Get in the care of a beautiful RN or doctor, trigger the Florence Nightengale effect with your charm... Set for Life! And you get tons of free time, because they spend 48 hours a day at work! 😄
Lol mine hasnt been out of the garage in 2 years.....shame i used to ride it from when the roads didnt have snow on them until they did regardless of tempature.....coldest ride was -28c.
@@silver_YTfps the start of covid was the best time to ride, so much less traffic in lockdown. And gas was cheaper, I would fill up for $7 now it cost $9
Hey if you're not using it can I erm borrow it for 5-6 months 😔 I swear I'll maintain it and give it back to you in better condition And with with a full tank of gas 😬
For about 3 years my wife and I were a one bike, one car household. She doesn't ride and was working full time so she had the car pretty much every day. I rode everywhere, rain, hail or shine, went to work, the gym and even did my groceries on the bike. It was a great money saver for us.
I got mine to save on gas and tolls, was about up to 400€ with a very diesel efficient car (BMW 116Ed). Even paying credit for the bike, I'd save about half a month or more. Then the pandemic started before I even had my license, lol, there goes the money saving. But now my dad has my car (he lives in the UK, but pandemic made him stay here for a year now), so we are a one bike, one POS deadbeat car (2002 Peugeot with more broken stuff than I can count). My GF was already a bike rider before I even had a car license, so now we can divide the bike and the POS car, instead of having just one vehicle to get around with, plus making the POS car last longer by putting less kms in it. My bike being a NC700x with a 52L case, I can fit three full bags of groceries between the met-in and the case.
@@sorayaimperial I was on a Honda CBR 500R with a 42L top case. Cheap to run, cheap to insure, cheap to service and reliable as taxes. I miss those days.
@@sorayaimperial I rode a Honda Reflex scooter for years with a top case and saddle bags as well as the underseat storage. People would stop and watch me pack my grocery shopping for the week into it. Even had a couple bet that I couldn't fit all my groceries in. I won ;).
My dog is a much better chick magnet than my motorcycle. I've had maybe two women come up to me on my motorcycle. With my dog, it's literally been hundreds, more so when he was a puppy.
@@VB_31 I drive a V-strom, the sound isn't something to write home about. It also prevents tinnitus by breaking up the road noise. It's not like you can't hear horns and sirens. There a big difference between noise cancelling ear buds and internal speakers. I can hear mostly everything around me still. It would be the same difference as playing music in your car. Music also keeps my brain active and alert by keeping me from being tunnel vision from gaping out on long stretches of highway.
Stopped for a coffee over the weekend and a guy about twice my age started chatting to me. Spent about an hour with him talking circuit racing, road racing different bikes, commuting to work and more. Beat sitting there on my own staring at my phone, that’s for sure 👍🏼
My father is from the silent generation/baby boomer generation, somewhere in between there so I know how to talk to older people. It's easy for me. I'm the millennial gen. I see these new kids and they act so uncomfortable and cringe talking to older folks.
@@theenzoferrari458 My hobbies growing up meant I was always around people much older then me. Speaking to my elders never bothered me in fact I came to prefer it due to the maturity of conversation but also the insight. Respect your elders, kids haha
Is no one gonna talk about how amazing it was that he did this whole video in a poem format while still presenting his argument. The man is a modern day Shakespeare.
Me too.....only I never gave up Riding and still have a bike now that those kids have now grown up! I started riding as there was no way I could afford to run a car in the 80's and a bike was a cheap form of transport. So much so, that I had a bike as my main form of transport for over 20 years before I even passed the car test and finaly bought one!
Try that riding a boxer bike in the UK. Every dude over 50 feels the compulsion to come over for a chat and tell you about how much they miss their R1100 or similar. I will say that 90% of the time it turns into a decent and pleasant chat, but more often than not you were just stopping for a quick toilet break!
I like old shit too so my entire life is this x4 Just try and drive a 1975 Pinto or an 88 GS1150 or a foxbody without everybody coming out of the woodwork lmao.
@@alphastratus6623 If you live long enough to have them and dont lose your jewels. My parents allways start screaming at me when I talk about bikes because they lost many of their friends to them.
I'm surprised about the saving money part - one of the first things I felt while riding compared to driving a car was less worry about paying for gas or insurance, I go places I would never go in the car because I'd weigh up the cost of a tank of fuel but my bike does 200 miles on $13 so the cost is pretty much removed from the equation when travelling for me. I have to learn how to properly maintain my bike so it doesn't decay too badly sure but that's also a plus - teaching me personal responsibility.
True on motorcycle maintenance teaching you personal responsibility. It's especially true if you didn't get good role modeling for that kind of thing as a kid. Every time I do maintenance on my bike I feel a double sense of satisfaction - getting a job done, and getting myself a little stronger on self-discipline.
that one is specially not true, everything in a motorbike is cheaper, from insurance to licence plates. Plus with the cheapest car you can buy several motorbikes. Theres just no beating it, its cheaper.
Last summer, I had what was actually a really delightful conversation in a grocery store parking lot, with a neat little old dude who looked approximately 112 years old. He asked me if my Oldwing was a 650, and was quite impressed by its 1100 cc’s. “I’ll bet it’ll touch 100 eh!” “It certainly will,” I told him. Then he talked about riding across Spain, and parts of Europe after WW2 on a bike who’s brand he couldn’t recall. Sometimes it’s good to give a few minutes of your life to an old timer; they gave up a lot so I can enjoy this quality of life, and they have some really great stories to share.
My good ole '89 Honda CT200 gets the same reaction from the old farmhands, they go on and on about their old paddock basher bikes and how the Hondas went forever. Always nice to find someone who remembers the days way before my parents ever met like it's just yesterday and get another look at the world through different eyes.
Absolutely. That's part of the joy of it all. I once got stranded in a parking lot on my pacific coast. It was cold, tow truck took forever and a half to get there. But, I started conversations with 4 completely different people. Some who were just curious about the bike, a guy who had a beat-to-hell pickup truck that also wouldn't start. An army veteran and his wife, and a guy who wanted to know what the actual hell my pacific coast was. I sipped away at my coffee and enjoyed the conversations, it really brightened my day. Eventually I got a friend to pick me up, but that experience reminded me that there's more than one way to have fun with a bike. Stay safe at there, and be open to new experiences!
I was debating whether to ride my motorcycle or drive my car to mine the other day. I ended up taking the car. Guess that statement will remain true for now
I can confirm the older people that like to talk. That's how it should be though. Meet people, hear stories and enjoy it all. If it wasn't for the bike you wouldn't have met that person. Everybody be nicer to each other.
@@jasonswiatkowski9127 Knowledge is priceless. I miss my old man, one of the few people whose opinion I highly value. One hell of an awesome driver too...
yeah if i'm out for a ride I love talking to the old guys that used to have a bike..usually very friendly and we share a common interest..it's a part of what makes motorcycle riding so great..
The small talk if you happen to stop together at a light is a pleasant change of pace these days. Feels way more connected in a way you'd never get just going from point A to point B in a car
its also a great way to get pinned down in Harbor Freight for an hour when you really shouldnt have stopped there in the first place and your girl is steady texting you (this was yesterday - 3 dudes raving over my rebel 250 ratbike I shit you not - one of them DID put the idea in my head of attaching magnesium strips to cars/bikes to shower out sparks while driving/riding, so it wasnt a total loss)
Says my son, "It's all been done And someday you're gonna wake up old and gray So go and try to have some fun Showing warmth to everyone You meet and greet and cheat along the way" Sturgill Simpson
Or they get, “It was an R6 with a burned out headlight” 😂 I’ve actually seen a police BOLO press release that said that. It said we are looking for a black sport bike with a burned out headlight. I wanted to respond, “Well Edmonton Police, you just described almost all sport bikes.”
I got stopped riding my Norton doing about twice the speed limit and the cop was acting tough until the helmet came off and the gray hair came out. He rolled his eyes and went away to write the ticket.
My car broke down a couple of months ago, had it at a shop, told my friend how much the repair would cost and he explained to me why that sum was outrageous. So he took me back to the shop, racing the clock and we managed to do a trip of 17 minutes with low traffic in 8. Got off the bike when we arrived and I was shaking and sick to my stomach. And now I want one too 😂
The "motorcycle insurance is cheaper" line is absolutely true in the USA for us young unmarried men. I'm 27 with zero accidents on my record. Liability insurance with uninsured motorist coverage costs me around $100 a year instead of $100 a month for the same coverages on literally any four-wheeled road vehicle no matter how safe.
$100 a month is considered dirt cheap up here in the North. $10K+ per year is standard for sportbikes and companies with reasonable rates flat out refuse to insure them.
@@guest426 Yikes. Your literally paying for a new bike every year with those premiums!!!! I pay $150 liability A YEAR, for my 2018 R6 and only like $50 for yearly registration. I was pretty surprised how cheap the rates are. Now if you want full coverage, it's like $120-160 a month, which is still nowhere near 10 grand your quoting. Big yikes.
I have cut my screen time down by over 50% because I was wasting time watching UTube videos but I will never stop watching this fabulous Canadian from beautiful British Columbia.
as a 64 year old with 2 Victory Motorcycles I am now going to be self conscious about talking to other bikers if I am not riding. for about 40 years my motorcycles have always cost more than any car or truck I owned. I am one of those guys always buying accessories, never ran stock pipes, always trying different tires, endless small mods, changing handlebars, custom paint jobs, etc. Since switching from Harleys to Victory in 2004 I have about 160,000 miles on the Victories and about 18 different length Iron Butt certifications. All while living in Alaska, with a very short riding season. Have made a couple trips to Florida. I am the old guy that always stops when I see a motorcycle and ask about mods, tires, gas mileage, stage 1 kits, always wondering what to try next. Even run a car tire on my crossroads. I have probably annoyed someone watching this video asking questions about their bike.
Too right, as a 63 year old I have been riding since I was 13, done loads of miles, loads of different bikes, raced solos and kneelers, and I make a point of not talking to young riders.
It is ok to be self-conscious. Wait for them to ask. Open up, be friendly, but be ready to duck out. the danger of politeness is that most adults in America have lost the ability to say, "no". Kids are no better.
Greetings from Fairbanks! I'm 71, I got a Honda CB500X three years ago after not riding for nearly 45 years because of a wreck doing crazy sh*t on a bike. Buying that bike was the best thing I've done for myself in decades. I don't do crazy sh*t anymore and my bike is no screamer. But you know what they say: "It is more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike slow." Safe riding.
I think longevity of a motorbike highly depends on the motorbike itself and how well it has been maintained and looked after. When I did my CBT training in the UK, the test centre had Honda CG125’s with 150,000 miles on the clock, driven by learner riders daily. It’s possible for them to last very long but I think careful consideration of the bike, ownership and maintenance from new is essential.
Very true, I own a cg125 myself and it costs all in all £800 for the bike, £500 for insurance and about £7 a week on fuel plus minor maintenance and is the most reliable little run around. Couldn't have made a better decision.
A good friend of mine recently acquired a classic Yamaha Enduro from his late grandfather with less than a 1000 miles on it, original tires, original plates from 50 years ago, etc. The first time he took it out after getting it serviced, I went with him to take photos. Three separate attempted photo locations all were interrupted by elderly men intent on talking my pal's ear off about "the bikes they didn't have." Nostalgia is a drug!
@@njpaddler You’re perfectly safe on old tires, so long as you keep speeds down and don’t push corners hard. Tires don’t magically explode when they reach the ‘Best Before’ date!
@@GameCyborgCh it might work for some, but not most. If anything, most chicks would want you to quit riding. Just finding a woman that willing to accept your hobby is already a big win.
@@joemann7971 my partner just wants to make sure I come home alive haha, otherwise she is accepting of my hobby while at the same time wanting nothing to do with it. That's fine with me, it's good to have independent interests and hobbies.
