Free Lawn Boy mower won't start
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This free LawnBoy mower doesn't want to start and the reason is extremely uncommon. The fix was fairly easy though. - Авто та транспорт
I’ve owned a Lawn-Boy for at least 20 years and it has never given me a problem. It has always started on the first or second pull and ran great.
thank you for vouching for them
I'm still pulling the string as we speak 😅 but maybe it actually started and the motor has a silencer on it ;0
LawnBoy mower is the best. Great job on that free mower!
I agree and thanks!
I’ve sold this exact mower twice now for $120-$150. Got one for free today and the choke linkage was messed up so thanks for your video!!
Glad I could help
The strength of this video was the excellent closeup and explanation after 5:27 of the correct choke linkage geometry and how to accomplish it. The issue crops up whenever the carb has to be removed for any reason. The throttle linkage is easy to take off and put on, but it's easy to forget how to do the choke linkage if you don't do it all the time. Not a user friendly design, in my opinion! And the bolt spacer is another problem: The spacer appears to drop out of nowhere, so thanks for the reminder of its proper placement.
you are exactly right, I find it to be very tough to take off and put back on.
This brings back memories! I used a lawn boy when I was a lot younger! As always, great work and I look forward to the next repair.
Lawnboys were made at the OMC plant in Petterborough Canada. They designed and built their two cycle engines in house, and built them tough like an outboard motor. A great majority but no tall used a magnesium frame for lightness, aluminum for rough service commercial and the last of the cheap ones had stamped steel ( stamping were farmed out to MTD ).
I don't know about the USA but you could buy a Viking at Eatons and it was a black and yellow Lawnboy. You could buy a brown Mastercraft at Canadian tire and it was a lawn boy too.
But this thing is not a Lawnboy.
This thing you see before is a ghost.
The frame is stamped by who knows out of cheap tincanium and the engine is a Chinese copy of a Honda GXV 140 engine. The trade mark Lawnboy was bought by Toro when OMC went bankrupt in 1990.
Chinese engines are much maligned, but they do not deserve it keep them clean change the oil and take care of it and its a pretty good engine for the price.
Stamped steel frame will need attention to keep it from rusting out.
Wheels are pretty cheap be prepared to replace them as they wobble and wear out.
Buy a good blade keep it sharp.
But its not a Lawnboy.
Thank you!
they have definitely changed in the last 20 years.
I am on my second lawn boy mower since 1995, the first one lasted 17 years. 😊 I have had my second one for 10 years now. Not one problem out of either one.. I'll never own anything else.
wow nice mower!
Another one of these modern Lawn-Boys, huh. Delving into the childhood fascinations of Home Garage and Suzuki-powered Toro mowers is a long and exciting story best kept for giggles and smiles, and thankfully not too many frowns.
thankfully.
I'm not sure I would have realized the linkage was installed wrong. Maybe, but probably not. Great video as always. I believe most Lawn-Boys are worth fixing. Thanks for the video.
As time goes by, I think they are definitely worth fixing. They are the best for step banks.
Nice clear closeups, intelligible, well-explained narration. Very nice job!
Thank you kindly!
Yet another superb job. Those type chokes are always trouble
yes they definitely can be a pain sometimes, Thank you The Rusty Rooster
I had an old 2 stroke Lawnboy mower back in the 60s. The muffler was under the deck so it was very quiet when in grass. The discharge chute was at the front edge of the deck with the RF wheel behind the chute. No self propel, but it was so light that you didn’t really need it. I loved the sound it made. You could push the front of the mower up to a fence and cut within an inch of it. Great mower!
yes the sound of the older 2 stroke is part of my past too,
I currently own a 2 Cycle Lawn Boy and other than the starting problem I like it very much
they are much better than most will ever know
I had a passed down Lawnboy that was about 12 years old. I used it on my lawn for about 5 years and didn’t really take care of it like I should. I even used it to cut 3-4 lawns weekly for about 2 months before buying a commercial mower. I still used it until I sold it. This thing was solid and never ever had an issue with it.
That's pretty amazing. do you remember which engine it had on it?
