omg!! I'm the guy showing the songs in the original Video! I don't think this is the way 16 year old me thought I would be featured in an Adam Neely video, but I'm here for it! Perfect analysis of our discovery🐟
There is a specific aspect of English prosody at play here called stress-timing. In English speech, stressed syllables tend to occur at regular intervals. If there are two stressed syllables together, we'll leave a pause between them. If there are two unstressed syllables together, we'll say them quickly in order to fit them in before the next stressed syllable is due. When you put English to music, that naturally leads to stressed syllables being on the beat and unstressed syllables being off the beat (or stressed syllables being on accented beats and unstressed on unaccented beats if you are singing slower). If you have two unstressed syllables together, you need to use shorter notes to fit them in. That explains the rhythm of "caught in the". If you were singing in French, say, which is syllable-timed (all syllables are equally spaced, regardless of stress), you wouldn't see the same effect. The combination of lexical stress (stress is part of the word rather than following a standard pattern or just being for emphasis) and stress-timing in English gives rise to this phenomenon of particular sentences having particular inherent rhythms.
Damn I was going to say this after just the intro. I listened to that album so many times that I hear automatically "caught in the middle" like Dio sings it.
4:18 I think Björk singing in English in general it's a good example of prosodic dissonance. I once read (not sure if it's true) that she pretty much forces Icelandic rhythms into her English lyrics. I used to not like her singing much because of the weird way she distributes the syllables in her melodies. Nowadays I think it actually adds a lot of magic to her singing style, because it can break our expectations from normal speech.
Meshuggah does that constantly and I always wonder if it’s because they’re Swedish or because it sounds more metal or just because even the words have to have a hard to follow rhythm lol
I see it exceptionally much when people try to transliterate Japanese songs into English and force the English words into the stress patterns of the Japanese lyrics, just search for the 'English version' of any Japanese song, from anime or otherwise, and you'll absolutely hear prosodic dissonance
English is my second language, and when I moved to Australia with my family and started writing songs as a teenager, I was frustrated because I didn't understand why my singing sounded 'weird'. The entire time it was prosody, which I learned about years later
Caught rhymes with court. You don't pronounce the 'r' in court. Well, unless you're American. By the way, thanks America, for spoiling the English language and subsequently getting the rest of the world to learn your bastardised way. This is why we can't have nice things. People spoil them.
From the UK too, and I really struggled to hear any of the vocals say "cod", it sounded like they were just talking about not pronouncing their t while singing lol.
I literally can't believe you used a clip from Project 86. I saw them in a high school gym in my sophomore year of high school. I almost passed out from all the memories that came flooding back.
That prosodic dissonance part was so interesting. It gives a name to something that I've noticed alot. Especially in music with English lyrics written by non native English speakers. For example the music of Final Fantasy XIV has lots of English lyrics full of 'prosodic dissonance'. Probably because it's written by Japanese writers and the way they match syllables to notes is way different.
Linguist here. Japanese and English differ considerably in the way that stress works. In English, stressed syllables are longer, louder, higher in pitch, and contain more types of vowels compared to unstressed syllables. Meanwhile, Japanese is often cited as an example of a language which does not have stress. Rather, each syllable has either a high or low tone, and words can differ in the sequence of tones on syllables (e.g., all-low vs. low-high vs. high-low, etc.), but no syllable is obviously more prominent than any other. (By the way, this kind of system resembles tone systems found in West African languages much more closely than it resembles tone in Chinese languages.) As a consequence, prosodic dissonance in English is about misaligning musical and prosodic prominences, while prosodic dissonance in Japanese is probably about mismatching musical pitch changes and tonal pitch changes. It might be interesting to compare how prosodic dissonance is evaluated in languages where the primary correlate of stress is duration, loudness, pitch, and various combinations.
@@iancarpick7966 As a linguist, you should tell these people that Neely doesn't know anything about linguistics and constantly highlights lengthened unstressed syllables in singing as proceeding naturally from...shortened unstress syllables in spoken language.
Crazy thing is most of Final Fantasy XIV's lyrics are actually written by an American (Michael Christopher Koji Fox) and some of the singers are also American/British but it seems the prosodic dissonance is kept to honour the original written melodies for the songs which are indeed written by a Japanese person (Masayoshi Soken for unaware Adam Neely viewers reading this).
