These watches are 38 mm. Compare that to the newer Presage that is 41 mm or other Seiko automatics that are 42 mm. For some men with smaller wrists, it is worth paying the current price for the SARB 033 at 38 mm instead of a huge diameter that makes it look like you are wearing a tire on your wrist.
@Bob Smith I got a really good deal on a Datejust and needed a few extra hundred to get the deal done. Stupid really. It wasn't even an unusual Datejust.
mr bacchus I paid $500 CDN for mine and it came with a ColaReb strap and the bracelet still in plastic. Honestly worth it in my opinion, but it is the most expensive watch I’ve bought. Even if I paid $300, it still would be lol
This watch (033 anyway) was my High School graduation present, and it is an awesome watch. I hardly ever wear the thing however as I have worked with my hands in one form or another my entire life, and I did not feel comfortable having a $300 seemingly delicate watch in a construction environment, and I was tired at looking at the scratches of my Seiko 5 (Hardlex really doesn't have any more scratch resistance than a Timex mineral crystal in my experience). I have since bought a quartz Seiko SGG729, a 38mm (wears even smaller than the 033) titanium watch with a sapphire crystal, 100mm water resistance, and a navy blue sunburst dial. It has everything I will ever need in a watch, dressy enough to go with a suit, tough enough to wear to work, small enough to get my hands in hard to reach places, and affordable enough so that I don't mind using it for all of these things. If I was only allowed to have one watch it would be the SGG729, I would want more but I could easily settle. I know this was a long and difficult to read comment so I thank you for reading the ravings of madman who loves watches.
I just bought a SARB035 last week and love it. As a matter of fact it's on my wrist right now. It's Saturday morning here in sunny Arizona, USA and I'm going to meet my three kids for coffee.
Just realized I got the idea from you, when I watched this video last year, to put my SARB035 on a cream perlon strap. I been rocking it all summer. Mine didn't cute match but still love it. Been binging your videos the last few days. Keep it up. Thanks man.
I picked up my SARB035 about a week before the discontinued leak came out. This is one of my favorite watches. The finishing is better than most watches under $1000. I had to get a clasp extension to get it to fit on my large wrists, and it added 4 micro adjustments, thankfully it was cheaper than an extra link. I think these are the best affordable alternatives to the Aqua Terra or the Explorer I.
I own a SARB033 and absolutely love it! Purchased it Feb 2018 at around $400AUD before the prices inflated and it's been my daily wearer ever since. Extreme versatility, gorgeous case proportions, and an open caseback to admire everytime I put it on in the morning. It is an absolutely wonderful daily companion, I really cannot see myself ever selling it. Cheers from Brisbane!
I absolutely love my SARBs. I have the 033 (black dial), 065 (Cocktail Time) and the 017 (Alpinist), and while they all share the same rock solid 6r15 movement, each have their own unique character. If the style calls to you, my advice is don't let the past cloud the present... they will never be $300 again, and you don't want to look back on today and regret not picking it up back 'when it was only $460'. Another great review!
Bought a used SARB033 in Japan for 33,800 JPY (through Mercari). The watch is as good as new, almost 0 scratches anywhere. I was quite surprised. For the price I paid, there's no argument against the purchase. Very happy with it!
Mate, I've had a similar experience with the 6R15s. I know it's a respected movement. Mine ran at +5 out od the box but within a few weeks went down to -5. Comparatively, I have 3 other watches with 4R35 movements that operate at +1,+2 and +5 secs per day. I prefer watches to run fast and not slow, and I'm satisfied with anything running within +10.
I’m personally glad I picked up the black 033, hardly worn, and not got gouged for it. It stopped me looking at the Rolex Explorer I as I felt it fulfilled that role. I wear it on a nice leather strap mostly too ;)
I picked up my SARB033 pre owned, but like new, with the bracelet still in the plastic and a ColaReb strap for... $500CDN. I am aware that there are higher end pieces that are only a little bit more than what I paid, but everything seems to be 40-41mm!! 38 is my absolute max unless it’s a diver and I sold my SKX for that reason. The SARB033 fits me PERFECTLY. And while I may one day realize that I could have had better for my money... well... so be it. But for now I couldn’t be happier and I am wearing this piece every day with a smile!
