Nice...short and sweet. Coulda really got more history from many of its former members, but could turn into a TV mini series.😊 You compared the sound thru the years and you touched a bit on the "shock absorber" marching....the glide, that Jaguar rock. Man when you do those other bands, here's where you can clearly see all the copying. Look at there uni's thru the years, the way they march, and music sound. Now almost all of em(except a few others) tryin to be like us. Every band I get a glimpse of these days either tryin to be us, or tryin to be FAMU. They won't admit it tho. I've been around the Juke most of my life and seen/heard it all. It's all good tho. I'm glad to see everyone continue to grow musically.
Other programs definitely copy from SU. I'm JSU all day, but SU is the only other band I'd rock with!! Love hate relationship!!😂😂😂 My hat goes off to the directors and students that made The Juke what it is today. What I really appreciate about the Juke is that they never changed their style based on what was popular over time. 💪🏾💯 Much Respect.
The term Human Jukebox came in during the 70's. The band was noted for playing tunes regularly heard on the radio. I can remember my homeboy and neighbor Chester White say "put a quarter in the jukebox. From there the name caught on. In those day we were always the last band standing because of our extensive repertoire a tradition that lives today. #SU4Life
I ran into the fall 2005 edition of the human jukebox when I was a crab at uapb and man let me tell you that was my real introduction to college band up close and personal they play "Black and blues" and did a 45° turn directly at us and that sound hit us in the chest and the look on my face I can only imagine.
Old School Juke here. Thanks for your review I really enjoyed it. I can't wait to see the similar video you are working on about Jackson State. Maybe after Jackson State you can do Texas Southern. These videos put the history out there for all to see........they shed light on who are the originators and who are the imitators.
Naw, that man wrote some of the most complex stuff on a lark. I'd be looking at the paper like..."I play tuba, tho!" He pulled songs out of obscurity. I swear he wrote the techno version of "Nobody's Supposed to be Here."😂 RIP to the GOAT
I wish we could’ve heard anything from 96-99. That was my years. Twisted, Pyt, Working day and night, I think it’s love, love thang, blood on the dance floor, this is for you fanfare, doing just fine, for you, word up, never satisfied, black and blues, can you feel it, Under Pressure etc.
I am a graduate of SU from the early 80's. I'm not from Bacon Rouge but spent a lot of time there growing up. Southern has always had a great band. I was a little disappointed that there were no girls in the band because I played in the band in highschool and would have loved to have been apart of the tradition of the Human Jukebox. Doc was a genius and so were all of the assistant directors. I try listening to other HBCU bands with an open mind but I have yet to hear anyone else who compare. Ni matter the year from the 70s up none compares. Thanks for the memories.
The first females (2 of them) to March for SU under Doc was in 1989. One of them completed 4 years (1989-1992) and was the first to get her Letterman jacket under Doc as a band member. After that it was a trump female Trumpet player in 1995. Then in 1997 females began to join consistently
Eyyy, Thanks for clarifying!! I wasn't 100 percent sure. I couldn't find the direct information. I really appreciate you for watching. By the way, is this Lawrence Jackson? If so, man great work!!
@@unofficialbandhead2143 Yo it wasn't so much that females didn't want in or wasn't talented enough, just that the initiation (crabbing) was too much for them. At one point a female had only made it to Tuesday of crab week. In fall 85 we had about 140 or so crabs try out, only around 80 made the final band and that could be an exaggeration. Crab week was brutal. And this is all men, so you know the toll on a female.
I saw a band captain's band yearbook from about 1979 and there was a clarinetist with long hair being touted as the first female band member.That band captain was also an assistant at Southern under Doc.and a band director at St.Augustine in New Orleans.
One of my theories on SU prior to them increasing the numbers is that they were able to create such a big sound with a small-ish number by using those fiberglass tubas. I looked at it like a car radio..turn the bass all the way down & turn the treble all the way up & it’s a noticeable difference. The sound was able to go further. With the addition of the hybrid and all brass tubas, they’ve increased the numbers to keep that SU sound. Haymer also switched out baritones for Euphos, giving them more power. I also like how their tubas have complex parts in songs, like a big string bass in an old New Orleans jazz band.
There's history behind us calling ourselves Jukes too. Originally, and by the old head Jukes, they called themselves Jukebox. In 2002, new and old heads of the Jukebox were on SWACFans (older media outlet for SWAC band members). Initially, I fell in line calling us Jukebox members as on this site we'd check to see who was who in the Jukebox and all other members of other SWAC bands did the same for their members. In a bit of syllable reduction, I started separating the box portion and started calling us Jukes. It caught on into our inner circle on the site (Jared from 96, Eddie from 97, cats from 98, a ton of cats from 99, some 2000's cats and a few 01 cats). It took off from there but not wholesale. I think it was by 2007 or so before it stretched SWAC-wide with everyone calling us Jukes.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 No doubt. In case you ever do another video, you can drop that info. I'd also like to see the other years; especially Doc's prime years of 70's - 2005. His arrangements and his arrangers took no shorts or losses with the pen and Doc kept the field shows tight.
