leading to the mode getting forgotten. Contribution should be _rewarded_ or people will loose interest in no time.
Jesus, so negative..
Yeah, exactly. Our entire clan was on discord actively trying to participate. However the group of 10 weaker players weren't able to win any attacks and lost their defences. Not very excited about doing this again, because I won't be getting anything even though I invested time into actively participating. I don't see myself being very invested in this when work starts again, because there's zero return.
@@pglanville I'm a positive guy but that's the first time impression. And seeing how my clan is handling the mode, it's hard to stay positive.
find a better clan it’s not just going to be given to you
Day 1 fights r fun, rebattlea suk
13:36 i think the loss was caused by the lack of strip, with sufficient speed and probably reflex, emic, and roschard can keep their block damage and unkillable forever. So, since it's a defence team, if the offence can't beat it in the turn count, they automatically lose. So i guess stall teams with restrictions on things that can counter them work really well for blocking enemy advancement.
But playrium really needs to do a replay system so your clan mates can properly learn from your mistake.
Great video! Appreciate you sharing how you went through the attack.
Wasn't expecting the rebattles to use your 2 uses for each champ but there's another problem there too, our opponent didnt put any defenses in 1 of their mana shrines and we.we cant hit for the bonus mana cause there's no defense to attack
Really interesting video - starting to appreciate your thought processes
Can a clan avoid defeat if the enemy runs out of attack scrolls before taking the stronghold?
There wasn't much in the way of tactics for my guild, our opponents only had 11 active players so we had mostly empty nodes, in fact some players will not get a victory chest because there was nothing left for them to attack and the other guild hasn't attacked much at all, in fact i'm not sure it's even possible for them to get too and beat the stonghold.
I like the requirement for lots of teams if you're winning. It's one of the few mechanisms that gives relatively more powerful players in a clan a real edge - otherwise, it's often better to be in a more powerful clan than your own level. Plus, it gives an excuse to build out arena teams you wouldn't normally use.
Btw - I've seen pretty compelling evidence that the arena auras DO work from some of our battles.
The matchmaking was really rough for us. We took it relatively serious but had no chance because of the matchup. But this may just be a startup issue and not a permanent one for the mode.
Was pretty neutral about it until the battle phase started. Officially the mode I care for the least and from a player sitting in bronze 4 in tag arena that’s saying a lot…
First time for me Nekmo thaar has made an arena appearance but when you need a speed lead you need a speed lead haha!! My rebattle teams were definitely different but they got the job done lol
I love siege, low time investment and very interesting concept to test plat level defences.
The fact that Plarium got
"Hydra Clash sucks cause only the best get rewards and we hate it cause we try and get *nothing*"
as a feedback and went
"ok you know what? fuck you, you need a win in siege"
They care guys. They do. I promise *huffs copium*
So you want people to not try to win? There needs to be a reason for people to push, and people still get gear if they lose.
You get rewards but not the chest if you don't win
@@alexdavis-mann8513 You do not get reward at all if you dont win at least one defense/offense battle.
And with 90 attackscrolls and 60 defense slots thats bound to happen.
@@SSuser-go7jm They do not and thats my point. A person who tries their hardest but can for whatever reason not score a defense/offense win does not get shit. You can literally use all your scrolls and not get anything.
@@GamePandaXXL Sorry, I misunderstood your complaint as the clan as a whole needing to win. I completely agree the 1 win per player is bullshit. If anyone does a fight or Mana Shrine rebattle they should get to claim the rewards.
Worse than hydra. There you get a chest for top 3 in a 5 team battle. Even if you get 4th or 5th, you get personal chests.
I was in Discord actively trying to be of help to my clan. Called out the speeds of the opponents I lost my attacks to. My defenced went down to much stronger players. Active participation and zero rewards...
I expected rewards if you used an attack and "participated". A lot of players will lose interest in this mode fast.
It's just plain stupid
I think it needs time. My opinion is that plarium built it for how it's supposed to work after a decent amount of sieges. But they could not figure out how to fast forward that progress.
You can use the same champ on attacks or retries more than once. You can use a champ 2x and then that’s it. So it is a little forgiving in that regard.
31:00 yeah that's me right there . I still can't imagine we got matched up against you. It's so unfair, you guys had the double of our player power and I had to use epics to attack some your annoying defenses 😂. Anyway it's not your fault. Also my shuzen giving turn to arbiter instead of leorus was so funny 🤣. At least now I know what's wrong in my defense. Ggs
When the regear prompt pops up I always just exit out of it rather than hitting either of the two promted answers. The prompt is just so poorly worded I never know what answer is actually safe other than just exiting the prompt
I had to work all day. Got home and went to do my battles. The whole area was wiped out. I end up with a big fat zero!🥵
They're smashing their heads against Officer Sheriff!! I guess he's soon to be promoted to Officer Mayor!
