Werewolf: the Apocalypse - Who's Who - Samuel "Sam" Haight
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- The Ultimate Badass of the World of Darkness, Sam Haight, is a name spoken with reverence around the world. This man not only overcame the will of Gaia herself and turned himself into a Garou, he also managed to become a powerful Ghoul, Hedge-wizard turned Mage and an Ashtray while doing so!
Join me as we delve into the somewhat outrageous backstory of one of the World of Darkness' most iconic bad guys!
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Lore sources:
Valkenburg Foundation
Storyteller's Guide to the Sabbat
Rage Across the Amazon
The Chaos Factor
The Book of Chantries
The Book of Legions
Skinner
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I kid you not kinfolk, Samuel Haight was turned into an ashtray. He was known as Ashtray Sam. Funniest shit I've ever heard.
That gets an explicit callout in the video! Sam's journey takes so many twists and turns that it's dizzying!
@@papadaddio866 It does, but Jared's referencing this :P
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He came back.
Yes, the NPC embodiment of how many things could I stack
I distinctly recall a conversation with the devs on the old white wolf forum, where they said Sam was never meant to be taken seriously and he was essentially a spoof on all those players who wants to combo all the 'races' together in order to create the ultimate bad ass. So they basically did that, made him into an asshole and gave him a very inglorious ending.
Looking back on my old books... none of the Sam Haigh centric supplement were really good either.
"The Chaos Factor" (or as I like to call it. "Samuel Haight Must Die") is a fun one to read, at least. Less so to actually run as a chronicle. Too thoroughly railroaded, like all of the other "scenarios" White Wolf made for the old editions.
I think devs during creation history of such imbalanced person, had a lot of satisfaction 🤗
His story is purposefully ridiculous, but "kinfolk who decides to take up arms and fight the wyrm on it's own terms" is a great character for a Hunter.
Splat mixes like this can actually be fun to play, but kind of have to be retired at a certain point. I've actually done a kinfolk mage in a werewolf game and, on the surface, he mechanically worked a little like Sam Haight, but, because of the way character progression works, he was usually kind of an underpowered screwup for most of the game, continually striving for parity and acceptance before having his "ugly duckling" moment right at the end, rather than an overpowered Mary Sue.
His backstory was, similarly to Haight, that he was a kinfolk aware of the Garou who dreamed of becoming one, but he had an awakened avatar, so when he awakened, this manifested as what appeared to be a First Change. He believed he was Garou and since his change was witnessed by other Garou, and his aura and scent seemed to indicate he had gone through the change, he was accepted, but he couldn't shift fully anymore after that. He started with 3 spirit and 2 life (he really couldn't start any other way if we wanted him to smell and feel like a Garou. You could go 2 Spirit and 3 Life but I needed to be able to step sideways for this game), so he could step sideways, communicate with spirits, use moon bridges and appropriate gifts, experience heightened senses and grow claws and lengthened canines and the like, but couldn't fully shift into any form, even Glabro, regenerate health as effectively, or use a bunch of other abilities that should be second nature to him. He was basically seen as a disabled Garou with some sort of unknown developmental issue. He wasn't allergic to silver for some reason and he could sometimes use gifts from outside his auspice and tribe (though he would also fail to learn basic gifts and not understand why), but he also sucked at most of the things Garou are naturally good at.
Throughout the course of the game, as I would develop his spheres, he slowly became able to do more Garou things but, since he didn't know he was a mage, there was a strict rule that he couldn't do anything a Garou couldn't do. No dynamic magic, just werewolf abilities and gifts learned from spirits. It was magic under the hood, and we had to consider out of game if he had the appropriate sphere knowledge to actually perform a gift he might learn, but he didn't know that. Since he was kinfolk and both believed himself to be Garou and carried their blood, anything he did was "coincidental magic", so long as it was a Garou ability, and so paradox rules didn't need to be worried about and we could stick mostly to the Werewolf rule set.
If anyone is curious, to have a kinfolk mage that can convincingly pass as a werewolf, at least as we interpreted the rules, you need: 5 Life (to seamlessly transform at will and get your instahealing and stat increases), 3 Spirit (to step sideways and interact with spirits), 3 Mind (to be able to communicate in wolf form and for Crinos form to induce delirium), 3 Prime (to be capable of perceiving and drawing gnosis and to be able to do aggravated damage in Crinos form), 3 Time (to be able to get extra moves in combat), and 3 Matter (if you want to be able to attune clothing and not always be naked when you shift back). So there is a pretty substantial investment before you are on par with the rest of your team mates. While everyone else is developing all sorts of different skills and attributes, pretty much every drop of experience you get ends up having to go into becoming a better Garou. Also, since you have to invest so much into just being able to do the baseline things all Garou can, certain gifts are forever out of your grasp, since you can only learn gifts whose use can be justified via the above spheres because there isn't a lot of leeway to invest in others, especially if you want to have /any/ experience left to invest in skills and attributes.
Once I got to a point of relative parity, our ST let me sit in that place for a minute, finally able to fully contribute and do all the Werewolf things for a few scenes, and then sort of shifted us into the endgame of the chronicle with revelations that were different for every character, but for me was finally meeting a Verbena witch who showed me what I was. Everyone got a decent power boost at this time, getting unique gifts or powerful fetishes, and I got to finally start using dynamic magic for a couple of investigative scenes and the final battle. It was, all in all, one of the most fun campaigns I've ever played, but there is no bringing that character back. Once you have a fully self aware mage who has developed their ability to the point that they can replicate Garou abilities perfectly with a "get out of paradox free" card where they are concerned and also do all the other things that come with that degree of sphere mastery, you are rapidly approaching Mary Sue territory and it's time for this character to be retired. The journey to getting there, on the other hand, can be a lot of fun.
