I'm having exactly the same problem and had the waste setup dismantled thanks to advice from a fitter who's doing my new kitchen. You have reinforced what he said which gives this DIY numpty the confidence to fix it. Much appreciated.
I just got a new waste kit, and was concerned that there was no top rubber washer to go between the waste and tray, so seeing your video has re-assured me! May not have been what you were aiming to help people with, but thank you!
Thanks for the information and know how. Mid morning I had water dripping through the kitchen ceiling, as the upstairs shower was running. Your video proved invaluable in understanding how to fix the problem. The shower drain fitting was very slack, (10 year old shower), followed your instructions, no more leak. Thanks again 👍
Very helpful, thank you. Just had a leak in my 8 month old en suite. While I have contacted the builder, this has put my mind at ease that it's not a massive issue where the whole thing has to be stripped out again. I think when cleaning out the trap today the sealant has dislodged
Thanks for watching. Yes that happens sometimes, or if you use a lot of bleach eventually it eats the rubber seal away and you need to replace it with a new one or in a pinch the sealant. AJ
Amazing video thank you, will give this a go soon. I haven’t got a leak but the silicon sealant under my white plastic piece has mould so want to remove and reseal, but hearing you saying it may be unnecessary I won’t know until I remove to inspect. Thanks 👍🏾
The key here is to prevent water getting behind the screwed insert piece by applying a small bead of silicone where this lip contacts with the shower tray. If this is sealed then in theory the lower rubber gasket is somewhat redundant as water should always escape from the trap waste before it rises to a point where the rubber gasket is needed.
Hi AJ, I'm based in the UK, I need this part as mine has warped slightly, and also the black seal across the grey waste and white part ...do you know what they're both called for me to buy and install? Thanks so much for the video
The one in my.video was a wirquin one 90mm in size. You could try tool station or Screwfix www.screwfix.com/p/shower-waste-chrome-90mm/661pj This may work but check the sizes of the threads Hope that helps AJ
Rule 1 of plumbing... If its made by wirquin (which that trap is) throw it in the bin and get a mcalpine one! Ha other than that good vid.. I wish every shower trap was accessible like that.
You are 100% right. Sounds like you have spent a lot of your time under floorboards sorting these traps out. I am lucky I can get to underneath I realise not everyone can do that but it makes the video better. Thanks for watching.
8:50 so I have done exactly the same and can my waste is dropping down. The water also escapes from the plastic cup (without sealant) causing the leak to the downstairs ceiling...not sure what I can do when I have no access to the ceiling from downstairs
Is it right that our trap is fixed into the tray? Or more likely that its been sealed making it harder to get out? It won't budge but don't want to damage it trying too hard. Getting a bit of a leak and think its under the tray, but it's on the ground floor so can't get under it to be sure.
More than likely it's sealed in, I don't know of any that are part of the tray. If you have a leak it may be coming from some other part of the waste don't forget such as the pipe joins or the tray may have a small crack in. If you see a water mark just after using the shower and then It dries out later in the day then try to put the water directly into the waste if you still get the water mark then its likely not the seal around the waste but the pipework. Hope that helps. Also you can buy a new waste of the same type, remove the top part and if its damaged by forcing then just re use the bottom part of the old waste and fit the new top half, discarding the original top part if damaged.
Hi, just been watching your video as having the same issue in my shower waste. I'm struggling to find anywhere that sells replacement black rubber seals. If I were to use a ring of sealant in place of the washer, is it worth also running addition sealant around that white lip of the tray hole?
Hi, I think I have the same issue, this saves me cutting a hole in the ceiling below ! Can you tell me what size rubber seal that is ans also what is it called? Cheers.
This one is a 90mm waste. But it's entirely possible to use silicone in one continuous bead around the top of the underside piece if you can't find a washer to fit or if you don't have time.
I have water trapped under the shower tray. it makes a squishy sound. It’s leaking via the drain, which was sealed before as it was leaking through the celling. Shall I just try to get as much excess water out and seal it again or just need to call in someone to remove it and dry under the tray? Thank you
Oh wow that sounds more complicated. If it were my choice I would remove the waste, dry out as much as you can then re fit later, but if you need to use it everyday then the best course of action is to remove the whole tray and start again as It is likely the floor underneath has been affected. good luck....
Hi John, thats a very specific problem. I have seen it before though. If your shower waste is connected to the toilet waste (Or same waste pipe) and there is no way of letting air in (Vent pipe or air admittance valve) when you flush the toilet, it is very possible the vacuum created by flushing the toilet will suck out the water from the shower trap leaving a small amount in the bottom. Hope that points you in the right direction. AJ
I'm having exactly the same problem and had the waste setup dismantled thanks to advice from a fitter who's doing my new kitchen. You have reinforced what he said which gives this DIY numpty the confidence to fix it. Much appreciated.
Glad it helped
I just got a new waste kit, and was concerned that there was no top rubber washer to go between the waste and tray, so seeing your video has re-assured me! May not have been what you were aiming to help people with, but thank you!
