HOI4: What's The Point of The Spanish Commune?
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2022
- Spain today will be taken over by the POUM, during the fires of the Spanish Civil War the Nationalists will be dealt with thusly. However the unity in the Republican camp will not last and out of the shadows the POUM will emerge to take control of Spain.
Along the way will we be explored the Spanish Commune to the best of our ability, to see what's good about it, what's not and maybe see if there is a reason to play as this obscure anti-stalinist commune.
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I'm in Belgium for the weekend, so I made sure to get you another one of those Hoi4 videos you like, there's plently of food in the fridge and there's £20 on the counter if you want pizza or something like that.
The What's the Point series is a fun for me and having one in Spain just adds to that. Between Republican and Nationalists they're probably my most played nation in HOI4.
a hoi4 youtuber in belgium? suspicious...
The strangest thing is that the POUM victory event text references them being anti Trotskyists despite being a Trot being irl
They weren’t Trotskyist the POUM were a revolutionary Marxist party that was unaffiliated to the 3rd or 4th international. They rejected as a party Trotskyism, but also condemned Stalinism and the Soviet Union. The PCE accused them of being Trotskyist because they were unaffiliated to the 3rd international.
@@charliehoran3680 To add a bit more context the POUM was made through the merger of a Trotskyist (left opposition) party and a Bukharinist (right opposition) party contrary to Trotsky's wishes, after which Trotsky heavily criticized the POUM, prompting them to completely break with him. They definitely had partially Trotskyist origins but by the Spanish Civil War they were definitely anti-Trotskyist.
No lmao they werent
@@sparkz9502 this is the correct answer
@@MoishaAPDThis is the reason why I can’t talk about Communism to any, I keep getting curveballs here
It's a real pain with the portraits. A while ago I palyed Mexico a lot, a very enjoyable nation to play, if you ask me, and I went down various alternate history paths. At first the county leaders all had their custom portraits, e.g. Salvador Abascal. But for some reason at some point none of the custom portraits were available anymore. The only ones still working were Lazaro Cardenas for the d/c/n, Lev Trotzky for c and Plutarco Calles for the secular f.
I played Mexico recently and most of the portraits were working for me. Salvador Abascal's portrait is broken due to a case-sensitivity issue, and Luis Maria Martinez is never actually recruited (!) but I believe all the others have the correct portraits
Same here! Mexico is so uncomfortable to play since all generals and leaders had unique portraits, but now it’s so wierd
No Step back's inclusion of the character system broke a lot of portraits. Mexico sadly has a big victim of this. Another case that comes to mind is Charles Lindburg's portrait showing his advisor stats but has a generic portrait as leader.
Carmel Rosa Baserba's High Command portrait is also a generic portrait, not actually him. The reason none of the POUM generals have portraits is because they were all added after the fact in response to feedback that the POUM didn't have enough officers - only Janos Galicz and [potentially] Mate Zalka. So there used to be even less point to this path than there is now!
The only good thing about the Spanish commune is that you can form iberia and have wargoals against fascist nations and USSR. You cant get rid of the recovering from the civil war, you just reduce its efects 2 times, which îs still better compared to the republicans, whom have to become USSR's puppet to continue down their focus tree. And compared to the anarchists, you have nothing that can delay the govermental crackdown
I don't think you need to even get puppet by USSR. Just dont do expand soviet aid focus
@@techgeforcethen stalinist path is even more usseless
dude that civil war was clean af havent seen that
They don't call me the Spanish Civil War King for nothing.
The field marshal doesn't steal the experience from the general, he just gets 25% of the general XP in paralel, not from him. You separated those guys out for nothing and ended up making their stats shittier in the process. You can look this thing up online or just run a test in the amount of time a regular general gets infantry leader and then compare that with him under a field marshal getting infantry leader, you will see it takes the exact same amount of days.
Well now I have completely contradictory information from my comments on trait gain. I think I’ll have to investigate this myself.
@@BubblesZest sounds like a video material to me. Although there already is one by Dankus on trait farming that covers this
The point is being Bukharin's little buddy, duh)
Heh, i cut out another idea I had which was giving the right opposition exile and eventually launching a civil war with Spanish support.
The difference was you had to take their land in a peace deal so it wouldn’t be cheap land for Bukharin if Germany invaded, I explained it poorly and it took up several minutes so it was dropped.
I feel its worth to point out that with manpower the anarchists get more because they are locked to volunteer only, not counting doctrine they can only have 9.5% recruitable population. Whereas the POUM can get what ever their law is plus 5% and you can also use that communist army spirt that gives you weekly manpower. Both can core Portugal and while the anarchists can get additional cores it can be quite awkward to do so
One point over the anarchists is that you can join factions, or you make one with your focus. Anarchists can never join factions.
While that doesn’t mean much to the solo player, it does open up more options for co-op games for those who want a non-Stalinist game. They pair well with non-Trotsky Mexico, loyalty to the cause France, SFR Yugoslavia, and/or Right Opposition Soviets.
There's still a bug for this Spain commune where they will get their own POUM flag instead of the generic communist Spain flag (due to the cosmetic tag bug)
And guess how long has it been since the release of La Resistancé?
I've always avoided the spanish civil war but you made it look so easy
I always assumed it was an old place holder for the Anarchists
Жаль, что некоторые персонажи потеряли свои уникальные портреты после релиза NSB
Great video!
Can you please help me?
I want to find some useful guide to win as Republican Spain in the civil war with the 1/1/1936 start and no step back dlc.
giraffes are heartless creatures
NGL the italian AI gave me like 10000 guns to me as tannu tuva in my siberian tiger achievement run 1 game because I kept requesting it and improve relations
Fascist italy supporting a random communist country in siberia moment
Yeah, imo the democtate path even more better than spanish commune path. It might be better if the spanish commune path is like potugal communist path (spreading idology inot middle-south americas).
Would not you benefit in the long run from not doing all the republican focuses when going anarchist? I think a player can still overcome the nationalists, but the civil war will start faster (so you will finish it and spread the revolution faster) and you will get new anarchist troops anyways
I was wondering, can you do "The Bell Tolls for us" achievement with Stalinist Spain, or you have to stay democratic?
It fires as long as one of the Spain dies, so technically it is possible before you flip.
You can. I've done it in an anarchist achievement run
If anarchist spain released a nation it would be contradictory unless they just gave the nation the exact same modifiers and focus tree as anarchist spain. (source, the bread book)
How do you save Ironman files for re use?
Good old copy n paste my friend.
But if you go stalinist,you will end like pupet for most of game
I like Stalinist Spain , you become a puppet but by doing appeal for increased autonomy they Will give you indepence , and you get the Five year plan etc , your buffs are great and can do maneuvers in France during Barbarrosa but anti Stalin is pretty shit
I suggest what’s the point of Orleanist France
Better buy time, 100% stability for free and u can join the allies.
@@alexlloyd5354 join the allies is shit and stability is not enough, you don’t have a lot
Better than buy time as France plus u can justify once ww2 starts in the allies so goodbye spain
They have the best economic law
You're thinking of the anarchists. Not the Commune.
@@BubblesZest ah yes
What’s the Point of the Hungarian Peoples Republic?
What's the point of Bourbonist France?
you can core spain
@@emin166 Very late but
You just form a formable
You don't have any other real goal. You could go after Germany or italy, but that's boring. I think there should be having focuses to reclaim all of Europe to be monarchist or create a European Union formable called "United Kingdoms of Europe"
@@UlulvarCape Yes you're right
feedback seen futere
I love your voice bro - a bi person