What an amazing and fun idea
This guy was the epitome of "what can I put on a character, to piss everyone off, and still be too ridiculous to take serious".
He's the Sam Hyde of oWoD
"he can't keep getting away with it"
SELF DEFENSE SITUATION
And he didn’t!
"Ah Mr. Haight. I would pity him as a lost astray garou if not for him tampering and mixing with the other supernaturals and in his own self sense of ego. Attempted to become something he was never meant to be. I suppose I do pity him still, enough pity to end his life with a bullet or steel, just like he has done to many before him. Well in the end, he learned the greatest knowledge of all. The Wyrm consumes all in time." - A Blackspiral Dancer.
I recall his presence in some of the few Werewolf games I played in, man he was a force of nature and a big source of hatred for the pack... a real menace.
One of the best written characters in all of WoD
In my day, people *hated* him
@@nasir6r996 in my day too brother, been playing since 96, never understood the hate. Yea he’s OP as fuck, but then again most of the known characters in the meta are.
@Jimmy Jazz I know, but I was still a fan. For me I understood why they were doing the character, too show how ridiculous mixing the abilities of the multiple games was, but I love that shit, so for me he kept getting cooler by the minute
The Rediscoverer of Skin Dancing? I hope that the Black Spiral Dancers won't hear about that ritual, they have enough sadistic tools at their disposal, and this one has benefit...
Don't worry the skin dancers dislike them very much and will never teach them the rite.
Say what you want about V5, but we're all quick to forget how bonkers and absurd oWod could get.
Ahh, Sam.
oWoD was made in the 90's, when being over the top ridiculous was part of the culture.
Thanks for the Sam Haight video, I swear I didn't know you were doing one near the same time as I was talking about the Skin Dancers. Good video though!
You're both awesome content creators. Sam's journey touched everything in the World of Darkness (except for Changeling).
It's great to hear different perspectives and details, even if they intersect. Keep up the great work!
The seriously and ridiculously overpowered powered character in the whole world of Darkness
The only other guy who's just as insane is Caine.
Yo Paladin didn't expect to find you here!
@@thelonewolf5238 I've been here for a while. Just been quiet for a couple months.
Thank you for making this video a reality. Sam's journey is a crazy ride and I hope everybody else enjoys it as much as I do!
Didn't expect to see a Who's Who series for Werewolf! This will be a fun series.
What if they make A werewolf the apocalypse TV series
@@thedemonkingofgravitythe3383 I have already created mine in my head and it's a banger but hell yeah the game deserves a series.
@@thelonewolf5238 I feel like they can make werewolf the apocalypse TV series but won’t happen for a while
@@thedemonkingofgravitythe3383 nah. They tried it with VtM (titled Kindred:The Embraced) and it flopped, even before the lead actor died in a car wreck. If you can’t make a VtM series work even with all the mid 90’s grimdark goth kids running around, I don’t think a Werewolf series is going to work out to well. Think of the production costs.
@@mightydagon still think it’s still happen maybe me by someone else
Oh my god... The ULTIMATE BADASS
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This is gonna be one interesting video 😁
Happi new year 2021! Great re-telling of the skin-dancer Haight. Much appreciated. More on the abominations please! Be safe. Mabuhay!
"I'm going to be the MOST anime antagonist of all time!" - Samuel Haight, probably.
Back in the day when i played rage i usually had him in my wyrm deck...
Wow this guy seems to be the ace in practically everything, good thing he was taken out.
I like the part where he turns himself into an ashtray.
Smiley face.
Local man pisses off literally goddamn everyone
...With his only known good deed was helping Gabriel White through his first change.
Recall playing chaos factor years ago, it was, well, chaos
Good lord
He mixed splats....he got what he deserved lol.
hey if someone one to play the werewolf as a game of thrones type of game where you could use the other fera to how would you play it. you could use all of the werewolf themes of white wolf get rid of the rule you like. surprise me how would you do it.
ack i remember this fucking guy
what a horrendous man, he could have instead healped his father and dwindling people by hunting down black sprial dancers and changing the worthy. instead he hurt good people and helped the worm. what a jerk.
If you think wearing the skin of a BSD is a good idea, you might wanna look up just what kind of mutations are brought about by Wyrm Taint.
@@Nyrufa this is a strange thing to say but the goal is to alchemically purify the pelts and myself as i would ascend to a higher form of power. i am a mage afterall. Hey did you know that all WOD is based on real life. check this out, read on sabbati Tzevi, he and the jesuits made what we would call the Sabbat in the game. btw the jesuits are the lossombra.
oh and on michael a. aquino. the occult chomo stuff.
Happy new years !
Hey Have you seen the new Earthblood Gameplay video ?
Also I deny to accept as canon this abomination of dev's wicked fantasy ! XD
Is this a real character as it sounds like bad fan fiction.
He's a real character lol, he was meant to make fun of power gamers who wanted to cross every supernatural for ultimate power.
Hey you said you would release the Get of Fenris lore part 3 in 4/1/21 does this still stands true cause we can't wait.
It’ll be released for my patrons the 4th. It will be public the 11th
@@ThePrimogen today is the day.
Except if things have changed.
Samuel became such a joke in Wod.
That was the whole point of his character, IIRC.
Good to see that after a while, black lives apparently stopped mattering. Unfortunately, something thrown away is not so easily repaired.