That's good news I'm glad it helped ! AJ
Thanks for the information and know how. Mid morning I had water dripping through the kitchen ceiling, as the upstairs shower was running. Your video proved invaluable in understanding how to fix the problem. The shower drain fitting was very slack, (10 year old shower), followed your instructions, no more leak. Thanks again 👍
No problem I am glad it helped
Very helpful, thank you. Just had a leak in my 8 month old en suite. While I have contacted the builder, this has put my mind at ease that it's not a massive issue where the whole thing has to be stripped out again. I think when cleaning out the trap today the sealant has dislodged
Thanks for watching. Yes that happens sometimes, or if you use a lot of bleach eventually it eats the rubber seal away and you need to replace it with a new one or in a pinch the sealant. AJ
Amazing video thank you, will give this a go soon. I haven’t got a leak but the silicon sealant under my white plastic piece has mould so want to remove and reseal, but hearing you saying it may be unnecessary I won’t know until I remove to inspect. Thanks 👍🏾
Good luck 👍
Andy after all this time your famous on UA-cam.
Not famous, just older and more grey.!
Thanks for a methodical and detailed explanation, really appreciate this video!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the advice. I just installedvanity unit and upset the waste
The key here is to prevent water getting behind the screwed insert piece by applying a small bead of silicone where this lip contacts with the shower tray. If this is sealed then in theory the lower rubber gasket is somewhat redundant as water should always escape from the trap waste before it rises to a point where the rubber gasket is needed.
Exactly that 👍👍
Great video and advice thank you, just right for what I needed
Glad.it helped you out 👍👍👍
Great, just the info. I needed. Cheers!
Thanks! This was very helpful
Hi AJ, I'm based in the UK, I need this part as mine has warped slightly, and also the black seal across the grey waste and white part ...do you know what they're both called for me to buy and install? Thanks so much for the video
The one in my.video was a wirquin one 90mm in size. You could try tool station or Screwfix
www.screwfix.com/p/shower-waste-chrome-90mm/661pj
This may work but check the sizes of the threads
Hope that helps
AJ
@@ajinfrance cheers!!!
Rule 1 of plumbing... If its made by wirquin (which that trap is) throw it in the bin and get a mcalpine one! Ha other than that good vid.. I wish every shower trap was accessible like that.
You are 100% right. Sounds like you have spent a lot of your time under floorboards sorting these traps out. I am lucky I can get to underneath I realise not everyone can do that but it makes the video better. Thanks for watching.
8:50 so I have done exactly the same and can my waste is dropping down. The water also escapes from the plastic cup (without sealant) causing the leak to the downstairs ceiling...not sure what I can do when I have no access to the ceiling from downstairs
You can put sealant around the bottom part of the waste so when you tighten it.up it seals to the bottom of the tray. I hope you get it fixed.
Is it right that our trap is fixed into the tray? Or more likely that its been sealed making it harder to get out?
It won't budge but don't want to damage it trying too hard.
Getting a bit of a leak and think its under the tray, but it's on the ground floor so can't get under it to be sure.
More than likely it's sealed in, I don't know of any that are part of the tray. If you have a leak it may be coming from some other part of the waste don't forget such as the pipe joins or the tray may have a small crack in. If you see a water mark just after using the shower and then It dries out later in the day then try to put the water directly into the waste if you still get the water mark then its likely not the seal around the waste but the pipework. Hope that helps. Also you can buy a new waste of the same type, remove the top part and if its damaged by forcing then just re use the bottom part of the old waste and fit the new top half, discarding the original top part if damaged.
Thank you extremely helpful
No problems
Hi, just been watching your video as having the same issue in my shower waste. I'm struggling to find anywhere that sells replacement black rubber seals. If I were to use a ring of sealant in place of the washer, is it worth also running addition sealant around that white lip of the tray hole?
Yes sure that would work. In fact I have done similar in the past. Just put sealant on the lower part.
Hi, I think I have the same issue, this saves me cutting a hole in the ceiling below !
Can you tell me what size rubber seal that is ans also what is it called? Cheers.
This one is a 90mm waste. But it's entirely possible to use silicone in one continuous bead around the top of the underside piece if you can't find a washer to fit or if you don't have time.
Brilliant, thanks very much for the quick reply! Excellent video by the way.
I have water trapped under the shower tray. it makes a squishy sound. It’s leaking via the drain, which was sealed before as it was leaking through the celling. Shall I just try to get as much excess water out and seal it again or just need to call in someone to remove it and dry under the tray? Thank you
Oh wow that sounds more complicated. If it were my choice I would remove the waste, dry out as much as you can then re fit later, but if you need to use it everyday then the best course of action is to remove the whole tray and start again as It is likely the floor underneath has been affected. good luck....
Thanks
No worries
The water level is low on my waste trap, it doesn’t reach the drain hole, can you show us how to modify it or do us a video on it ???
Hi John, thats a very specific problem. I have seen it before though. If your shower waste is connected to the toilet waste (Or same waste pipe) and there is no way of letting air in (Vent pipe or air admittance valve) when you flush the toilet, it is very possible the vacuum created by flushing the toilet will suck out the water from the shower trap leaving a small amount in the bottom. Hope that points you in the right direction. AJ
useful thanks
Glad it helped, thanks for watching
Hmmm 🧐 isn't this PB Plumbers voice?
I have no idea who that is, perhaps I have a brother I don't know about?
Next job, sort out the guttering outside.
Not wrong there......