You're right. In 1995, the trumpets were the star. 2005, there was more of a shift and broadness to the sound distribution which added more color. 2016, the shift went to the low brass and the blend was distributed throughout each section more holistically. You are totally right, bro! Great video and narration.
The great thing about the Juke is that they're only in competition with themselves. You managed to capture that competition using this concept. I applaud you sir I would like to see further examples of this with su and im sure other schools would like the same. These Three Words and that entire fields show is top notch
Man, I appreciate it Rob! I'm waiting to see how this video does before I make another one. These types of videos take alot of work lol. So enough votes 🗳 and I'm down.
Nate the Great is one of the greatest musical arrangers of all time. I hope the band world didn't lose him. I'd love him to take a B Simmons approach and start from scratch. But he seems broken over the SU situation.
Thanks for this!! I crabbbed in 87..under Doc, Eric Baskin, Roy Jones and the legendary Chester White.. Played Tuba under Section Leader Julius "Jap " McCary who is a legend himself.. Much Love to all my Jukes Past and present.. #JukeNation #AndDown
Good history but let us not forget some of the assistant directors who also had a great influence on the program. During my time in the SU Band (1970-74) chief arranger Paul I. Adams was largely responsible for the sound of the band. Also Don Dillon was responsible for the drills. We also had student arrangers as Cornel Knighten,Roy Johnson,Terrel Jackson, Lawrence Jackson just to name a few who also added to the unique sound the band was noted for. "Often imitated but never duplicated" Robert Jackson 70-74 ,Tuba section leader
Excellent coverage of SU history and evolution over years. 👏🏾👏🏾 Great way to educate on the HBCU band history tradition development of their marching style . It’s only right to do FAMU next as Dr. Foster innovated, patented marching band techniques, and influenced HBCU style of marching band.
Thanks tuning in. I appreciate the support. I'd love to do other schools. Just need the backing and support I'm going to out a vote in my community section. Make you're subscribed and you check the notification so that you can vote.
So bandheads should witness these two drilling bands from the mid 20th century. FAMU had a huge role, but as the sole innovators, some would say that's debatable. See these two drills all the way through. Very informative and entertaining. Southland Marching Band ua-cam.com/video/GsplW3aAwgY/v-deo.html Memphis State Marching Band ua-cam.com/video/q_UBolEJnHM/v-deo.html
Thanks for tuning in I appreciate the support. For sure, I'm going to put out a poll soon based upon how many people are asking for this by school. Whoever gets the most votes I will put one together for that band program.
I really wish you would have used the clip of Southern at that Battle of the Bands in 05 playing And Then What.. It was by far the most extremely intense clip of that song ever. It's hard for any band playing any song to top that. even Southern themselves. Also.. you can see and hear the evolution of the Tubas over the years. as they years go on, Southern showcase their Tubas more. The tubas was more so kind of part of the drum section in the beginning, but as the yrs evolve, they annexed them more to the brass section. Truth be told, this is the reason New Orleans Schools and Allstar band are, or were not as big on their tuba section but as Southern are now show casing their Tubas, you're beginning to see New Orleans do the same.
I have always respected SU's Tuba section for the simple fact that the WHOLE ENTIRE SECTION PLAYS AS ONE AND TOGETHER i just didn't really like the sound because of the Fiberglass and I always said if only they had Chrome Horns....Compare the sound of the tubas now and then ijs🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
You didn't mention anything about the legendary SU LEGEND Carnell Knighten, who created/wrote most of the songs in THE JUKE'S SUPER MEGA BOOK from. The 80s to the mid 00s🤷🏿
The name " Human Jukebox " came from the Southern University's Clarinetist Robert A. Christy, Jr. in 1973, before 1973 Southern University's Band was not called the " Human Jukebox "!
What’s crazy is we actually were supposed to play back at one in 2016 for the bayou classic botb but we didn’t. I crabbed in 2016 and marched from 16-19. Kenneth Collins was a “5th ripper” in that band. I was glad i got to hear the current version play it live in person in Houston.
It's the S on there chest 😂 southern band have always been awesome 👏 this program have put out the most band directors and assistant directors then any other program that says alot🤷
Can you do one on Alabama State and Dr Thomas E Lyle and his all male bands from back in the day and this is coming from a member of AAMU marching maroon and white I’m from Montgomery and grew up around some of States better bands they were top tier from 1966 through the 70’s and 80’s and early 90’s
Great piece brother. Gregg's and Jackson era's were field show oriented. The Jukebox has been pushed towards a more stands competition band. Still does some seriously good field shows, but the bent towards drills are nowhere near what it was during the Gregg's era. Gregg's built the Jukebox on 3 pillars. 1. Articulated cutoff 2. Jaguar Rock 3. Tempo. The Jukebox is the most imitated marching band on planet earth. Please highlight this when you do other band programs? From it's writing for power music to it's drill book. It's also the best dressed band. Some have even copied that. Drop another coin N2 That Jukebox Baby!