Hey, HG. Always nice seeing your videos. About that trimmer I rebuilt - Yep, I screwed up. Not only did I not clean the carburetor properly the first time (as evidenced by the chunks of garbage I found on one of the diaphragms), but when I did properly clean it, I got the spray on the diaphragm and ruined it! It floods itself now.
Lesson learned, but at least I got the experience. It helped a lot getting the general idea and learning to tune from your videos.
we all learn the hard way. It happened to me a long time ago too. Thank you Danny Boy
Nice! I like the Toro / Lawnboy series of mowers. They’re a nice lightweight and affordable alternative when you don’t need a big heavy machine. They’re kinda cheap but better than an MTD product IMO.
wow, you said all the right things. I've always found Lawyboys easier to use because of their weight.
I never used any lawnboy mower however it looks decent enough to get the job done.
it's pretty good, although the nostalgia comes when you use the 2 stroke ones.
Brings back memories from when i had one. I loved that mower. Lost it during a storm after a tree crushed it
wow, what a way to loose a mower
Yes I love working on lawn boys. And usually when they come in for repair, they don’t need much work. However like you said I like the 2 strokes better because I’ve seen them last longer than some 4 strokes
thank you Cole Steffens.
Great video, Lawn Boys are pretty decent, especially the older 2 stroke ones. I have 2 Lawn Boys stored away until Spring when there's a demand for mowers again so I can flip them, keep up the great work!
that's my plan as well, thank you WildeFox
To fix It depends on mower shape and quality. Believe me a lot of people do stupid things with them, put wrong fuel, never change oil or do it in a wrong way, store it in a wrong way, newer do any maintenance and cleaning. I got old Viking MB410 mover from my neighbours for free, pull-start was missing as they tried to fix it but thrown away with no luck. It had sheered key that's why it broke a starter. Bought new starter and reinstalled new flywheel key for 30$ and it runs like new. Since I never had a lawn mover and was willing to get one its a steal because a new one costs like 300$ or more.
Thank you rawux1228, and I completely agree with you.
Thanks. This helped but I also had to drain the stale gas that was in the carburetor gas reservoir bowl - did this by temporarily disconnecting the gas feed line and then unscrewing the bolts on the bottom of it and letting the old gas flush out.
that works too!
If a mower has a solid deck and even runs OK, I'll do what I can to make it usable, replace wheels, etc. if I have used parts in the shop. I too used several 2-cycle Lawn Boy mowers when I was young, wish I had a self propel 2-cycle now.
I know right, I really like the older 2 stroke ones as well.
If it's the same fuel mixture as other 2 cycle equipment, I could see it being convenient. And if your grass needs cut and it's all that's available, it's better than scissors.
I have seen my neighbor do this a long time ago, he made his wife use scissors to edge with.
Wow really good video. This easily is something that anyone could have overlooked. I would have never thought of that issue. Great job on the fix of the choke 👍🏼
thank you Rob Kercheval, I appreciate it.
I think lawnboy especially this one it's Worth it. It's probably the key that jammed on it or old grease on the spring causing the ploblem for that right wheel.
that's a pretty good possibility
Always informative content, you make what looks difficult easy to tackle. Thank you.
Glad you think so!
I've got the same mower only a from 2012 I think. Runs good and starts good. I did modify mine to have a side chute.
Really? did you happen to make a video about the Chute? I'd like to see how it was done. Thank you Iowafox
@@HomeGaragechannel I haven't made one but I can make one this week and show it quickly. All I did was took a chute shield off a spare mower marked out where I wanted it at. Used a grinder cut the hole and used a piece of thick rubber and used 3 bolts to secure it all. Works really well and never got clogged even after a real wet mowing.
nice work. I might have to give it a try on this one. thanks again.
We had the classic lawn boy two stroke when I was a kid and it was fantastic it had a magnesium deck so it was very light the exhaust when out the bottom so it was very quiet and it was powerful I cut the I used it several summers and it was pretty old when I started using it
My brother has a newer one it is about 5 years old with a Kawasaki motor it is self propelled but just doesn't stand up to the one I used as a kid
I know right, the older ones are fantastic! Thank you Charles Duboise.
I say as long as it do the job I will keep it. Awesome repair 🙏👍🙏👍🙏👍
That's the plan! Thank you RayFpv
Great job👍🏻 If the fix isn’t more costly than the value of the item, I think it’s worth trying to save it from the landfill
I totally agree with you.
