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  • Опубліковано 20 лют 2023
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  • @StumpyNubs
    @StumpyNubs  Рік тому +5

    ▼EXPAND THIS SECTION FOR IMPORTANT INFO▼
    ★THIS VIDEO WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY★
    3M Xtract CUBITRON II sanding discs: lddy.no/19fdf
    *The mesh are my favorite, but the purple discs with the spiral of holes are great too! Just try one pack and see the difference!
    3M Professional Sander: lddy.no/19fcc
    *Taylor Tools is a small, family owned business that is a sponsor of our videos, including this one.*
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    • @slick8086
      @slick8086 Рік тому

      Lets say you're sanding a BIG job like a 36' fiberglass sailboat and removing epoxy paint. How many square feet do you think you should get out of a disk? Is there a reference guide around somewhere to provides this info?

    • @zapa1pnt
      @zapa1pnt Рік тому

      @@slick8086: You will never find such information.
      It all depends what you are sanding and how thick it is, along with the disk you are using.
      (design, material, density. etc.)

    • @sail4life
      @sail4life Рік тому

      @@slick8086 I just restored a wood epoxy trimaran. From frames to finish. Trust me, you needed that Cubitron, yesterday! Just make sure you use dust extraction and NEVER sand uncured epoxy near other humans.

  • @PVS3
    @PVS3 Рік тому +95

    Based on the title and thumbnail, I thought this was going to go over cool stuff to do with the discs AFTER changing them out, not just a deep dive into "you should use new and high quality sanding material"

    • @CarlYota
      @CarlYota Рік тому +7

      You saved me ten minutes. Thank you.

    • @inmyimage1081
      @inmyimage1081 8 місяців тому +4

      Thanks, clicked on what you have kindly told me it was just clickbait 👍

  • @zone4garlicfarm
    @zone4garlicfarm Рік тому +109

    As a painting contractor who finishes a lot of log home interiors I go through several thousand sanding discs a year. It's not always easy to get my employees to replace sanding discs as often as they should. They are trying to keep my expenses down by getting as much as they can from each disc. I tell them that sandpaper is cheaper than labor and they should change discs as soon as they notice it isn't cutting as fast as a new one.

    • @spencerjoplin2885
      @spencerjoplin2885 Рік тому +12

      Or they’re trying to *increase* their hours by sanding slowly.

    • @AlexanderElse
      @AlexanderElse Рік тому +44

      ​@@spencerjoplin2885 no one wants to do more sanding than they have to 😂

    • @itchy711
      @itchy711 Рік тому +7

      @@AlexanderElse TRUTH!!!!

    • @NelloCambelli
      @NelloCambelli Рік тому +1

      Teach them the principle of “Penny Wise, Pound Foolish” the English provided us. Had to train my employees about breakage at my wine distribution company - break a bottle then we need to sell 5 cases to make up the cost from the profit.

    • @EnlightenedSavage
      @EnlightenedSavage Рік тому

      @@spencerjoplin2885 you are......delusional

  • @annathiika5755
    @annathiika5755 Рік тому +17

    I work at a 3M plant that makes this stuff, tbh it’s nice to hear that people like it

    • @heystarfish100
      @heystarfish100 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for doing the work for the people. 🙏

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins Рік тому +1

      It's sandpaper for people who hate sanding, which is nearly everyone.

  • @paulheitkemper1559
    @paulheitkemper1559 Рік тому +32

    The best (no kidding) woodworking advice I ever got is "Use sandpaper like someone else is paying for it."

  • @thomlipiczky9021
    @thomlipiczky9021 Рік тому +18

    One of the things I've admired about your videos is the excellent writing in the "scripts". Very clear, no excess verbiage. Also good clean production values in the video. Thanks for the high quality information!

  • @lincolndickerson1293
    @lincolndickerson1293 Рік тому +9

    Best way I found to save on sandpaper is use a hand plane or card scraper before sanding. It takes some practice but is faster, less small partical sawdust and much more pleasing to do.

  • @Old52Guy
    @Old52Guy Рік тому +19

    Great ideas! I squirrel worn sandpaper away, too. In a pinch I use them as finer grit papers. I also do modelmaking and model trains. Sanding belts make great roadways!