You need to do more research. Ludwig Freeman with assistant band directors Alvin Batiste and Paul Adams are responsibly for all of the arrangers you have today.
Side note was it just me or was 2005 the best yr across the board for HBCU bands cause damn it seem like everyone was on point🤔 anyways I think the band was more progressive under Nathan Haymer the drill of the field show was more extravagant not taking anything from Mr. Taylor it's just it seems like since he has taken over the show is great don't get me wrong but it more status quo. Kinda how you would see southern do the halftime score and then transform to the SU on the field. Nothing wrong with that for traditionalists but it's something to be said for taking risks and doing something new with the show. The sound is perfect through the years they have never fallen off the sound quality 🙌🏽 perfect. SU is still one of the best bands in my book.
In the late 80's to early 90's they did not tune, he's right they pushed all the way in and cranked up after warming up. They play scales and a E flat warm then it's go time.....
Yes!! Same concept. I try to use words that a person who may not have a high musical understanding can relate to or even feel when they hear it. Thanks for tuning in!
Please don't use the term "hazing." It was a military based tactic to produce humility amongst the freshmen to learn the system with a level of discipline.
Thanks for the support. What's your email, it would be great to discuss knowledge with someone who knows history. By the way, this was not designed to capture SUs full history. Nor was it designed to discuss anyone outside of being the Director of band for SU as the full title. This is a snapshot. Just for those who wanna know a little bit more about the band other than just them playing. My email is in the about section. Feel free to email me. I'm currently trying working on the JSU history. Unofficialbandhead@gmail.com look forward to hearing from you.
The sound they seem to possess is a DCI sound. The color is very similar. They just put HBCU volume with it. And they don’t let everyone in their band so all the musicians are top notch. No horn holders. Bethune Cookman sound is comparable as well except they don’t over blow. Will you do one of these on PV?
@@unofficialbandhead2143 I’m late. I meant one day in the future. Thanks for covering our drum majors and march in though 🙏🏽. I may be a little biased though I try to listen to music objectively but I feel we have the most exciting cadence and march in compared to the rest. I been comparing that on my own the last 2 weeks. Not on my channel though.
I think you understand what I mean. Music is understood on multiple levels. He may not play an instrument in that way. But certainly he understands music on a production level and has proven creative ability to create music and write music lyrically. Doesn't mean we agree with his antics, but cmon! You reaching now. Let's be real.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 I am being real young man.Most of the kids in the band you're talking about would run circles around KW.To label him a genius is to belittle real musicians and musical artist.However, thanx for the reply.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 If you think Southerns music dept(which includes the marching band) is only about marching bands,maybe this conversation is useless? Charlie Singleton from Cameo was in Southern's band,so was Randy Jackson from American Idol and Journey,Branford Marsalis played with the Jukes so did Donald Harrison.Kanye West is a DJ,mixing other peoples creations.His politics aside and I agree with a lot of his opinions.Maybe he's a genius for this generation.But what does that say about this generation.Thanx for the reply
I believe southern music department is full of creative genius indeed. But they aren't the only ones. Music has many colors and flavors my brother with all due respect. And in this generation indeed Kanye west is one of them like him or not. He made an impact on the music game. Regardless of how we feel about past history. We can't just ignore present day. Be blessed.
