Which Sandpaper is the Best? Ultimate Sandpaper Showdown (12 Brands - With Slow Mo 19k FPS Footage)
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
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In this week’s woodworking product test/review we are testing definitively which sandpaper brand is the best. We tested how much wood 12 different brands removed and figured out not only which brand is the best but which one has the best value. I believe this is the first test of its kind and certainly proves our results to be consistent and reliable. I go over which types of sandpaper are used for woodworking, how they’re made, and which materials they use. We have some REALLY COOL slow motion footage of a Random Orbital Sander using different grits. This test was done in conjunction with Mike Taylor from Tytools and really taught me some things I thought were wrong. Some of you brands should be ashamed of yourselves for passing this garbage off as sandpaper! I really can’t wait to see what you create! Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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yo sup bro
Wait garnets are soft? they have a hardness of 7.5 few gemstones are harder than garnets.
@@TomsBackyardWorkshop super soft compared to AO and Ceramic. I'm not sure if garnet sandpaper is the same thing as the gem stones though. Might be worth googling
Can't order it cause for some reason it can't be shipped to Israel.... :(
@@kfiramar9967 Israel placed a moratorium on the US shipping because of Covid unfortunately.
Great demonstration, Jonathan. We love to see professionals like you putting 3M science to work and getting more done per disc!
Favorite brand for sandpaper and masks!
I feel like I have been unintentionally marketing for you guys for the last 6 months... everyone I know uses the 3m cubitrons now. Is it too late to ask for a job? Ha!
Does 3m sell this awsome sandpaper in europe
Please make a 6in variety pack.
I love your sandpaper! It's been harder for me to source locally since the pandemic started, but it's my favorite!
I looked at the title, thought to myself “do I really need to watch this” as I was thinking what could I possibly learn about sandpaper but hey I’m I big fan of the channel so i got stuck in, anyway really glad I did, thanks for putting yourself through 6 hours of sanding for us! That’s dedication, Thanks Jonathon
Don’t say all go through 6 hours of sanding too... it really is no fun
**BEFORE YOU COMMENT I WISH BRAND X WAS INCLUDED I SUGGEST CHECKING OUT THE FULL TEST HERE* lddy.no/nm9q FESTOOL, BOSCH, DEWALT, FREUD/DIABLO,GATOR, KINGSPORE, MIRKA, NORTON, SHOPSMITH, SIA, were included and got beaten in varying degrees by 3M. The full test is an informative and incredible 10 minute read. Cheers
I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.
When it comes to product testing project farm is by far the #1 source. Un-sponsored content and breaks down everything on many different levels.
*Works really **MyBest.Tools** well, and fits hand perfectly.*
Hey brother can’t thank you enough for all the time and effort you put into these videos, you really help me and others a ton. Also, I hear a lot of other UA-camrs referencing your videos so hats off to you man. Keep the goods comin🤙🏼
The most underdog and under-appreciated topic in the wood working world! Killer video man, much needed! I'm either getting old and boring or we all share the same love for the craft! (Sandpaper videos are the most exciting!)
There's no offense meant here, I absolutely love the fact you seem to be a numbers and data nerd. It adds so much credibility to what you do when you're able to put some science behind the woodworking. Keep it up!
Love the cost per gram removed comparison! I was always in doubt about what defines sandpaper quality and here we have it. Thanks!
Not only was this a far more interesting demonstration on sandpaper than I expected I was thrilled to learn that my other great hobby/money pit of horology (guys..) will now be covered by you!! Can’t wait to see more of your Seikos!
I started using Mirka sanding discs a few years ago after getting very frustrated with the junk on the market. I didn't do any of the fancy tests like you guys did but I could figure out what was junk pretty fast. The Chairman of my Budget Committee didn't understand at first but she came around when I stopped ordering sandpaper every month. I buy 50 disc boxes and they last me several years. I run from 60 grit to 600 grit for my normal bowl and vase turnings and even have smaller boxes of 800 to 2000. Had I been able to see a video like yours sooner I would have saved much more. So glad my gut was proved out by your empirical results. Keep fighting the fight and saving us money. BTW it's the same for Bit and Bits. Slowly getting rid of junk.
"The Chairman of my Budget Committee" 😂 I know her well!
I am a Welder fabricator. I have been using 3M Cubitron for ever. GREAT PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that they offer it for wood, I will use nothing else. Thank you for all your content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your kind words! It's great to hear how much you love our Cubitron products.