@@GameCyborgCh If someone gets into riding to "pick up chicks", they are riding for the wrong reasons. But thats the same mentality you see with flashy cars and lifestyles. And you end up attracting the "chicks" you really don't want anything to do with anyway lol
I am an old guy who still rides the bike he owned 30 years ago plus a couple of newer ones. When I get approached by someone talking about once having or wishing they had a bike I turn the conversation around and ask them why they don't ride when life is so short.
I still have my first 'real' bike I got 45 yrs ago... a '76 XLCH which I still ride. First bike was a beat up '70 or '71 Honda CB350 that if I had used my head I would never have purchased from this guy. It wasn't even street legal since it was missing its turn lights! With what I had to spend to make it legal and to fix stuff I could have bought a new bike! But it has been a great adventure and I wouldn't change anything. Least not bike wise! lol
On the topic of "once the kids arrived", I know a lot of guys who rode in their thirties but their wives wouldn't allow them to ride because the kids are small and they were worried he might die. A couple of them started riding immediately once the kids turned 18. Kids are also costly to grow and you won't have a shortage of money sinks.
I’m an emergency medicine doctor who has ridden 54 years on over 30 bikes, loved 500,000 miles on 4 continents in all kinds of weather. When one of my patients tries to tell me they’re dangerous, I tell them “most people over 65 consider walking from the bedroom to the kitchen dangerous. I’m going to live the life I love with no regrets.” Fear controls most people’s lives.
Having a bike to save money in university worked for me, partly. I had a car too, but would remove liability from it during riding season and the bike was half the price to insure. The CBR125 was great on gas in the city, but my Geo Metro actually beat it at highway fuel consumption (and was faster too - a rare thing to say about a Metro). Parking permits on campus were expensive and elusive for cars, but a motorcycle permit was cheap and let you park in more convenient lots (often a widened part of the sidewalk in front of your desired building). Being young and cheap, I skipped much of the riding gear that I now cringe to ride without.
Yeah this pillock clearly doesn't know what he's on about. No one wants to ride a push bike 40 minutes to work when a motorcycle can do it in 10, and cheap at about 80+mpg. Also in my experience I've made friends with women through motorbikes, so thats bollocks. Then emissions, if it uses less fuel then there's more natural resources.
I road a my KLR and saved $2,500 a year. I crunched the numbers to the point where I was comparing tires, brakes, fluids, fuel, and the added cost of gear(along with estimated replacement by time/mileage, Thanks FortNine for that video) 100 miles a day at 45 miles per gallon for 5 days a week, front tire at 10k rear tire chain and sprockets at 20k, clean and lube 2 times a week, factory brakes lasted longer than expected(highway riding) at 20k, did all my own work(I am a mechanic) with the help of my factory service manual.
I completely agree. Besides, I do all my groceries just fine with a top case and luggages and my bike cost me 500 bucks (DL650 from 2005), my father is a mechanic and taught me how to do 90% of the work needed on a bike. Overall, my gear cost me more than the bike itself but still less than getting a car I could restore in the same condition. The bike will last for a while and there's ton of spare parts to make it worth it in the long run. Though, no luck on the chick side of things haha
I have the full SW Motech setup and that is what I used for shopping. Used a soft cooler with ice packs in the summer time here in Texas for cold items. I think is really depends on what your are expecting to accomplish with your motorcycle, and what kind you are looking at. You are not getting a 650 sport bike and using it like a car, maybe a cruiser. But dual sport bikes are the most versatile for this due to the luggage options, you could do it with other types of motorcycles but dual sports just the aftermarket support with luggage options. I have done 500 mile solo road trips with it.
That $2500 value disappears really quickly when you start talking capability. I would easily pay $2500 to have a 4 wheel vehicle. I did 600 miles of 50/50 on/off-roading yesterday in my 4Runner. It rained almost the entire time. I can sleep in a vehicle. I can carry way more. I wasn't getting pissed on. I had a KLR as well. I now have an Africa Twin.
@@someguy5035 I factored that in. I have done 1,000 mile round trip vacation on my KLR. Have you heard of a tent? Also if you are afraid of a little water, how do you bath? Also if I had $2,500 extra for disposable income, and the fact that my car at the time had no cruise control and I have a bad right knee that throbs with pain after holding a gas peddle in one position for more that 10 minutes, I would have been in a car too. But I did not have $2,500 of disposable income, my knee is really bad, and I am not afraid of minor discomfort because I not a wuss.
I agree. I live in Kitchener Ontario, and I got rid of my car. Bicycle for shorter trips and winter, moto for long trips. cars are far more expensive to maintain than bikes.
To be fair I first got a road motorcycle at 16 and can confirm that at high school and first year of university motorcycles do attract young women. However after that "Dating a boy because Daddy will hate him" loses it's appeal thereafter. That said motorcycling has had an enriching experience on my life, I think. 🙂
Got into motorcycles becuase of my dad. And he said from day 1 this is an expensive kinda dangerous and impractical hobby. Dont think you will get ladies, but you will meet some of the best people this world has to provide.
All that's been my experience with riding for 7 years now. I'd add that it makes the rider a better person also - more self-disciplined, more practical and no-nonsense in thinking, and more deeply confident overall. Your dad was right, it's kinda dangerous, and fairly expensive, being more expensive the more enthusiasm you have for it. You do meet a better quality of fellow human beings, and on more positive terms. I'd compare it to becoming a dog owner, but on the tougher side of things. As for meeting women, that's a myth. For every woman who thinks you're cool to have a bike, there are ten who think you're (probably) immature, undisciplined, and under-employed. The real disappointment comes when you're just being your friendly self with a woman fellow motorcyclist (in a parking lot or wherever). They're not rude, but they're too wary to talk.
I actually think getting a motorcycle was one of the best financial decisions I ever made. At the time I only had a truck and a bicycle. The truck was annoying cause I could never find street parking, so I just kept it at home where the battery would repeatedly die on me cause I never drove it. Meanwhile I still had to pay something like $100/mo on insurance. The bike cost more like $30/mo to insure and it did end up lasting me nearly 10 years/(30k miles). It was really useful for the kinds of trips I just never could have made on a bike in a reasonable amount of time. The gas consumption was decent, though not as good as good as it should have been given how much smaller it was compared to a car (no wind tunnel tested body?). Maintenance was pretty cheap too. Unlike a car, there really wasn’t much on the motorcycle I couldn’t figure out how to fix myself.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun I really couldn't disagree more. Try ripping the engine out of a v8 truck.... chances are you can't, don't have a crane to lift the damn thing. I sure as fuck don't. On a motorcycle? Chances are you could lift the engine by hand.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun your argument fell apart and so you react with extreme anger. Congratulations, you've reduced your argument to people who own tractors. I'm sure that's widely applicable.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun No, you speak for yourself. You literally just acknowledged you're speaking from a place of privilege. That other person COMPLETELY has a point and just because your panties are up in a twist doesn't mean they're wrong. It's a PRIVILEGE to be able to work on your engine, even being taught how to do so and being able to use cranes are a privilege. So while you are right that he can work on his truck, the other person is also right about it being a privilege to work on your v8 engine to begin with. Stop being so mad
@whiteAfrikkkanNun Because you get to spend money on that instead of forking it over to your insurances, mortgages, studen loans, etc. Yeah getting to work to play with your toys is a privilege, working to survive is just something everyone has to do though. The moment you get to have any control over what you WANT instead of just what you NEED then you are at a privileged point.
Yeah ppl say this but I kinda disagree, women just aren't going to come up to you and ask about your bike like a guy will but that doesn't mean they don't peep it. Ofc it's not like that'll make a huge difference in having a chance with them but ultimately it makes you more interesting which means you'll be slightly more attractive to them.
First bike I got was a Suzuki TC125. A true barn find, back in the 80s before "barn find" was a thing. I was a poor kid who had to learn how everything worked so I could get it working. No google, didn't know such things as workshop manuals existed and probably wouldn't find anything but confused blank stares if I asked at my small town's library. Got her going and kept her going for years. She's still in my garage although she needs more TLC than I can give at present. She set me up for maintaining vehicles, especially bikes. My other bikes have all gotten well into the 6 figure mark and all in good condition. Only one, a mid-80s Shadow, needed anything significant prematurely, and that was new rings in the first weeks after I got it at around 60,000miles. I have no idea how the PO got them worn without other damage. It's nothing for cruisers to get into 6 figures if they're maintained. If a car's not maintained it won't get there either. I've seen a number of bikes like litre+ CBR's happily get into 6 figures, even with things like ceasing timing chain tensioners. Admittedly my experience is mainly with Honda and Suzuki, and other jab brands. But I cannot see why, unless a bike is thrashed and mistreated it won't last quite a long time. With the price of petrol over here, bikes are far cheaper than cars to run, even factoring in all purchase price, gear, maintenance and registration costs! Of course, lane splitting vs sitting in traffic helps a hell of a lot. As does 1/3rd the engine size hauling less than 1/4 of the weight.
@@thatjokerperson7062 youre not an actual rider if you really think just 1500 bucks, stock, no 2. bike is really enough.... also, your bike must be janky asf
@@GreenMntMoto When you have a well know high end brand, it will only attract women who thinks it is expensive. You know the type. But a T100, eye popping!
There is an old dude round the corner who on a rainy day opens his garage to show off his motorcycle collection, on a sunny day he wheels them out on to his drive. I think in the hope someone will stop and talk to him. I really should stop and talk to him.
I bought my first bike 2008. I wanted to save on gas cause i had no money. Today i still ride to save a little money, but now its more because i love the feeling of absolute calculated risk of freedom
Bikes are actually significantly cheaper in the UK especially for youngsters. I ran a bike every day of the year for years, never had a car - just made it work (like most developing asian countries do). Everyone else was bitching they couldn't afford to save, to buy a house etc. Same £900 bandit 600 parked out in the elements 365 and ridden in temps as low as -10c parked up next to £20,000 cars driven by people my age bitching they can't afford to buy a house.
@@lazthegreat10 Bruh that's nearly a full year of wages for most folks, and a deposit of ~10k is enough to be accepted for a 2 bed starter home mortgage. I bought a brand new bike I actually liked for ~2K, meanwhile the cheapest crappy 2 door car is ~15k. You are also missing the hidden cost of finance, most folk finance cars but just outright buy a bike. For used vehicles that gap is even better as most cars have a huge amount of mileage and issues on them to get cheaper. Also MPG is often double on a bike and all you need is CBT. It's 100% more economical.
In the UK bikes are just flat out cheap and border line free. My bandit I run all year around , my ktm net me 18k savings letting me up my life and go, public transport and cars would both have been a lot lot more expensive.
60 is *ancient* ? Hahaha... I'm 67 and ride a sport touring bike that'll get me into the felony zone in less than 4 seconds, and answer questions from younger riders who approach me most often. I tell them to escape their day jobs asap and do some touring because it is truly the spice of life. 😎
@@HPCAT88 Yep Senf, and glad I am. The 60s and 70s era was a great time to be alive. Good music, hot women galore, and much more unregulated freedom than you have today.
In Europe the environmental aspect is slightly more true I'd say tho, you don't stop moving when traffic gets congested bc we're allowed to filter through traffic in specific conditions so in the end you burn less gas idk
@@SwainixFPV the quality of exhaust is just so much worse for bikes in the day to day, that it does not make a difference. If you'd go for similar emissions quality as in a car, the bike would be a dog to ride.
Went for a walk downtown, saw a guy with a helmet, started chatting, came along very well. Turns out that he is a pilot for small aircraft. Now we are planning to do a little trip! I love motorcycle riders🤗
"But a motorcycle with 6 figures on the clock will be absolutely shot" Laughs in BMW with 150k on the odo But yeah really depends on the bike and how you drive it. A bike designed to be used a daily will rack up a lot of highway miles and keep doing that a loooooong time.