First time I run into your channel. This is a great video, well thought through and just thoroughly enough explained. Perfect balance between education and easy watching. Thank you very much!
Agreed! So many education-aspirants on UA-cam short-shrift the serious scholarship part, and a few fail on the entertainment quotient. Adam nails it--sought & got wrought in the middle?
My first thought when you started playing the montage was “Dio didn’t sing it like that!” haha, was very glad when you pointed out that this phrasing is pretty recent. Super interesting stuff, looking forward to seeing you in Philly this January!
I had the exact same reaction. Then I was perplexed after he played the cover by Rodney James Dio. Don't get me wrong, it was dead on perfection but, why haven't I heard of Rodney before and what else could I be missing out on? 🤔
I was going to bring this song up (and in fact I did, but deleted it) but you're right. It's "stuck in the middle", not "caught in the middle". LOL. :)
I said out loud at 1:28 “god dammit it’s like the scotch snap all over again, I’m gonna start seeing this everywhere” and then you compared the two at the end
Read your comment before seeing what that was and omg.... after Wakka Flakka came out and rapped EVERYTHING with that rhythm (made since at first because that's naturally how you say his name) and then Nikki Minaj and Cardi B copied him and popularized it with girl rappers and now it's EVERYWHERE and it breaks my brain as to why people can't come up with another rhythm lol.
Prodonic dissonance is very common in Spanish. The rules of enfasis are very strict, since the stressed vowel may decide the meaning of the word. "Trabajo" means "I work" (or just "work"), while "Trabajó" means "He worked". Therefore it annoys me when Enrique Iglesias and Juan Luis Guerra (whom I love) sing "Cuando me enamoro" ("When I fall i love"), actually sing "Cuando me enamoró" ("When he fell me in love"...). It makes no sense, because falling in love is reflexive in Spanish ("I fall myself in love"). This happens a lot, so in Spanish and Latin American pop music they have just decided intonation and stress of the spoken language don't matter, just follow the rythm.
Joni Mitchell's Chinese Café (1982) opens with the line 'caught in the middle'. It's over beats three and four and is straight 8th notes for 'caught in the', the notes starting on the 3rd degree and dropping to the 1st. Another older exception.
Accents are fascinating. The cot-caught merger I don't think can happen in broad Australian accents because the sounds and syllable lengths are too distinct
in the age of all the good video essayists gradually releasing videos that are erring on 3+ hours, it is nice to see a quick simple 11 minute video explaining a cool thing in a detailed yet easy to understand way dont get me wrong i love my 4 hour long video essays as much as the next guy but its nice to be able to finish a video in a single lunch break
The Caught - Cot similarity thing is perhaps more of a quirk of US accents. In the UK, across many very varied accents, the two are still very distinct
Oh, Adam, dirty pool! I spent the second half of the video composing an extremely witty post about the Stealer's Wheel song in the back of my mind. Alas, as usual, you were one step ahead of me. 🙂🎵
This was so fun to watch! I mean, it's not that your othet videos aren't, but this delivery of all those jokes actually made me crack up 😄 The comedy is gold, in the script and the delivery as well as the editing (but still you keep it interesting and informative as usual)! We're looking forward to seeing your gig in Finland next year 🪕🥁🎷🎹
I wanted that Coldplay analysis. The word trouble follows the same cadence as middle, rhymes too. That's why it's the origin of this modern phenomenon. Year 2000 baby.
I KNEW IT WAS FROM SOMETHING ELSE TOO, _THANK_ YOU! the price I now have to pay for that is that you just reawakened the part of my brain that tortures me by randomly going _"there's a girl there's a girl there's a girl there's a girl"_ at me and making me burst out with the next half of that line in public ffs
@@KindredBrujah I was about to say _"I don't think that's a very Scotch Snap-y song"_ but realised that the _first line_ ends with an iconic one (for me & my mates at least) 🤣 Plus it feels impossible not to sing that _"today"_ in Simon Neal's accent without it sounding off - has to be at least a little Scottish
Really rich content, I applaud the work and research you are doing for each one of your videos. I don't usually comment but this time I wanted to give you a cheer for the excellent work you are providing!! 🙌
really appreciate the mention of periphery here they're rarely brought up but they're fantastic song writers and this is the first thing I thought of when you mentioned this
Since I've listened to it alot lately, another "caught in the middle" exists in Two Faced by Linkin Park Edit: this comment was made prior to 1:08, laugh at my impatience 🤦
"Pleasures remain, so does THE pain", Enjoy the Silence, Depeche Mode. Back in school I had to search the lyrics to understand what Dave was singing because I couldn't imagine "the" being stressed.
