Ranking EVERY Modern Fighter Jet (2024)

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  • Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
  • This is the ranking of every operational fighter jet and attack jet in operation in the US, Europe, China, and Russia. Using my Ultimate Aircraft Ranking system I determine how every fighter jet stacks up. Including fighter jets manufactured in the US, Russia, Europe, and China.
    In this video I rank the following aircraft. F-16 Fighting Falcon, F-5 Tiger II, J-15, F-15E Strike Eagle, Eurofighter Typhoon, AV-8B Harrier, J-8, Chengdu J-7, JH-7, Su-25, F-22 Raptor, Mirage 2000, F/A -18 Hornet, F/A-18 Super Hornet, MiG-35, F-35A/B/C Lightning II, F-15C Eagle, Su-24, Rafale, MiG-35 Su-32/Su-34, Sukhoi Su-27, Chengdu J-20, Su-35, MiG-31, Su-30 Shenyang J-11, MiG-29, JAS-39 Gripen, Chengdu J-10, A-10 Thunderbolt II, Su-57, Shenyang J-16, Su-24, MiG-35, Su-32/Su-34.
    0:00 Intro
    5:28 Russian Rankings
    32:11 US Rankings
    43:00 Chinese Rankings
    49:02 European Rankings
    54:50 Conclusion
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  • @Humblee115
    @Humblee115 4 місяці тому +153

    2:07 the only thing broken here is that voice

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +37

      Hey man I'm just going through some changes 😂

    • @johns70
      @johns70 4 місяці тому +10

      @@AviationAustin yo, where is the Gripen E? It's operational in both the Swedish and Brazilian Air Force, albeit in small numbers. Also, you completely disregard the innovation of the Gripen to be maintainable, which most of these hyper-advanced 5th gen planes completely misses out on, and subsequently have abysmal availability in comparison.

    • @CyberBot17
      @CyberBot17 4 місяці тому

      @@johns70 the Gripen is the worst 4th gen fighter jet and the best air weapon asset god i love that bitch

    • @Hi-how-are-you-today.
      @Hi-how-are-you-today. 4 місяці тому +4

      @@AviationAustinYou mention that can’t become a fighter pilot because you don’t have 20/20 but I thought that was a myth. Like 20/35 or even 20/70 is fine?! What don’t I know?

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +6

      Your vision has to be perfect. I've heard people anecdotally say oh but you can get a waiver, but even then it still has to be correctable to 20/20 in both eyes

  • @avi8aviate
    @avi8aviate 2 місяці тому +20

    The Gripen is one of the most rugged planes on the planet, purpose-built for full operational capability on just 1600 feet of a snow-covered highway. It takes just 10 minutes for a single technician and a team of 5 conscripts to rearm, refuel, and reservice the aircraft before it returns to air-to-air combat after landing. It is one of the cheapest aircraft to operate in the world, costing less per hour than even the F-16C Block 50. It is one of the few aircraft equipped with an AESA radar, and it can fire jammers out of its countermeasure dispensers as if they were flares or chaff. Its abilities as a flying computer rival even the F-35's. It can carry whatever existing weapons you can think of. "If you buy Gripen, select where you want your weapons from: Israel, Sweden, Europe, US... South America. It's up to the consumer."
    Hmmm... let's give it a 5 for innovation, and a 6 for versatility.

    • @bagelmaster2498
      @bagelmaster2498 2 місяці тому

      The gripen isn’t gonna have sex with you bro relax. Besides the runway and operation and servicing the eurofighter bests it in most ways

    • @mijreed
      @mijreed 20 днів тому

      This dude is an idiot about the Gripen

    • @nogginthenoggfubar2862
      @nogginthenoggfubar2862 14 днів тому

      But the enemy will smell the garlic from a thousand kilometres.

    • @rayknister1472
      @rayknister1472 10 днів тому

      You might add that its operating cost is 1/3 that of the F35.

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 10 днів тому

      @@rayknister1472 Not even 1/3. The JAS 39C has less than 1/4 the cost per flight hour of the F-35A, and less than 1/6th the cost of an F-35B or C.

  • @xxdarkphoenixxx1
    @xxdarkphoenixxx1 2 місяці тому +65

    Absolute crap for the french rafale : you'r ranking the 1.0 version of the rafale ? then do it for every jet dude. It's unfair !

    • @vristeciorao
      @vristeciorao 2 місяці тому +6

      Lets talk about f35 then 🤣. Tt can not even fly as it was grounded for many weeks.

    • @xxdarkphoenixxx1
      @xxdarkphoenixxx1 2 місяці тому +6

      @@vristeciorao and we can also talk about F-22 that were grounded for mounth for many problems too

    • @kinka16
      @kinka16 2 місяці тому +6

      also, f35 can't supercruise and f22 is not multirole and has no combat experience 💀💀💀💀

    • @burndav
      @burndav 2 місяці тому +4

      @@kinka16 well... unless you count "Pop a baloon" as a valid combat experience... but then my 5yo son is more "combat proven" than the F22.

    • @kinka16
      @kinka16 2 місяці тому +1

      @@burndav no this is not valid lamo unmaned, slow moving, not in a fight zone isn't combat 💀💀