This is a CRITICAL review so skip this comment if you don't want to hear it. (1) Why do bandheads insist on watching old (and new) videos and accept that the audio - sound - is what was played? Today go listen to the 8 to 10 videos of TOMORROW, arranged by Director Taylor. Each sounds different & one stands above the other for clarity & compensates for the buzzy & distortion from the horns that audio equipment records w/o expensive upgrades. (2) You didn't give a history of SU b/c you missed 80% of the story. Dr. Greggs was on Nightline & there are 4 (four) PBS documentaries on this band. (3) Lastly, I'll stop here b/c I do appreciate the hard work you put into it. You completely MISSED the important history of brass bands in the United States. After wartime, the US military would dispose of their instruments. Black musicians (HBCU's) snatched them up. Black servicemen used these instruments & blended with the existing sound in New Orleans. They were forced to go North if they wanted undergrad to doctorate degrees in music. This is why SU has that one DM - a remnant of Northern style. I never heard of the Juke until COVID. Seems wrong that something so ugly could bring such beautiful music to my attn. There are long papers on the history of Dr. Gregg's work and Black Marching Bands. Dr. Gregg's has a display section in the African American Museum in DC. His fave motto was "Often Imitated but Never Duplicated". So on to Brian Simmons; he disproved Doc's motto. Disloyal! Dishonest! There's no need to do a video on TSU's Ocean of Soul. It no longer exists. Simmons OBLITERATED it. I appreciate why TSU grads were furious when he was hired. I get it now. Their worst fears came to fruition. They wanted a TSU band grad to be director. I supported Simmons. What I find most hurtful is that he filled his pockets, his suitcase, his car & a UHaul truck w/34-years of Doc's hard work, sweat, creativity, legacy, passion & innovation. He snuck it over to TSU. Bought uniforms like SU's & even grew facial hair like Mr. Taylor. What? That's just plain weird. So when you see TSU today, don't be fooled. You are seeing a bootleg copy of SU - SU West. His actions are immoral and unethical. One day when he matures and wakes up, he WILL realize THAT he killed a band's history & CULTURE due to his ignorance, inexperience, & ego. He's done a great disservice to the HOUSE BUILT by Dr. Greggs and great machine aka The Human Jukebox he CREATED fro his imagination. I am hugely surprised that Simmons didn't use his own creativity to ramp up, improve and a better & stronger TSU band. Dozens of SU grads have been band directors at other schools/colleges/universities. Simmons is the only one to vacuum up every crumb Dr. Greggs left and imposed it over an existing band program. I am INSULTED on behalf of Doc. It's CRIMINAL!!! (BTW, there's a great & entertaining dissertation on the early BOTB btwn JSU & SU. I mean their first battle was in 1929. There was a hiatus of about 30-years.)
Dude you can't compare a song dat was written for one year to other years they played it cause it was written for dat one year base of the strengths of the band let's say it was written for da mellows cause they was strong then da band five years later pulls it out and play it and they mellows ain't dat strong it's going to sound different
Nice...short and sweet. Coulda really got more history from many of its former members, but could turn into a TV mini series.😊 You compared the sound thru the years and you touched a bit on the "shock absorber" marching....the glide, that Jaguar rock. Man when you do those other bands, here's where you can clearly see all the copying. Look at there uni's thru the years, the way they march, and music sound. Now almost all of em(except a few others) tryin to be like us. Every band I get a glimpse of these days either tryin to be us, or tryin to be FAMU. They won't admit it tho. I've been around the Juke most of my life and seen/heard it all. It's all good tho. I'm glad to see everyone continue to grow musically.
This is why people hate on SU. Let's just appreciate the homage...😔 humble face. Preciate you bro!!!
Other programs definitely copy from SU. I'm JSU all day, but SU is the only other band I'd rock with!! Love hate relationship!!😂😂😂 My hat goes off to the directors and students that made The Juke what it is today. What I really appreciate about the Juke is that they never changed their style based on what was popular over time. 💪🏾💯 Much Respect.
Great representation of my beloved Human Jukebox Fall 95
The term Human Jukebox came in during the 70's. The band was noted for playing tunes regularly heard on the radio. I can remember my homeboy and neighbor Chester White say "put a quarter in the jukebox. From there the name caught on. In those day we were always the last band standing because of our extensive repertoire a tradition that lives today.
#SU4Life
I ran into the fall 2005 edition of the human jukebox when I was a crab at uapb and man let me tell you that was my real introduction to college band up close and personal they play "Black and blues" and did a 45° turn directly at us and that sound hit us in the chest and the look on my face I can only imagine.
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Broo this is a hell of a video , that research that went into this is unparalleled,
It’s a documentary, I love it
Appreciate that fam! I love your work too man.. keepem coming bro. Let's keep growing the space out bro. You on Instagram? @Gaminworld
Old School Juke here. Thanks for your review I really enjoyed it. I can't wait to see the similar video you are working on about Jackson State. Maybe after Jackson State you can do Texas Southern. These videos put the history out there for all to see........they shed light on who are the originators and who are the imitators.
Mr. Knighten was greatness in the understanding of the dignity of simplicity. Nothing overly complex, but musically solid.
Naw, that man wrote some of the most complex stuff on a lark. I'd be looking at the paper like..."I play tuba, tho!" He pulled songs out of obscurity. I swear he wrote the techno version of "Nobody's Supposed to be Here."😂 RIP to the GOAT
Wonderful job
Very informative!!! Thank you so much for sharing! Keep up the great work. 🥁🥁
I wish we could’ve heard anything from 96-99. That was my years. Twisted, Pyt, Working day and night, I think it’s love, love thang, blood on the dance floor, this is for you fanfare, doing just fine, for you, word up, never satisfied, black and blues, can you feel it, Under Pressure etc.
Thinking about doing a reaction to SU vs NCAT when they had a gym battle.