I know Adam already mentioned it but I don't think anything beats "uncondiTIONally"...it's something that's pissed me off for years and now I know the word for it.
I once wrote a song in high school that said "shots fired in every direction", then a couple years later a famous band came out with a song that said "I'll search in every direction" in the exact same rhythm and placement and my line did. I felt validated but also like I missed an opportunity lol.
I appreciate the comparison with the older songs. Btw, Sungazer live is LIT. 🔥 The head bopping games to the rhythms, the music jokes and the vibes are just. 👌 Saw them a couple of months ago w/Plini.
When you said that English hasn't changed in the past 20 years, I was very tempted to immediately write that every language that is spoken has changed in the past 20 years. It's what languages do. They change. Glad I didn't type too quickly since you addressed that in point 2.
Just a note: at 9:16 you mention it's a particular phenomenon in this particular word, but actually it's a phenomenon that has to do with the phonemes and cot-caught is simply one of the minimal pairs that are lost due to it, it's not about these specific words.
This stuff is used as a trick to write melodies in electronic music. Even though most of them lack a consistent non-chopped vocal, a number of tracks have a certain title because their melody is the natural melody of their title. Title drops in movies are a clichee with mostly negative connotation, but these tracks pretty much _are_ their title.
Except he already mentioned another song that uses "stuck in the middle" at 2:35. There's no reason he should count it as a "different thing entirely". He should have included it in the section of older songs that don't quite match the pattern.
Thank you so much! Today I learned my biggest peeve in music - well, actually I hate it with a warm and sultry passion - is called "tone painting". And you hit it right on the head with the word "stop" as an example. 😂
@@burtreynolds2969 politics isn't everything, brocephus. people are allowed to have varied opinions. I mean you sound like the captain of the douchecanoe navy, but I might like the way you sing anyway. take that east bound and down, whydoncha - geeheehee! :)
@@purposefully.verbose People are allowed to have varied opinions sure, but spewing that garbage during a performance. Come on. No one wants to hear that shit at a concert. Just shut up and sing.
cod 🐟 in the meadow ☘️
Glad I'm not the only one hearing -that-. 0_0
and i'm just a little big cod in the minnow
try to keep growing but it's not that shrimple
The cog in the middle
Turducken of the sea
Cod in the meadow,
Bass in the streams…
Trout in the ocean,
Carp in my dreams…
omg!! I'm the guy showing the songs in the original Video! I don't think this is the way 16 year old me thought I would be featured in an Adam Neely video, but I'm here for it! Perfect analysis of our discovery🐟
It certainly is an entertaining observation.
Thank you for your service
congratz
looks like you got…
✨ *C A U G H T IN THE M I D D L E* ✨
Cool
To summarize, the repetition of the phrase "caught in the middle" legitimized it, and thus we can conclude that repetition does, in fact, legitimize.
I never really agreed with this rule but...well...I heard it a bunch of times and...
You can say that again!
But if I repeat "repetition does not legitimize" enough times...
@@mooncalf191 Don't do that. It'll break the spacetime continuum.
I was waiting for this to be said and I’m uncomfortable being left high and dry.
There is a specific aspect of English prosody at play here called stress-timing. In English speech, stressed syllables tend to occur at regular intervals. If there are two stressed syllables together, we'll leave a pause between them. If there are two unstressed syllables together, we'll say them quickly in order to fit them in before the next stressed syllable is due.
When you put English to music, that naturally leads to stressed syllables being on the beat and unstressed syllables being off the beat (or stressed syllables being on accented beats and unstressed on unaccented beats if you are singing slower). If you have two unstressed syllables together, you need to use shorter notes to fit them in. That explains the rhythm of "caught in the".
If you were singing in French, say, which is syllable-timed (all syllables are equally spaced, regardless of stress), you wouldn't see the same effect. The combination of lexical stress (stress is part of the word rather than following a standard pattern or just being for emphasis) and stress-timing in English gives rise to this phenomenon of particular sentences having particular inherent rhythms.