I'm overall fairly neutral about this update. I like that it's capped at 3 battles/3 rematches per Siege so it's not too time intensive (depending how much you strategize), and the strategy aspect of the matchups are intriguing and it'll be interesting to see how the florians and stronghold upgrades work over time.
On the other hand the matchmaking feature is horrible in it's current state and needs to be tweaked (perhaps it'll naturally get better after a few sieges once matchup data is collected). It seems like most people had very lopsided matches this week. My clan grabbed the short straw so we had to face a lvl 19 clan while we are lvl 15 and they have over double our total power. I know power is a imperfect measure but I mean double is pretty telling that we didn't get an appropriate matchup. I also hate how participation is calculated from a US player perspective. Unless they rotate the start times every other Siege, the non-European player base will always have a disadvantage for getting their minimum activity threshold and could miss out on rewards simply cause they live in the wrong time zone.
All I want is the champion, gating it behind wins sucks. We’re blocked from taking the fortress by 1 single kraken and even then it would just be a tie.
The matchmaking I'm sure will solve itself over time even if plarium does little to solve it. But I do hope they review rewards so that individuals don't have to rely on 29 strangers to get the better prizes without waiting a year.
@@BSCxXASHXxIf you're treating your clanmates as "strangers" that's a "you" issue.
Won some re battles and they don’t count torwards atk victories…
Looked I checked out my siege and the clan that were facing are so over powered. It's definitely not fair and all krakend out!!! I knew this content in-game would be stupid
This mode is problematic. From an executive pov, I don't have the desire or the time to put into planning after already wasting 3+ hours/week on my hydra keys (not to mention everything else the game wants me to do). This is a mobile phone game, not a solid MMO. The amount of time it's asking if you want to do well at it is, honestly, a bit absurd.
Then, a lot of people just don't like PvP... some just intrinsically pull away from competition/content they have a good chance of loosing: others just don't like PvP in P2W games (for reasons that are, honestly, obvious and pretty solid).
In every clan that isn't packed with endgame players (most in the game), I'm sure that those who can't get wins yet will start to just ignore this pretty fast. Tons of people already just ignore live.
It's also kind of funny, like JGIGS mentioned in a video, that the "epic new game mode" they took years to come up with is basically just 4v4 arena.... again, but with a few new bells and whistles. ~.~
I am pretty sure the starting 2 positions will RANDOMLY CHANGE each SIEGE to keep gatekeeping minimized.
1:06:45 that would be something for Fortus with fear from timit
Let me check with my clan 😂😂😂😂😂. Who the hell sits around waiting on orders in a game
Like CB when I started….as a US player I’d wake up and CB was dead and I couldn’t hit it.
Where is your video about the ninja 6* perfect soul from today???
I wasn't able to win any of my 3 attacks. My defences got rolled as well. We were against a clan with min. 10m power. I'm 3m power. I won't be getting any rewards. A little disappointing, because we were in discord with the entire clan discussing what to do. Decided to let the weaker players have a shot at the posts first, but we couldn't do anything.
Matchmaking is an issue. They should take in account both clan global power and cvc result. We will navigate between easy win and hard lost for a couple of month up until the Tier represent the real power of clan, and by them most player will just abandon this playmode.
Look at Numbraid video, in is first attack he use one very good champion with almost filler and is team was nearly twice as strong as the opponent. So yeah Whale and Kraken are going to have fun, but look at the opponent perspective, nobody from this clan was able to progress becase they got match against a full kraken clan. So much fun for them...
It's infuriating to see that just matching clan power would have make it more fair.
Now the losing team will have to spend a tone of ressources rebuilding their forteress while the wining team will just get stronger and stronger...
It's initial CB all over again as far as participation. Have to rush to get in your hits before it's over...if you don't get any attacks in you don't get any rewards.
Aren't you supposed to learn from your mistakes? Am I missing something?
20:30 should turn that into a short and send a link to plarium
Unfortunately, my clan was matched against a dirty PTW clan that is 90m player power higher than us. I don't hate the mode. However, it's the same as LA when it first came out, and Palarium has no way to separate the dirty spenders from us FTP clans.
This mode desperately needs a “spectate” option OR more importantly, a “REPLAY” option so you can see how your defense got beat.
Let me grab a coffee. It's gonna be a long one 😂
We managed to ugrade our stronghold this siege, think we got 2 extra defenses. Then we just discover that cause we did this our opponent got 30 extra attack scrolls. So whatever you do do not upgrade the stronghold
12:15 Nope.....can use the same champs multiple times.