  • @kinka16
    @kinka16 2 місяці тому +23

    bruh ranking the first version of the rafale in 2024 is pure genious

  • @matsv201
    @matsv201 4 місяці тому +84

    Just looking at gripen here, becasue that is the aircraft i know the most about.
    It seams like you totally ignored the cost of operations. While Gripen is pretty expensive to buy, specially the E/F version. Its very cheap to operate. It only need ONE, yes ONE trained mechanic. (and a team of 5 conscripts with 6 week of training). The quality of gripen is top notch. To say that its for people who cant afford higher quality is just down ignorant.
    The reason why some countries choice to assemble, or really build, the gripes them self is for two reasons. One its because of economics. But the other reason is to maintain a spare parts production in country.
    For the speed i would say the dry speed is more important than the wet speed. The wet speed is pretty much never used, but the dry speed is used often. The Dry speed of Gripen A-D if around mach 0.95 and for E/F its probobly about mach 1.3 (not official)
    For versatility. Gripens combat range is 800 and 1500km that is really more than most equivalent aircrafts. Its really just the F15 that have significantly higher combat range of the gen 4.5 aircrafts, F16 and F18 have shorter. (And its woth saying that Gripen is 20% lighter than the F16, despite Gripen being a ruged aircraft and F16 is not. (Lager aircraft generally have longer range). And the 1500 range of the newer model is not really low at all.
    Versatility is more than just about number of hard points. Gripen was one of the, if not the first true multi role modern military jet. There was 7 versions of the previews Viggen aircraft, those was replaced with only 2 version of Gripen. Because the E model does 5 different operations, while the other does 2. (well technically the F can do all 7 operations, but its not practical).
    Gripen can also carry out attack and fighting missions on the same mission. While many aircraft can do that today, that was not really the case in 1989.
    It can also land and take of from short poorly maintained airfields and highways (and theoretically carriers).
    It have a very short turn around time at about 5 minutes. (yea ... five) and its built to fly for a solid 2 weeks 24/7 with no maintenance.
    Both allow the aircraft to be deployed closer to the front as well as being operated with more hours. Having each air frame with more hours on target, acting as a force multiplier. (something Gripen have in common with both Draken and Viggen).
    This also effect things like range, capacity, carry rate and so on. If the plane can carry a larger number of loads to the enemy, the amount it can carry each time is multiplied.
    Gripen also got totally modular software. While that is something that is increasingly common, hardly any air frame got that today. And back in 1989 it was totally unheard of. This was the reason why the Meteor Missile was developed for Gripen first. Because software integration was simple.
    Gripen have a much more advanced link than most other fighters today. It can link with both ground as well as sea assets. This allow for direct digital targeting from both troops and the navy. The link can also act as a ad hock AWAC system in combination with ground based combat control.
    While Neither Gripen A-D or E/F is stealth. There is a reason for it. It would negatively effect the combat capacity of the aircraft. At the time the E/F was developed stealth was considered, but rejected. But Gripen E/F got a other weapon that may be ever better than stealth. Or well, some people claim so. The EW system of Gripen E/F can not only send interference, but can send out a calibrated anti radar signal back, canceling out the radar result. Exactly how good this system is... very few people know.
    But one advantage of the system is that the enemy would not know how efficient it is until its war. This system is probobly pretty good, considering that Eurofighter just bought the same model of Saab to install on there aircraft. So.. well its at least better than what eurofighter come with originally.
    This is more of a ... A fighter jet, or really any equipment, is more than just there spec sheet, than to say this ranking is wrong.
    Of cause, i could claim that the ranking is wrong, the issue is then, that i would need to know all the special ability all of the other aircraft got, and of cause, i don´t know that. And on top of that, some of the abilitys is still classified.

    • @Eulendamon
      @Eulendamon 3 місяці тому +1

      Ok bro stop overpowering the gripes it ain't that good compared to something like the F15 or any other modern jet and it can't carry that good of a payload, only 6 missles while the Russians carry 12 or more same as the Americans but atleast it's better than the Rafael

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 3 місяці тому +9

      @@Eulendamon its gripen A that can carry only 6 missiles. Those do no longer exist. C carry 8 and E can carry 10

    • @protonjinx
      @protonjinx 3 місяці тому +13

      @@Eulendamon Gripen went up against Eurofighter in exercises and Eurofighter pilots got cocky about winning, the Gripen pilots finally got fed up and flipped their EW pods to war levels and roflcopterstomped the Eurofighters into the ground.

    • @p1ngu646
      @p1ngu646 3 місяці тому

      Also the gripen is litteraly built to stop all of russias aircrafts.

    • @riksksksks
      @riksksksks 3 місяці тому +7

      The gripen is definitely better than the f15. During red flag 2006 in alaska one gripen acted as an interceptor on 3 f15s. The result: 2 f15's were shot down and the last one managed to escape.@@Eulendamon

  • @spectreplays9
    @spectreplays9 4 місяці тому +83

    He is just wrong about the gripen. Cost effectiveness makes a huge difference here. The bang for your buck is far greater than the Rafale and Typhoon. The plane may not be the best but you’ve underplayed it’s effectiveness

    • @brunol-p_g8800
      @brunol-p_g8800 2 місяці тому +13

      He is just wrong about everything, period.

    • @MattiasHenriksson-sw7xw
      @MattiasHenriksson-sw7xw 2 місяці тому +11

      The Gripen E is probably only challenged by the F35 in SA, tech warfare and communication abilities.
      Let’s just say the list is very young american engineer reading stat sheets.

    • @cryopathy1299
      @cryopathy1299 2 місяці тому

      its not underplayed at all, its still expencive to make lol

  • @Canard_Ivre
    @Canard_Ivre 2 місяці тому +20

    Seriously, giving the SU-34 an innovation score of 4 is just plain wrong. Have you seen it? They've managed to fit a toilet and a kitchen in there! And if there was an appearance score it would be a solid 10/10. That wide, flattened nose? Totally resembles a duck-bill, and who doesn't love ducks? Plus, those canards? Super cool!

  • @austin.5947
    @austin.5947 4 місяці тому +7

    Wasn’t expecting another upload, but thanks Austin!

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +1

      I figured now that I've done all of them might as well put them all together! Hopefully my upload schedule will improve when I finish my masters program in May!

  • @peterpeter8325
    @peterpeter8325 4 місяці тому +7

    You are totally wrong on the Rafale

  • @mitchconner2021
    @mitchconner2021 4 місяці тому +27

    I hate how top speed us used instead of effective speed. Top speed on almost every fighter jet can only be done for a few minutes. The effective speed should be used when calculating speed. Just cuz a mig 31 can go mach 2.8 doesnt mean much when it can only be done for about 30 seconds lol

    • @CyberBot17
      @CyberBot17 4 місяці тому +1

      is effective speed just cruise/supercruise or how do you calculate it

    • @doodlesdaddy1122
      @doodlesdaddy1122 4 місяці тому +4

      Exactly. An f14 is actually faster than an F22 for example

  • @mansrow1712
    @mansrow1712 3 місяці тому +18

    Giving a better versatility rate to the Typhoon than to the Rafale is paradoxical, since the Rafale went out a few years before the Typhoon, and added all the components for air to ground missions during those few years. But most of all, it can operate from a damn carrier. That is super important, and I am surprised you didn't take that into account like you did with the F35C.
    Also, you should have taken thing in account for your rating : availability/maintenance. That is perhaps the most crucial and underestimated aspect of a fighter jet.