I came here to say this too. Stress timing is not a universal feature of language, even though it has a big effect on lyrics sung in English.
Thissssssss
I love that I just learned about this in my phonetics class. Who said you can’t study for a final watching UA-cam
6:12 Dio being the only one in the video to pronounce the "t" in "caught" is endlessly amusing to me.
I fown dat tiff I was "coh Tin thum iddle" ... I'd beesk aired? 🤔😆
Very much in character
And of course Adam called him "Rodney James Dio"
Damn I was going to say this after just the intro. I listened to that album so many times that I hear automatically "caught in the middle" like Dio sings it.
thats the only singer i heard singing the phrase. don't care to hear the rest of them
Cod and the minnow
Lmao I read that right as Hailey Williams sang it
Alternatively, "cod in the meadow"
Cod lobby
@@WhizPillOMG l thought there was something fishy about this.
Cod and the minnow indeed
adam’s never beating the chronically online allegations
Is that English?
@@johnsmith1474 to put it simply, yes
@@johnsmith1474 Middle english, if you will
I misread that as 'alligators'...
Context please?
new "the lick"-esque meme
meme repetition legitimizes
the lick for radio music
caught in the middle of a lick and a meme
Punctuate to seem adult, even if you are not.
gotta sing "caught in the middle" to the notes of the lick now
He’s back!!! 🎉
i love your videos david
back again? tell a friend?
Two musical geniuses
# "i was caught in-the-middle, but that STOPS....
.....Tonight"
HAMMER TIME!
And then 10 liccs uninterrupted
I never thought I’d be in an Adam Neely video 😂🙌 Thank you for spreading our message and for going deeper into this mystery. A beautiful analysis.
4:18 I think Björk singing in English in general it's a good example of prosodic dissonance. I once read (not sure if it's true) that she pretty much forces Icelandic rhythms into her English lyrics.
I used to not like her singing much because of the weird way she distributes the syllables in her melodies. Nowadays I think it actually adds a lot of magic to her singing style, because it can break our expectations from normal speech.
"[Regarding creative works,] never attribute to incompetence that which can be adequately explained by stylistic choice."
I kinda feel like all her melodies end up sounding the same
Meshuggah does that constantly and I always wonder if it’s because they’re Swedish or because it sounds more metal or just because even the words have to have a hard to follow rhythm lol
I see it exceptionally much when people try to transliterate Japanese songs into English and force the English words into the stress patterns of the Japanese lyrics, just search for the 'English version' of any Japanese song, from anime or otherwise, and you'll absolutely hear prosodic dissonance
English is my second language, and when I moved to Australia with my family and started writing songs as a teenager, I was frustrated because I didn't understand why my singing sounded 'weird'. The entire time it was prosody, which I learned about years later
I'm from the south of England and the caught-cot merger was completely new to me! Sound very different in our dialect!
It's not a British thing. Far more American, really. Same with the pen-pin merger.
Caught rhymes with court. You don't pronounce the 'r' in court. Well, unless you're American. By the way, thanks America, for spoiling the English language and subsequently getting the rest of the world to learn your bastardised way. This is why we can't have nice things. People spoil them.
From the UK too, and I really struggled to hear any of the vocals say "cod", it sounded like they were just talking about not pronouncing their t while singing lol.
From NZ - it sounds more like "cord in the middle" to me.
Stuck in the Middle - Stealers Wheel, just for another example of an earlier use of the phrase. Yes I know it’s “stuck” not “caught” but close enough
NO WAY YOU ACTUALLY MADE THE VIDEO LMFAO
i saw the og reel with your comment 💀
I just can imagine the "DUDE, WAIT" when the first guy noticed that the first time
As a linguistics student and musician, I have never felt anything even close to what i felt in the beginning of this video.
cumming?
I'm only one of those things (and just barely 😜) but I'm right there with ya...for a sec there I thought Adam was about to reveal the Matrix!
Same, I'm studying both and I was hooked from the start
Did you feel caught in the middle?
Most relatable comment of 2024 lmao
I love that you remembered Twelve Foot Ninja to put on this list! Amazing video, as always
Legends
i don't think i've ever said "i'm caught in the middle"
This video makes me feel extremely captive to the median
One could describe you as trapped within the centre, even
Suspended between two points.
@@Mefistophelees betwixt a rock and a hard place?