This video is a HUGE help. Thank you for posting it and breaking down the different manufacturers effectiveness. I have been using the Freud mesh ones now for the past year and they do a decent job. As soon as I'm through those, I'm definitely switching.
The slowmo series has been extremely interesting so far! Great work guys!!
I totally agree with you!
Fantastic work, Jonathan!!! That's science! 😃
Testing, retesting for confirmation and so on! I love it! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Really great info in this, man!
Jonathan - always learn so much from your videos! Thank you for all you do!
This is the MOST valuable youtube video I have seen in 2020. Katz-Moses, well done :)
Thanks so much for this service you've done for your viewers! I ordered the 3M paper from Taylor after seeing your video last night, and I already received a shipping notification this morning. That's so fast!
The only thing I would have liked to see you do is to throw in a SUPER cheap paper for comparison. You know there's folks out there picking their discs up at Harbor Freight. **looks around**
I appreciate your science. The testing you showed is repeatable, quantified and above all undoubtedly fair! Very valuable information. Thank you, and I'm looking forward to wiping man glitter (saw dust) on my leftie apron!
OMG I needed this information!! So much work u guys put into this video. Thank u so so much🙏🏼.
Been using these now for about a week straight, sanding an old poly sealed slab and wow these are the best sandpaper’s I’ve ever used!
This is fascinating! Thanks JKM!
Thanks bud!
I think I learned more about sanding in this video than ever before .If only it wasn't needed but of course some finishing /smoothing of a surface can't be avoided.
Bought some of the 3M discs after watching this. Just got to use them on a project and you are 100% correct on these. They are WAY better than any others I have used before. Thanks for the video!
Fantastic information & I'm sold on the cubitron! Definitely picking that up!
Amazingly well put together video and great info, so worth watching
Man, this is great information! Looks like Tay Tools is getting more of my money! Looking forward to receiving my apron tomorrow!! 😁
I just recently switched from Bosch paper to Mirka paper and this totally explains why I don't hate sanding anymore. Great video man!
I got my sample pack of the 3M the other day and got to try it on some hard maple today and I have to say I was amazed at how fast sanding went. Sanding took less than half the time I expected and disk still looks almost new. Awesome find and worth the extra for me.
Great job at creating new content that adds to the information base
I would watch any channel you make, your a cool dude, and the way you present your topics is awesome!
If you asked me if I'd watch a ~15 minute video on sandpaper I'd give it a hard pass.
But here I am, and I was interested. Thanks for the great videos. Lots of good information.
Now to buy all the 3m sandpaper and finally build my sand paper station
Great video! I'm a data analysis geek, so I found the data fascinating. Also got my sample of the 3M Cubitron ordered.
Love this video I was about to restock my sand paper rack this week
Thanks for the great info👍 I was actually thinking about this dilema as my sand paper supply was dwindling. Always helps to know where to get the most bang for your buck.
Thanks for the research you put into this. I just received my order of 3M cubitron and they are way better than anything I’ve used before. Also just got my tool apron in. Love the quality! Keep up the good work.
Jonathan, you're awesome!
You succeeded to make such an interesting video out of such a boring topic as sanding!
Thank you!
Really informational video thanks for taking the time.
Great video, thanks for the awesome info! Just ordered your apron, only just started woodworking so might aswell get the best apron arounď while supporting the channel.
So glad that I watched this,, man oh man always dropping knowledge. Thank you so much
The link to TayTools testing doc is not working for me either the one posted in the comments, or the one posted on the Katz Moses results spreadsheet.
i love this channel man its so helpful
Glad you enjoy it!
Good video 👍 I enjoyed all the information thanks for doing all the work
THANK YOU! That was great information.
incredible video, havent seen much like this. great work
Outstanding video! Or should I say outsanding video! lol Learned a lot from this video. I am certainly going to be reviewing my sand paper choices.
YES! I’ve been telling everyone the 3m “purple paper” is by far the best. I always called it 3m Pro Grade. Had to look at a 15 pack of 120 grit I had laying in the shop to see that it had the “cubitron” logo. I feel SO vindicated now lol
Hi John - Thanks for your kind words! It's great to hear how much you love our Cubitron products.
@@3MAbrasives Former 3M'er here. My pension starts in 33 days. Happy camper!!!!!!
Awesome video, J! Super informative as always! I do feel like I'm an outcast now though because sanding is just about the most relaxing part of woodworking for me so far...