    • @Juliusdray
      @Juliusdray 2 місяці тому

      Mais les anglais saxon des teste quand on fait mieux qu’eux avec moins de moyen . Le typhon franchement c’est une vrais arnaque en plus ils ont pas de version marine . Pour les anglais c’est vraiment ironique . Ils ont 6 pauvres f35 sur deux portes avions et ils pensent encore être crédibles .

    • @everettjohnson8776
      @everettjohnson8776 2 дні тому

      I think the Rafael is better than gripped n just under American Eagle n f-35, Raptor

  • @factsy7042
    @factsy7042 2 місяці тому +6

    During a red flag exercise It was assigned to the red team. Reduced AWACS, reduced ground support. The Gripens connected their link systems and acted themselves as AWACs, got the battlefield awareness necessary and avoided all ground defence, scored 10 kills the first day including a Typhoon. No losses they remained undetected. One Gripen pilot knocked down five F-16 block 50+ during close air combat in Red Flag Alaska. And the Gripens never lost any aerial encounter or failed their mission objectives. It was the only fighter that performed all planed starts, while others were sitting on the ground waiting for the weather to clear up. The evaluation was that Gripen capacity needed to be revaluated.😉

  • @George-ux6zz
    @George-ux6zz 4 місяці тому +23

    I see a few categories that the F15 should get high marks in. 104 kills to 0 taken out. Mach 2.5 and the only fighter to cross the Atlantic without refueling. If I'm not mistaken, it also holds the most ordinance and has flown with one wing missing. It can do pretty much anything you need it to do, including dropping a bomb on a moving helicopter in mid air. Good pilot. Now they've upgraded it to the F15 EX with fly by wire and other upgrades.

    • @zTheBigFishz
      @zTheBigFishz 2 місяці тому +1

      The stuff I've read about the EX says that they have the nose authority and slow speed characteristics of a Hornet with the power of an Eagle.

    • @Opama_
      @Opama_ 2 місяці тому +3

      the 103-0 kd was against Poorly Trained Iraqi conscripts flying mig-21s (a plane from the early 60s) and mig-23s (a plane from early 70s). Not that the plane isn't amazing, but the kd doesn't really matter if you're fighting somebody that can't fight back.

  • @doctorproctor69
    @doctorproctor69 4 місяці тому +50

    u cant really rank the Mirage 2000 without specifying a specific variant as there are a ton that are very different capability wise like a Mirage 2000C is just a dumb bomb analog fox one slinger, but a Mirage 2000-5 MK2 is a capable multi-role platform with MFDs, guided A2G ordinance using the Damocles pod (same as Rafale), and Both versions of the MICA A2A missiles. (im just butt hurt i love the Mirage 2000, but theres no comparison to the Mirage III)

    • @oliverbrown3961
      @oliverbrown3961 4 місяці тому +7

      completely agreed

    • @germanurrunaga2190
      @germanurrunaga2190 3 місяці тому +13

      This guy is a complete ignorant of french air combat industry, but the worst: Completely biased.

    • @brunol-p_g8800
      @brunol-p_g8800 2 місяці тому +4

      And he ignored the fact that the Mirage 2000 has the best fly by wire system of its generation, far better than the F-16.

    • @germanurrunaga2190
      @germanurrunaga2190 2 місяці тому +2

      @@brunol-p_g8800 exactly, FBW just to mention one area in which Mirage 2000 was (still) much more advanced, mature and reliable than F-16s from blocks 30 and previous. Even when Mk2 and Mk9 appeared, where much better (still) multirole fighters than block 50 and previous.

    • @torben777
      @torben777 2 місяці тому

      You could say the same of F15 and F16. A block 70 F16 or an F15ex are a full generation better than their own origin.

  • @jeffsherk7056
    @jeffsherk7056 4 місяці тому +3

    Lots of fun, Thanks. I appreciate the props you gave to the A-10, and your thoughts on the F-16 versus the F-18 were enlightening. New subscriber because of this video.

  • @torykitchen633
    @torykitchen633 4 місяці тому +2

    Great list!

  • @T0MAS25
    @T0MAS25 4 місяці тому +165

    Waiting for the comments saying your opinion is wrong

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +26

      Give it time. They're certainly coming 😂

    • @kevinmyers440
      @kevinmyers440 4 місяці тому

      Why, other people can’t have a different opinion? You people are clowns.

    • @cassaia7805
      @cassaia7805 4 місяці тому +15

      ​@@AviationAustinI've been called, no but really how the A-10 got so high, I've been comparing to other aircrafts and at max i got 5.4, it's cheap, but the speed is horrible, it's a full CAS aircraft, the technology isn't ground breaking, and it has proven quite effective, you didn't showed any point graph with american planes, went over them pretty fast so I'm kinda lost at that one, just curiosity how it scored in each category

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому

      What do you mean you people?

    • @kevinmyers440
      @kevinmyers440 4 місяці тому

      @@AviationAustin clowns. You people, that are clowns. Clowns that think everyone should agree with what they think. Not that I disagreed with much

  • @Hef20000
    @Hef20000 4 місяці тому +3

    Nice work 👏

  • @14goldmedals
    @14goldmedals 4 місяці тому +10

    Missed the boat on the Grippen's capabilities. Plus fleet linking abilities.

  • @bruticusf22
    @bruticusf22 3 місяці тому

    Good breakdown & info. Good video

  • @kevinb.1891
    @kevinb.1891 2 місяці тому +1

    Quite an interesting review, well done! 🎉

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley 4 місяці тому +23

    Well, that was fun. I can't really argue with your picks. I'd like to think the A-10 and Harrier ranked higher because of their significant contributions in actual combat, but I don't know what I would put them above, so pretty good list imho.