Hey! I agree with you about the inflated prices. This being said, as a proud owner of a 6 inch wrists, there is nothing quite like it, as newer JDM models are bigger... Maybe the SNKL41, but it's definitely not in the same league. So if you throw wrist size into scale, it still might be worth it. IMHO, of course ;) Cheers!
@@JustOneMoreWatch I get that. It's part of the game :) I enjoyed your review nonetheless! Pssss: check out the SJE073 ;) (completely not in the same price bracket!)
I couldn’t agree more! I looked and looked and couldn’t find a model anything like the SARB033 or really any that were 38mm. I paid $500CDN for my SARB033 with the bracelet still in plastic and with a ColaReb strap. Yes I overpaid (but to be fair the prices in Canada haven’t ever been in the $300 range new when you include taxes shipping and import duties) but in my opinion the watch doesn’t under deliver. It has all of the same features (aside from AR which I am happy to live without the micro-scratches that come with an outer coating) as similar priced entry level Swiss pieces, and while I’ll admit the ETA 2824 is a somewhat nicer/more interesting looking mov’t, my SARB’s 6R15 outperforms the 2824 (-2s/d vs -6s/d) inside the Mido Baroncelli a friend of mine gave to me. So I can at least say that in my experience, the 6R15 at least performs comparably to an ETA 2824. So with that said, what else does a ~$500 entry level Swiss piece have that the SARB033 doesn’t? I’ll tell you one thing though: Here in Canada, some of the prices on eBay.ca have climbed as high as $1,200 and beyond. Would I pay that much for a SARB033? No. Would I sell mine, and turn a $700 profit if you offered me $1200 tomorrow? Not a chance. I can make more money. This watch is discontinued. None more will be made. But I own one, and that is pretty cool 😎
I got a used one for $350AUD. Didn't run to specs, so a retired watchmaker dismantled the movement and overhauled it for $100. Said it was very dry inside, not well oiled which isn't uncommon with mass produced spring movements. Now it runs almost as well as my quartz.
Wwoooohhhooooo! I’m so happy my watch was compared to the Opera House! Great work Jody! Pretty chuffed with the fact that we have the same sized wrists!
I bought the Sarb035 a month ago when it was on sale on Amazon. It’s been my daily watch ever since. I’m glad I bought it even if it is at an inflated price.
It's on amazon right now for $390. Grab it while it lasts. It's being sold by amazon too so it comes with the seiko warranty and free 2 day prime shipping. Guaranteed to sell out soon.
I think Orient Star (Black SAF02002B0 or White SAF02004W0) gives you a better value for price at this point. It's nearly half of the price (250-300 dollars), same looks, with power reserve. It's just too much at this point, this also goes for Alpinist. I'd prefer buying the Orient Star more.
Nice form factor, pretty to be sure, but they don't appear to have any lume at all. That makes them useless for nighttime use, and thus EDC. Excellent for a dress watch though!
The orient star classic is a gorgeous watch, but for all around wear it is sarb in a landslide. Lack of sapphire and lume are the killers. I voted with my wallet a couple of years ago and went sarb035. It might be my most worn watch.
I own the Orient Star Classic and love it. If the SARB033/035 hadn’t gone up in price I would’ve gotten one, but my Orient is filling that gap nicely, regardless of having no lume.
Very cool video! A well-worn and loved watch is the most beautiful finish you can get imo. As of Jan. 2020, SARB033/035 are selling used for $600-$700 USD. The new SARX033/035 (that are similar) start new around $700.
I bought one, too (the 033). I got lucky and found some on Amazon for $357 (a couple of weeks ago). The price jumped since and I'm so glad I pulled the trigger when I did. I only learned about the SARBs in April. Not sure why Seiko decided to discontinue these in 2018 as they have such cult following. Thanks to #jomw I am a proud & happy owner of a 033. This watch is beautiful.
I was fortunate enough to buy both when they were around $300, but not sure I would buy one at almost $500. I do have small wrists, so these watches fit me perfectly. They are solidly built and in time will probably continue to increase in price. So, even if you buy one now, you'll likely be able to get your money out of it if you want to sell it later. As you noticed, it is a strap monster. The black strap and cream dial are an elegant combination.