@@jakobmorningstar between Scylla and Charybdis?
@ precisely
I literally can't believe you used a clip from Project 86. I saw them in a high school gym in my sophomore year of high school. I almost passed out from all the memories that came flooding back.
Was listening while doing chores and was immediately recognized it. Surreal experience for such an underrated band
I hope I live to your age
@@martian8987 ☠☠☠
@@martian8987 ☠☠☠
That prosodic dissonance part was so interesting. It gives a name to something that I've noticed alot. Especially in music with English lyrics written by non native English speakers. For example the music of Final Fantasy XIV has lots of English lyrics full of 'prosodic dissonance'. Probably because it's written by Japanese writers and the way they match syllables to notes is way different.
Linguist here. Japanese and English differ considerably in the way that stress works. In English, stressed syllables are longer, louder, higher in pitch, and contain more types of vowels compared to unstressed syllables. Meanwhile, Japanese is often cited as an example of a language which does not have stress. Rather, each syllable has either a high or low tone, and words can differ in the sequence of tones on syllables (e.g., all-low vs. low-high vs. high-low, etc.), but no syllable is obviously more prominent than any other. (By the way, this kind of system resembles tone systems found in West African languages much more closely than it resembles tone in Chinese languages.)
As a consequence, prosodic dissonance in English is about misaligning musical and prosodic prominences, while prosodic dissonance in Japanese is probably about mismatching musical pitch changes and tonal pitch changes. It might be interesting to compare how prosodic dissonance is evaluated in languages where the primary correlate of stress is duration, loudness, pitch, and various combinations.
Great point!
I'm having a flashback to the FFVI opera scene
@@iancarpick7966 As a linguist, you should tell these people that Neely doesn't know anything about linguistics and constantly highlights lengthened unstressed syllables in singing as proceeding naturally from...shortened unstress syllables in spoken language.
Crazy thing is most of Final Fantasy XIV's lyrics are actually written by an American (Michael Christopher Koji Fox) and some of the singers are also American/British but it seems the prosodic dissonance is kept to honour the original written melodies for the songs which are indeed written by a Japanese person (Masayoshi Soken for unaware Adam Neely viewers reading this).
prosotic dissonance is awesome!!! thank you for bringing this terminology of one of my favorite artistic/linguistic concepts to a broader audience
First time I run into your channel.
This is a great video, well thought through and just thoroughly enough explained.
Perfect balance between education and easy watching.
Thank you very much!
Agreed! So many education-aspirants on UA-cam short-shrift the serious scholarship part, and a few fail on the entertainment quotient. Adam nails it--sought & got wrought in the middle?
My first thought when you started playing the montage was “Dio didn’t sing it like that!” haha, was very glad when you pointed out that this phrasing is pretty recent. Super interesting stuff, looking forward to seeing you in Philly this January!
I had the exact same reaction. Then I was perplexed after he played the cover by Rodney James Dio. Don't get me wrong, it was dead on perfection but, why haven't I heard of Rodney before and what else could I be missing out on? 🤔
@@walterworthy7494 lmaooo
Me too.
Absolutely Ronnie sings this in my head any time I see this phrase. What a legend he was.
I think Dio does kind of sing "caught in the middle" alternating between two notes in the chorus of Hollywood Black from 1993.
Prosody to the left of me, scotch snaps to the right. Here I am, caught? No. Stuck in the middle with you.
Ple e e e eeease, ple e e eeease.
I was going to bring this song up (and in fact I did, but deleted it) but you're right. It's "stuck in the middle", not "caught in the middle". LOL. :)
@@BrianHartman Same thing. I had to think twice to make sure I remembered it right.
It's SO GOOD to see London Grammar get featured. They're one of my favourite bands.
8:15 The fact that Adam knows about New jeans is awesome!!!
This is what we (don’t) pay you for, Adam. 🎉
I said out loud at 1:28 “god dammit it’s like the scotch snap all over again, I’m gonna start seeing this everywhere” and then you compared the two at the end
Read your comment before seeing what that was and omg.... after Wakka Flakka came out and rapped EVERYTHING with that rhythm (made since at first because that's naturally how you say his name) and then Nikki Minaj and Cardi B copied him and popularized it with girl rappers and now it's EVERYWHERE and it breaks my brain as to why people can't come up with another rhythm lol.