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 3 місяці тому

      The later Harrier improved by the US is far Better than the original british death machine 😅

    • @xxbongobazookaxx7170
      @xxbongobazookaxx7170 3 місяці тому +2

      The A-10 has more blue on blue incidents than any other aircraft, it's not particularly versatile and it's slow as balls. It's main purpose was to destroy tanks but isn't able to reliably destroy anything better armoured than a M-60, it looks good for cameras but precision weapons fill it's role far better with greater forward compatibility as new munitions are developed e.g. like why Ukraine want F-16s so badly

    • @Neomaster35
      @Neomaster35 2 місяці тому

      ​@jbloun911 did you forget the Harrier was quite effective in 1982

  • @David-jl6hr
    @David-jl6hr 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video.

  • @aurdel775
    @aurdel775 2 місяці тому +9

    I mean, the Rafale was rushed into service for the french marine, because it had to replace the older aircrafts. But with the different upgrades it got, I think that 7 is, quite low for the versatility grade, knowing that's it's an omnirole fighter jey

  • @davidbalogun7569
    @davidbalogun7569 4 місяці тому +28

    I actually like how your ranking system works because it a pretty good way of taking personal bias out of the equation it's just pretty funny to see stuff like the AESA radar, Electronic warfare, PL 15 equipped J16 below stuff like the MiG29 and planes its a straight upgrade on like the Su27 and j11 but that's obviously not really your fault

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +1

      Glad you enjoy it!

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  3 місяці тому

      Even if your 30+ year old study was perfect, it's still irrelevant. This is not a dogfight ranking

  • @F-15_enthusiast
    @F-15_enthusiast 4 місяці тому +21

    Hi Austin, what do you think about the F-15EX and what score would it get if it had some history behind?

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +16

      Well I haven't ranked that one yet, mainly because it's not operational. But I don't think it will outperform the F-22 on the rankings since most of the platform upgrades are just aimed at bringing it up to speed with other 5th Gen fighters. It won't outperform them. Also, by the nature of it mostly being an upgrade, it's not as innovative as the NGAD program is aimed to be.

    • @michaeld1170
      @michaeld1170 4 місяці тому +5

      The Eagle 2 is very similar to the F-15QA, which is an advanced derivative of the F-15, its been immensely upgraded with some publications saying it has the most advanced mission computers ever fitted into a fighter.
      However it is limited by its design which originated in the 1960s using 1960s flight sciences. For example, the shape of the aircraft itself is designed to generate lift behind the center of gravity, making it a stable design. Because its a stable design, it will always be harder for the F-15 to achieve the same maneuver against an unstable design like the F-16, onwards.

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +3

      @michaeld1170 not to mention it's geometry will never lend itself to having a low RCS

    • @pike100
      @pike100 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@AviationAustinThe F-15EX is NOT a 5th generation fighter.

    • @dominuslogik484
      @dominuslogik484 4 місяці тому

      @@michaeld1170 from what I can gather the main point of the F-15EX is to be a missile truck carrying a heavy payload.

  • @LarsOestreicher
    @LarsOestreicher 4 місяці тому +14

    Good work, and I think that making a comparison like this is always diffficult, so kudos to you for the effort.
    However, I wonder a bit about the cost and versatility scores. The Gripen is, as most Swedish jet fighters have been, intended to serve as hunter, attack AND surveillance aircraft with a focus on being able to use regular roads as airfields, including a very short turnaround time from landing to start. It also has a quite innovative networking of information which gives it a special strength as a fighter jet. I assume that these features would count to the versatility score (and maybe the innovation score too).
    I also wonder about the cost aspect, where you seem to have left out cost per flying hour and maintenance costs.
    For the ranking scores, i think there is also a difference between defensive and offensive fighters, not least when it comes to speed and operation distances. But that is a minor detail in the whole.

    • @oliverbrown3961
      @oliverbrown3961 4 місяці тому +1

      not as innovative considering the viggen was similar, but yeah versatility definately

    • @pike100
      @pike100 4 місяці тому

      ​@@oliverbrown3961*definitely

  • @LesKnight-ui8en
    @LesKnight-ui8en 4 місяці тому +5

    Try telling the Argentinians or ground troops who served in Afghanistan how useless the British Harriers were!

  • @amaurytt
    @amaurytt 4 місяці тому +16

    I am afraid you got your dates a bit wrong on the Rafale. First flight in 1986 is for the initial demonstrator with temporary US made engines (french ones were still in the design phase). The first actual prototype was in 1991so pretty much the same time frame as the f-22. Initial production started in early 2000 so the limitations you mention for air to ground were for the first blocks delivered to the french navy. These were a bit rushed as they were necessary to equip the newly launched aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle. If you look at the first blocks of f-35 you'll find they were not even capable of using their machine guns...to be truthful I am not even sure that issue has been resolved yet.

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +1

      Interesting. I never came across that in my research.

    • @kinka16
      @kinka16 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@AviationAustinnever heard of f-35 issues ?

  • @joenuts4099
    @joenuts4099 4 місяці тому +23

    Also when has the UK used the Saab gripen

    • @user-wp8fg7en5q
      @user-wp8fg7en5q 4 місяці тому +9

      Well. They borrowed one JAS39 to be used in there fighter school for several years.

    • @henkee3715
      @henkee3715 3 місяці тому +1

      The school owns one Gripen even i think.

  • @hakanbodin252
    @hakanbodin252 4 місяці тому +26

    You did Not even Mentioned JAS-Gripen-E !?!?

    • @brurpo
      @brurpo 4 місяці тому +11

      He even shows it when talking about the gripen, the Brazilian air force uses the E variant. And imagine giving a low versatility score to a plane that can use all US and european ordenance, can do air superiority, ground attack, eletronic warfare all at the same time, while even having the only AESA radar that is mounted on a plate that can look left and right, engage and turn 90 degrees while still targeting, and even land on a highway and be maintened by a mobile crew of 10.