They need to bring all those arrangements back…
99 is my favorite jukebox. I still have a vhs of that year. That band made me fall in love with marching bands
@@ChristopherLakeWilliams same
O boy that Black and Blues yes sir
I am a graduate of SU from the early 80's. I'm not from Bacon Rouge but spent a lot of time there growing up. Southern has always had a great band. I was a little disappointed that there were no girls in the band because I played in the band in highschool and would have loved to have been apart of the tradition of the Human Jukebox. Doc was a genius and so were all of the assistant directors. I try listening to other HBCU bands with an open mind but I have yet to hear anyone else who compare. Ni matter the year from the 70s up none compares. Thanks for the memories.
You are not alone. 1995 written by a SU legend Mr. Carnell Knighten.
As you are listening to the different years, take into account the evolution of recording equipment
Nice job
Thank you for watching!! I appreciate it
Thank You for this my brother..90s was my years 💙💛
The first females (2 of them) to March for SU under Doc was in 1989. One of them completed 4 years (1989-1992) and was the first to get her Letterman jacket under Doc as a band member. After that it was a trump female Trumpet player in 1995. Then in 1997 females began to join consistently
Eyyy, Thanks for clarifying!! I wasn't 100 percent sure. I couldn't find the direct information. I really appreciate you for watching. By the way, is this Lawrence Jackson? If so, man great work!!
Was her crab name "Rosa Parks"?
@@unofficialbandhead2143 Yo it wasn't so much that females didn't want in or wasn't talented enough, just that the initiation (crabbing) was too much for them.
At one point a female had only made it to Tuesday of crab week.
In fall 85 we had about 140 or so crabs try out, only around 80 made the final band and that could be an exaggeration. Crab week was brutal. And this is all men, so you know the toll on a female.
Gotcha. I knew it had subduing to do with that, but I wasn't well versed enough to articulate that. Thanks for breaking that down for me.
I saw a band captain's band yearbook from about 1979 and there was a clarinetist with long hair being touted as the first female band member.That band captain was also an assistant at Southern under Doc.and a band director at St.Augustine in New Orleans.
1st female tuba player at SU was, my crab sister, Erica Davis from Memphis, TN in 2003
YES LAWD! She was a beast… I loved her I’m a little teapot dance to Defense Jags!😭😭😭
This is awesome, I Love Southern Marching Band!! Son this a great!🎊💯
One of my theories on SU prior to them increasing the numbers is that they were able to create such a big sound with a small-ish number by using those fiberglass tubas. I looked at it like a car radio..turn the bass all the way down & turn the treble all the way up & it’s a noticeable difference. The sound was able to go further.
With the addition of the hybrid and all brass tubas, they’ve increased the numbers to keep that SU sound. Haymer also switched out baritones for Euphos, giving them more power.
I also like how their tubas have complex parts in songs, like a big string bass in an old New Orleans jazz band.
There's history behind us calling ourselves Jukes too. Originally, and by the old head Jukes, they called themselves Jukebox. In 2002, new and old heads of the Jukebox were on SWACFans (older media outlet for SWAC band members). Initially, I fell in line calling us Jukebox members as on this site we'd check to see who was who in the Jukebox and all other members of other SWAC bands did the same for their members. In a bit of syllable reduction, I started separating the box portion and started calling us Jukes. It caught on into our inner circle on the site (Jared from 96, Eddie from 97, cats from 98, a ton of cats from 99, some 2000's cats and a few 01 cats). It took off from there but not wholesale. I think it was by 2007 or so before it stretched SWAC-wide with everyone calling us Jukes.
Mam, this a dope story. Would have been great to add into the timeline. Thanks for the knowledge drop.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 No doubt. In case you ever do another video, you can drop that info. I'd also like to see the other years; especially Doc's prime years of 70's - 2005. His arrangements and his arrangers took no shorts or losses with the pen and Doc kept the field shows tight.
You're right. In 1995, the trumpets were the star. 2005, there was more of a shift and broadness to the sound distribution which added more color. 2016, the shift went to the low brass and the blend was distributed throughout each section more holistically. You are totally right, bro! Great video and narration.
The great thing about the Juke is that they're only in competition with themselves. You managed to capture that competition using this concept. I applaud you sir
I would like to see further examples of this with su and im sure other schools would like the same.
These Three Words and that entire fields show is top notch
How did Mr. Haymer manage to make These Three Words such a funky tune
Nate showed you all SU had to offer in this tune
Man, I appreciate it Rob! I'm waiting to see how this video does before I make another one. These types of videos take alot of work lol. So enough votes 🗳 and I'm down.
Nate the Great is one of the greatest musical arrangers of all time. I hope the band world didn't lose him. I'd love him to take a B Simmons approach and start from scratch. But he seems broken over the SU situation.