I have a motorcycle as a woman, and dudes my age dont even talk to me so I can relate! Its the older guys like the video coming up and asking the year of my bike and telling me they used to ride lol
but isnt it better like this? women often get annoyed at random dudes talking to them for no reason i ride a bicycle and in my parents home city i often get called by kids and brats who want to know if i want to sell mine and it's annoying really when i started riding my bike, i get tailed by one motorcyclist who talked me while riding in a curve and it was dangerous asking about where i bought it and what price
Last month I had just gassed up and stretching and relaxing before continuing home. A young lady on a sport bike stopped for gas. I'm at least 25 years older and said, "Nice day for a ride." She gave me a sour look and said, "Leave me alone." I backed off, walked to the next pump island, donned helmet and gloves, fired up Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic and putted away. Funny thing I saw her waive in my rear view mirror. Too bad.
@@mongosafariadventure she assumed that everyone who says hi to her gonna start some lame convo and try to hit on her i can relate, when it comes to kids asking if i want to sell my bicycle or younger guys asking if i want to sell my motorcycle but i if they ask for info about my motorcycle i feel happy to talk, just annoyed how everyone assume you want to sell it i think girls get asked too much or flirted on too much that it rubs them the wrong way
I got a motorcycle in part to save money. It worked out super well! $2800 bike, $100 a year liability insurance, and about $4-8 in gasoline a week (going to school, work, social gatherings, and the odd grocery trip here and there). That was 7 years ago, and while I've also had to put in a few hundred in maintenance, and probably about $2,500 in gear (cost of two full set of gear, my beginner and more premium gear), I've saved quite a lot of money. No regrets.
If I only had $1 for every old guy (older than me) that comes up to me talking about the bike he ‘used to have’ or the friend/relative that was killed/injured on one.
I'd have been rich 35 years ago if I had $1 every time I heard "You're gonna kill yourself on that thing." ...now that I'm old, no one says that to me any more.
Usually it is the old ladies telling me I'm gonna kill myself on it, and their husbands mumbling something about how he misses the bike he sold when he met her.
If honest, if I had $1 for every old guy that has come up to me over the years.... I might have 10 or 11 bucks. It really isn't the epidemic everyone in the comments seems to be making of it. That said, I am pretty much anti-social, so anyone walking up to me while I am minding my business, getting ready to roll, is a pain. I'll entertain it for a moment and then just tell them straight up that I have to get going.
I got a bike as my daily because I had dirt bike experience and it's all I could afford. Years later and I could afford a car but I just ended up switching from sport bike to adv for comfort and capability. Driving a cage feels like something I have to do while riding is something I get to do. Be safe everyone!
@cedrick I'm a motorcycle guy, a car guy and a truck guy, and I'll tell you that any motorcycle, even small displacement ones are fun to ride. Where as with cars, only sporty cars are fun to drive. Trucks and body-on-frame SUVs are usually boring but they can be very fun if you off-road them or go overlanding but they are sooo much more expensive than a dual sport or ADV bike for that purpose. Motorcycles are the most fun for the money in my opinion.
My first way to get around was a motercycle, I have been riding through rain and snow, constintly finding ways to make it work till I couldn't anymore. I have been hit twice, I am part metal. I have wrecked countless times on my own. Too many to count. Yet still here I am, trying to put life back into my motercycle
1975 CB 750s, 350s, 200s and even 125s are still rolling and many look and ride like they did in 1978 with a couple years of use. GL500s and up seem to last forever. Insurance is dollars a month on those basic riders too, often less than 10. Mine is $5.50 a month basic liability and comp, since the bike is so old they would only hand me $1000 if I totalled it...no collision.
Maybe it's because my father raised me on motorcycles but I feel deep, profound joy even just from sitting on a bike and feeling the cool metal of the gas tank beneath my fingers, the mechanical click of the key turning the ignition. I can't imagine life without being able to go on a ride at least once in a while
One of the reasons I bought a motorcycle was to sabe money, on the daily commute... So far it has been working out fine! I save money and time (I can arrive home almost one hour earlier before having my CB)
That lane splitting used to save me a ton of time. Not sure it every did save me money though because I paid a lot more for my motorcycle than I did for my reliable old Honda commuter.
If you buy specific bikes, you can save money, especially if you cut your car insurance a bit. Just don't expect to on a $40,000 Harley or a Ducati or whatever. A CB is a perfect commuter bike.
@@PaulGuy I have a 2019 CB300R. Insurance is 88€ anually It doesn't pay anual vehicle tax (in Portugal, below 350cc you are exempt) Dealer anual maintenance is 65€
I was a heavy rider in my younger years, putting almost 100k on a CX500... I loved riding! After a couple crashes, becoming a paramedic, working many NASTY crashes where the motorcycle wasn't at fault, I'm actually terrified to ride a motorcycle at this point in my life.
@Socucius Ergalla Unfortunately, no I have not. I count myself lucky to see someone wearing a helmet. The airbag collars and suits do look promising and I am curious as to how well they protect as well.
I dont even ride bikes, I might not ever (although this channel is slowly changing that), but I appreciate how this channel gets critical of its own hobby/lifestyle. Cool sweater too.
He's being realistic.. which I appreciate. If I could i'd own every form of transportation on the planet but $$ and space. I currently use a bicycle, e-bike and car (for distance and cargo).. I could do a motorcycle again but can't justify the insurance. Depending on your circumstances I'd suggest at least giving a motorcycle a try, it's still the best option for stretching gas vs distance and unlike a car it really connects you to the world around where you drive, and of course that feeling of freedom and speed.
I disagree with that first point. I got into riding because i simply couldn't afford a car at the time and a bicycle was inadequate for my 40 mile commute. I got a really good deal on a cheap bike and it lasted me well through college until i could afford a decent car. A $500 car will absolutely strand you and/or get you fired, but there abound $500 motorcycles that will get you to and from work/school. add a $30 jacket and a $50 helmet plus negligible insurance/ registration and you have a very low barrier for those below the poverty line. Sure i got wet a lot and rarely had any fun, but was able to improve my life and stay out of debt on 2 wheels.
A motorcycle will put a smile on your face, and that my fellas is priceless. :) Great vid as always Ryan, love the blend of long full blown documentaries, mixed with the little skits like this
Yeah, I get stopped at gas stations all the time by guys wanting to talk about the bikes they used to ride. I had one girl interact with me because of the bike - it was at 90mph on the highway, and she accelerated beside me and beckoned for me to follow her. It was also my very first day on said bike (2020 Superduke GT), and I was seconds away from my exit to go back home to my wife. Truthfully, the girl probably just wanted to talk to me about my car's extended warranty, so I don't know if the story even counts.
Yeah, I hope this was just a small "Fix" of Fortnine goodness, and something more substantial is on the way. It's brilliant, but your own sky-high standards are biting your canadian bacon. We want more! :) (and yeah, I'll never get one - but I'd love your take on the PanAmerica too - but basically I'd watch you talking about which shoelaces to buy for 20 minutes, and still be happy!)
Damn, I hit all three of these... But for real, I'm young, I live in a rural environment, I'm eco-conscious, I'm poor and I'm a lonely lesbian. All that being said, I bought my first bike second hand super cheap from a guy who was moving away and couldn't use it any more, it was poorly maintained and I've sunk almost three times as much as I paid for it into bringing it back to it's former glory. I may have wanted a bike for all the reasons this video says not to, but I always think back to watching my dad put together an old 125 in the back garden when I was young. I think about the motorbike road racing that takes over my country for two weeks ever year, I think about the freedom and the thrill that comes with riding and the responsibility I have when in the saddle. I think about how in looking to ride myself I was able to give riding back to my dad and how we can ride together now and about the stronger relationship we've been able to build because of it. So even if it's marginally cheaper, even if ecologically it's not as bad as a car but still not great, even if I never meet my future partner through riding well... I'm still going to ride, because I want to and in retrospect I've always wanted too. Whatever your reason when you start out, if you enjoy it, if you want to do it, you'll find any reason to keep on going.
I can think of 1 situation where the "save money" approach actually held up: My first bike, a 1972 CZ 175 sport. It was basically ugly, although somehow quaintly "adorable" (Well, to me, anyways), would only breach the 50mph "wall" if you threw it off a cliff (Had a friend with a tricked up moped that was just as fast....mine could brake though, and the insurance was valid) and was admittedly a rather clunky ride. On the other hand I got it for less than what my 50cc moped I upgraded from sold for ready to ride, it did about 70mpg no sweat (Which was a fair achievement for a cheap used vehicle back in the 80's), I could maintain and actually pretty much overhaul it with a bare minimum of tools, it proved nearly impossible for me to destroy (forgot oil in the gas once, had 3 crashes etc. - last crash was a total though ,rammed it into the front of a suddenly left turning car - the car drivers insurance did pay me back about twice my cost of the bike plus the personal injury part - plus I got to keep the wreck for parts), and when it did require a few parts they cost literally pocket money. DEFINITELY not a bike that would increase your luck with the ladies nor would you get ANY sort of bragging rights out of it, but that was not the point. What it did was increase my reasonable "distance from home range" quite a bit, maybe about 3 times, compared to a bicycle or my moped, when kept legal. Yes, the bus could have helped with that too, but at a much higher cost in travel time. The final piece in the puzzle was insurance cost. As an 18-year old in Denmark, there was no way i would be able to pay less than the equivalent of 1500-2000$ a year to ensure a car, but the CZ I could ensure for about 100$, even without any seniority or doing tricks like having my parents ensure it for me, and a few years later I could also transfer earned seniority to my first car ensurance (wouldn't have worked from car to MC, though). For gear, i rode in my moped helmet , a pair of old well waxed leather boots and a waterproof thermo boiler suit i also already had. Not ideal, but worked out just fine. So for me it, all in all, it was a moneysaving solution. But the combination of a fair bit of luck and the rather all-in "No nonsense" approach to brutally keeping costs down was definitely central parts to make it happen. It's not for those fond of looking cool or craving an awful lot in the way of comfort. Had a ton of fun on it, though, and really learned a lot about motorcycling in a comparatively safe way, that I really have appreciated later on.
Time, it’s save me time. 90 mins a day saved cutting through rush hour traffic, 25 days a month, gives me real home time with the family. Oh, and I look monster cool on my GSA 🤔
True. My commute in LA on a motorcycle was 1/3 the time on the bike vs a car and 1/4 of the time vs a bus. And I got free parking in an expensive parking area. However, it had limits. I remember one day being up on a Malibu beach with friends. I got back to my bike at the same time my roommate got to his car. Pretty heavy traffic. I split lanes pretty aggressively coming back West LA. I only beat my buddy home by 20 minutes (took him 1 hour). When you factor in the time it took me to suit up for the ride, the stress of the ride in that traffic, and the added danger from traveling that way, I probably would have been better off in an air conditioned car listening to music and talking with friends.
This! Spent years sitting in traffic commuting to work and back. Got a motorcycle (it's legal to filter where I live) and it's given me back an hour of my day. And I love riding my bike which also makes a difference. With the car, I'd get in, sigh, and drive to work. With the bike, i'm happy to walk out to the garage and hop on even though I know I'm going to work at least the trip there will be fun.
Always have the old guys talking about theirs stories. Love them…instant connection with the world..that is a great benefit of riding. Always get better connection on a bike then with a car!
Pretty sure I have a VHS tape from like 1986 about skateboarding that shows of that amazing bowl featured in this video. Edit: yup, it was called Radical Moves and featured some skating by Rodney Mullen and Tony Hawk 😁
Careful picking on us old guys. Been riding my KLR through South America for the last 5 years and well north of 60. Riding for over 50 years. Really great video. You have talent. Let me tell you about my Kawi 900 Z1b when they first came out. LOL
@@seanbirtwistle649 That’s the entire point of them building an ADV bike. They are trying to attract an entirely different type of rider from their usual customer.