    • @bjornwadelius9909
      @bjornwadelius9909 4 місяці тому +4

      Dont forget super cruise!

  • @andreasgkanatsios7446
    @andreasgkanatsios7446 4 місяці тому +7

    Rafale my beloved 😍🤙💪

  • @JP-lz6gc
    @JP-lz6gc 4 місяці тому +19

    Think you slept on the gripen a bit. Not considering the maintenance aspect, which is a big part of the design. Able to operate from remote locations as highways with a tiny mobile service team on the ground.

    • @14goldmedals
      @14goldmedals 4 місяці тому +8

      He absolutely dismissed one of the best multirole aircraft here. The maintenance you mentioned wins wars not just battles.

    • @jwativ13
      @jwativ13 4 місяці тому +2

      Gripen definitely deserves more love. Such a great concept of design. You can see how effective the philosophy behind the Gripen is ideal in modern combat based on lessons learned in Ukraine.

    • @14goldmedals
      @14goldmedals 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jwativ13 I hoped Canada would use their brains and buy these instead F-35's. Value for our weak Canadian dollar was better with the Grippen. Sweden understands the needs of a far Northern area of operation and sparse conditions. They practice and train for losing airstrips so they build jets that can land on highways, love it.

    • @bjornl6547
      @bjornl6547 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@jwativ13he should tell the Ukrainians that their mig29 are better than the Gripen. 😂

  • @michaeld1170
    @michaeld1170 4 місяці тому +21

    Hey Austin, as you and I know, thrust to weight is not a constant value, so instead of giving a constant value, I try to give T/W range figures, for example the F-22 has a T/W ratio of 0.83 when at maximum take off weight, all the way to 1.61 at empty weight, obviously thrust at empty will also be 0 as there is no fuel anymore, so maybe it would be nice to give a T/W ratio from MTOW up to, lets say 10% fuel.

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +8

      That's fair. I'll have to see if that range is readily available for these platforms. That's a big factor into the statistics I use since it has to be available for me to compare it to it's contemporaries.

    • @Drum317
      @Drum317 4 місяці тому +2

      f-22s thrust to weight is 1.2 fully loaded

  • @Jay_in_Japan
    @Jay_in_Japan 4 місяці тому +7

    J-20 top speed: Mach 2
    Speed score: 8
    Mirage 2000 top speed: Mach 2.2
    Speed score: 7
    Are these scores meant to be comparable between origin countries, or only between aircraft from the same origin?

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +2

      Comparable to aircraft manufacturered during similar eras

  • @ruihenriquessantos7583
    @ruihenriquessantos7583 4 місяці тому +75

    Well, I really liked how detailed you were about the russian jets on how you got to score them in each category. I learned quite a lot of new and interesting (to me) information (numbers, etc.). Just wish you had kept that same attention to detail through the whole video. Even if it meant a longer video. I don't know about you all but, to me, I can spend hours watching informative videos about airplanes, specially fighter jets. From the American jets on, it felt a bit rushed. Kudos to you nonetheless. 👏👏

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +13

      Yes I did the Russian video more in depth in response to feedback saying just that. So going forward you will see that level of detail in the ranking videos. Glad it came across that way. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @BerraLJ
      @BerraLJ 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah would have been nice to see the cost of the US fighters since the F35 is not cheap.

    • @dustinleonard3408
      @dustinleonard3408 3 місяці тому +1

      @@BerraLJ I think it's around 170 million, based on the program costing 1.7 trillion. The problem with the F35 is the cost of the program over time and the failures encountered. The F22 was the perfect aircraft for air superiority....just too expensive to continue. The program was "only" 67 billion, but each plane comes out to an actual 340 million.

    • @timsmetana9094
      @timsmetana9094 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@AviationAustin As a russian I think you're absolutely right about our jets, if I had to do a comparison of russian jets, I would say the same things you mentioned in the video❤

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  3 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @caspernilsson2940
    @caspernilsson2940 3 місяці тому +2

    Bro said the gripen was standard lol

  • @tgllsp
    @tgllsp 4 місяці тому +3

    You're showing your Navy brat bias. The F-35C's ability to land on a carrier and fold its wings doesn't enhance its ability to perform the missions over the F-35A. It's just a difference in where it takes off from and lands. The C does the same air-to-ground and air-to-air the A does.

  • @michaelhuff2365
    @michaelhuff2365 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video, really enjoyed this. Thanks🙏🏼

  • @knightlypopeye
    @knightlypopeye 4 місяці тому +4

    Are you giving these jets only dry thrust? Because I’m sure that the F-22 has with afterburner 2x35000lbs of thrust for a total of 70,000 lbs of max thrust.

  • @deuxalex562
    @deuxalex562 4 місяці тому +19

    Austin, I think you're joking right? The Eurofighter Typhoon achieved such success long after the Rafale plus, the Eurofighter Typhoon was initially designed for air superiority, not for ground attack, it acquired the ability to attack the ground quite recently and you ranked it above the Rafale which was designed from the beginning as an Omirole fighter? Not to mention that the Rafale has a marine version that operates on an aircraft carrier, plus you didn't mention the Rafale's electronic warfare suite, which is one of the best in the world? Not to mention that the Rafale has a datalink installed before the F35, yes the one on the F35 is much more advanced, but Rafale's is also there. Anyway, thanks for the work done, but in the future it would be good to document yourself better, good luck in the future. I apologize if I made a mistake, English is not my native language.

    • @kuhnville3145
      @kuhnville3145 4 місяці тому +1

      I get it's not your first language but you say 'not to mention' a lot

    • @vicariousjohnson9823
      @vicariousjohnson9823 4 місяці тому +2

      @@kuhnville3145 He said it twice. Calm down.

    • @kuhnville3145
      @kuhnville3145 4 місяці тому +1

      @@vicariousjohnson9823 yea, one sentence apart

    • @Opama_
      @Opama_ 2 місяці тому

      @@vicariousjohnson9823 it's even in sync. XDDD

  • @lordk2362
    @lordk2362 4 місяці тому +2

    Intreasring video hopefully you add indian and korean foghter jet as well in the future ❤

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 4 місяці тому +6

    Nice video. Respectively I probably would of had the F-15's above every thing other then the F-35's and F-22's. The F-15 has the best combat record and longevity.