  • @rebecca5837
    @rebecca5837 Рік тому +2

    Not going to lie….. I needed this reminder.

  • @sundancer014
    @sundancer014 Рік тому +5

    That is probably the most useful information I have heard this year.I will certainly be seeking these 3M discs for future projects.Many thanks.

  • @Hardnox1911
    @Hardnox1911 Рік тому

    Thanks James. Great advice. I switched to Curbitron discs 2 years ago. Wow, what a difference in performance, speed, and final product. Plus they last so much longer.

  • @norm5785
    @norm5785 Рік тому

    Wonderful information and definately worth the few seconds and pennies to put a new piece of sandpaper on. Thank you for sharing. Stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому

    Thanks for all the tips, James! 😊
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @antoniolopes8776
    @antoniolopes8776 Рік тому +2

    A new sport has been invented: shooting sandpaper disks across the shop. If you hit a target (like a beverage can) you are the champion.

  • @johnslaughter5475
    @johnslaughter5475 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, James. I know that I've been guilty of doing just those errors. I'm very much hoping to get back in my shop. This has been a long cold winter and I'm more than ready to start building again.

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 Рік тому

    Thanks James, very good information about the sanding disc's . Thanks for sharing with us. Stay safe and keep up the good videos. Fred.

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 Рік тому +1

    I'm reminded of a time I needed to take a rough edge off, and grabbed a sheet of sandpaper that had been sitting in the shop for years. all the grit wiped right off.

  • @tharemyhopkins5873
    @tharemyhopkins5873 Рік тому +33

    Maybe it's not most effective, but I tend to take worn out discs from the ROS and set them aside for the hand-sanding needed to break some edges, sand round-overs or get in tight spaces. They seem to have enough life left for that, and I toss those as soon as the next ROS disc is available.

    • @Baumscheibenkunst
      @Baumscheibenkunst Рік тому +2

      Especially the center area usually is rather intact still. From there I cut 2" circles matching a sanding pad that goes into my cordless drill. Great for small stuff and only takes a few seconds.

  • @WindRidgeWoodCrafts
    @WindRidgeWoodCrafts Рік тому

    Always a great amount of info, James. Thanks for the info and insights.

  • @JamesWilliams-en3os
    @JamesWilliams-en3os Рік тому +1

    Two comments. First, I started using Cubitron sanding disks about a year ago, and they are definitely a cut above (pun intended) any previous disks I have used. Second, I bought the new 3M orbital sander as recommended on the Stumpy Nubs channel last year and have found that it is without a doubt the best sanding tool I have ever used. I used to HATE sanding… but these two items have changed that. I just finished sanding a pair of hanging shelves I’ve been working on. I accomplished the job in less time and with less fuss (and far less sanding dust) than I would have thought possible.

  • @WouldWorkforWoodWork
    @WouldWorkforWoodWork Рік тому +1

    Always great info James!
    Another thing to note for this video... don't lean your DA sander up in the edge to dig in... you'll add small scallops on the piece because the edge is round. Keep the sander flat!

  • @Sunshinny247
    @Sunshinny247 Рік тому

    This is the best information I've learned! Wow I've been pressing on the sander, being cheap trying to stretch paper. PS your shop is the nicest I've ever seen!!

  • @timfarmer6459
    @timfarmer6459 5 місяців тому

    After watching your video, I went on line and bought the CUBITRON sanding disc. These are amazing disc. I will never buy the disc from the big box stores again. Thank You so much for the advice.

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 Рік тому

    Great information James, thanks for sharing.

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking Рік тому +41

    This may sound odd, but I keep unbelievably worn down discs of 320 and use them to burnish things. It creates a shiny surface that leaves that same shine of applying a finish. Add a finish on top and it just looks so smooth and shiny. It was a total accident discovery, and I only use it on small things and you do it with only quick bursts of the sander.

    • @toysoldier46552
      @toysoldier46552 Рік тому +4

      I just use 1200 grit, I'm one of those guys who has had to buy a replacement pad for my sander and do not recommend using old sand paper. First off, it will begin to tear and it will leave marks if you decide to press down harder. I don't know how many times in the past I had to resand a project and actually ended up hurting the thickness of the boards doing so. Just use the proper grits and get rid of that old stuff.