Of course here in Scotland we just call them “Snaps”
Wasn't ready to hear Adam Neely talk about coompression today
Dactyl Trochee is my favorite Sungazer b-side
Sungazer b-side is my favourite Dactyl Trochee
@@james.bartleyholy shit real
He's my favourite Star Wars bounty hunter.
@@james.bartley Whoa.
@@james.bartley We have to etch this in stone. Future humans must know that this occurred.
Prodonic dissonance is very common in Spanish. The rules of enfasis are very strict, since the stressed vowel may decide the meaning of the word. "Trabajo" means "I work" (or just "work"), while "Trabajó" means "He worked". Therefore it annoys me when Enrique Iglesias and Juan Luis Guerra (whom I love) sing "Cuando me enamoro" ("When I fall i love"), actually sing "Cuando me enamoró" ("When he fell me in love"...). It makes no sense, because falling in love is reflexive in Spanish ("I fall myself in love"). This happens a lot, so in Spanish and Latin American pop music they have just decided intonation and stress of the spoken language don't matter, just follow the rythm.
Thank you Adam for another fascinating discourse on popular music. I look forward to each one.
I prefer the interpretation "Cod in the meadow"
Can't breath.
Lady Mondegreen is calling and she's caught in the meadow.
You prefer.
Not quite on the same level as Hendrix singing "Scuze me while I kiss this guy" but still up there.
When you're a Cod gamer and someone tells you to touch grass so you just go outside and play Cod in the meadow
Clowns to left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am.
Caught in the middle with you
@@codechartreuse r/woosh
balatro
@@codechartreuseprove it
Are you on the left or the right, then...? 😁
Boom. Watch the vid next time or at least listen to the song. ;P
Joni Mitchell's Chinese Café (1982) opens with the line 'caught in the middle'. It's over beats three and four and is straight 8th notes for 'caught in the', the notes starting on the 3rd degree and dropping to the 1st. Another older exception.
Thanks
Accents are fascinating. The cot-caught merger I don't think can happen in broad Australian accents because the sounds and syllable lengths are too distinct
0:13 cod in the middle of
It makes me so happy that you took Twelve Foot Ninja as an example! Damn shame they're gone!
TWELVE FOOT NINJA MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️
Adam Neely's been busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking competition finding examples for this video
That caught me off guard! Was not expecting a TFN clip here!
what do you mean gone?! why do i have to find this out here 😭
Now I'm trying to figure out how *I* am aware of 12 foot ninja.
Is it because guitar? That alternate tuning/pitch shifting system?
in the age of all the good video essayists gradually releasing videos that are erring on 3+ hours, it is nice to see a quick simple 11 minute video explaining a cool thing in a detailed yet easy to understand way
dont get me wrong i love my 4 hour long video essays as much as the next guy but its nice to be able to finish a video in a single lunch break
Exactly my thoughts when I saw this was uploaded at the beginning of my 30 minute break
Four Year Strong showing up in an Adam Neely video is a pleasant surprise
As soon as the video started I asked myself: "will stuck in the middle pop up?"
I was NOT expecting you to pull up a Stryper reference. Good ol christian hairmetal 🤘😝🤘
The Caught - Cot similarity thing is perhaps more of a quirk of US accents. In the UK, across many very varied accents, the two are still very distinct
The way prosody interacts with musical rhythmic structures is so magical. Thanks for the fun video!
Oh, Adam, dirty pool! I spent the second half of the video composing an extremely witty post about the Stealer's Wheel song in the back of my mind. Alas, as usual, you were one step ahead of me. 🙂🎵
I can only imagine how difficult it was to say the line at 3:10
4:50 i have a condishawn
This was so fun to watch! I mean, it's not that your othet videos aren't, but this delivery of all those jokes actually made me crack up 😄 The comedy is gold, in the script and the delivery as well as the editing (but still you keep it interesting and informative as usual)! We're looking forward to seeing your gig in Finland next year 🪕🥁🎷🎹
I wanted that Coldplay analysis. The word trouble follows the same cadence as middle, rhymes too. That's why it's the origin of this modern phenomenon. Year 2000 baby.
I was gonna say Trouble seems to be the patient zero.
If you’re Biffy Clyro, this is the “Down by the river” rule
True! Omg. It's everywhere, like the Pachabel canon.