In my small engine experience, learning how to drain the float bowl has saved me a whole lot of grief and trips to the repair shop.
you are right about that
Lawn Boy isn't a brand often seen in Australia. Yard Force might be the equivalent, but these are made in Korea (I think). With that mower having a metal deck, & Kohler engine, they are worth fixing.
thank you for the information, I'll have to look up Yard Force and take a look at them.
Yes I will try to save any mower. These newer lawn boys are the same as any other mower. I really despise Kohlers choke system though.
I know right, I don't know why they have to be so complicated .
just got one of these off the curb and it took me a while to figure out the autochoke failed and was not opening the choke when hot once i replaced it the mower ran perfect
very nice, these auto chokes are kind funny sometimes
I picked up the same mower last month (model 10604) and it also had the choke linkage issue.
thank you db130. Did you try and fix it?
@@HomeGaragechannel I will have to reorient the linkage like the way you did it. Someone else had "worked" on it before.
yes I do believe you are right.
Yes they are very good mowers I love them the older ones were built better though
Completely agree with you.
Hi where did you buy that white bottle with gas that you squeeze in the carbs throat
on Amazon
How do prime the carburetor manually?
It would have been great if you shown the whole process, from beginning to the end. It's like watching a movie but with a missing second disc.
tough question but can you tell me which part you think I'm missing?
@@HomeGaragechannel
We're missing the wheel drive examination and repair.
Free and a quick fix win win !
thank you Bill Clement
Yes Lawn-boy are worth fixing 100%
my thoughts exactly
My Lawn Boy is in its 27th year of residential use. Basic oil change yearly or new oil every 15 hours, fresh fuel, empty gas to bone dry in winter,
store it indoors from weather. Always lub every thing. And hope you did not buy one made on Fridays or Mondays
thank you TROTPTKA BASNBI for the comment.
Thank you my man!!!!!!!
no problem thank you for your time
Those Kohler and Honda clones (MTD Powermore etc..) are a huge pain. If you have the experience and patience to work on them they are perfectly good machines. Toro/Lawn-Boy machines tend to be pretty well built and are always worth saving. Especially the ones that came with Briggs & Stratton engines. I always get top dollar for those.
you make a good point. I think they are good to make money on.
Yeah worth having a go . As far as starting that was just a wrong linkage position. The drive may be just as easy and if not, its a working motor. Cheers
sorry to say, I already fixed the drive, and well,.. it wasn't easy. Video coming soon.
is it common to have a self propelled system in mowers in the USA? In australia, all the mowers I've come across (about 12 or so different brands/models) only 1 or 2 of them had a self propelled system.
not really, most of the time, they still work, but they are just worn out. This one, was truly special.
Lawn Boys were good back in the day, but not sure about their quality now. Yes, of course, I'd like to see the fix for the self propelled wheels. Cheers!
Yeah they were. EVERY lawn care business out there had them. The old 2 stroke ones
thank you David Campbell
Yes totally agree with you on that
Those Lawnboy mowers look like our cheap MTD mowers. The deck is the same however, the engine is always a mtd engine (locnin). I hate to say it but often they end up as parts at me.... often people don't care about them because they only cost 305 dollars.
they can definitely have their issues. thank you Christian Larsen.
I’ve had a LawnBoy 20” self-propelled since 2009. It has been a great mower. Starts first pull every time. I just recently replaced the drive belt and straightened the drive belt pulley guard, new air filter and changed the oil as is routine. Definitely worth saving! I’m seeing electric mowers in the box stores in high number now. How do you feel about electric mowers?
very nice work keeping going, As for electric mowers, expensive, and definitely not a solution, just another group of problems to deal with. Stay with gas stuff, you've got a better chance of fixing them for a lot less then replacing the circuit board, batter, or worse yet, the motor for an electric one.
Fixed mine! Open carp
nice!
Mine won’t start it was just working fine a hour ago noticed the gas was kinda blue is it supposed to be like that or is it supposed to stay separate
are you using mixed fuel in this 4 cycle engine? This particular engine is a Kohler and it only gets straight gasoline
I usually apply anti-seize to those wheel bolts.