Thanks for this!! I crabbbed in 87..under Doc, Eric Baskin, Roy Jones and the legendary Chester White.. Played Tuba under Section Leader Julius "Jap " McCary who is a legend himself.. Much Love to all my Jukes Past and present.. #JukeNation #AndDown
Haymer version is tighter with more bite. And gotta put respect on Killa Kev name he do it for us out here! Get well frat!
Good history but let us not forget some of the assistant directors who also had a great influence on the program. During my time in the SU Band (1970-74) chief arranger Paul I. Adams was largely responsible for the sound of the band. Also Don Dillon was responsible for the drills. We also had student arrangers as Cornel Knighten,Roy Johnson,Terrel Jackson, Lawrence Jackson just to name a few who also added to the unique sound the band was noted for. "Often imitated but never duplicated"
Robert Jackson 70-74 ,Tuba section leader
You are not alone and These 3 words, Masterpieces !
I marched in 97 and we had 3 girls in the band and 2 punks
Excellent coverage of SU history and evolution over years. 👏🏾👏🏾 Great way to educate on the HBCU band history tradition development of their marching style . It’s only right to do FAMU next as Dr. Foster innovated, patented marching band techniques, and influenced HBCU style of marching band.
Thanks tuning in. I appreciate the support. I'd love to do other schools. Just need the backing and support I'm going to out a vote in my community section. Make you're subscribed and you check the notification so that you can vote.
So bandheads should witness these two drilling bands from the mid 20th century. FAMU had a huge role, but as the sole innovators, some would say that's debatable.
See these two drills all the way through. Very informative and entertaining.
Southland Marching Band ua-cam.com/video/GsplW3aAwgY/v-deo.html
Memphis State Marching Band
ua-cam.com/video/q_UBolEJnHM/v-deo.html
If you’re wondering why Doc was in college at 15. At that time blacks in the south weren’t aloud in high schools so they went directly to college.
What exact year did the euphonium make it in southern?
Man this great, what a great concept
Eyy what's up Rob! Thanks for tuning in! I appreciate you! 🙏
Dope vid bro 🙏🏾💯
Thanks bro!
Dione was the first lady Snare drummer 05 , currently there is a lady tenor drummer there now 🤘🏽FUNK FACTORY , M PHI G🥁
I definitely like the idea of this. Can you please do one of Thee Jackson State University Sonic Boom of the South?
Thanks for tuning in I appreciate the support. For sure, I'm going to put out a poll soon based upon how many people are asking for this by school. Whoever gets the most votes I will put one together for that band program.
I would have loved to seen some footage of the band when we wore White overlays with E flat horns.
Mid to late 1970s and early 1980s.
I actually went to high school with Southerns first female tuba player. I remember when Doc Greggs recruited her.
Love Haymer!
The Best Band In The Land 💙 💛 💙💛💙💛
The best arrangements in my opinion from the Juke came from Knighten, Simmons, Taylor and Haymer.
You must haven't heard Roy Johnson arrangements or Eric Baskins or Paul Adams (the one that gave SU the sound it has)
@@omegapsiphi5 right 💯
I really wish you would have used the clip of Southern at that Battle of the Bands in 05 playing And Then What.. It was by far the most extremely intense clip of that song ever. It's hard for any band playing any song to top that. even Southern themselves. Also.. you can see and hear the evolution of the Tubas over the years. as they years go on, Southern showcase their Tubas more. The tubas was more so kind of part of the drum section in the beginning, but as the yrs evolve, they annexed them more to the brass section. Truth be told, this is the reason New Orleans Schools and Allstar band are, or were not as big on their tuba section but as Southern are now show casing their Tubas, you're beginning to see New Orleans do the same.
I definitely like the video and the details you put into it definitely have a new follower here man great content!
I appreciate that Trucker Charlie. Stay tuned!
OMG 2016 Trumpets 😍😍😍
Do this kinda video on alcorn
You kissed the vote. I will put out another poll after I JSU. They were voted next
97 year was crazy....
Please do one of Bama State
Lookup the pronunciation of the French surname Richard.
I have always respected SU's Tuba section for the simple fact that the WHOLE ENTIRE SECTION PLAYS AS ONE AND TOGETHER i just didn't really like the sound because of the Fiberglass and I always said if only they had Chrome Horns....Compare the sound of the tubas now and then ijs🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
You didn't mention anything about the legendary SU LEGEND Carnell Knighten, who created/wrote most of the songs in THE JUKE'S SUPER MEGA BOOK from. The 80s to the mid 00s🤷🏿
I was only covering directors of bands in these sessions.
Southern is the best band in the world that sound will may you deaf 💯
Could you do one of The Boom !
It's coming. They're next on my list.
The name " Human Jukebox " came from the Southern University's Clarinetist Robert A. Christy, Jr. in 1973, before 1973 Southern University's Band was not called the " Human Jukebox "!