I was surprised by that for sure!!!
1:14:20 thats another one for Magnarr :)
Our clan 150m power, enemy clan 300m power.. yeah good game Plarium really well matched up. Was a dredful launch, boring, lackluster.. what do you want some money plarium? This game drives me nuts..
I laughed when you chose to not use the free regear and then used it anyway by accident. I stopped claiming those last month because of that bad ui
Insane, I lm glad I'm not the only thinking Holy fuk rebates need 100s of champs
Siege the instant snooze button
1:13:08 best fight of the video :)
So that's why raid said to put the weakest team first because to bait champs and attacks!😅
Only 3 attacks for 2 weeks of planning is terrible, how is that fun?
Such a terrible mode. Was at the mercy of my own clan just asking them to do some attacks lol.
The matchmaking on this stupid mode is sooo FUCKEd. Our clan is like #300 and we are going against a top100 clan.
Pretty sure its exactly as it seems
You actually can use 1 champ twice
Bored with this mode already, even Nubs enthusiasm and energy isn’t helping 😢
He's doing his best to hype it up but you just can't put a ribbon on a box of shit and call it a present
ua-cam.com/video/h3lzJ2gHLXg/v-deo.htmlsi=LjxWmOrMXHEHePM1&t=1084 How was Samirono able to attack 12 times?!
They were rebattles against mana shrines.. you can rebattles every team in mana shrines IF you have enough champs.
Remember, some of these clan's are all member krakens, so they'll have 100 champs all booked, mastered, +4, 6 star, etc, etc
@@sangesf Yeah, I noticed that after I did the same thing. It's odd that it doesn't just show the person/team that took it out the first time. I can't attack any that haven't already been beat since I have no attack scrolls left.
You OBVIOUSLY got matched with a much lower powered clan. so you obviously are gonna win
I'm glad it's over. I hated it.
Yeah, I'm not doing that. Not a chance.
great new game mode
sooo from what im getting is unless your a whale with 50+ built champs theres no point in trying.
20:48 gold
How on earth can you strtegieze that much when you are clearly OUTCLASSING your poor opponents?
PLARIUM, Please do something with that annoying gear removal pop up. FFS. ---Signed, Literally Everybody
This mode is a massive disappointment, the matchmaking is a complete disaster and this video is a perfect example of it. Nub doesn't seem to notice that the clan he was matched against has 50% of his Clans power, 50% of it's ranking points and 60% of it's recent activity. Though, the video is 90 min long so maybe I missed it, but I don't think so. Bummer, he's usually not so out of touch!
It’s literally the first one. Everyone is on the same level. It’s definitely not a massive disappointment. Stop whining.
@@granitegreg7883 My dude, if you read the discussion leading up to the first one, you know that Plarium broke people out into six brackets according to their criteria. It’s obvious that their criteria is insanely flawed.
@@HT-jj5sx Their criteria was the same as cvc, as they likely want most players in T6 so they don't complain about rewards and new clans are able to climb. People would have been equally mad if lategame clans ended up in something like T3.
@@SSuser-go7jm I'm sorry, but you're just wrong here. CvC criteria is based on the number of points over the last eight weeks, also, 90% of clans are placed in T1 for CvC. These numbers have come directly from Plarium. The issue with the match-making is that they based it on the last four CvC's, which have almost nothing to do with a clans ability to compete in a PvP mode. Power, Ranking points, activity and PvP participation are much better markers to indicate a clan's ability to compete in this siege. They just dropped the ball here.
We (my clan) are having a blast, and I am delighted to make use of more of my roster on the rebattles for shrines. I do keep a ton of champs geared, and my account is old, so i have a bunch at 60.
I just feel like they made it way too complicated…
shit game mode
my mother builds better magnars than that :P
ggs
Not gonna lie it was a lot of fun talking with my clan and watching them take down the enemies!
As a player with 5 years in the game I don't give a damn about this content, game already feels like a full time job and I frequently miss on some things and now they added another content that takes long prep and planning every step with members and content itself isn't interesting at all, no thank you...
Tbh yikes 😬 I knew it was gonna be bad but it’s way way worse
This is a trap mode. Only benefit whale clan. For f2p clan it tempt to say spend if ya want to win😒
Siege is real interesting imo. Once u upgrade your towers it opens up more team slots. This content just shows me that most players just hit auto and dont know how to play the game.
It's stupid
People need to change their mindset with this. This mode cost ZERO resources and is simply meant to be filler between CVC. If you enjoy PVP this is fun, if you don’t then you don’t have to engage
This mode is f#&$%@& trash