P.S. I cannot believe you didn't tell us about your watch collection sooner! I have been oogling at Vortic watches since I started my new job, definitely a love I never knew I had. Can't wait for your first upload!
Such a great video!! 3M's purple sandpaper has been my favorite for a long time for my palm sander, and I've really liked the 3M Cubitron paper I've had for that sander. I'll make sure to buy some for my orbital. I loved the cost comparison-very helpful!
I have been waiting for weeks. thanks Jonathan
I like this guy's videos. Really helpful and informative.
Literally search for a video like this last week and couldn’t find anything useful. Thanks JKM!
This is excellent information. I've known for years the big box store brands were junk. Compared them with some sandpaper I picked up from a company called Heleta. I got turned onto their products years back through Pirate4x4 as having quality angle grinder wheels. Their sandpaper was MUCH better than the box store brands. Didn't rip as easy, didn't wear out as fast and was cheaper. Win, win, and win.
That said, that was just my simple eyeball test. This information is fantastic! Well done to you Jonathan and to Mike for that hard work in that test. If I didn't have a stockpile of 50 sheets of all my sandpaper already I pick up some of that 3M stuff! Maybe in 3 years after I burn through all of my stock.
Thanks Jonathan! Always learning stuff here!
Awesome, thank you!
THAT was a really useful video! 👍🏼
Great topic I've been using diablo for awhile now been happy with it but when it runs out I'll definitely step up to the cubitron thx for all the time and effort that you have been putting in great job 👍
Amazing video. Great job
Just got my new TayTools 4” rule and it is awesome! great build quality! Will be ordering the sample pack of 3M paper asap!
Yay I’m the first to see it!! I’ve been waiting all week for this one! More Sloooooooow mo! And you KNOW I’ll be WATCHing your new channel!
Received my first commission project of 2.5" Ash Floating Shelves. I decided to re-watch your segment on sandpaper and ordered an assortment pack of the 3M Cubitron.......WOW!!! What a difference, the speed, the longevity and effectiveness. I will have to work my way through my existing inventory of Gator and other, but will be replacing with the Cubitron. Really appreciate your efforts on making this research public!
Super excited about the watch channel! I love watches also :D
Already subscribed!!
Thanks for the advice !
Great video.We as woodworkers need these as you cannot trust the big companies sales pitch.Well done
Great video,I love this scientific approach
Bosch rep: "Oh great, JKM is talking about Bosch stuff; maybe we can do a sponsored video together"
*WATCHES VIDEO IN UTTER HORROR*
Great video!
Hahahaha I am locking my doors tonight
Bocsh has terrible social media management team. I dont like saying that because it sounds like a generalization but European brands seem to not understand how UA-cam impact their business. Festool is starting to dip their toes but Felder is totally absent, Bosch is a joke, etc...
Its mind blowing when you go from bad sandpaper to amazing sandpaper.
As an engineer I must say: “that’s a well made data report!”
Loved this. I was wondering if sandpaper was just sandpaper or if some are better than others. Thank you very much!
Good video! I'll have to grab some cubitron disks! I have the 3M sheets but didn't know they made disks. I recommend the Router Mats from Kencraft for sanding. Those mats hold your workpiece well and I finish on them as well. I originally saw Dave Piccuto use them on Makesomething channel and one of the hidden gems of my shop
This was very useful!
This confirms my experience... I've always been a mirka and Norton guy. I haven't tried the 3m ceramics, but it looks like I should give them a look.
Just switched to the 3M Cubitron sandpaper. All I can say is wow! The best stuff I have come across. Not only great for woodworking, but metal working too. Metal simply destroys cheaper sandpaper...dull in a few seconds. The Cubitron eats through plain carbon steel like a hot knife through butter. Even with hardened tool steel, no problem. I recently refinished an old, beat to hell wood chisel with the Cubitron. I made my own PSA disks for a bench disk sander, started with 60 Grit to clean it up, then worked up to the 400 grit. I then finished the edge with waterstones. The chisel will take the hair right off your arm now. The amazing thing is the Cubitron disks I made still has a lot of life left in them...and this stuff is just "sandpaper" I picked up at the HD. Crazy!
Interesting video. I introduced Norton ceramic sandpaper to the commercial hardware I was working at several years ago and had received a demo pack of various types to try out prior to the recommendation. I was very impressed with the results and have used it ever since with excellent results. I am going to purchase the new 3M product to try out and see how much difference there is between the two products. Thanks for the informative video.