@@TripleHelixed buell had a shot when super sports were still cool. Porsche even made them an engine to go fast...er. I say good luck. Too many dentists and lawyers wanting people to think they're sons of anarchy once or twice a year
@@seanbirtwistle649 There are definitely some people that still want cruisers but it’s not enough. Harley has been bleeding for a little while now. Ryan made a great video on it
I live in VA and I work in DC. By car, it takes me 45 min to get to work, on my Tracer GT 12 minutes (Bikes can go on HOV/Easy Pass lanes for free). So yes, it saves me money, time, it helps the environment, and IT'S FUN!
During the summer here in the California Bay area. For years I would get off working overtime at 12:00 noon on Saturday and head home 30 miles to Santa Cruz. Beach traffic back up on the only Mountain Highway would mean 3 hours by car or 50 minutes by motorcycle splitting traffic (legal in Ca.). Which would you chose?
@@L4ND.SH4RK Worst I've had to do was the two carbs on my VS1400. One was a downdraft, one a side draft. The idle speed was adjusted on the rear carb, which turned a cable that adjusted the front carb's idle speed. There wasn't a vacuum port on either carburetor. You pretty much had to adjust it by ear.
I went out today in the sunshine ☀ on my bike after months of lockdown in the uk 🇬🇧 And I'm still smiling from it 4 hours later.. That's why.............. 😁
I was thinking about getting a CB125F for my daily commute to save on gas, then I remembered I have to buy the all the kit. So now I'll just buy it because I want it and not give excuses 😎
Girls when they see you have a motorcycle: 1% of the time: Hey, maybe he isn't as boring as I thought... 9% of the time: He's probably obsessed with it and will be badly injured soon enough. Not attractive! 90% of the time: He has a motorcycle? I couldn't care less.
I was seriously thinking to buy myself a motorcycle because it is much more convenient where I live. But then I became a father..... Well, at least I can enjoy FortNine videos for artistic value. Seriously man, your script and editing is among the best on UA-cam.
Would love to see a video on suspension... Finding the right shocks for the kind of ride you want can be very tricky and unclear what and why shocks perform the way they do given various parameters....
Reason number one definitely caught me off guard when I first started 😅 Now I just embrace the expensive and inconvenient but supremely enjoyable motorcycle lifestyle 🤣
One day we are going to find out who ICBC is sleeping with. Why cant we have more private insurance companys to compete with eatch other to lower the rates ?
@@savagex466-qt1io Having lived in both Ontario and Quebec, trust me, you don't want privatized insurance. Insurance rates are much higher in provinces with privatized insurance systems because the insurance companies are accountable only to their bottom line. For example, I have friends in BC who have multiple cars, including classics and sports cars, and they pay significantly less than I do for a single car here in QC. We are all about the same age and have clean driving records. To expound, Ontario is fully privatized, whereas Quebec is semi-privatized...Here in QC, we pay for our public liability insurance as part of our vehicle registration fees, but still have to carry a rider from an insurance company for the rest. The result of even a partial public offset makes insurance in Quebec, significantly lower than in Ontario, though not as low as in BC. In short, the theoretical "competition" benefit of privatization is completely undone by deregulating the costs. Yes, here, insurance companies have to compete, but they know they can all charge much, much higher rates.
@@adam4kq You wrote me a letter. I read it all. Thanks for your time. Well said. Ya its just people are fed up with ICBC its there way or no highway lol How come USA has such cheap insurance ? They are private ?
@@savagex466-qt1io Thanks for the compliment. I have virtually no knowledge on how the insurance systems work in the United States, so I can't speak to that. Cheers!
I don’t know, I like having a car and motorcycle. Always gives me a backup if one has mechanical problems. Car needs to go in for service? I’ll rough it and ride in the rain.
"save money" unless you're a courier. went from buying 4gal a day in my reasonable focus to half a gallon. 8x savings (in monetary terms, 8172 a year to around 1021 a year) H&R insurance went from 6k/y third party only to 1k/y fully comp. 6x savings. that alone is a used busa and a grand change sure my maintenance cost went from 200/year to 1200/year, but remember ive saved a busa on the insurance! all in all, saving approximately 11k a year!
There is only one reason you need: ”because i want to”
you're goddamn right
I want me a ktm1290R super andventure but it costs more than my parent's car and I don't work yet! 😭
Sold my F800R 1 week ago and my new F900R comes in hopefully 2 weeks. And I exactly say your mentioned sentence to everyone who asks why I bought it!
@@shunittseru three weeks without a bike! - what the hell are you thinking of, man? : )
@@juanordonezgalban2278 thats a bad choice as a beginner bike
After I got my motorcycle I started meeting a lot of nice girls. They all work at the hospital though. What a coincidence...
Get in the care of a beautiful RN or doctor, trigger the Florence Nightengale effect with your charm... Set for Life! And you get tons of free time, because they spend 48 hours a day at work! 😄
LMAOO
Not gonna lie he had us in the first half
Same they were so cute that I went into a coma
mee too
The girls part is comedy/tragedy. It worked for me in high school, but now all I get are 25-65 year old men hitting on my Africa Twin.
I too get old men hitting on my African twins
Africa twins are gay that's why
@@friedrichs.8004 Clever reply 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
@@friedrichs.8004 Exactly, this dude knew exactly what he was getting into when he bought an AT
red or white ?
Confucius say: "Man who want pretty nurse, must be patient."
LMFAO!
@@sinuslebastian6366 LMFAO, The Chinese Hacker who works for the Koreans!
@@terragaia7092 wut??
@@sinuslebastian6366 He's deranged, don't listen to him
😂👍
I bought a motorcycle so it can sit in my garage for 8 months a year.
Lol mine hasnt been out of the garage in 2 years.....shame i used to ride it from when the roads didnt have snow on them until they did regardless of tempature.....coldest ride was -28c.
At least you have a garage, =(
@@clank1013 atleast you have a bike
@@silver_YTfps the start of covid was the best time to ride, so much less traffic in lockdown. And gas was cheaper, I would fill up for $7 now it cost $9
Hey if you're not using it can I erm borrow it for 5-6 months 😔
I swear I'll maintain it and give it back to you in better condition And with with a full tank of gas 😬
Now you have to do a follow up that tells everyone why motorcycles are worth getting into.
It would be one of the shortest videos on UA-cam. "Because you Like Bikes".
The only reason is because you decided that it's worth the risk nothing more nothing less.
That's pretty much the rest of the channel
This channel is basically the answer to that question.
fun. I am more relaxed while on a ride up the coast then about any other time.
For about 3 years my wife and I were a one bike, one car household. She doesn't ride and was working full time so she had the car pretty much every day. I rode everywhere, rain, hail or shine, went to work, the gym and even did my groceries on the bike. It was a great money saver for us.
Bikes do save money. Especially when you do all the work on it yourself. Idk what he is talking about in that regard in this video
I got mine to save on gas and tolls, was about up to 400€ with a very diesel efficient car (BMW 116Ed). Even paying credit for the bike, I'd save about half a month or more. Then the pandemic started before I even had my license, lol, there goes the money saving.
But now my dad has my car (he lives in the UK, but pandemic made him stay here for a year now), so we are a one bike, one POS deadbeat car (2002 Peugeot with more broken stuff than I can count). My GF was already a bike rider before I even had a car license, so now we can divide the bike and the POS car, instead of having just one vehicle to get around with, plus making the POS car last longer by putting less kms in it. My bike being a NC700x with a 52L case, I can fit three full bags of groceries between the met-in and the case.
@@sorayaimperial
I was on a Honda CBR 500R with a 42L top case. Cheap to run, cheap to insure, cheap to service and reliable as taxes. I miss those days.
@@sorayaimperial I rode a Honda Reflex scooter for years with a top case and saddle bags as well as the underseat storage. People would stop and watch me pack my grocery shopping for the week into it. Even had a couple bet that I couldn't fit all my groceries in. I won ;).
Same here
My dog is a much better chick magnet than my motorcycle. I've had maybe two women come up to me on my motorcycle. With my dog, it's literally been hundreds, more so when he was a puppy.
Just buy a new dog when he's not puppy anymore 👍 there's plenty of dog shelter who will change your dog for free😳😳🤑
Try getting a dog that will ride on your motorcycle with you
Noted
just put a saddle on your dog and ride it
yeah girls are obsessed with dogs
Had an old guy stop me in my driveway this morning to talk about his biking days. It's always right after I hit play on my music.
@William Taittinger You have no idea! No idea!
I find being social one of the best reasons to ride. If I didn’t want to speak, just wave and carry on. Simple
WHO listens to music while on bike? Don’t you respect the sound of it or at least focus on traffic?
@@VB_31 I definitely listen to music. It’s part of the entire experience.
@@VB_31 I drive a V-strom, the sound isn't something to write home about. It also prevents tinnitus by breaking up the road noise. It's not like you can't hear horns and sirens. There a big difference between noise cancelling ear buds and internal speakers. I can hear mostly everything around me still. It would be the same difference as playing music in your car. Music also keeps my brain active and alert by keeping me from being tunnel vision from gaping out on long stretches of highway.
Stopped for a coffee over the weekend and a guy about twice my age started chatting to me. Spent about an hour with him talking circuit racing, road racing different bikes, commuting to work and more. Beat sitting there on my own staring at my phone, that’s for sure 👍🏼
Sometimes hen I stare at my phone alone I beat it.
It.
My father is from the silent generation/baby boomer generation, somewhere in between there so I know how to talk to older people. It's easy for me. I'm the millennial gen. I see these new kids and they act so uncomfortable and cringe talking to older folks.
@@theenzoferrari458 My hobbies growing up meant I was always around people much older then me. Speaking to my elders never bothered me in fact I came to prefer it due to the maturity of conversation but also the insight. Respect your elders, kids haha
I came out of a bike store after getting a new jacket and a guy in his 40s started talking to me about bikes. Pretty annoying.
@@rivercityrampage252 especially if it's your day off and ur running errands. If I was on the clock I wouldn't mind. Lol.
Is no one gonna talk about how amazing it was that he did this whole video in a poem format while still presenting his argument. The man is a modern day Shakespeare.
“Tee Shirts with haiku
They’re kind of ridiculous
But I’m wearing one”
Is that why he never sounds like a normal person lol that explains it
Oh that's cool! I didn't notice until you pointed it out. Had to re-listen.
Imagine if he also talked in a Russian accent.
Brilliant!
As an old biker from the '80s who gave up riding when the kids arrived - I have never felt so personally attacked!
Me too.....only I never gave up Riding and still have a bike now that those kids have now grown up!
I started riding as there was no way I could afford to run a car in the 80's and a bike was a cheap form of transport. So much so, that I had a bike as my main form of transport for over 20 years before I even passed the car test and finaly bought one!
You would have had a nice front lawn but those damn kids keep walking on it.. 😁
That “I used to have a Triumph back in the day” guy is so real. He seems to be at every gas station that I happen to fill up at.
Try that riding a boxer bike in the UK. Every dude over 50 feels the compulsion to come over for a chat and tell you about how much they miss their R1100 or similar. I will say that 90% of the time it turns into a decent and pleasant chat, but more often than not you were just stopping for a quick toilet break!
Had the same experience all over Europe. My mate with the shiny new k is always laughing „sure your R80GS is the best he ever had“.
I am nearly that old, fortunately I still have two bikes.
No doubt lol
Ride a Triumph Sprint ST first Gen, all they will think is 'that looks like a bug' when they see the front.
That ending is actually a good reason TO get a bike, you might not get the chicks but you’ll meet lots of friendly folk that want to chat about bikes!
Exactly! There are many ways to attract women bot not many to get into a group of bikers!
And a lot of stories for your grandkids.
I like old shit too so my entire life is this x4 Just try and drive a 1975 Pinto or an 88 GS1150 or a foxbody without everybody coming out of the woodwork lmao.
@@alphastratus6623 If you live long enough to have them and dont lose your jewels. My parents allways start screaming at me when I talk about bikes because they lost many of their friends to them.