  • @nicholaswjamrock
    @nicholaswjamrock 4 місяці тому +4

    the gripin sub par combat range, seriously dude you need to check your facts the gripin has greater combat reange than the f15 f 16 and f35, it cots per hour of operation is a fraction of an f16, which was the cheapest air to air combat aircraft in NATO. SAAB invented sensor fussion, which aircraft on your list can fire a missle using the targeting data from another. its the only aircraft that can use every weapon in nato

    • @everettjohnson8776
      @everettjohnson8776 2 дні тому

      The Gripen , F-16, are by far ur dogs in the low cost , close in dog fighter capabilities along with ground support/ ground targeting capabilities. The gripes doesn’t touch F-35 or F-22 in any long distance combat where it’s all capabilities no limitations. They actually have games where the Grippen downs F-22 and F-35 but what they don’t really talk about was they made the F-35 start in close with outside fuel and weoponry and the F-22 carried extra fuel and weoponry mounted outside. This defeats the main strength of the fighters. Tho they ran em again w/0 Limitations and the Raptor n F-35 ran superior. Having said that I’m a fan of the Grippen. Awesome fighter to have. Also, not sure how well u know the American Strike Eagle? The newest variation of the eagle is a Mac daddy utilizing some stealthy attributes like the absorbing paint, stealthier fuel tanks n motors that sit deeper within to limit view of the burner. N super cruise like the raptor w/o burners which helps keep heat dig low. But this fighter is still not stealth it just used some meathods to help make it more moderately survivable in todays war! Good stuff man!

  • @lospiloto6544
    @lospiloto6544 4 місяці тому +4

    Hi, amazing work. When I speak about military planes I'm like "I like that, so it is the best"😂
    I have only one critique: WHERE IS THE TORNADO? THE GHIBLI? AND THE M 365? GIB IT NOW!

  • @markmaher4548
    @markmaher4548 4 місяці тому +8

    The Grippen is not in RAF service. It is used by the Empire Test Pilot's School, a civil wing of the UK MoD, specifically QinetiQ, that trains test pilots. It's not in RAF service.

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 3 місяці тому +1

      Nobody cares

  • @user-ub9my1hu7d
    @user-ub9my1hu7d 4 місяці тому +18

    I'll be honest you're probably the 2nd person who didn't put any hate on the J 20

    • @Qiushishuo
      @Qiushishuo 3 місяці тому

      😅Is this a joke?

  • @dylankorengold6060
    @dylankorengold6060 4 місяці тому +3

    Nice video! Could you do a video like this but for helicopters?

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +1

      Maybe eventually. I want to focus on fixed wing first though

    • @dopecat4012
      @dopecat4012 4 місяці тому

      @@AviationAustin You should focus on getting laid.

  • @louisblair9732
    @louisblair9732 4 місяці тому +2

    YEH !!! GOOD JOB !!! THANKS!!! AMEN 🙏!!!

  • @pahtar7189
    @pahtar7189 4 місяці тому +6

    Su-25: High speed is a disadvantage for a close air support plane. It should have scored 6 or 7.
    AV-8B: Innovation and versatility should be 10.
    A-10: Your ranking system values versatility, so you should probably have left out purpose-built close air support craft like this and the Su-25.
    F/A-18E/F: Through most of its history, US Navy aviation has used exclusively specialist aircraft. The F-4 was the first to attempt "jack of all trades."

    • @alexkrystaszek5201
      @alexkrystaszek5201 4 місяці тому +1

      how is high speed a disadvantage for CAS aircraft?

    • @pahtar7189
      @pahtar7189 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alexkrystaszek5201
      Speed to and from the fight isn't a problem, but in close air support you need to go low and slow to have the most effect and most planes that can go very fast can't go very slow.

  • @JudgeVandelay
    @JudgeVandelay 4 місяці тому +1

    F-5s produce 10,000 lbf of thrust on afterburners, therefore have a great thrust to weight value.

  • @jimreynolds2837
    @jimreynolds2837 4 місяці тому

    Love the list. I assume the Growler was tied in with the F/A-18E/F.

  • @MarkoDash
    @MarkoDash 4 місяці тому +4

    the problem with things like this is that public information on current systems is often intentionally wrong in different ways. western countries tend to understate performance statistics to conceal true capabilities and eastern block ones tend to overstate as an intimidation ploy.

  • @flanker1659
    @flanker1659 4 місяці тому +2

    Good combat range in Mig29? brooo

  • @davehutchins2820
    @davehutchins2820 4 місяці тому +3

    Great presentation reflecting a hughe amount of work. Pretty good for a non flyboy.😉

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +2

      😂 thanks. Fly boys are always sharing their opinions here. Time for an engineer to chime in

  • @adbramsay
    @adbramsay 2 місяці тому

    Can you explain putting the F15 so far down considering is kill:loss ratio?

  • @atumcommel
    @atumcommel 2 місяці тому

    The Gripen seems to have something the others dont (maybe the first migs). Capable of taking off from any road and in a very short distance. That was one of the points when building the aircraft so that it cane be serviced anywhere when in a war scenario where airports are bombed

  • @Attack_The_D_Point
    @Attack_The_D_Point 3 місяці тому +2

    Uhh I don’t think the su-25 or a-10 are fighter jets

  • @rogergibson8997
    @rogergibson8997 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, I really enjoyed it and it was very educational. Thank you. GOD bless

  • @richardmeyeroff7397
    @richardmeyeroff7397 4 місяці тому

    How will the new engine effect the ranking of the SU27?

  • @capnsalt7102
    @capnsalt7102 4 місяці тому +31

    Hell yeah, the raptor is the undisputed goat of the skies

    • @dopecat4012
      @dopecat4012 4 місяці тому +7

      Yes, that's why it has one air-to-air kill of a balloon.

