Improper sanding between coats of finish- HOW TO AVOID IT!

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  • @StumpyNubs
    @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому +11

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  • @PhysicalEd1
    @PhysicalEd1 9 місяців тому +24

    I'm only 2 years into my wood working adventure and it was youtubers that triggered this new found passion(and thousands of dollars that my wife isnt fully clear where I have spent). Some youtubers and their influence on me has come and gone rather quickly. I saw your videos early on, but they weren't the ones that hooked me or particularly interested me. Not flashy, not sensational, and most egregious, no promises of "make easy money with pallet wood". I wanted to make easy money and I wanted it to be easy. Well...
    However, as I progressed and got more serious about what I was doing I quickly realized where true value existed. Your videos by contrast were down to the point, well reasoned, and you explain not just what to do but WHY you would want to do it/not do it and what to look out for. Something I have grown to greatly appreciate. So many times as someone getting into this environment you literally don't know what you don't know.
    Out of all the youtubers out there you have consistently been the most informative. When I scour youtube for answers to a question I have and your video turns up in a result--it is the first one I click on now adays. While it may not be the highest praise; I consider you amongst the best out there.

  • @Mati_C8
    @Mati_C8 9 місяців тому +57

    I'm never calling myself a perfectionist again

  • @TheBinaryWolf
    @TheBinaryWolf 2 роки тому +56

    I really appreciate how articulate your presentations are...no filler, just useful info...a real delight...the best!

  • @cforestmills
    @cforestmills 2 роки тому +15

    You just spoke centuries of wood wisdom. In less than 7 minutes. It is official. I am old. Because I loved every second of it.
    Thank you.

    • @DaniGrainger
      @DaniGrainger 2 роки тому +2

      lol he is the wood wisdom shaman!

  • @tigersunruss
    @tigersunruss 3 роки тому +8

    You're the guy we all want next door to help us on a whim, but glad we all have youtube and you're here.

  • @scottmorris4914
    @scottmorris4914 3 роки тому +64

    The brown paper bag works great, use it all the time. When I sand, at least after the first coat, I find I can actually feel and hear a change in the sound when the finish has become smooth.

  • @text2drive
    @text2drive 3 роки тому +47

    I think I learn more here than anywhere else. Clear, concise, well researched. Nice work.

    • @AshPagelsdorf42
      @AshPagelsdorf42 Рік тому +2

      100% agree, this guy should do TEDtalks! he is thee most perfect speaker i have seen!

  • @simonlangevin5599
    @simonlangevin5599 Рік тому +1

    What a nice guy, so articulated. I dont even speak english and I understand every single thing the guy says.
    I would pay for your friendship
    Love your videos, you'r the man James

  • @rogerharris8081
    @rogerharris8081 3 роки тому +5

    For my final rubdown, a piece of wool sweater provides the right amount of abrasion to the finish. Thanks for the paper bag suggestion too. After reading many of the readers comments, I am probably the only person on earth that that had never heard of the paper bag trick!

  • @jimtinter4397
    @jimtinter4397 2 роки тому +12

    Outstanding video! Everything about your video was top notch. Excellent quality audio, lighting and background. No jokes or side comments. Got right to the point. Explained things in a clear, coherent manner with no vocal ticks (ahs, ums, so, etc...). Thank you and keep up the great work!

  • @jacob_krause_official7286
    @jacob_krause_official7286 5 місяців тому +1

    Man I wish every teacher I ever had taught the way you did in this video. I love the way you present the information here, never change!

  • @dariogerardi4587
    @dariogerardi4587 6 місяців тому +2

    You are the goat of woodworking information on UA-cam

  • @JonneytheKidd
    @JonneytheKidd 2 роки тому +3

    This guy is just amazing. So much clarity in his presentation. I am not a woodworking guy. Just needed to finish an unfinished butcher block for a desk set up.

  • @chrisammann4041
    @chrisammann4041 3 роки тому +9

    I learn so much from these. What I appreciate is the logical and sensible reasons given behind every tip.

  • @cagecatchum3001
    @cagecatchum3001 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Perfect pace. No annoying background music. Excellent speaker. Thank you. It is very helpful.

  • @Stradigos
    @Stradigos Рік тому +3

    This was an incredibly informative and efficient video. Not a word wasted!

  • @johnurtu7844
    @johnurtu7844 Рік тому +2

    Mr. Stumpy Nubs, your GOOD! I watch a lot of how to videos. Your good. Your very clear, concise, and give every thing you need to know to get a process done right. You don’t go too fast. You don’t bore with needless minutiae. Thanks all the great tips and great product and tool suggestions.