    • @kennyb4871
      @kennyb4871 Рік тому +3

      I use old sand paper to clean the oil off scroll saw blades before I use them.
      I scroll quite a bit.....

    • @RavensViewStudio
      @RavensViewStudio Рік тому +1

      I do the same for lathe work... but only if I'm planning a final finish around the 400-600 grit range. Anything above that, it just messes up previous sanding.

    • @Crushwokery
      @Crushwokery Рік тому +4

      Scotchbrite pads work well for the same effect but without the squirely scratches. Follow that with a cheap car da car buffer armed with a wool pad and paste wax and you end up with eye candy when done.

    • @ryananthony4840
      @ryananthony4840 Рік тому +2

      ​@@toysoldier46552 I just use a good hand plane and don't fuss with sanding at all

  • @Grindog
    @Grindog Рік тому

    I absolutely the 3M Cubitron sandpaper. Best sandpaper I've ever used in the last 60 yers.

  • @bobsmith3790
    @bobsmith3790 Рік тому

    Thanks James. You’re the best.

  • @romeotango5597
    @romeotango5597 Рік тому

    I just picked up a random piece of well treated pine on the side of the road in my neighborhood. I saw exactly the pattern you showed of pig tail scratches. And low and behold you put out a video covering just that the very same day. I thought maybe the board was used as a shelf that carried many candles, because it vaguely resembles the wavy bottom of many glass candle holders.

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 Рік тому

    Another great video with lots of helpful information thanks

  • @adriaklocke3219
    @adriaklocke3219 Рік тому

    I've learned the lesson to not try to be cheap multiple times. Between buying multiple versions of tools and finishes. I spent enough money trying to up my dowel game (landing on the DowelMax) that I could have just bought a Domino right off the bat. For some reason, I keep making these mistakes though. Definitely going to try out that 3M Xtract next time I need sandpaper though!

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover4133 Рік тому

    Another great video
    Maybe I’m a bit weird I actually like sanding it means I’m in the home stretch. But do not want to waist time.
    In process of moving my shop 700+ miles I was shocked at how much old sandpaper I’d squirrel away.
    It’s been over 2 years sense I’ve been able to use it can hardly wait!! 🎉

  • @rjtumble
    @rjtumble Рік тому

    Completely right about the cubitron paper, it's amazing

  • @marklapierre5629
    @marklapierre5629 Рік тому

    Thanks for the tip Stumpy.

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 Рік тому

    Love your work 👍

  • @burntsider8457
    @burntsider8457 Рік тому

    You persuaded me. I've been looking for justification to change paper more often.

  • @dconkey1
    @dconkey1 Рік тому

    I am probably on the other end, I change my disc all the time, maybe before the need it. Hooking my orbital sander up to a shop vac did wonders for the quality of the sanding.

  • @FishGeeek
    @FishGeeek Рік тому

    Love the advice!

  • @tommysts1920
    @tommysts1920 Рік тому +3

    I have to find some new shoes. Sanded the heck out of them as Stumpy said, now I can't walk in them anymore. LoL

  • @radiationroom
    @radiationroom Рік тому

    Great info. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jimbo2629
    @jimbo2629 Рік тому +9

    If you use frequently the rubbery plastic sandpaper dressing to remove the dust, they last at least 20 times longer. This applies to discs belts orbital sanders and not forgetting sandpaper on a cork block. I’ve been doing this for decades as one came with my belt sander. Most sanding videos don’t include this simple money saver. I haven’t changed my edge sander belt for 6 months.
    In the past I have used an old belt on my edge sander to flatten the sole of a plane, and to rehone a notched chisel.

    • @danieldaponte1819
      @danieldaponte1819 Рік тому +2

      Another secret is that you can get huge ones at truck stops and they cost nearly nothing. Apparently truckers use them on their brakes or something. It's literally the same stuff though.

    • @Babeldyret
      @Babeldyret Рік тому +2

      Could you specify what that thing is a little more please? Ice never heard of that, but I'm super intrigued! Thx!

    • @AyresHaxton
      @AyresHaxton Рік тому

      @@Babeldyret look up “abrasive cleaning stick”

  • @kencoleman7762
    @kencoleman7762 Рік тому

    Great advice. Thanks.