@@robiiify Don't drive like a moron, do some safety trainings, and drive like you're invincible.
Save money ❌
Save the planet ❌
Get the girl ❌
Adrenaline addiction ✔️
Mid-life crisis ✔️
Reject parental authority ✔️
Adrenaline addiction, guilty as charged.
@@WELLbethere I hereby sentence you to a lifetime of riding motorcycles without parole. Case closed. :D
Yes. Just got first bike at 40 and it's all about the fun factor
but you could save time on a big city commute
Three terrible reasons. Get a Toyota, sport.
I'm surprised about the saving money part - one of the first things I felt while riding compared to driving a car was less worry about paying for gas or insurance, I go places I would never go in the car because I'd weigh up the cost of a tank of fuel but my bike does 200 miles on $13 so the cost is pretty much removed from the equation when travelling for me. I have to learn how to properly maintain my bike so it doesn't decay too badly sure but that's also a plus - teaching me personal responsibility.
I don't know if that's your case but where I live there are some tolls that don't charge motorcycles, and the ones that do charge half the price
True on motorcycle maintenance teaching you personal responsibility. It's especially true if you didn't get good role modeling for that kind of thing as a kid. Every time I do maintenance on my bike I feel a double sense of satisfaction - getting a job done, and getting myself a little stronger on self-discipline.
that one is specially not true, everything in a motorbike is cheaper, from insurance to licence plates. Plus with the cheapest car you can buy several motorbikes. Theres just no beating it, its cheaper.
@@fuegoeterno3607 it depends on country. Here in Italy, at least in big cities, insuring a bike is twice the cost of insuring a small car
@@Galf506 Interesting, im from argentina, the insurance here is several times cheaper beause you can't buy a full insurance there just isn't one.
Last summer, I had what was actually a really delightful conversation in a grocery store parking lot, with a neat little old dude who looked approximately 112 years old. He asked me if my Oldwing was a 650, and was quite impressed by its 1100 cc’s. “I’ll bet it’ll touch 100 eh!” “It certainly will,” I told him. Then he talked about riding across Spain, and parts of Europe after WW2 on a bike who’s brand he couldn’t recall. Sometimes it’s good to give a few minutes of your life to an old timer; they gave up a lot so I can enjoy this quality of life, and they have some really great stories to share.
My good ole '89 Honda CT200 gets the same reaction from the old farmhands, they go on and on about their old paddock basher bikes and how the Hondas went forever. Always nice to find someone who remembers the days way before my parents ever met like it's just yesterday and get another look at the world through different eyes.
Absolutely. That's part of the joy of it all. I once got stranded in a parking lot on my pacific coast. It was cold, tow truck took forever and a half to get there. But, I started conversations with 4 completely different people. Some who were just curious about the bike, a guy who had a beat-to-hell pickup truck that also wouldn't start. An army veteran and his wife, and a guy who wanted to know what the actual hell my pacific coast was.
I sipped away at my coffee and enjoyed the conversations, it really brightened my day. Eventually I got a friend to pick me up, but that experience reminded me that there's more than one way to have fun with a bike.
Stay safe at there, and be open to new experiences!
@@n.o.b.s.8458 “got stranded on a pacific coast” I call bullshit, haha
@@caryd67 See also "Cack the wonder bike" (advrider forum)
@@n.o.b.s.8458 Eek. I ride to get away from people, not talk to them... But I'm wondering how you managed to break a PC800.
I like the saying that goes "you'll never see a motorcycle parked in front of a psychiatrist's office."
I was debating whether to ride my motorcycle or drive my car to mine the other day. I ended up taking the car. Guess that statement will remain true for now
unless its the psychiatrists bike
@@fausimo They park 'round back.
@@fausimo Every psychiatrist I've met has been to stuck up their own ass to get a motorcycle.
@@Oddman1980 I don't think that's what they meant lol
Good thing you said "North American Market" cause it's a whole different world in most places.
it wont be for long.
@@DieselRamcharger In what way do you mean that? Will the first world countries devolve or the third world countries evolve?
@@kaptein1247 Yes.
@@brianq103 no
You are correct I have hauled a pig a rooster and a dining room table on my Honda beat 115cc in the Philippines.
I can confirm the older people that like to talk. That's how it should be though. Meet people, hear stories and enjoy it all. If it wasn't for the bike you wouldn't have met that person. Everybody be nicer to each other.
I love listening to old bikers tell stories. I am a better rider for listening.
@@jasonswiatkowski9127 Knowledge is priceless. I miss my old man, one of the few people whose opinion I highly value. One hell of an awesome driver too...
yeah if i'm out for a ride I love talking to the old guys that used to have a bike..usually very friendly and we share a common interest..it's a part of what makes motorcycle riding so great..
When you have a bike, other bikers just come up and talk to you. It's a great way to just meet and greet with people that like the same thing.
That's how I became friends with John Wayne Gacy.
I'd talk to you if you were on bike.
The small talk if you happen to stop together at a light is a pleasant change of pace these days. Feels way more connected in a way you'd never get just going from point A to point B in a car
its also a great way to get pinned down in Harbor Freight for an hour when you really shouldnt have stopped there in the first place and your girl is steady texting you (this was yesterday - 3 dudes raving over my rebel 250 ratbike I shit you not - one of them DID put the idea in my head of attaching magnesium strips to cars/bikes to shower out sparks while driving/riding, so it wasnt a total loss)
Says my son, "It's all been done
And someday you're gonna wake up old and gray
So go and try to have some fun
Showing warmth to everyone
You meet and greet and cheat along the way"
Sturgill Simpson
Police: Describe what the motorcycle guy in the video looked like
Me: He was somehow 15 and 45 at the same time
Or they get, “It was an R6 with a burned out headlight” 😂
I’ve actually seen a police BOLO press release that said that. It said we are looking for a black sport bike with a burned out headlight. I wanted to respond, “Well Edmonton Police, you just described almost all sport bikes.”
You just described me, between the ages of 12 & 35.
)Nobody mistakes me for 15 anymore... :(
Ah yes, The Michael Reeves Effect
I got stopped riding my Norton doing about twice the speed limit and the cop was acting tough until the helmet came off and the gray hair came out. He rolled his eyes and went away to write the ticket.
@@schrodingersmechanic7622 my car and all my bikes do that and any bike so far did! They may not be the choice of everyone but i know why i love em
I was going to buy a motorcycle, but then I watched this video... And now I have a motorcycle.
congos bro
My car broke down a couple of months ago, had it at a shop, told my friend how much the repair would cost and he explained to me why that sum was outrageous. So he took me back to the shop, racing the clock and we managed to do a trip of 17 minutes with low traffic in 8.
Got off the bike when we arrived and I was shaking and sick to my stomach.
And now I want one too 😂
The "motorcycle insurance is cheaper" line is absolutely true in the USA for us young unmarried men. I'm 27 with zero accidents on my record. Liability insurance with uninsured motorist coverage costs me around $100 a year instead of $100 a month for the same coverages on literally any four-wheeled road vehicle no matter how safe.
$100 a month is considered dirt cheap up here in the North. $10K+ per year is standard for sportbikes and companies with reasonable rates flat out refuse to insure them.
Be glad you don't have the pay the sky-high ICBC insurance rates like Ry Guy does
Haha 😂 in the Netherlands I was laying 10 euros a month for having a supersport. Moved to a city and now it's about 27 believe
@@guest426 Yikes. Your literally paying for a new bike every year with those premiums!!!!
I pay $150 liability A YEAR, for my 2018 R6 and only like $50 for yearly registration. I was pretty surprised how cheap the rates are. Now if you want full coverage, it's like $120-160 a month, which is still nowhere near 10 grand your quoting. Big yikes.
@@guest426 I pay $65 a month for my R3 up here in the north, and I am 22 with a clean record.
I have cut my screen time down by over 50% because I was wasting time watching UTube videos but I will never stop watching this fabulous Canadian from beautiful British Columbia.
Gave up UA-cam for lent but I couldn't resist fortnine
as a 64 year old with 2 Victory Motorcycles I am now going to be self conscious about talking to other bikers if I am not riding. for about 40 years my motorcycles have always cost more than any car or truck I owned. I am one of those guys always buying accessories, never ran stock pipes, always trying different tires, endless small mods, changing handlebars, custom paint jobs, etc. Since switching from Harleys to Victory in 2004 I have about 160,000 miles on the Victories and about 18 different length Iron Butt certifications. All while living in Alaska, with a very short riding season. Have made a couple trips to Florida.
I am the old guy that always stops when I see a motorcycle and ask about mods, tires, gas mileage, stage 1 kits, always wondering what to try next. Even run a car tire on my crossroads. I have probably annoyed someone watching this video asking questions about their bike.
Too right, as a 63 year old I have been riding since I was 13, done loads of miles, loads of different bikes, raced solos and kneelers, and I make a point of not talking to young riders.
It is ok to be self-conscious. Wait for them to ask. Open up, be friendly, but be ready to duck out. the danger of politeness is that most adults in America have lost the ability to say, "no". Kids are no better.
Greetings from Fairbanks! I'm 71, I got a Honda CB500X three years ago after not riding for nearly 45 years because of a wreck doing crazy sh*t on a bike. Buying that bike was the best thing I've done for myself in decades. I don't do crazy sh*t anymore and my bike is no screamer. But you know what they say: "It is more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike slow." Safe riding.
Ha, you don't need to be self-conscious. The jab in this video was for those crazies who start telling stories to anyone who even looks their way
Ah... shit, the allure of the higher gas mileage for non-hooligan riding was what got me here.
I think longevity of a motorbike highly depends on the motorbike itself and how well it has been maintained and looked after.
When I did my CBT training in the UK, the test centre had Honda CG125’s with 150,000 miles on the clock, driven by learner riders daily. It’s possible for them to last very long but I think careful consideration of the bike, ownership and maintenance from new is essential.
Very true, I own a cg125 myself and it costs all in all £800 for the bike, £500 for insurance and about £7 a week on fuel plus minor maintenance and is the most reliable little run around. Couldn't have made a better decision.
A good friend of mine recently acquired a classic Yamaha Enduro from his late grandfather with less than a 1000 miles on it, original tires, original plates from 50 years ago, etc. The first time he took it out after getting it serviced, I went with him to take photos. Three separate attempted photo locations all were interrupted by elderly men intent on talking my pal's ear off about "the bikes they didn't have."
Nostalgia is a drug!
How tf does it have less than 1000 miles on it???!!!!
HTF could he be so dumb as to ride on 50 y.o. tires !?!?!?!?
@@njpaddler Presumably that issue was resolved during servicing.
@@njpaddler You’re perfectly safe on old tires, so long as you keep speeds down and don’t push corners hard. Tires don’t magically explode when they reach the ‘Best Before’ date!
@@shadow_realm47 I believe it sat in my friend's grandparents' closed hanger about two months after initial purchase.
Damn these are the exact 3 reasons I used to talk my dad into buying me my first bike when I was 16...
your dad thought the "getting chicks" part works?
@@GameCyborgCh it might work for some, but not most. If anything, most chicks would want you to quit riding. Just finding a woman that willing to accept your hobby is already a big win.
@@joemann7971 this only works for the stereotypical super handsome jock
@@joemann7971 my partner just wants to make sure I come home alive haha, otherwise she is accepting of my hobby while at the same time wanting nothing to do with it. That's fine with me, it's good to have independent interests and hobbies.
@@GameCyborgCh If someone gets into riding to "pick up chicks", they are riding for the wrong reasons. But thats the same mentality you see with flashy cars and lifestyles. And you end up attracting the "chicks" you really don't want anything to do with anyway lol
I am an old guy who still rides the bike he owned 30 years ago plus a couple of newer ones. When I get approached by someone talking about once having or wishing they had a bike I turn the conversation around and ask them why they don't ride when life is so short.