  • @shannons2620
    @shannons2620 2 роки тому +2

    Such an informative video. I'm refinishing a wood floor in my house and couldn't figure out why on earth I'm supposed to sand between coats of finish. Every instructional video or article recommends sanding but doesn't give a reason why. Now I know! I appreciate the time you put into making this video so clear and informative.

  • @arehay
    @arehay Рік тому +1

    I've been professionally staining for years and learned a ton from this video, thanks sir!

  • @josher-ch6sf
    @josher-ch6sf 3 роки тому +7

    Great tip on the brown paper bag! We use that method often in the cabinetry shop I work at!

    • @robertbamford8266
      @robertbamford8266 3 роки тому

      As a result of the pandemic and no shopper-supplied bags at the supermarket, we have a supply of brown paper bags - probably sufficient for the next 5 years.

  • @stevenworthington8887
    @stevenworthington8887 2 роки тому

    Finally I get the info I’ve been looking for. I keep hearing that fast drying is good to go to the next coat in 2-3 hours, now it all makes sense.

  • @ginger2lily
    @ginger2lily 3 місяці тому

    Compliments on such a clear, logical presentation. And I endorse all the wonderful comments too - doesn't leave much to say!

  • @sergioalfaro4803
    @sergioalfaro4803 8 місяців тому +1

    Carboard instead of 1500 worked really good for my ikea pine dresser finish. Smooth and nice

  • @basilayish3689
    @basilayish3689 2 роки тому +3

    Great description of how the oil poly drying process effects the finish (ie shrinking) and should be applied in lighter coats for the final step. Also like the paper bag buffing tip. Keep those deep dives coming...

  • @nazpasfred3
    @nazpasfred3 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for this tutorial. I’ve struggled understanding the process of so many coats of finish. Now I know the why as well as how to apply the finish. Thanks!

  • @PL-jm8ew
    @PL-jm8ew Рік тому

    These videos are educational and address issues that may spare you a future headache

  • @willarmstrong398
    @willarmstrong398 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for coaching me through my first height adjustable BIG wood desk and project. I love the no nonsense information style as opposed to trying terribly hard to be funny.

  • @Flow_OG
    @Flow_OG Рік тому

    Brother I can’t thank you enough. I never did hardwood floors and your tips was a life saver. Next I’m gonna tackle an epoxy floor woot woot 🎉

  • @dogloverules
    @dogloverules 5 місяців тому

    I love watching your videos! Please know how important your information is especially to a "newbie" like me. THANK YOU!

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking 3 роки тому

    Now this is the video I needed. I stopped sanding between coats and moved to using a piece of cardboard to knock off the nibs, because even with 400 grit I was getting scratches. I also started covering my projects while they dry with a tub with a few holes drilled into the very bottom. I created a lazy susan style tray to help avoid touching the project too. One day I wan't to get an HVLP system, but for now it is mostly wiping on thinned down finishes. I've also started doing my finishing on a pop-up table inside the house, because the humidity and temps are all over the place in my shed, and it makes drying time so unpredictable. It was 91 with 86% humidity in my shed today. No amount of fans can help that become a reasonable place for finishing.

  • @mikekeerdoja7541
    @mikekeerdoja7541 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, your advice is helping me out a lot! I'm having a tough time learning about sanding finishes just by doing it.

  • @rickbrenneman3913
    @rickbrenneman3913 3 роки тому +1

    I saw Paul Sellers use a card scraper real light to remove dust nibs. I tried it on my last project and it worked real well.

    • @JohnLadan
      @JohnLadan 3 роки тому

      I tried a card scraper to remove the raised grain after a first coat of shellac, and it worked really well. The dust nibs came off well with a scotch-brite pad.

    • @kevola5739
      @kevola5739 3 роки тому

      I wonder how much of the card scraper is skill. I have seen Paul Sellers do a lot of things that make me look like Peter Sellers (Pink Panther) when I attempt them.

  • @Gregory-qu1ct
    @Gregory-qu1ct 4 місяці тому

    I have messed up polyurethane so many times. This info fixes most of my poly problems but i will mostly use shellac in the future for the simplicity.

  • @justaguyonthefly
    @justaguyonthefly Рік тому

    Well that was a boat load of information! Have 3 pages of notes. Probably gonna watch this video at least 4-5 more times as I get ready for a finish. Great video as always, thank you Stumpy!

  • @maximusmarine
    @maximusmarine Рік тому

    Some videos just get right to the answers you need. This is a great one

  • @johnlp3376
    @johnlp3376 3 роки тому

    Well I just learned why my finish work isn't the best thanks. I been sanding wrong. Keep spreading the knowledge really appreciate it.