  • @Tattysnuc
    @Tattysnuc Рік тому

    great tip about humidity. Cheers

  • @moos5221
    @moos5221 Рік тому +1

    My company produces sandpaper and I approve of the videos message.

  • @hassanal-mosawi4235
    @hassanal-mosawi4235 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing that!

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 Рік тому

    Thanks, good insight, guilty as charged, we be changing our ways.

  • @lexboegen
    @lexboegen Рік тому

    I have a belt sander, two RO sanders and two finish (straight line) sanders. I’m gradually increasing my skill with using a smoothing plane and cabinet scrapers, and sanding much less now. If I sand at all, it’s usually just once with 220 grit or higher, and then just between coats of finish. Sanding is really the only part of a project that I don’t enjoy doing.

  • @HeliRy
    @HeliRy Рік тому +41

    Just started using the mesh Cubitron disks last week… and holy crap. I was cleaning up some reclaimed wood and had previously been using Diablo disks, which are also pretty good imo. But the 3M disks would do in a single pass, what the Diablos took 3 to 4 passes to accomplish. It’s insane, you can damn near power carve with these things haha. 🤘🤘

    • @Nutterlie
      @Nutterlie Рік тому +3

      And those babies go on and on and on and well you know.

    • @Painfulwhale360
      @Painfulwhale360 Рік тому +2

      I’m using the mesh cubitron as well and they are awesome but I wonder if the non mesh version would last longer? Like the one in the thumbnail

    • @dwalsh3469
      @dwalsh3469 Рік тому

      Try Festool Granat mesh. It makes Cubitron look like an entry level experiment.

    • @Painfulwhale360
      @Painfulwhale360 Рік тому

      @@dwalsh3469 really? 🤔

    • @dwalsh3469
      @dwalsh3469 Рік тому

      @@Painfulwhale360 yes. I bought a box of the cubitron to try it out. You can’t use it on a geared rotary sander (it does say so on the box) and the equivalent grit size in the granat mesh is way better, for me at least. Don’t get me wrong - it’s very good sandpaper. Granat mesh is better. Stronger and stays sharp much longer.

  • @dirkroggeveen5764
    @dirkroggeveen5764 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @daifeichu
    @daifeichu Рік тому +2

    I never thought about the affect of humidity on sanding disks. I've got a bunch on a shelf above my workbench that are curled up.

  • @FamilyMentors
    @FamilyMentors Рік тому

    One thing to consider is scraping before sanding. Thanks for the great tips.

  • @toysoldier46552
    @toysoldier46552 Рік тому +1

    I'm one of those guys who has a new replacement pad for his sander due to overusing sandpaper in the past. No it's not been put on yet, I'm waiting for the old one to fully give up before I replace it. Once the old one just shoots disks across the shop, well then I will replace it lol.

  • @Kosh42EFG
    @Kosh42EFG Рік тому

    The sanding cleaner block was a revelation to me. Especially on the belt sander.

  • @camogirlkm
    @camogirlkm Рік тому

    I'm going to try those 3M pads. I've looked at the 3M sander & fell in love with how quite it is but my husband said I don't need a $500 sander 😔 so I'm stuck with my $90 DeWalt but its ok bc it's a really good sander for the money without being too cheap. I do need to get me those anti vibration gloves you showed on another video though those would really be nice to have for extended periods of sanding.

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    @mariushegli Рік тому +2

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  • @anthonyegner1382
    @anthonyegner1382 Рік тому

    Great Info Cheers

  • @jonjonr6
    @jonjonr6 Рік тому +1

    I like to hang on to the larger silica packets that come with large electrics to reuse in my storage containers and such.
    The nice ones come in a cloth bag.

  • @Yawles
    @Yawles Рік тому

    I was really anticipating you "frisbee-ing" the worn out sanding disc. You have far more class and style than me!

  • @Dakakeisalie
    @Dakakeisalie Рік тому +3

    Let's be real. Sanding is absolutely noone's favorite part of a project. It's probably most people's least favorite. However it's also a vital part of a quality project and thus unavoidable.
    To me those are exactly the places worth spending the extra bucks to skip through as fast as possible while not sacrificing quality, to get back to the parts I do enjoy.