I still have my first 'real' bike I got 45 yrs ago... a '76 XLCH which I still ride. First bike was a beat up '70 or '71 Honda CB350 that if I had used my head I would never have purchased from this guy. It wasn't even street legal since it was missing its turn lights! With what I had to spend to make it legal and to fix stuff I could have bought a new bike! But it has been a great adventure and I wouldn't change anything. Least not bike wise! lol
On the topic of "once the kids arrived", I know a lot of guys who rode in their thirties but their wives wouldn't allow them to ride because the kids are small and they were worried he might die. A couple of them started riding immediately once the kids turned 18. Kids are also costly to grow and you won't have a shortage of money sinks.
They dont drive bike, because they want to have longer life :-D
I’m an emergency medicine doctor who has ridden 54 years on over 30 bikes, loved 500,000 miles on 4 continents in all kinds of weather. When one of my patients tries to tell me they’re dangerous, I tell them “most people over 65 consider walking from the bedroom to the kitchen dangerous. I’m going to live the life I love with no regrets.” Fear controls most people’s lives.
@@antoninsebera152 I knew a guy who had a truck and he wrecked and died. Most of the people I know who died did not have motorcycles.
Having a bike to save money in university worked for me, partly. I had a car too, but would remove liability from it during riding season and the bike was half the price to insure. The CBR125 was great on gas in the city, but my Geo Metro actually beat it at highway fuel consumption (and was faster too - a rare thing to say about a Metro). Parking permits on campus were expensive and elusive for cars, but a motorcycle permit was cheap and let you park in more convenient lots (often a widened part of the sidewalk in front of your desired building). Being young and cheap, I skipped much of the riding gear that I now cringe to ride without.
Yeah this pillock clearly doesn't know what he's on about. No one wants to ride a push bike 40 minutes to work when a motorcycle can do it in 10, and cheap at about 80+mpg. Also in my experience I've made friends with women through motorbikes, so thats bollocks. Then emissions, if it uses less fuel then there's more natural resources.
I road a my KLR and saved $2,500 a year. I crunched the numbers to the point where I was comparing tires, brakes, fluids, fuel, and the added cost of gear(along with estimated replacement by time/mileage, Thanks FortNine for that video) 100 miles a day at 45 miles per gallon for 5 days a week, front tire at 10k rear tire chain and sprockets at 20k, clean and lube 2 times a week, factory brakes lasted longer than expected(highway riding) at 20k, did all my own work(I am a mechanic) with the help of my factory service manual.
I completely agree. Besides, I do all my groceries just fine with a top case and luggages and my bike cost me 500 bucks (DL650 from 2005), my father is a mechanic and taught me how to do 90% of the work needed on a bike. Overall, my gear cost me more than the bike itself but still less than getting a car I could restore in the same condition. The bike will last for a while and there's ton of spare parts to make it worth it in the long run. Though, no luck on the chick side of things haha
I have the full SW Motech setup and that is what I used for shopping. Used a soft cooler with ice packs in the summer time here in Texas for cold items.
I think is really depends on what your are expecting to accomplish with your motorcycle, and what kind you are looking at. You are not getting a 650 sport bike and using it like a car, maybe a cruiser. But dual sport bikes are the most versatile for this due to the luggage options, you could do it with other types of motorcycles but dual sports just the aftermarket support with luggage options. I have done 500 mile solo road trips with it.
That $2500 value disappears really quickly when you start talking capability. I would easily pay $2500 to have a 4 wheel vehicle.
I did 600 miles of 50/50 on/off-roading yesterday in my 4Runner. It rained almost the entire time. I can sleep in a vehicle. I can carry way more. I wasn't getting pissed on.
I had a KLR as well. I now have an Africa Twin.
@@someguy5035 I factored that in. I have done 1,000 mile round trip vacation on my KLR. Have you heard of a tent? Also if you are afraid of a little water, how do you bath? Also if I had $2,500 extra for disposable income, and the fact that my car at the time had no cruise control and I have a bad right knee that throbs with pain after holding a gas peddle in one position for more that 10 minutes, I would have been in a car too. But I did not have $2,500 of disposable income, my knee is really bad, and I am not afraid of minor discomfort because I not a wuss.
I agree. I live in Kitchener Ontario, and I got rid of my car. Bicycle for shorter trips and winter, moto for long trips. cars are far more expensive to maintain than bikes.
To be fair I first got a road motorcycle at 16 and can confirm that at high school and first year of university motorcycles do attract young women. However after that "Dating a boy because Daddy will hate him" loses it's appeal thereafter.
That said motorcycling has had an enriching experience on my life, I think. 🙂
Having a passenger ruins the whole experience
@@unaphiliated5090 Having the wrong passenger ruins the whole experience.
Motorcycles are much better for impressing kids, always puts a smile on my face to pass their amazed pointing.
I feel that, I once sat at my exes birthday party with her family and about 4 people tried to convince me to stop riding that day.
In college, people just think you're poor if you arrive with a motorcycle. Even if its a giant ultradecent sporttouring.
Got into motorcycles becuase of my dad. And he said from day 1 this is an expensive kinda dangerous and impractical hobby. Dont think you will get ladies, but you will meet some of the best people this world has to provide.
I am going to pass yr dad's excellent advice on to my son.
All that's been my experience with riding for 7 years now. I'd add that it makes the rider a better person also - more self-disciplined, more practical and no-nonsense in thinking, and more deeply confident overall. Your dad was right, it's kinda dangerous, and fairly expensive, being more expensive the more enthusiasm you have for it. You do meet a better quality of fellow human beings, and on more positive terms. I'd compare it to becoming a dog owner, but on the tougher side of things. As for meeting women, that's a myth. For every woman who thinks you're cool to have a bike, there are ten who think you're (probably) immature, undisciplined, and under-employed. The real disappointment comes when you're just being your friendly self with a woman fellow motorcyclist (in a parking lot or wherever). They're not rude, but they're too wary to talk.
I actually think getting a motorcycle was one of the best financial decisions I ever made. At the time I only had a truck and a bicycle. The truck was annoying cause I could never find street parking, so I just kept it at home where the battery would repeatedly die on me cause I never drove it. Meanwhile I still had to pay something like $100/mo on insurance. The bike cost more like $30/mo to insure and it did end up lasting me nearly 10 years/(30k miles). It was really useful for the kinds of trips I just never could have made on a bike in a reasonable amount of time. The gas consumption was decent, though not as good as good as it should have been given how much smaller it was compared to a car (no wind tunnel tested body?). Maintenance was pretty cheap too. Unlike a car, there really wasn’t much on the motorcycle I couldn’t figure out how to fix myself.
@@michaelsanchez8519 Right? I got like 7k in 6 months and I just commute pretty much
@whiteAfrikkkanNun I really couldn't disagree more. Try ripping the engine out of a v8 truck.... chances are you can't, don't have a crane to lift the damn thing. I sure as fuck don't.
On a motorcycle? Chances are you could lift the engine by hand.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun your argument fell apart and so you react with extreme anger. Congratulations, you've reduced your argument to people who own tractors. I'm sure that's widely applicable.
@whiteAfrikkkanNun No, you speak for yourself. You literally just acknowledged you're speaking from a place of privilege. That other person COMPLETELY has a point and just because your panties are up in a twist doesn't mean they're wrong. It's a PRIVILEGE to be able to work on your engine, even being taught how to do so and being able to use cranes are a privilege. So while you are right that he can work on his truck, the other person is also right about it being a privilege to work on your v8 engine to begin with.
Stop being so mad
@whiteAfrikkkanNun Because you get to spend money on that instead of forking it over to your insurances, mortgages, studen loans, etc. Yeah getting to work to play with your toys is a privilege, working to survive is just something everyone has to do though. The moment you get to have any control over what you WANT instead of just what you NEED then you are at a privileged point.
2:22 ‘motorcycles attract more men than women’
i see this as an absolute win xD
That's suspicious.......
geh or woman?
Yeah ppl say this but I kinda disagree, women just aren't going to come up to you and ask about your bike like a guy will but that doesn't mean they don't peep it. Ofc it's not like that'll make a huge difference in having a chance with them but ultimately it makes you more interesting which means you'll be slightly more attractive to them.
U R Geh
I'm a woman. I agree.
Spoken like a true man. "I'll do more in three minutes than you'll expect over the next thirty years."
I was like, "wait... I haven't seen this video of F9 before? Oh, it was uploaded 2 minutes ago. Nice!"
First bike I got was a Suzuki TC125. A true barn find, back in the 80s before "barn find" was a thing. I was a poor kid who had to learn how everything worked so I could get it working. No google, didn't know such things as workshop manuals existed and probably wouldn't find anything but confused blank stares if I asked at my small town's library.
Got her going and kept her going for years. She's still in my garage although she needs more TLC than I can give at present.
She set me up for maintaining vehicles, especially bikes. My other bikes have all gotten well into the 6 figure mark and all in good condition. Only one, a mid-80s Shadow, needed anything significant prematurely, and that was new rings in the first weeks after I got it at around 60,000miles. I have no idea how the PO got them worn without other damage.
It's nothing for cruisers to get into 6 figures if they're maintained. If a car's not maintained it won't get there either. I've seen a number of bikes like litre+ CBR's happily get into 6 figures, even with things like ceasing timing chain tensioners.
Admittedly my experience is mainly with Honda and Suzuki, and other jab brands. But I cannot see why, unless a bike is thrashed and mistreated it won't last quite a long time.
With the price of petrol over here, bikes are far cheaper than cars to run, even factoring in all purchase price, gear, maintenance and registration costs! Of course, lane splitting vs sitting in traffic helps a hell of a lot. As does 1/3rd the engine size hauling less than 1/4 of the weight.
"Its cheap, its fun, it goes places cars cant" -me
its not cheap lol
@@NakiriX1 mm yes my $1500 motorcycle that will outrun most cars isnt cheap
@@thatjokerperson7062 youre not an actual rider if you really think just 1500 bucks, stock, no 2. bike is really enough.... also, your bike must be janky asf
@@thatjokerperson7062 let me also add other expenses such as tyres, fuel, equipment, mods, maybe paint, oh and more fuel.
@@NakiriX1 you must not be a rider if youre hating on what others own
As a guy with a Triumph, I can 10000% agree with the old dudes coming up and waxing nostalgic about the Triumph they had back in the day!
Nice Ducati Zero compliments - triumph Bonneville T100, every person everywhere, because it’s a sweet fucking bike
Try a Moto Guzzi.
This is so true!
@@GreenMntMoto When you have a well know high end brand, it will only attract women who thinks it is expensive. You know the type. But a T100, eye popping!
There is an old dude round the corner who on a rainy day opens his garage to show off his motorcycle collection, on a sunny day he wheels them out on to his drive. I think in the hope someone will stop and talk to him. I really should stop and talk to him.
I bought my first bike 2008. I wanted to save on gas cause i had no money. Today i still ride to save a little money, but now its more because i love the feeling of absolute calculated risk of freedom
Bikes are actually significantly cheaper in the UK especially for youngsters. I ran a bike every day of the year for years, never had a car - just made it work (like most developing asian countries do). Everyone else was bitching they couldn't afford to save, to buy a house etc.
Same £900 bandit 600 parked out in the elements 365 and ridden in temps as low as -10c parked up next to £20,000 cars driven by people my age bitching they can't afford to buy a house.
Yeah man that extra 11k you saved is enough to buy a house...
@@lazthegreat10 what is math anyways
@@lazthegreat10 x5 that money and you can buy a decent house here in my country
@@lazthegreat10 Bruh that's nearly a full year of wages for most folks, and a deposit of ~10k is enough to be accepted for a 2 bed starter home mortgage.
I bought a brand new bike I actually liked for ~2K, meanwhile the cheapest crappy 2 door car is ~15k. You are also missing the hidden cost of finance, most folk finance cars but just outright buy a bike. For used vehicles that gap is even better as most cars have a huge amount of mileage and issues on them to get cheaper. Also MPG is often double on a bike and all you need is CBT. It's 100% more economical.