  • @hellbent4bass
    @hellbent4bass 2 роки тому +2

    +1 for the brown paper bag. I use it every time with poly. On large projects I glue a piece of cardboard to an old piece of sand sandpaper on the orbital sander - just watch out over working/over heating an area. Glass smooth every time.

  • @michaelphelps1083
    @michaelphelps1083 Рік тому

    Good Expertise. I feel more inclined to trust someone who is in the field doing the work on the day to day. This guy has put in the time and dedication to know what he is talking about. I appreciate the good information. Keep up the great work.

  • @photohounds
    @photohounds 3 роки тому +1

    My dad used similar procedures. Once again you show why in glad I listened to him (and why watch your channel)

  • @robw2379
    @robw2379 3 роки тому +3

    I like to use 320 paper on a soft block after the first coat, 00 steel wool to grab the nibs, and 0000 for the final buffing. Good video. Your points about recoat times are excellent.

    • @EdwardPasternak
      @EdwardPasternak Рік тому

      I remember my grandfather teaching me this after I put together a set of shelves and put on the first coat of polyurethane. He was inspecting it, turn to me and said "Looks nice. Looks really nice. Do you want to make it look better?" I responded with "Why yes I do!" and he proceeded to tell me about using steel wool to smooth it out, get rid of bubbles, and really shine. 25 years and several moves later they still look great.

  • @lauram9076
    @lauram9076 3 роки тому

    Very interesting. In 40yrs of woodworking, I had never heard about finish shrinkage. Good to know!

  • @timholstpetersen79
    @timholstpetersen79 Рік тому

    Greetings from Denmark. Love your channel. Factual and knowledgeable.

  • @billyjay4672
    @billyjay4672 3 роки тому

    Glad I watch your videos or blogs at least you learn something new each time I appreciate that for what it's worth. Billy from Scotland.uk.

  • @joeldennis1
    @joeldennis1 3 дні тому

    Great video! Very helpful and well spoken.

  • @davidnorton9997
    @davidnorton9997 3 роки тому

    Once again proving that I didn't know what I was doing. Or not fully. Thanks for the info

  • @susanwoodcarver
    @susanwoodcarver 3 роки тому +13

    You explained this SO well!! Thank you!

  • @lancew3363
    @lancew3363 3 роки тому

    The brown paper bag trick works fantastic!! I have a project that I just couldn't get quite smooth and was just living with it. Tried the brown paper bag and it's smooth as glass without having to recoat. Talk about a lifesaver!

  • @tpaine1815
    @tpaine1815 2 роки тому +1

    Many thanks for this clear instructional guide. I have two laminated counter tops to poly and you have added a few extra steps to my process that I think will really make a difference to the final finish.

  • @BarnJ
    @BarnJ Рік тому

    Very helpful, thanks. I love woodworking but am terrible at finishing. This really helped me out on a large mirror frame I just finished.

  • @MrSharper802
    @MrSharper802 3 роки тому

    Good post. My only addition is lacquer dissolves into itself and dries quickly. This allows multiple thin coats to be laid down successively before needing to sand. I prefer a sealer coat of shellac that raises the grain, sand with 320, lay down 3 coats of spray lacquer, then sand with 600 or 800 grit, then a final thinned coat. From there you let the finish cure for a couple weeks and sand/ buff to whatever sheen you desire.

  • @sally-3830
    @sally-3830 2 роки тому

    First time diy staining/ polyurethane(ing?) project table & this advise saved my project, thank you👍🏼

  • @dianadollar758
    @dianadollar758 2 роки тому

    New Subscriber here🙋🏼‍♀️ You are my Gordon Ramsay of woodworking! So thankful for your content and expertise!!! You’re my number one go-to guy! 😃

  • @jayscott306
    @jayscott306 3 роки тому

    I've been doing most of what you demonstrated, but never had it explained so well. Now, with a better understanding, I can explain those times I had unsatisfactory results or a hiccup in my process. I may be a turner, but I find so much useful theory in your videos. Thank you for that.
    On your recent spindle roughing gouge video I was ready to scrutinize your video. Nothing to critique. Just good information. And, the next day, I put down my skew and grabbed the SRG just for fun.

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому

      Since I am not a pro turner, I am sure there are plenty of things you could add to my turning tutorials. However, I am also speaking to an audience of beginners, and it is important to keep things simple. :)

  • @BPollard86
    @BPollard86 2 роки тому

    My first real project, a garage workbench/cabinet made of construction plywood and 2x4s, has a pine needle embedded in the poly... Lots of lessons learned on that cabinet.