  • @lonesomelenny7606
    @lonesomelenny7606 Рік тому +1

    This is a timely video. I have a life size fiberglass cow that the paint is peeling and I have to sand the entire thing.

  • @tgahan01
    @tgahan01 Рік тому

    Brilliant!

  • @dpmeyer4867
    @dpmeyer4867 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @SteveC38
    @SteveC38 Рік тому

    Absolutely True!

  • @sherriethames6503
    @sherriethames6503 Рік тому

    I'm just learning so advice is welcome. I feel like my sandpaper disks are wearing out in about 10 minutes. I ordered in bulk off of Amazon.

  • @mdaley3102
    @mdaley3102 Рік тому

    Great tips. I’m guilty, I almost always stretch my use too far. In addition to flat work I also turn wood. I really like the mesh Abranet discs but am now having a hard time finding them in 2” sizes with the scalloped edges and in all the grit sizes. It’s also hard to find them in bulk. The typical pack is 10 discs. I’ve spent tons of time looking for places that have what I need but haven’t found a “one stop shop” yet. If you have any information that can help, I sure would appreciate it. Thank you

  • @nicholsconstruction1
    @nicholsconstruction1 Рік тому

    Couldn’t agree more. 35 years building cabinets and houses.

  • @petem6503
    @petem6503 Рік тому

    The 3M Cubitron IS the best bargain, due to it's prolonged life. If you have the spiral-hole pattern version (that was the first ones I got), you may find that the cotton backing turns to dust loooong before the grit wears out. I still have some of the original (spiral pattern) disks that I use in hand sanding. I can't get them to wear out. The new ("fractal" pattern) version is only about 50% grit- faced, and that seems to have adjusted the useful life so that front and back wear out about the same time. Check out the box instructions on the Cubitron. Mine says max ROS speed 12k, which is less than the max of my ROS.

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 Рік тому

    Great information. Lots of varying views on how long to use sandpaper. For instance Lyle Jameson advocates only using sandpaper once. I think that is a bit extreme. Others say use a grit until it stops cutting well and then use it as the next finer grit. I don't buy that one either. I do think most of your suggestions are the way to go. 👍I don't absolutely agree with anybody. 🙂.S. Off subject question. the fence you are using on the table saw for a router looks interesting. Can you point to any information you have about it? Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

  • @observingfrank8435
    @observingfrank8435 Рік тому +1

    Aye. I also tend to use a drawing blade whenever it makes sense to use it as an alternative. Less waste, less fine dust.

  • @joncawte6150
    @joncawte6150 Рік тому +1

    Save the small bags of silica that come in some product packaging and re-purpose them in the containers that you are keeping your sandpaper in, change them periodically to maintain their effectiveness and/or recharge them by putting them on a tray and place them in a recently used oven.
    You can also used the silica bags in your tool containers to keep the moisture from potentially causing 'rust' on metals and moisture out of electronics.

  • @ryanc8188
    @ryanc8188 Рік тому +1

    My dad used to help me from time to time and he would try to stretch a sanding pad as long as possible. I told him one day, here is how I want you to think about it. If I was paying you what do you think would cost me more per hour, paying you trying to get every last bit out of a pad or the cost of the pad? Now I don't want you to sand one little thing and throw it, but once you stop seeing a decent amount of dust production throw it and grab another. The $1ish it costs me to change the pad is more cost effective than paying you to try and get an extra door or 2 out that pad.

  • @Ultegra10SPD
    @Ultegra10SPD Рік тому +1

    After i see the edges torched i cut them down to pie-shaped size for the oscillator. Think i got that tip from you. -U10

  • @ronaldharvey8601
    @ronaldharvey8601 Рік тому +1

    All good advice but do not forget that disks can be cleaned by rubbing a crepe block against them, cleans the disk for longer life. Been using them for 20 years, saved a fortune on all my sanding products.

  • @tomkarafa8605
    @tomkarafa8605 Рік тому

    You have to go to Gettysburg abrasive sandpaper outlet . Great prices and the gals who work there are alot of fun .