What’s crazy is we actually were supposed to play back at one in 2016 for the bayou classic botb but we didn’t. I crabbed in 2016 and marched from 16-19. Kenneth Collins was a “5th ripper” in that band. I was glad i got to hear the current version play it live in person in Houston.
Nice these are the kids of stories we as fans should hear ore of. Thansk for tuning in. I appreciate the support.
It's the S on there chest 😂 southern band have always been awesome 👏 this program have put out the most band directors and assistant directors then any other program that says alot🤷
What’s up this is big kentwood tuba section leader from southern University in 2004 and Brandon Brumfield is my cousin
Yo yo!!! What's up bro!! Hope that you're well bro!! How is everything?
Everything is good! Thanks for the review with southern
You missing a band director
Can you do one on Alabama State and Dr Thomas E Lyle and his all male bands from back in the day and this is coming from a member of AAMU marching maroon and white I’m from Montgomery and grew up around some of States better bands they were top tier from 1966 through the 70’s and 80’s and early 90’s
Great piece brother.
Gregg's and Jackson era's were field show oriented.
The Jukebox has been pushed towards a more stands competition band. Still does some seriously good field shows, but the bent towards drills are nowhere near what it was during the Gregg's era.
Gregg's built the Jukebox on 3 pillars.
1. Articulated cutoff
2. Jaguar Rock
3. Tempo.
The Jukebox is the most imitated marching band on planet earth. Please highlight this when you do other band programs? From it's writing for power music to it's drill book. It's also the best dressed band. Some have even copied that.
Drop another coin N2 That Jukebox Baby!
OMG absolutely enjoyed this piece. #SUAlum86
The evolution of SU sound is because Mr.Knight, Haymer, Simmons and Taylor!
This is great. Spartan Legion!
You need to do more research. Ludwig Freeman with assistant band directors Alvin Batiste and Paul Adams are responsibly for all of the arrangers you have today.
Chocolate was the first girl on tuba.. in 03 or 04 she was good.. 2002 was a good year ✌️
Side note was it just me or was 2005 the best yr across the board for HBCU bands cause damn it seem like everyone was on point🤔 anyways I think the band was more progressive under Nathan Haymer the drill of the field show was more extravagant not taking anything from Mr. Taylor it's just it seems like since he has taken over the show is great don't get me wrong but it more status quo. Kinda how you would see southern do the halftime score and then transform to the SU on the field. Nothing wrong with that for traditionalists but it's something to be said for taking risks and doing something new with the show. The sound is perfect through the years they have never fallen off the sound quality 🙌🏽 perfect. SU is still one of the best bands in my book.
I agree Taylor field shows don’t make me feel amazed. But I get it m.
No mention of mr Knighten
Yeah. Can't leave out knighten...
This was covering the directors of band. I would have had to make this over an hour to get to the arrangers as well. Lol. But thanks for watching.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 gotcha
Their "sound" also comes from pushing their tuning slides all the way in.
How do you know
Did you marched?
It's on video. Documented and you can see it when they march in. Calm down.
@@sordidC documented and knowing first hand is two different things
I marched and can tell you, you have no clue what you are talking about
In the late 80's to early 90's they did not tune, he's right they pushed all the way in and cranked up after warming up. They play scales and a E flat warm then it's go time.....
It’s the voicing for me …..I think we’re talking about the same thing when you’re referring to the sound evolution as color
Yes!! Same concept. I try to use words that a person who may not have a high musical understanding can relate to or even feel when they hear it. Thanks for tuning in!
@@unofficialbandhead2143 10-4
Home boy is good but when naothing was at thr helm that was the sound
What song did you play for 05?
And Than What by young Jeezy or JOC. I covered that same peace from 2005, 2011, & 2016.
A girl marched in 94
Please don't use the term "hazing." It was a military based tactic to produce humility amongst the freshmen to learn the system with a level of discipline.
Great history, personally i think they should have left the females out of the band..
I appreciate the love, but some of your knowledge is incorrect. I am a JUKE & true historian of all HBCU bands. Ask ANY director. Hit me me up.
Thanks for the support. What's your email, it would be great to discuss knowledge with someone who knows history. By the way, this was not designed to capture SUs full history. Nor was it designed to discuss anyone outside of being the Director of band for SU as the full title. This is a snapshot. Just for those who wanna know a little bit more about the band other than just them playing. My email is in the about section. Feel free to email me. I'm currently trying working on the JSU history. Unofficialbandhead@gmail.com look forward to hearing from you.
S/o to 2011
You should do the same thing for drum lines that would be dope
Drummers need Love too!
The sound they seem to possess is a DCI sound. The color is very similar. They just put HBCU volume with it. And they don’t let everyone in their band so all the musicians are top notch. No horn holders. Bethune Cookman sound is comparable as well except they don’t over blow. Will you do one of these on PV?