I KNEW IT WAS FROM SOMETHING ELSE TOO, _THANK_ YOU!
the price I now have to pay for that is that you just reawakened the part of my brain that tortures me by randomly going _"there's a girl there's a girl there's a girl there's a girl"_ at me and making me burst out with the next half of that line in public ffs
It's time to consider that baby is a sinner
They are Scottish, though, so perhaps the Scotch Snap is more likely there?
@@KindredBrujah I was about to say _"I don't think that's a very Scotch Snap-y song"_ but realised that the _first line_ ends with an iconic one (for me & my mates at least) 🤣
Plus it feels impossible not to sing that _"today"_ in Simon Neal's accent without it sounding off - has to be at least a little Scottish
I saw your comment on the reel where you said you might make a video about it and I've been anticipating this. Didn't think it would come so soon!
Same! Impressively speedy!
I got that Solar Sands easter egg about the snake eating itself 😅😊
Really rich content, I applaud the work and research you are doing for each one of your videos. I don't usually comment but this time I wanted to give you a cheer for the excellent work you are providing!! 🙌
This came up on my Instagram, and I appreciate that you're covering this!
so glad you mention Dio and Yngvie
just like the wayyyy you’ve always beeeeeen
Ronnie (R.I.P.) NOT Rodney
Yes, I was going to bring up Dio, but he did and I'm just showing my age :). 20 years, ha.
@@atomicsun72 I had to listen three times and still couldn’t decide if he said Rodney or just said Ronnie really badly lol.
@@atomicsun72 I also caught that and chuckled
really appreciate the mention of periphery here they're rarely brought up but they're fantastic song writers and this is the first thing I thought of when you mentioned this
"they're rarely brought up" Yeah. It's like they exist on some sort of outskirt of the mainstream music. In the periphery, if you will.
lame estrodjent twink metal
estrodjent twink metal
AJEHEUDHSHBRIWW PERIPHERY MENTIONED I WAS THINKING EXACTLY OF THIS
Since I've listened to it alot lately, another "caught in the middle" exists in Two Faced by Linkin Park
Edit: this comment was made prior to 1:08, laugh at my impatience 🤦
Im so glad im subscribed. Prosody is a word Ive needed for so long and now I know it. Thanks Adam Neely!
Deepest Coldplay line: Cod in the Meadow
Dio is a master of using pronunciation to evoke energy. Love to find him in one of your videos.
I feel like this video was a dare on quoting the most pop-songs without getting demontized.
demontized 😅
8:07 Ahh yes, “Soulja Boy” by Pretty Boy Swag
Always appreciate seeing a random inclusion of Project 86 in the wild.
One exception you didn't mention is Piano in the Dark by Brenda Russell, where she says "caught UP in the middle," thus avoiding the trap I guess.
I came here to say this too! It’s also a badass song as well!
"when the rain wash-es you clean" in Fleetwood Mac's Dreams is the biggest prosodically dissonant phrase in popular music i reckon
"Pleasures remain, so does THE pain", Enjoy the Silence, Depeche Mode. Back in school I had to search the lyrics to understand what Dave was singing because I couldn't imagine "the" being stressed.
My vote is for the word Serengeti in Toto's Africa, sARRR-nget-eeeee
I know Adam already mentioned it but I don't think anything beats "uncondiTIONally"...it's something that's pissed me off for years and now I know the word for it.
I find Everywhere, also by Fleetwood, very dissonant as well. The way they pronounce the title
Jennifer Lopez in the song 'Feel The Light' has a very big dissonance on the last word in "Remember what we forgot"
“AsSES not ASSes! You put the wrong emPHAsis on wrong sylLABle!” 😂
Incredible video. Nice editing and motion graphics!
Did not ever expect to see Project 86 pop up in an Adam Neely video - hell yeah
I once wrote a song in high school that said "shots fired in every direction", then a couple years later a famous band came out with a song that said "I'll search in every direction" in the exact same rhythm and placement and my line did. I felt validated but also like I missed an opportunity lol.
In the middle, caught you are.
--John Yoda, Starwalker
Great example of music letting you “feel thoughts”. Thanks for the video.
Isn’t it Songs make you feel thoughts.
I appreciate the comparison with the older songs.
Btw, Sungazer live is LIT. 🔥 The head bopping games to the rhythms, the music jokes and the vibes are just. 👌
Saw them a couple of months ago w/Plini.