  • @pauldent3059
    @pauldent3059 Рік тому

    I changed to the 3m stuff and it's phenomenal and it's not that expensive where I get it, I'm in the uk and a box of 50 was £18

  • @mwoody4560
    @mwoody4560 Рік тому

    I haven’t found a brick n mortar that stocks the cubitron sand paper yet. I did find Diablo Sandnet which appears as an answer to 3M. Have you tried the Sandnet sand paper? I’m interested in your opinion of it as compared to 3M cubitron.

  • @corey6393
    @corey6393 Рік тому

    Never thought I would need a humidor for my sanding discs. HAHA!

  • @12345diehappy
    @12345diehappy Рік тому

    My sander is hard to control when it's hooked up to a shop vac and I think it's the hose. Do you have a favorite hose that doesn't work against the sander?

  • @profcah
    @profcah Рік тому

    Thanks James. Really great discussion on this subject. I have been guilty of this. Question: can you get cubitron for mouse type sanders?

    • @monteglover4133
      @monteglover4133 Рік тому

      The Milwaukee M-12 detail sander uses a mesh type of paper, not 3M.

  • @brianstevens3858
    @brianstevens3858 Рік тому

    I watch a lot of the woodworking stuff on several platforms, having been around for a long time, often I have to voice disagreement about the content, oddly I don't seem to get to comment on your stuff. So endeavoring to budge the algorithm in the favor of reliable information I said this.

  • @JCWren
    @JCWren Рік тому +6

    This sounds like propaganda from Big Sandpaper. You've gone to the dark side, Stumpy!
    (j/k, you're spot on about this)

  • @thenext9537
    @thenext9537 Рік тому

    I keep all my discs and I'll throw them onto my sanding blocks, both homemade or not. Also I do stuff like add them to a shim for tight spaces, etc. I've learned my lesson with sanding, you can TELL. I'm doing a tabletop and I'll start on one corner, I will go with the grain back and forth and about 1/3 the way I switch discs. Do the middle 3rd, and the second 3rd. Also doing some overlap on previous. then at the end I do 1 new disc, but a faster pass over the whole thing. Then using some shop lights at each end I examine the surface and adjust. Also, if you use these 3m discs, you have to use a vacuum or dust collection. There is less surface area than say something like a gator or any of those big box stores so the dust collects. If you don't have dust collection, then you may want to use another type of disc, 3m makes 3 discs I like that have varying levels of mesh.
    You may think that sounds crazy but it's WAY faster than going slower waiting for the sand paper to cut, doing more passes. The difference is night and day to me now, I just didn't see it then, but I dare you to try it. Basically, the table I'm working on is 8 foot by 45" wide (walnut). Think about it this way, let's say you drop 2000$ USD on 150 BF of black walnut. Do you think I'm going to get worked up using 3-5 1.25$ Discs vs trying to spend MORE time working 1-2 discs because I'm trying to stretch it out? N O P E.

  • @jarredmattingly5369
    @jarredmattingly5369 Рік тому +7

    You know, to clean paper discs in a pinch a wire brush works great, but you can't go to town on it. Don't apply the brush with the sander on. Just keep the sander off, and brush with light light pressure and minimize using the brush as it is wire and can damage the paper quicker, but it works awesome if applied correctly especially with really gummy situations. I use sandnet from Diablo so I don't get the issue anymore. And the gummed up paper is shot so it's worth a try with the wire brush anyways.

    • @bruceregittko7068
      @bruceregittko7068 Рік тому +2

      I’ve done the same with a stiff nylon brush with good results.

    • @Vikingwerk
      @Vikingwerk Рік тому

      I got one of those rubber sanding belt dressing tools they use on big wide belt surface sanders. Works on orbital sander discs just fine.

    • @edmilner5438
      @edmilner5438 Рік тому +1

      I use a file card, a small brush with wire bristles on one side and natural bristles on the other. A few raps with the wire bristles will give me a few more minutes with the cheap sandpaper I've been using. The file card also works wonders if used as intended on a file or rasp.

  • @JaredSurfSkate
    @JaredSurfSkate Рік тому

    I usually scrub gently any coarse 40--120 sandpaper with a soft brass wire brush after using it and it prolongs its life for at least thrice. For finer grit, once they are clogged for 1st time they're done, just swap it

  • @panagea2007
    @panagea2007 Рік тому +3

    I find that if you buy sanding discs in large quantities, you'll feel less anxious about changing discs. "Huh, I only bought a 5 pack, I better make them last as long as possible!"