I think anti-seize would work very well. I might have to take that idea from you. Thank you Tony M.
Thanks
No problem
Lawn Boy's are great mowers, Kohler engines not so much. Old two cycly ones are great.
you make a good point. 2 cycle for me please.
I just bought one off OfferUp for 100. they claimed it was in great working condition, but unfortunately, it’s leaking gas and we got a quote to fix it for 100 and we refused it bc we are on a budget. Your videos will be helpful bc the mowers are identical! Any ideas on the issue?
I would just replace the carb, because they are very affordable, and it's not that difficult to replace, Just make sure you follow along with a video.
good job
Thanks
Out how old was this lawnboy mower, i always feel lawnboy mowers were just a underprosumer mower, i mean its at a price point for someone who not allot of money to get a. Decent mower, but not overly expensive.
I'm not sure, If I had to guess it's probably 10 years old.
Hello Home garage how are you doing how was your Thanksgiving. Mine was good
it was pretty decent, food was okay, but the family part was more enjoyable. thanks for asking Paul Burns.
I like that ratchet you used. What is the brand name or type of ratchet? Another great fix! I do not have an opinion of Lawn Boy equipment as I have never used them. Have good days!
It's an older Pittsburg from Harbor Freight and thank you Buddy Reed.
What kind of oil does this machine take
this lawn boy uses a Kohler 4 stroke engine, so automotive 10w-30 or heavy duty 30 will work
hello friend great video congratulations. a doubt i have a stihl fs 280, it stays idle for 10 days and i have to redo the carburetor adjustments to be able to work this is normal or some defect in the carburetor?
its sound like there's definitely an issue with the carb. You might have to replace the metering diaphragm.
@@HomeGaragechannel thanks for the reply friend. I forgot to mention that already fis clean and the exchange of repairs and the problem continues.
once I've tried to clean a carb, and it still has a problem, I will usually just replace the Carb.
@@HomeGaragechannel ok, I understand, and which brand of parallel carburetor would you recommend? Raisman calburetor are good?
Raisman is fine.
on the next q/a can you do a video on blade sharpening?
no I don't, But all I do is just put an edge on it, I don't bother trying to re-shape it back to normal.
Do you know anything about the Touch N Mow starting system on a Briggs motor?
I had to look it up, but it looks very cool. It appears to be an integrated safety switch and starter button. IT's very ingenious actually. Did you have a question about it's operation?
@@HomeGaragechannel Yeah I have one that is not working. It is supposed to wind up as the motor dies but it is not doing it. I tried to find info or troubleshooting info on the system but didn’t have any luck. Like a theory of operation or a service manual would be very helpful. Didn’t know if you had any channels for that type of info?
I'll take a look around and see if I can find something that would help you out. If had to guess, it's either the button isn't working, or the spring is broken. The other possibility would be the catching system is broken for the spring.
@@HomeGaragechannel Appreciate it!!
How old is this mower
not sure.
4:48, "I'm still gonna prime the carburetor manually..." then you totally don't show how you did that. Can you please explain?
that white tube that showed up in the shot at the time stamp was me priming the engine with fuel.
I don't get the hate on anything just because it's old or slower, someone else can find use for it.
you are absolutely right about that.
Wife mows with a 70s 21" brick top. I fix and sell mowers she says they are too heavy
nice choice!
Honda engines are nearly bullet proof. LawnBoy mowers are now 'entry level' products if even still available. Better off with a Toro.
If I couldn't get a Honda, then yes, I think I would go for a toro.
I don’t see why Toro is bothering to keep Lawnboy alive anymore. That is what they are at this point, a rebranded Toro
yes to them it's just another product line to sell with.
Bro I can’t get farm gas premium or any thing above regular
that's a shame.
@@HomeGaragechannel yup
Mine won’t start cause it ran out of gas and I don’t know which type of gasoline to use
you can search the model number up online and it'll tell you which to use.
I'll use whatever !
me too, I'm not picky
Lawn boy mowers are ok. I am not a,fan of th Kohler auto choke.
You and me both, first time I ran across one, I wasn't sure what went where.
Another great video, thanks. IMO, Lawn Boy made some great dependable, easy to fix mowers until they were purchased by Toro.
I completely agree with you
Deja Vu.
oui, Monsieur