I have been using Mirka for several years. Going to check out the 3m.
Thanks for the work.
Your results match my preference in sandpaper. I have been using Mirka Bulldog Gold for years with fantastic results. It produces the most consistent scratch pattern per grit than any other paper I have used. Mirka Rocks!! It produces the best surface I have seen from any sandpaper, and it cuts fast with less heat.
love this channel
Thank you my friend
I was blown away by 3M paper on my last project. I normally use Diablo, but the store didn't have any 120 or 400 on hand. I absolutely loved both, and I got way, wayyy more life out of the pads. It's rare to find something so much better.
A horology channel. Just fell in love with you all over again...don’t tell the wife ;)
Thanks for the info! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Nice comparison. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Very valuable information
Oh. My. God. I used the 3M stuff last night for the first time on a scrap board and I was able to smooth it out so fast and the discs still look brand new. I used to use the Gator sandpaper that you find at big box stores and I felt like I was going to spend the rest of my life sanding the same board. The 3M Cubitron II stuff is worth every single penny!
Got my sample pack last week and used it for the first time over the weekend. All I can say is MY-Oh-MY, where has this Cubiton II been all my life. I was thoroughly impressed. I mistakenly purchased the 240-420 grits, but, I gotta say it was super. Having trouble finding it in lower grits, and less than a 50pk.
Awesome review! Thanks! I've figured out a long time ago that Mirka sandpapers are far better that Dewolt, Bosh and Dewolt and buy only them, but now i will give this 3M a try!
this is awesome!
Very interesting so thank you. Looking at the results tells a story I think. Most of these companies would not make their own products so most would be rebadged. There seems to be 3M out the front, a second group and a third poorly performing group. I was interested because I have Mirka and Festool disks which both seem to be in the middle group. There would be some variability due to density of the abrasive, glue used and the backing material and so on but the results are fairly consistent. Cheers
Wow! This is great information, especially for a beginner like me. I now know that when I use up my Festool and Diablo discs, I'll be getting the 3M. Way to go with providing such value 3M!
Great video. I ordered some 80 and 120 paper from Taylor Toolworks and was very pleased with how well the 3M paper performed. What a bummer that you can't get these sanding discs on stores.
Only reason I watched this video about sanding! was because JK-M produced it! And not disappointed either, thank you and cant wait for my apron to arrive Down Under.
Holy hell, I never would have thought that the main brands would have been THAT bad. Plus, I certainly don’t envy 6 straight hours of sanding, but the results are quite shocking. Nice job guys 👍
I got my email for the apron and it was despatched on Thursday. I live in the UK, so it’ll take a while to get here, but I’m really looking forward to it. I can’t wait. Well I can, because I have no choice. Lol.
They are tool brands, not primary manufacturers of abrasives like 3M, Norton and Mirka. They buy cheaper material, package it and mark it up.
Cliff Burgin. Erm. Okay. Thanks for that.
Love to see this test on pine.. Ive had to sand T&G for 10hrs a day for a couple weeks at a time for big houses and do lots of 2"live edge slab projects. Tryed the 3x more expensive ceramic disks and belts, but they dont seem to be much better for the extra cost.. spraying with a dry lube helps a little tho. ill be tryin the 3m cubitron , good vid thanx.
Great informational video. Thanks for taking the time to make this. Why did you weigh the sander down? I was always taught to let the sandpaper do the work and don't bear down on the tool. I learn so much from your channel, Thanks!
To mimic the weight of your arm which is anywhere from 6-12 lbs. Cheers my friend
Hey, I tested the Mirka and Wounder Weave and they did terrible . The mesh is just not a good substrate for abrasives.
Great video. Naturally I just stocked my sand paper so it will be a couple of months before I need more. I did however get that sample set from Tay Tools, to good of a deal to pass up.
i'm using cubitron for some time and I'm amazed how fast it works and how long lasts. Also used it on some finish removal and had lower tendecies to get cloged. Didn't know it's also available in sheets though
Edit - I read the description - thank you for your dope content.
As a side note i convinced my wife operating my Rotex would help tone her arms and cut down on my time in the shop...
The one sanding paper I really miss is the new Festool Granat Net. I really would love to see that in comparison to the 3m
It was compared and didn't do as well. Read the main test
This is exactly the kind of nerdy stuff I love.