Thanks for tuning in Rifica. Everyone voted for JSU next. I had a vote on community page.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 I’m late. I meant one day in the future. Thanks for covering our drum majors and march in though 🙏🏽. I may be a little biased though I try to listen to music objectively but I feel we have the most exciting cadence and march in compared to the rest. I been comparing that on my own the last 2 weeks. Not on my channel though.
@@RIFICA777 For sure man.. I'm gong to get to PV for sure. They're intermingled with JSUs history. So it's coming!
Kanye West a musical genius and doesn't play any instruments?Cant read or write music?????
I think you understand what I mean. Music is understood on multiple levels. He may not play an instrument in that way. But certainly he understands music on a production level and has proven creative ability to create music and write music lyrically. Doesn't mean we agree with his antics, but cmon! You reaching now. Let's be real.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 I am being real young man.Most of the kids in the band you're talking about would run circles around KW.To label him a genius is to belittle real musicians and musical artist.However, thanx for the reply.
@@rahlohmcdonogh4855 Music is not limited to Marching bands is what I mean my brother. I'm talking about music as a whole.
@@unofficialbandhead2143 If you think Southerns music dept(which includes the marching band) is only about marching bands,maybe this conversation is useless? Charlie Singleton from Cameo was in Southern's band,so was Randy Jackson from American Idol and Journey,Branford Marsalis played with the Jukes so did Donald Harrison.Kanye West is a DJ,mixing other peoples creations.His politics aside and I agree with a lot of his opinions.Maybe he's a genius for this generation.But what does that say about this generation.Thanx for the reply
I believe southern music department is full of creative genius indeed. But they aren't the only ones. Music has many colors and flavors my brother with all due respect. And in this generation indeed Kanye west is one of them like him or not. He made an impact on the music game. Regardless of how we feel about past history. We can't just ignore present day. Be blessed.
This is a CRITICAL review so skip this comment if you don't want to hear it. (1) Why do bandheads insist on watching old (and new) videos and accept that the audio - sound - is what was played? Today go listen to the 8 to 10 videos of TOMORROW, arranged by Director Taylor. Each sounds different & one stands above the other for clarity & compensates for the buzzy & distortion from the horns that audio equipment records w/o expensive upgrades. (2) You didn't give a history of SU b/c you missed 80% of the story. Dr. Greggs was on Nightline & there are 4 (four) PBS documentaries on this band. (3) Lastly, I'll stop here b/c I do appreciate the hard work you put into it. You completely MISSED the important history of brass bands in the United States. After wartime, the US military would dispose of their instruments. Black musicians (HBCU's) snatched them up. Black servicemen used these instruments & blended with the existing sound in New Orleans. They were forced to go North if they wanted undergrad to doctorate degrees in music. This is why SU has that one DM - a remnant of Northern style.
I never heard of the Juke until COVID. Seems wrong that something so ugly could bring such beautiful music to my attn. There are long papers on the history of Dr. Gregg's work and Black Marching Bands. Dr. Gregg's has a display section in the African American Museum in DC. His fave motto was "Often Imitated but Never Duplicated". So on to Brian Simmons; he disproved Doc's motto. Disloyal! Dishonest! There's no need to do a video on TSU's Ocean of Soul. It no longer exists. Simmons OBLITERATED it. I appreciate why TSU grads were furious when he was hired. I get it now. Their worst fears came to fruition. They wanted a TSU band grad to be director. I supported Simmons.
What I find most hurtful is that he filled his pockets, his suitcase, his car & a UHaul truck w/34-years of Doc's hard work, sweat, creativity, legacy, passion & innovation. He snuck it over to TSU. Bought uniforms like SU's & even grew facial hair like Mr. Taylor. What? That's just plain weird. So when you see TSU today, don't be fooled. You are seeing a bootleg copy of SU - SU West. His actions are immoral and unethical. One day when he matures and wakes up, he WILL realize THAT he killed a band's history & CULTURE due to his ignorance, inexperience, & ego. He's done a great disservice to the HOUSE BUILT by Dr. Greggs and great machine aka The Human Jukebox he CREATED fro his imagination.
I am hugely surprised that Simmons didn't use his own creativity to ramp up, improve and a better & stronger TSU band. Dozens of SU grads have been band directors at other schools/colleges/universities. Simmons is the only one to vacuum up every crumb Dr. Greggs left and imposed it over an existing band program. I am INSULTED on behalf of Doc. It's CRIMINAL!!! (BTW, there's a great & entertaining dissertation on the early BOTB btwn JSU & SU. I mean their first battle was in 1929. There was a hiatus of about 30-years.)
Dude you can't compare a song dat was written for one year to other years they played it cause it was written for dat one year base of the strengths of the band let's say it was written for da mellows cause they was strong then da band five years later pulls it out and play it and they mellows ain't dat strong it's going to sound different