  • @Ttommydrums
    @Ttommydrums 4 місяці тому

    Thank you so very much for sharing your hard learned skills. I greatly appreciate it. Kind Regards, Tom Pollock

  • @michaelharrington6291
    @michaelharrington6291 2 роки тому

    That paper bag tip! Thank you for all you’ve provided!!

  • @danishazhar8566
    @danishazhar8566 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the insights! I will use the tricks you mentioned and hopefully next project looks better.

  • @georgehaneke6608
    @georgehaneke6608 2 роки тому +1

    As usual.... a great, simple, helpful video on a critical part of any woodworking project..... Thanks for the help.....

  • @matthewrose8976
    @matthewrose8976 3 роки тому

    Thank you! I suck at finish, but these kinds of tips help me, so much!

  • @brettbarager9101
    @brettbarager9101 7 місяців тому +1

    Gratifying to know I'm doing something right!

  • @keithpantermoller328
    @keithpantermoller328 Рік тому

    Great video, very informative. I use oil based poly thinned 50% and apply it with bakers linen cloth. That cuts down on the lint dust that is always there. In between coats I sand with crocus cloth. The crocus cloth has no appreciable grit and does a good job of polishing away the roughness on the poly. I can use the crocus on the final coat with no scratches. Course I’m sanding very lightly. The only issue is it’s hard to find and expensive. But a sheet can be reused over and over. Keith

  • @therep49er
    @therep49er 3 роки тому +3

    I love the amount of detail and explanation you put into these tutorials. I have learned a bunch from since I started "self teaching" myself woodworking a couple years ago. I mostly do "artsy" stuff and carvings. But MANY of your tips apply!
    I am also considering a Harvey table saw after your review. The only thing I don't like about them is where they are manufactured. I may have to get over that though, because, my garage shop gets very humid. The chances of condensation are much higher. That's terrible for cast iron. But the tin coating on a Harvey really helps minimize that issue!

  • @jimadams6159
    @jimadams6159 3 роки тому +3

    Very glad to have found your channel. I like your presentation style and the really useful tips. I now know what I did wrong when treating our kitchen work tops and what I can do to improve them.

  • @swbccs
    @swbccs 4 місяці тому

    I appreciate your making this video. You have a way of explaining things so clearly that us new to woodworking Boomers can understand, so thank you very much. Please tem=ll me what you use to apply your finishes? It looks like some kind of cloth.

  • @froglobster
    @froglobster 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU FOR THE BROWN PAPER BAG! I just turned a maple table into a Varathane espresso and I was disappointed at the expected smoothness. A brown paper bag made the difference especially with this being a strictly one coat plan even on the can.

  • @mariushegli
    @mariushegli 3 роки тому +1

    I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

  • @mkscustomcreations1061
    @mkscustomcreations1061 2 роки тому

    Great advice and the perfect process for poly.

  • @johnduffy6546
    @johnduffy6546 3 роки тому

    love the brown paper bag trick! Have used it for years. Works great!

  • @einzigkeit7216
    @einzigkeit7216 7 місяців тому

    Great tips, I've a hard wood table which I will apply water based polyurethane varnish, will try you method. Thanks a lot.

  • @MegaWeagle
    @MegaWeagle 3 роки тому +1

    Brown paper bag is a great tip. I have also found a brown coffee filter works amazing as well. We have one of those giant warehouse membership stores that sell them at a great price.

  • @micahned
    @micahned 3 роки тому +1

    Your videos just keep getting better and better! Keep them coming

  • @iancheyne2672
    @iancheyne2672 2 роки тому

    Very clear, very concise, and very helpful...thank you. My next guitar body/neck will benefit enormously!

  • @creamynessification
    @creamynessification 3 роки тому

    Exactly what i was looking for after so many not so specific videos!

  • @jsburklow
    @jsburklow 3 роки тому +1

    James you are a master. Great information as always. I will be using the paper bag trick for sure. Thank you again

  • @youngprince716
    @youngprince716 2 роки тому

    What a great video as a stone Mason I can tell ya I'm thankful for the little tricks you added. There's plenty of them in masonry too and I know it took me a lot of years to lesrn some. Those guys are greedy with info sometimes. I feel like a pro after watching this thank u!

  • @joshneill6057
    @joshneill6057 Рік тому

    Love the video and the way you teach, I wish it was more informative like an hour long on sanding

  • @CunninghamFurniture
    @CunninghamFurniture 3 роки тому +1

    Always learn something new and necessary with your videos!