  • @rayanderson1870
    @rayanderson1870 Рік тому

    I have been unable to find a supplier of the 3M Cubitron disks here in New Zealand and it is really expensive to import them due to shipping costs. I am currently restoring a 110 year old home and all of the trim wood is Rimu (a local hardwood), which is beautiful when polished and oiled, but at that age it is almost petrified, harder than nails, which bend when not pre-drilled. Sanding it takes a lot of disks, especially when they are a cheaper variety. I do envy you guys in the US who have ready access to all the equipment I see in these videos.

  • @Omnivorous1One
    @Omnivorous1One Рік тому

    Would putting some of those desiccant packs in the sandpaper storage help preserve them?

  • @slavaartyukh4075
    @slavaartyukh4075 Рік тому

    Thank you sir for sharing new tips. Question about Duragrit metal sanding discs. I bought 2 of them, 60 & 80 grid, used them with new velcro pad it came with on ridgid sander. Not sure why, but looks like those metal discs overheating easily on long projects and both my discs not flat anymore, they're warped. Is it me or its a nature of that product?
    Thanks.

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Рік тому

      I haven't had that problem. I suggest you contact Duragrit about it.

  • @mustelina
    @mustelina 2 місяці тому

    I appreciate your explanation but like the other guy said, I wanted to know what I could do with the used discs. I’m cheap! So I learned the hard way that cheap discs are actually more costly. But even though I swap out for fresh ones more frequently now, it pains me to just throw them away.

  • @zoladkow
    @zoladkow Рік тому +1

    those uber cheap market ones hve the extra bonus feature - the velcro doesn't hold after some time, which helps with that replacement decision 😆🙃

  • @bjones6537
    @bjones6537 Рік тому

    What about adding a couple of those small silica gel packs, that come with shoes and electronics, into the plastic bag or container? They should help keep the sand paper dry, too.

  • @MageLeaderInc
    @MageLeaderInc Рік тому

    What foam sanding pads do you use for your orbital sander and where do you get them? I have checked every hardware, auto, and wood shop in my area and nobody sells them in-store.

  • @richardchalmers5234
    @richardchalmers5234 9 місяців тому

    You talk about the 2 different kinds of Cubitron, mesh and with holes, do you have a preference, the mesh seems to be cheaper, does it work as well ??

  • @MrJohnnyboyrebel
    @MrJohnnyboyrebel Рік тому

    My worn 3M Cubitron discs find a second life at my lathe, where small less worn sections can be used on small turning projects.

  • @amazinga.f.artwork9047
    @amazinga.f.artwork9047 Рік тому

    Hey quick question. Will a regular shop vac work. Or does it have to be low volume or high volume. Hew and Awe said some different things about vacuums. Just trying to educate myself. Thank you

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Рік тому +1

      A dust extractor has many advantages, but a regular shop vac will work fine.

  • @Ultrazaubererger
    @Ultrazaubererger Рік тому

    Quick tip for cleaning sandpaper without compressed air:
    Use a painters brush (Or any big brush). It works really well!

  • @J.A.Smith2397
    @J.A.Smith2397 Рік тому

    I seen my new favorite sandpaper my boy blue told me about n see gotta see what he says to do with em. And OVER USE sandpaper 😆 I do only retire to a new one when I gotta make stuff disappear lol

  • @40jwthomas
    @40jwthomas Рік тому

    New stumpy video just dropped woohoo!

  • @matthewbondi9069
    @matthewbondi9069 Рік тому

    Can I use cubitron sand papers with my bosch random orbital? Or do I need to purchase 3Ms random orbital sander? Thanks

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  Рік тому

      They will work with any orbital sander brand

  • @tonymarrazzo354
    @tonymarrazzo354 Рік тому

    I have been using 3M Xtract paper, any difference from Cubitron? Also Totally off topic, what router fence are you using on your saw table?

  • @erichaskell
    @erichaskell Рік тому

    You just got a new studio? No more planes to dust. Couldn't agree more with you about replacing sanding discs and the great 3m products. New Harvey sponsor? Looked at their site, products seem pretty good; made in the U.S.? Doubt it given the prices but Taiwan is fine.