    • @eohq
      @eohq 4 місяці тому +3

      @dopecat4012 And the supercruising, maneuverability, stealth capabilities, weapon systems and avionics were ONLY tested duing that balloon shootdown

    • @Carenjoyer22
      @Carenjoyer22 4 місяці тому +11

      @@dopecat4012that’s it only air to kill because there hasn’t been a war for it to shoot down anything

    • @rottedpotato645
      @rottedpotato645 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@dopecat4012i hate this argument, of course it only has 1 kill. that's because it's not been in any war yet.

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +7

      You are absolutely sorely mistaken if you think that the "great radar" of the MIG-31 has a chance on this planet against a 5th Gen fighter.

  • @anthonyschirillo4377
    @anthonyschirillo4377 4 місяці тому +1

    Is the F15 EX BETTER TGAN THE F15E?

  • @dat_sauce_tho2194
    @dat_sauce_tho2194 4 місяці тому

    Bro launching off that carrier with 5 bags is willlldddd

  • @MarcusPereiraRJ
    @MarcusPereiraRJ 4 місяці тому +2

    You must not have taken into account the E variant of Gripen to place the almost decrepit Mirage 2000 over it.

  • @michaelchristensen5421
    @michaelchristensen5421 4 місяці тому +3

    F-117 was not and is not a fighter, it received the fighter designation as a confusion factor.

  • @user-kq4ki3lq6m
    @user-kq4ki3lq6m 2 місяці тому

    plus the gripen is an extremely formidable multirole aircraft

  • @jesjoeken
    @jesjoeken 4 місяці тому +2

    A-10a on top for shooting them all, the most combats …and its surviveability. It’s an almost 100% synonym to effectiveness. Of course in a CAS role…. Go ugly early.
    Great list and try to update. I loved to watch it.
    Btw Radar cross section, who cares if radar is put down and low flight can be your cover? 😉

  • @Jay_in_Japan
    @Jay_in_Japan 4 місяці тому

    55:38 Why all the gaps in the placings, if there's no ties? And, where did all the scores for the American aircraft come from?

  • @XerrolAvengerII
    @XerrolAvengerII 4 місяці тому +2

    I feel like with the block 4 upgrade, the F-35 with it's 360 degree sensors, built in electronic warfare and jamming systems, and internal air to ground infrared targeting system makes up for it's deficiencies in top speed and raw maneuverability compared to the F-22. As a fun fact, the F-35 has the most powerful engine of any fighter jet in the world at 43,000lb of thrust (compared to the 35,000lb of thrust of from one of the pair of engines put into the F-22). In dogfighting and medium range combat the F-22 relies on it's heads up display and high nose authority to point at enemies to defeat them, the F-35 will target and defeat enemies with missiles at almost any angle using the helmet mounted display, and is capable of tracking cruise missile and Sam launches out to 800miles from the vehicle.

  • @Gringubbensverige
    @Gringubbensverige 2 місяці тому

    As far as I know, the Gripen hasn't been in combat yet, so time will tell how effective it is. I heard a high ranking Swedish officer reply to the question on how it compares to other fighter jets. He couldn't reveal a lot but said you can sleep safely at night.

  • @gusty844
    @gusty844 3 місяці тому +2

    why is su25 included? Its not a fighter . If it would be a cas rating it would be one of the best especially modern variants like su25sm3

  • @Betelgeusewaitforit
    @Betelgeusewaitforit 2 місяці тому +2

    I commend you in doing this on your own. There are multiple government agencies across Nations who actually mostly do a bad job at this stuff.

  • @christophercoupe5006
    @christophercoupe5006 4 місяці тому

    Would have been interesting to see the stealth fighter on here

  • @richardpochman6406
    @richardpochman6406 3 місяці тому

    Hi Austin, really liked that. Pls note, that also the Austrians operate the Typhoon.

  • @willthrill94
    @willthrill94 4 місяці тому +2

    I do think the method of measuring effectiveness for the Su-25 is a bit flawed. I don’t think it fully encompasses its role/niche. Still, loved this video

  • @brianschafer2522
    @brianschafer2522 4 місяці тому

    Where does the F15-EX rate on your list???

  • @marcuskarlsson
    @marcuskarlsson 2 місяці тому +1

    Not at all US biased. Possibly the most subjective ranking I have ever seen.

  • @rogergibson8997
    @rogergibson8997 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, I subscribed today

  • @edvinandersson2796
    @edvinandersson2796 2 місяці тому

    The Gripen was deployed in Libya 2011, but don't think they needed to use it in combat

  • @mr_j0r1s10
    @mr_j0r1s10 2 місяці тому +4

    Bro all the Russians are crying cause their Su-57 is so low on the list XD (also the Gripen has no business being that low on the list at all)

    • @everettjohnson8776
      @everettjohnson8776 2 дні тому

      The Gripen in close quarters only along with F-16, n Su 35, n American Raptors would all rank at the top of the list in my opinion.
      Tho for Beyond field of view fighting the American Stealth as in Raptors and F-35 are killing it with far targeting, multiple targeting quality, and the fact your being fired on by time you realize they are there, the Americans Strike Eagle the newest edition from Boeing is another very capable in close fighter but with far line of sight capabilities and multiple targeting caps and lethality with very heavy ordinance carrying capability. Now after saying all of that the NATO based fighters are designed to play a designed role for the greater good of the group. As where some countries factor hard on navy like Britt’s n close in fighters ( multi role) America plays a global game so they play their part with NATO and still project their Navy and air dominance capabilities to spend the globe. So what I’m saying is I wouldn’t take it personal as far as NATO countries because there is strategically configured as such needs were indicated. The Rafiel opted out of being so heavily reliant on the US n wanted a multi role built at home that can operate at home n abroad on us carriers or as part of NATO needs. Rafael huge weopons load!

  • @julianjames2899
    @julianjames2899 2 місяці тому

    Hey i just wanted to point out that i saw something in the background of your set, and it didn't really click until you said you were a navy brat - the folded flag. I'm not sure who it was you lost, but you'd best believe they would be damn proud of the man you've become

  • @ethrilpalpatine6159
    @ethrilpalpatine6159 4 місяці тому +4

    Has the Tornado been retired? I know the RAF pulled theirs but I thought Germany and Italy still operates a few units.