Sitting here feeling dumb after being reminded the Steelers Wheel lyrics is _"Stuck_ in the middle with you". 🤣
This is so Adam Neely and we love it. 💕💕🎉
I don't really know why is it in my recommendations but I watched it till the end while in bed. Great job!
the Janelle Monae "come" emphasis is pretty genius
I thought she was saying "congression" this whole time... I didn't know what it meant but it was provocative
@@AbiSaysThings Every prosodically dissonant line is a misheard lyric in the making
It's ok, nobody knows what it means
When you said that English hasn't changed in the past 20 years, I was very tempted to immediately write that every language that is spoken has changed in the past 20 years. It's what languages do. They change. Glad I didn't type too quickly since you addressed that in point 2.
Now I wanna make a song with "Called in the Midwife"
Just a note: at 9:16 you mention it's a particular phenomenon in this particular word, but actually it's a phenomenon that has to do with the phonemes and cot-caught is simply one of the minimal pairs that are lost due to it, it's not about these specific words.
Phenomenal comment about this phoneme phenomenon
I heard it as “hey this word is even mentioned as a prototypical example in the name of the term” but yeah he said it quite ambiguously.
@@JebusankelA phonemenon, if you will.
I just assumed that people who make caught sound like cot are all from Minnesota.
@@bebopisthetruth It's a majority of NA English speakers, buddy.
1:07 i clicked this video for this reason
This stuff is used as a trick to write melodies in electronic music. Even though most of them lack a consistent non-chopped vocal, a number of tracks have a certain title because their melody is the natural melody of their title. Title drops in movies are a clichee with mostly negative connotation, but these tracks pretty much _are_ their title.
Wow! What a great analysis! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT SONG FROM RESERVOIR DOGS
I'm here for the smarts. I'd love to see Adam discuss why everyone sings "angel" as Ain JELLL.
I was literally typing the "what about...?" comment when he mentioned it. How embarrassing.
yep, it was royal blood who i remembered
Except he already mentioned another song that uses "stuck in the middle" at 2:35. There's no reason he should count it as a "different thing entirely". He should have included it in the section of older songs that don't quite match the pattern.
Thanks for letting me know about this cliche before I wind up using it in one of my songs.
It's making me feel a lot better about having some unoriginal lines in my songs
Dude this was a great video. Much appreciated man!
Cot in tha middo
"stuck in the middle with you" is also a pretty good example of the unsyncopated style you talked about
Watch the end of the video
You fool
Did you comment before watching to the end?
oh no
Pfffftttt
Caught in the middle is the new lick
Was not expecting a Project 86 clip, that brought back some memories
Extra credit for referencing the band Conditions.
Hats off to you.
Yooooo! 0:16 12 Foot Freakin Ninja 🤘🤘🤘
My thoughts exactly!!!
And a nod to Periphery at 1:45... They should have a barbecue music video again lmao
Yassssssss!!!! Adam really does have great taste ❤
6:05 I coulda swore he called Dio "Rodney" lol
Adam Neely posts and I'm here for it
Tietosuojavastaava?
"Cod In The Vittles", from the album, "We just wanted to play some background whilst doing laundry, it's not that serious to us".
Thank you so much! Today I learned my biggest peeve in music - well, actually I hate it with a warm and sultry passion - is called "tone painting". And you hit it right on the head with the word "stop" as an example. 😂
I love Hayley Williams
Did you love her pathetic scripted anti-Trump rant during one of her shows? Yeah, that worked out well.
@@burtreynolds2969 politics isn't everything, brocephus. people are allowed to have varied opinions. I mean you sound like the captain of the douchecanoe navy, but I might like the way you sing anyway. take that east bound and down, whydoncha - geeheehee! :)
@@purposefully.verbose People are allowed to have varied opinions sure, but spewing that garbage during a performance. Come on. No one wants to hear that shit at a concert. Just shut up and sing.
We loved her more because of it ❤ @@burtreynolds2969
Please do a whole video on Ian Anderson’s “prosody”. (Or just another video about bizarro prosody in general.)
Literally thinking about Stealers Wheel and then you mentioned it.
Two friends of mine always sang 'And your friendly uncle Colin' for the line 'And your friends, they all come crawling'... hilarious.