In the UK bikes are just flat out cheap and border line free.
My bandit I run all year around , my ktm net me 18k savings letting me up my life and go, public transport and cars would both have been a lot lot more expensive.
60 is *ancient* ? Hahaha... I'm 67 and ride a sport touring bike that'll get me into the felony zone in less than 4 seconds, and answer questions from younger riders who approach me most often. I tell them to escape their day jobs asap and do some touring because it is truly the spice of life. 😎
I get to do the touring because of my day job. Occasionally, I even get to take my bike.
so, you're exactly like the video says...and nothing to be ashamed off. keep on riding.
Keep riding 👍👍
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@@HPCAT88 Yep Senf, and glad I am. The 60s and 70s era was a great time to be alive. Good music, hot women galore, and much more unregulated freedom than you have today.
To the environmental aspect: I ride my motorcycle purely for fun at times, I would never go out of my way to drive my car for no reason.
In Taiwan motorcycles r like cars to them they have to use it for everything
To the environmental aspect: Bikes are also very fun to ride, and good for your health too
In Europe the environmental aspect is slightly more true I'd say tho, you don't stop moving when traffic gets congested bc we're allowed to filter through traffic in specific conditions so in the end you burn less gas idk
@Jun Zhi Xue ofc public transport or a bicycle would still beat it, maybe less unburnt gas would be exhausted tho
@@SwainixFPV the quality of exhaust is just so much worse for bikes in the day to day, that it does not make a difference. If you'd go for similar emissions quality as in a car, the bike would be a dog to ride.
I swear this is the best channel on UA-cam. The wit, sarcasm and observations are fabulous!
Bro i like watching thos guy and i dont even care about bikes at all
I've been watching for a year and a half he's awesome!
Went for a walk downtown, saw a guy with a helmet, started chatting, came along very well. Turns out that he is a pilot for small aircraft. Now we are planning to do a little trip!
I love motorcycle riders🤗
Fortnine: uploads
Me: a blessing from the lord
Amen
The three percent 😂😂😂
HES THE MESSIAH!
Lord Ryan, I hope.
"But a motorcycle with 6 figures on the clock will be absolutely shot"
Laughs in BMW with 150k on the odo
But yeah really depends on the bike and how you drive it. A bike designed to be used a daily will rack up a lot of highway miles and keep doing that a loooooong time.
Shot? I sold my 07 R1200RT with 186,000km and it still ran like new : )
I have a motorcycle as a woman, and dudes my age dont even talk to me so I can relate! Its the older guys like the video coming up and asking the year of my bike and telling me they used to ride lol
but isnt it better like this?
women often get annoyed at random dudes talking to them for no reason
i ride a bicycle and in my parents home city i often get called by kids and brats who want to know if i want to sell mine and it's annoying really
when i started riding my bike, i get tailed by one motorcyclist who talked me while riding in a curve and it was dangerous asking about where i bought it and what price
Last month I had just gassed up and stretching and relaxing before continuing home. A young lady on a sport bike stopped for gas. I'm at least 25 years older and said, "Nice day for a ride."
She gave me a sour look and said, "Leave me alone." I backed off, walked to the next pump island, donned helmet and gloves, fired up Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic and putted away.
Funny thing I saw her waive in my rear view mirror. Too bad.
Pretty much been taught to leave random women on the street alone because the act of speaking to them while male makes them uncomfortable.
@@mongosafariadventure she assumed that everyone who says hi to her gonna start some lame convo and try to hit on her
i can relate, when it comes to kids asking if i want to sell my bicycle or younger guys asking if i want to sell my motorcycle
but i if they ask for info about my motorcycle i feel happy to talk, just annoyed how everyone assume you want to sell it
i think girls get asked too much or flirted on too much that it rubs them the wrong way
I don’t ever talk to biker girls beyond basic biker interactions because I figure they get a lot of that already, lol
I got a motorcycle in part to save money. It worked out super well! $2800 bike, $100 a year liability insurance, and about $4-8 in gasoline a week (going to school, work, social gatherings, and the odd grocery trip here and there). That was 7 years ago, and while I've also had to put in a few hundred in maintenance, and probably about $2,500 in gear (cost of two full set of gear, my beginner and more premium gear), I've saved quite a lot of money. No regrets.
If I only had $1 for every old guy (older than me) that comes up to me talking about the bike he ‘used to have’ or the friend/relative that was killed/injured on one.
I'd have been rich 35 years ago if I had $1 every time I heard "You're gonna kill yourself on that thing."
...now that I'm old, no one says that to me any more.
You'd have about $50?
@@Ijusthopeitsquick Clearly, you haven't been riding long.
Usually it is the old ladies telling me I'm gonna kill myself on it, and their husbands mumbling something about how he misses the bike he sold when he met her.
If honest, if I had $1 for every old guy that has come up to me over the years.... I might have 10 or 11 bucks. It really isn't the epidemic everyone in the comments seems to be making of it.
That said, I am pretty much anti-social, so anyone walking up to me while I am minding my business, getting ready to roll, is a pain. I'll entertain it for a moment and then just tell them straight up that I have to get going.
When you realize that the white bearded old man is you. 💪😔
I got a bike as my daily because I had dirt bike experience and it's all I could afford. Years later and I could afford a car but I just ended up switching from sport bike to adv for comfort and capability. Driving a cage feels like something I have to do while riding is something I get to do. Be safe everyone!
Exactly. Make your trips an experience, not a chore.
Btw I also ride adv, so that's a cool choice imo
@cedrick I'm a motorcycle guy, a car guy and a truck guy, and I'll tell you that any motorcycle, even small displacement ones are fun to ride. Where as with cars, only sporty cars are fun to drive. Trucks and body-on-frame SUVs are usually boring but they can be very fun if you off-road them or go overlanding but they are sooo much more expensive than a dual sport or ADV bike for that purpose. Motorcycles are the most fun for the money in my opinion.
My first way to get around was a motercycle, I have been riding through rain and snow, constintly finding ways to make it work till I couldn't anymore. I have been hit twice, I am part metal. I have wrecked countless times on my own. Too many to count. Yet still here I am, trying to put life back into my motercycle
Ryan: motorcycles are build to go fast and not last
Yamaha XT:...And I took that personally
then they just ramp up the prices on the newer models meanwhile the older models are still kicking around for half the price
1975 CB 750s, 350s, 200s and even 125s are still rolling and many look and ride like they did in 1978 with a couple years of use. GL500s and up seem to last forever.
Insurance is dollars a month on those basic riders too, often less than 10. Mine is $5.50 a month basic liability and comp, since the bike is so old they would only hand me $1000 if I totalled it...no collision.
Maybe it's because my father raised me on motorcycles but I feel deep, profound joy even just from sitting on a bike and feeling the cool metal of the gas tank beneath my fingers, the mechanical click of the key turning the ignition. I can't imagine life without being able to go on a ride at least once in a while
Glad I’m not the only one
One of the reasons I bought a motorcycle was to sabe money, on the daily commute... So far it has been working out fine!
I save money and time (I can arrive home almost one hour earlier before having my CB)
I cut mine from 25min to 15min 😇
That lane splitting used to save me a ton of time. Not sure it every did save me money though because I paid a lot more for my motorcycle than I did for my reliable old Honda commuter.
If you buy specific bikes, you can save money, especially if you cut your car insurance a bit. Just don't expect to on a $40,000 Harley or a Ducati or whatever. A CB is a perfect commuter bike.
@@PaulGuy I have a 2019 CB300R.
Insurance is 88€ anually
It doesn't pay anual vehicle tax (in Portugal, below 350cc you are exempt)
Dealer anual maintenance is 65€
I was a heavy rider in my younger years, putting almost 100k on a CX500... I loved riding! After a couple crashes, becoming a paramedic, working many NASTY crashes where the motorcycle wasn't at fault, I'm actually terrified to ride a motorcycle at this point in my life.
@Socucius Ergalla Unfortunately, no I have not. I count myself lucky to see someone wearing a helmet. The airbag collars and suits do look promising and I am curious as to how well they protect as well.
I dont even ride bikes, I might not ever (although this channel is slowly changing that), but I appreciate how this channel gets critical of its own hobby/lifestyle. Cool sweater too.
Just do/try it! :-)
He's being realistic.. which I appreciate. If I could i'd own every form of transportation on the planet but $$ and space. I currently use a bicycle, e-bike and car (for distance and cargo).. I could do a motorcycle again but can't justify the insurance. Depending on your circumstances I'd suggest at least giving a motorcycle a try, it's still the best option for stretching gas vs distance and unlike a car it really connects you to the world around where you drive, and of course that feeling of freedom and speed.
Amazing content as always, please continue the excellent filmography and quality advice because your reach extends far further than motorcycles
"Transaction type: RAPE" I can't believe you guys snuck that one in there, absolute gold
@0:34 also **VIN:** ITS@HONDAFORF*CKS5AK3 lol
And of course the Document Number: "8008135MMM" lmao
The whole document from "The Insurance Communists of British Columbia" is a laugh.
Have a closer look.....
Man, how do you guys catch those details!?👍
I disagree with that first point. I got into riding because i simply couldn't afford a car at the time and a bicycle was inadequate for my 40 mile commute. I got a really good deal on a cheap bike and it lasted me well through college until i could afford a decent car. A $500 car will absolutely strand you and/or get you fired, but there abound $500 motorcycles that will get you to and from work/school. add a $30 jacket and a $50 helmet plus negligible insurance/ registration and you have a very low barrier for those below the poverty line. Sure i got wet a lot and rarely had any fun, but was able to improve my life and stay out of debt on 2 wheels.
I can not make eye contact at the gas station when I ride the Goldwing 1800 that Ryan made me buy..
A motorcycle will put a smile on your face, and that my fellas is priceless. :)
Great vid as always Ryan, love the blend of long full blown documentaries, mixed with the little skits like this
Motorcycles are guaranteed to give you the most smiles per gallon.
Yeah, I get stopped at gas stations all the time by guys wanting to talk about the bikes they used to ride.
I had one girl interact with me because of the bike - it was at 90mph on the highway, and she accelerated beside me and beckoned for me to follow her. It was also my very first day on said bike (2020 Superduke GT), and I was seconds away from my exit to go back home to my wife.
Truthfully, the girl probably just wanted to talk to me about my car's extended warranty, so I don't know if the story even counts.
So good, amazing.. I was surrounded yesterday by an older gentleman telling me stories about his old Bonneville bike! Perfect timing watching this.
I got a 2015 T100 black,, it's an old man magnet (I'm 60) very old man magnet
For 6 to 7 months a year my bike provides me with; entertainment, enjoyment and stress relief. Well worth it.
With the right gear it would become 365 days a year.
That’s what snowmobiles are for
These videos are getting shorter and shorter. They are still interesting, and the production quality is still fantastic, but we need a big fix.
Yeah, I hope this was just a small "Fix" of Fortnine goodness, and something more substantial is on the way. It's brilliant, but your own sky-high standards are biting your canadian bacon. We want more! :) (and yeah, I'll never get one - but I'd love your take on the PanAmerica too - but basically I'd watch you talking about which shoelaces to buy for 20 minutes, and still be happy!)
you need rehab... actually we all do.
I feel like I'm getting tapered off of narcotics
Wait till you get a Royal Enfield twin. You'll still have old guys coming up and telling you they had a Triumph just like yours 😄
I had a 2002 RE 500 Single. I had cabbies jumping out their cars to come tell me that they had a bike like this back in India. LOL
My brother bought a 2019 GT650 after a demo ride, that thing gets all the attention.
I just bought an '09 500 bullet with fuel injection and my grandfather bought a black one from the same guy.
@@RandomGuyDan back in India 2002. Lmao.
Seriously, your videos are brilliant, the format, the editing, the scripting, the comedy... Can't fault this channel
Went 6 years in Korea with only a CB400SF. Best years of my life.