    • @jwativ13
      @jwativ13 4 місяці тому +1

      Germany definitely still has stem in operational service, I saw a few flying just a few weeks ago.

    • @harrycauvert9934
      @harrycauvert9934 3 місяці тому +2

      Ce gars là ignore l'existence de l'Europe, visiblement dans son esprit il n'existe que la Russie et les États-Unis .... Eurofighter, Rafale, Tornado, Mirage, Gripen .... ça n'existe pas .... 😶

  • @ryanroper628
    @ryanroper628 2 місяці тому

    Totally agree about the appreciation because losing energy and slowing down and being able to still control in dog fighting without stall is so important kind of makes me appreciate the su-57 if it didn't have crappy engines in American engines

  • @Melvorgazh
    @Melvorgazh 2 місяці тому +1

    The Tomcat is the coolest 😎

  • @MrCastodian
    @MrCastodian 3 місяці тому

    Standard ranking that make all the efforts so that the “right” planes are on top.

  • @juanhunter7073
    @juanhunter7073 3 місяці тому +1

    Why did you drop the 1-10 ratings for the halfway through the video?

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 4 місяці тому

    The SR-71 BlackBirds have the greatest combined Thrust to Weight ratio. The SR-71's J-58 engines could produce between 71k to 75k total thrust during operation. The J58's were a Hybryid of a conventional and turbo ram jet. The J58 in Turbro Ram Jet opertation got more efficent and that allowed the SR-71 to have longer operational missions.

    • @TalmoTheSell
      @TalmoTheSell 4 місяці тому +2

      Except the SR-71 isn’t a fighter

  • @larseriksson8970
    @larseriksson8970 4 місяці тому

    Are the pictures in the end in the somewhat correct scale in the end? if so, does it help the smaler planes to not get hit by a enemy? i dont know anything about jet fighters. but i know if i pee in a coffeecup from 1meter the chanses are bigger that i miss than if i pee in a toilet.

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому +1

      I tried to keep them relatively realistic, but no I'd say they're not to true scale because sometimes I had to shrink thinks to make them fit

  • @SethyReach
    @SethyReach 4 місяці тому +3

    To me the French Rafael is the best aircraft

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 3 місяці тому +1

      u certainly are one of a kind 😢

  • @ruthnoya8424
    @ruthnoya8424 4 місяці тому +1

    News to me that the F16 has a 72,000 ft/min climb rate 😮

  • @Gunner._
    @Gunner._ 2 місяці тому +1

    why did u put CAS aircraft into a Fighter jet category

  • @LaneThePlane
    @LaneThePlane 4 місяці тому

    you went less hard on the russian jets as most others would, i appreciate that

  • @KoolDuckGuy
    @KoolDuckGuy 3 місяці тому +1

    blue angels on the thumbnail made me realise, our groundbreaking F-35C will become another Airshow jet

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  3 місяці тому

      Not for a long time. Since they just upgraded to the super hornet recently.

    • @KoolDuckGuy
      @KoolDuckGuy 3 місяці тому

      @@AviationAustin we will see what happens I guess

  • @vascoapolonio2309
    @vascoapolonio2309 4 місяці тому +1

    Well, there are so many more around the world, but your raking is fair enough

    • @AviationAustin
      @AviationAustin  4 місяці тому

      There is a few I didn't capture.

    • @vascoapolonio2309
      @vascoapolonio2309 4 місяці тому

      @@AviationAustin maybe some english, italian, brasilien, i think so, im no expert.

  • @David-gh6vp
    @David-gh6vp 4 місяці тому +4

    A superior piece of work in almost all regards, if only it could be completed someday. I like the point scheme, but would add production numbers, as that is a good indicator of an aircraft's value. Thank you for the work and incredible amount of thought that went into this. . . .

  • @charlesglaser4868
    @charlesglaser4868 4 місяці тому +2

    Your comparisons between U.S. & Russian jets, leaves a lot to be desired!!

  • @fishdude666ify
    @fishdude666ify 4 місяці тому +13

    Did I blink and miss the F-4 and the F-14?🤨

    • @Skylers_Animations_Editz
      @Skylers_Animations_Editz 3 місяці тому +7

      There are both retired he said modern aircraft just to classify

    • @fishdude666ify
      @fishdude666ify 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Skylers_Animations_Editz F-5? Retired or not the F-4 and F-14 are WAY more "modern" than the F-5. That was my point I guess. Fair point though, he does specify operational; although again, who's using the F-5 in 2024?

    • @Skylers_Animations_Editz
      @Skylers_Animations_Editz 3 місяці тому

      @@fishdude666ify I’m not sure, but your right the f14 is very modernized just outdated when it comes to other things since it was made to compete in the Cold War

    • @dustinleonard3408
      @dustinleonard3408 3 місяці тому +3

      other countries still use the F-4 and F-14, so technically they fall into the same boat as the F-5. just sayin.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 3 місяці тому

      @@fishdude666ify That was the newer version of the F5 that the USA allowed to be sold to a lot of countries that may be considered 3rd world. It's actually a pretty respectable little plane. It's really cheap and the thrust to weight ratio isn't bad. It's much more modern than the old F5. I Think it's called the F5 Tiger 2.

  • @cockatoo010
    @cockatoo010 4 місяці тому +1

    The Su-24 is Ukraine's primary delivery platform for the SCALP/Storm Shadow cruise missiles, which have been pretty effective for them
    Pretty cool for such an old jet

  • @dragunovbushcraft152
    @dragunovbushcraft152 4 місяці тому +1

    Good video, but I think you got the Hornet, and Eagle backwards.

  • @user-uq7lf6yf9b
    @user-uq7lf6yf9b 2 місяці тому +2

    Your analysis was perfect just that the su57's cost points should be higher because although the programme cost was high cost for making one is very low as compared to us jets , also its effectiveness should not be judged , they r not using it because they only have 2 squadrons , thats why they are reluctant to use it 😅
    Anyways awesome video 🎉