  • @christopherl1990
    @christopherl1990 Рік тому

    EXACTLY the information I’ve been searching for. Thank you!

  • @Ben-bs6qv
    @Ben-bs6qv 2 роки тому

    I never comment, but your videos are excellent.

  • @kerrygibbs8198
    @kerrygibbs8198 3 роки тому +1

    This will help improve my projects. Thank You for the professional advice, as usual!

  • @brucejohnson1264
    @brucejohnson1264 3 роки тому

    I never got a smooth finish (without spraying) until I started doing two things. Sanding with 400+ grit VERY lightly (just enough to smooth out the bumps) between coats, and then using VERY thin coats for the topcoats.It should be just enough to wet the surface, and no more. If it's thin enough, it will dry EXTREMELY fast. Bubbles can't form in a layer that thin and because it dries so quickly ,dust isn't too much of a problem. Thinning the poly for the topcoats helps too.

  • @michaelmcnicholl608
    @michaelmcnicholl608 3 роки тому

    Daniel used your brown paper bag sanding method on the coffee bar countertop he made for us. I thought that was pretty clever. I know he must have learned it from you. Anyhow it turned out beautiful. Thanks for teaching him Jim. I know he appreciates what he learned from you.

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому

      Hope he's getting along well!

  • @patrickweckermann9121
    @patrickweckermann9121 3 роки тому

    While more applicable to finishing on a lathe, a handful of shavings from the lathe (or plane) does a great job. Never heard of the paper bag trick... worth a shot!

  • @jimcooney9019
    @jimcooney9019 3 роки тому

    it was good to hear you bring up the paper bag treatment and I like to finish up using polish. very cool thanks for sharing your video

  • @steelball6543
    @steelball6543 3 місяці тому

    Outstanding presentation and information man!!!!!💪

  • @nitro105
    @nitro105 3 роки тому

    Love your videos and I’m a mechanic , not a wood worker!

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford8266 3 роки тому

    Excellent. All the facts with specific suggestions that can be used by just about anyone. Thanks for the video!

  • @richragan4810
    @richragan4810 3 роки тому

    Thank you James! Such valuable tips I have learned!

  • @skyhookspirits
    @skyhookspirits 2 роки тому +3

    One critical addition to sanding between coats I believe you should mention is using a Tac rag to remove dust and debris particles.
    Tac rags are a sticky cheese cloth which when lightly rubbed over the wood's surface remove any contaminating particles. Most hardware or stores like Lowe's or Home Depot carry them. They are cheap and very effective.

    • @TheBinaryWolf
      @TheBinaryWolf Рік тому

      No doubt he would use a tack cloth. Even masters overlook a detail now and then.

  • @ashleywright8686
    @ashleywright8686 3 роки тому

    What an informative video. Thank you for your time explaining to us newbies.

  • @markb8954
    @markb8954 3 роки тому

    Great Video. Appreciate all the tips n tricks. Keep the info coming our way.

  • @danielkiefer4428
    @danielkiefer4428 3 роки тому

    Excellent video! I'd also be interested in learning more about the different kinds of wood finishes and how to decide which to choose.

    • @jimgirtman3136
      @jimgirtman3136 2 роки тому

      Great job!
      Thanks for sharing.
      I have just finished all the preping and staining our kitchen cabinets.
      Now ready for the final coats of polyurethane.
      So i did s SEARCH and found your video. Again great job!
      Thank you!

  • @traillesstravelled7901
    @traillesstravelled7901 3 роки тому

    Someone showed me that "buffing" with brown cardboard, has saved my bacon more than I can remember. Excellent way to finish up!

  • @badwolf4456
    @badwolf4456 Рік тому

    This covered everything I needed. Thank you! You rock!

  • @makermark67
    @makermark67 3 роки тому

    Great finishing tips, James. You're cranking them out !! Thanks!

  • @markhedquist9597
    @markhedquist9597 3 роки тому +3

    You had me at "boogers".
    And, also, thanks for all the tips. I'm delving in to different finishes and need ALL the help I can get. I will definitely use these methods you've described!

  • @robertbobotkac7914
    @robertbobotkac7914 3 роки тому +6

    What I do, is wet the surface a sand again with fine sandoaper and repeat 2-3 times…after that you dont need to sand the coat..

  • @MKimble515
    @MKimble515 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for this video! I really wanted to, needed to, learn this!

  • @marlenepolicastro4879
    @marlenepolicastro4879 2 місяці тому

    Extremely helpful video. Quick question - I see you applying the finish with a rag vs a brush. Is that just for the final coat? Please & thank you!