You chose well.
The traditional CB series defies the statements of excessive money pit and impractical.
at nearly 62, still very active in the saddle riding my '81 GL1100 Goldwing & '97 GL1500C Valkyrie in all weathers...
The old man bit is so accurate
Shut up.... from a 57 year old
same thing with retro cars, speaking from experiens lol
Yeah, I'm that guy.
Damn, I hit all three of these... But for real, I'm young, I live in a rural environment, I'm eco-conscious, I'm poor and I'm a lonely lesbian. All that being said, I bought my first bike second hand super cheap from a guy who was moving away and couldn't use it any more, it was poorly maintained and I've sunk almost three times as much as I paid for it into bringing it back to it's former glory. I may have wanted a bike for all the reasons this video says not to, but I always think back to watching my dad put together an old 125 in the back garden when I was young. I think about the motorbike road racing that takes over my country for two weeks ever year, I think about the freedom and the thrill that comes with riding and the responsibility I have when in the saddle. I think about how in looking to ride myself I was able to give riding back to my dad and how we can ride together now and about the stronger relationship we've been able to build because of it. So even if it's marginally cheaper, even if ecologically it's not as bad as a car but still not great, even if I never meet my future partner through riding well... I'm still going to ride, because I want to and in retrospect I've always wanted too. Whatever your reason when you start out, if you enjoy it, if you want to do it, you'll find any reason to keep on going.
I can think of 1 situation where the "save money" approach actually held up: My first bike, a 1972 CZ 175 sport. It was basically ugly, although somehow quaintly "adorable" (Well, to me, anyways), would only breach the 50mph "wall" if you threw it off a cliff (Had a friend with a tricked up moped that was just as fast....mine could brake though, and the insurance was valid) and was admittedly a rather clunky ride. On the other hand I got it for less than what my 50cc moped I upgraded from sold for ready to ride, it did about 70mpg no sweat (Which was a fair achievement for a cheap used vehicle back in the 80's), I could maintain and actually pretty much overhaul it with a bare minimum of tools, it proved nearly impossible for me to destroy (forgot oil in the gas once, had 3 crashes etc. - last crash was a total though ,rammed it into the front of a suddenly left turning car - the car drivers insurance did pay me back about twice my cost of the bike plus the personal injury part - plus I got to keep the wreck for parts), and when it did require a few parts they cost literally pocket money. DEFINITELY not a bike that would increase your luck with the ladies nor would you get ANY sort of bragging rights out of it, but that was not the point. What it did was increase my reasonable "distance from home range" quite a bit, maybe about 3 times, compared to a bicycle or my moped, when kept legal. Yes, the bus could have helped with that too, but at a much higher cost in travel time. The final piece in the puzzle was insurance cost. As an 18-year old in Denmark, there was no way i would be able to pay less than the equivalent of 1500-2000$ a year to ensure a car, but the CZ I could ensure for about 100$, even without any seniority or doing tricks like having my parents ensure it for me, and a few years later I could also transfer earned seniority to my first car ensurance (wouldn't have worked from car to MC, though). For gear, i rode in my moped helmet , a pair of old well waxed leather boots and a waterproof thermo boiler suit i also already had. Not ideal, but worked out just fine. So for me it, all in all, it was a moneysaving solution. But the combination of a fair bit of luck and the rather all-in "No nonsense" approach to brutally keeping costs down was definitely central parts to make it happen. It's not for those fond of looking cool or craving an awful lot in the way of comfort. Had a ton of fun on it, though, and really learned a lot about motorcycling in a comparatively safe way, that I really have appreciated later on.
My first reason and the best of all is long distance motorcycle trips. Nothing compares!
Time, it’s save me time. 90 mins a day saved cutting through rush hour traffic, 25 days a month, gives me real home time with the family. Oh, and I look monster cool on my GSA 🤔
Great in countries where you can filter 👍
True. My commute in LA on a motorcycle was 1/3 the time on the bike vs a car and 1/4 of the time vs a bus. And I got free parking in an expensive parking area.
However, it had limits. I remember one day being up on a Malibu beach with friends. I got back to my bike at the same time my roommate got to his car. Pretty heavy traffic. I split lanes pretty aggressively coming back West LA. I only beat my buddy home by 20 minutes (took him 1 hour). When you factor in the time it took me to suit up for the ride, the stress of the ride in that traffic, and the added danger from traveling that way, I probably would have been better off in an air conditioned car listening to music and talking with friends.
But what if you live in a smaller city like me? We got almost no rush hour traffic here.
Same here in Istanbul, my motorcycle saves me 12 days a year. (I mean before Covid-19, now I work from home...)
This! Spent years sitting in traffic commuting to work and back. Got a motorcycle (it's legal to filter where I live) and it's given me back an hour of my day. And I love riding my bike which also makes a difference. With the car, I'd get in, sigh, and drive to work. With the bike, i'm happy to walk out to the garage and hop on even though I know I'm going to work at least the trip there will be fun.
Always have the old guys talking about theirs stories. Love them…instant connection with the world..that is a great benefit of riding. Always get better connection on a bike then with a car!
SMILE, when you say "old guy".
Pretty sure I have a VHS tape from like 1986 about skateboarding that shows of that amazing bowl featured in this video.
Edit: yup, it was called Radical Moves and featured some skating by Rodney Mullen and Tony Hawk 😁
Theres a movie called gleaming the cube which had rodney mullen doing stunts..its worth a google
@@scaredofghosts6813 I know that one, with Christian Slater.
I hope you can get your hands on a Pan America! Id love to see your thoughts on Harley’s push into a new market
Careful picking on us old guys. Been riding my KLR through South America for the last 5 years and well north of 60. Riding for over 50 years. Really great video. You have talent. Let me tell you about my Kawi 900 Z1b when they first came out. LOL
Won't work unfortunately.... not enough harley riders who know how to ride
@@seanbirtwistle649 That’s the entire point of them building an ADV bike. They are trying to attract an entirely different type of rider from their usual customer.
@@TripleHelixed buell had a shot when super sports were still cool. Porsche even made them an engine to go fast...er. I say good luck. Too many dentists and lawyers wanting people to think they're sons of anarchy once or twice a year
@@seanbirtwistle649 There are definitely some people that still want cruisers but it’s not enough. Harley has been bleeding for a little while now. Ryan made a great video on it
Ok.. I'll be the idiot who says "but Ryan, my Goldwing has 500,000 miles!" 🤣
Ikr? My last ST1100 got to 200 000km without any problems until a smartphone-staring soccer mom parked her minivan halfway up my topcase.
But it is a Goldwing! Those are made for going forever!
A Goldwing is about 75% of a car though.
@@ZebSmithulon
Here comes the peanut gallery!
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f It's half a joke and half truth. When saving weight isn't a primary concern, you can make things larger and more robust.
I live in VA and I work in DC. By car, it takes me 45 min to get to work, on my Tracer GT 12 minutes (Bikes can go on HOV/Easy Pass lanes for free). So yes, it saves me money, time, it helps the environment, and IT'S FUN!
During the summer here in the California Bay area. For years I would get off working overtime at 12:00 noon on Saturday and head home 30 miles to Santa Cruz. Beach traffic back up on the only Mountain Highway would mean 3 hours by car or 50 minutes by motorcycle splitting traffic (legal in Ca.). Which would you chose?
As a former 865cc Bonneville owner, I would have appreciated a trigger warning for that ending.
But Ryan, I like chatting with the older heads about motorcycles. They’re the only ones who understand my love of carbs
Yeah....that is madness...you ever sync 6carbs? Fk that, fuel injection is great!
@@L4ND.SH4RK to each their own I guess. But I do agree it’s a lot more maintenance
@@L4ND.SH4RK Worst I've had to do was the two carbs on my VS1400. One was a downdraft, one a side draft. The idle speed was adjusted on the rear carb, which turned a cable that adjusted the front carb's idle speed. There wasn't a vacuum port on either carburetor. You pretty much had to adjust it by ear.
I went out today in the sunshine ☀ on my bike after months of lockdown in the uk 🇬🇧
And I'm still smiling from it 4 hours later..
That's why.............. 😁
I was thinking about getting a CB125F for my daily commute to save on gas, then I remembered I have to buy the all the kit. So now I'll just buy it because I want it and not give excuses 😎
My gs500f feels like it saved me a lot of money. Cheap insurance, 55 mpg. Maintenance and parts were a pain but it served as a daily for 7+ years
Girls when they see you have a motorcycle:
1% of the time: Hey, maybe he isn't as boring as I thought...
9% of the time: He's probably obsessed with it and will be badly injured soon enough. Not attractive!
90% of the time: He has a motorcycle? I couldn't care less.
Seems about right
Best pick up line ever, “wanna go for a ride?” You wouldn’t want to mess with the ones who say “no”.
As a woman I can say: this ratio is bs xD
@@Xx_Cherub_xX As a woman who's watching s motorcycle video, I'm sure you're the exception
@@B10401 fair enough
I was seriously thinking to buy myself a motorcycle because it is much more convenient where I live. But then I became a father..... Well, at least I can enjoy FortNine videos for artistic value. Seriously man, your script and editing is among the best on UA-cam.
Two "seriouslys".
Are you serious??
Would love to see a video on suspension... Finding the right shocks for the kind of ride you want can be very tricky and unclear what and why shocks perform the way they do given various parameters....
peak content, and i'm not even a motorcycle guy.
IKR??!!
I feel the same way when I watch BJJ channels, and I don't even do any martial arts... well, I do play hockey, so.
The quality of these videos is outstanding
I’ve ridden to relax for over 50 years and I’m lucky to be alive.
But how much more alive you've been even if you may have died in the process!
@@MozzaBurger88 Agreed
Reason number one definitely caught me off guard when I first started 😅
Now I just embrace the expensive and inconvenient but supremely enjoyable motorcycle lifestyle 🤣
ICBC part is spot on.
大师球~捕获大佬
One day we are going to find out who ICBC is sleeping with. Why cant we have more private insurance companys to compete with eatch other to lower the rates ?
@@savagex466-qt1io Having lived in both Ontario and Quebec, trust me, you don't want privatized insurance. Insurance rates are much higher in provinces with privatized insurance systems because the insurance companies are accountable only to their bottom line. For example, I have friends in BC who have multiple cars, including classics and sports cars, and they pay significantly less than I do for a single car here in QC. We are all about the same age and have clean driving records. To expound, Ontario is fully privatized, whereas Quebec is semi-privatized...Here in QC, we pay for our public liability insurance as part of our vehicle registration fees, but still have to carry a rider from an insurance company for the rest. The result of even a partial public offset makes insurance in Quebec, significantly lower than in Ontario, though not as low as in BC. In short, the theoretical "competition" benefit of privatization is completely undone by deregulating the costs. Yes, here, insurance companies have to compete, but they know they can all charge much, much higher rates.
@@adam4kq You wrote me a letter. I read it all. Thanks for your time. Well said. Ya its just people are fed up with ICBC its there way or no highway lol How come USA has such cheap insurance ? They are private ?
@@savagex466-qt1io Thanks for the compliment. I have virtually no knowledge on how the insurance systems work in the United States, so I can't speak to that. Cheers!
Let's see how many of these I fell for a few years ago when I started riding... Probably all of them
I don’t know, I like having a car and motorcycle. Always gives me a backup if one has mechanical problems. Car needs to go in for service? I’ll rough it and ride in the rain.
"save money"
unless you're a courier. went from buying 4gal a day in my reasonable focus to half a gallon. 8x savings (in monetary terms, 8172 a year to around 1021 a year)
H&R insurance went from 6k/y third party only to 1k/y fully comp. 6x savings. that alone is a used busa and a grand change
sure my maintenance cost went from 200/year to 1200/year, but remember ive saved a busa on the insurance!
all in all, saving approximately 11k a year!