Discontinuing of SARB033/035 looks as marketing strategy to separate in price 4R and 6R movements, making 6R series more luxurious choice above 500 $. Therefore hard to expect new replacement to appear from Seiko in the same price range with the same level of finishing. I agree what Orient Star may give an alternative for below 500 $ level (also can be within Seiko strategy).
Yes you should, I got both the SARB033 and SARB035 (in fact wearing my SARB035 now). They are my favourite rotations, and I have more expensive - supposedly better - watches but I must say SARBs punch well above their price. Got my 033 over 2 years ago for about C$400, and my 035 more recently at the current price of C$600 all in of course. Are they worth it? Hell yes. Should I have got them at the same time instead? Hell yes to that too but that doesn’t change my decision. When I recently got my 035 even my wife was like “What? Another watch? Damn that’s a CLEAN dial! I like it!”
My wife and I are both heavily involved, personally and professionally, in the arts; never knew you worked at the Sydney opera house! I would love to visit one day; I'll give you a shoutout if we're ever in the area! Btw, I got my father a SARB033 when it was still in production. It is in about the same condition haha. He LOVES it and he isn't a "watch guy." If I were to get one of these nowadays, though, I would only get an Alpinist. At these prices, there are so many better value options than the SARBs.
Picked up a SARB035 in 2023 and love it. I like a lot of watches but this one sings to me so I don't see myself selling it until I can get into a Grand Seiko Snowflake. Agree that the OEM bracelet is not good so I swap between a plain brown leather strap and an Uncle Seiko Continental bracelet.
The 33 arrived today. Overall, the hype about this being a simple, classic, well-crafted, beautiful watch is true and the 38mm is a great size, even on my 7in wrist. In video and photos, the stock bracelet also looks well-crafted, of solid metal, and arguably decent design, but after actually holding it, the metal is very light and almost feels cheap- I can understand why so many just want the watch and are quick to swap out the bracelet. And it’s clear why the reviewer called it an “after-thought.” Just my opinion. I paid $457US, with Prime, new from Amazon - the range is now 450-950. If the price drops in the next few weeks I’ll try to get one for cheaper and return this one. Or maybe I’ll be happy I got it for under 500 and just keep it.
Picked up one on eBay in the U.K. for around £200 after watching J. Anthony's rave review. A week later his broke and found some Chinese components in it, just as my new purchase arrived. At first I was disappointed as I thought it was too small and I'm more used to 40-42 same size wrist as yourself. Having said that I love it and even took it on holiday as an evening watch. Caught a guy wearing a Navitimer oggling it, he might have thought it was a GS too. I would swap it for a SARX, especially the one with blue hands and a bit bigger at 40mm from memory. Keep thinking about flipping it but something holds me back (the inflated price perhaps?). I was going to put it on a Colareb tan suede but after the fashion show I think I prefer the bracelet. Still hovering over the Cadisen diamond and might put the suede on that. Great review.
I picked one up on an amazon sale for $318 usd. Immediately put it on a nice leather strap. What a lovely watch for the price. I wish Seiko continued to make watches around the 38mm range.
I paid the over the odds price 4 months ago for the black version. Don't regret it, it's never off my wrist. In terms of smackaroonies per wear it's way ahead of anything else I own.
Sometimes it's nice to see a review of a well used watch. Love my Sarb035 but it was a slow burn for me. I initially was unimpressed thinking it small and plain, it took wearing it a bit to fully appreciate. Good review, you brought up some details I don't think I ever really noticed.
Superb well informed review! Though I don’t agree with the final conclusion - buy the inflated price - it was underpriced by several hundred dollars from the start! It’s the best example of a watch lover’s watch ever.
I am currently wearing a Seiko SNXS73 which has a silver sunburst dial, they do a blue dial and a dark gray/black . I see this as a great alternative for the current price of a sarb you could get every SNXS dial colour option. A few great quality straps would fit within the funds needed although the 19mm lugs can limit this, you can push some 20mm straps on but makes removal harder. The stock bracelet has a retro charm about it but it’s an acquired taste, most would want to throw it back in the box and never look at it again
Every so often you can get these new on Amazon for $318.00 - they go quick though (you basically have an hour). If you set a Camelcamelcamel.com price watch, you get an email right when the price appears.
I'll have to admit that I used to own the SARB033 and SARB035 but ended up selling the SARB035 because the dial got a bit boring eventually for me and the dial on the SARB033 didn't impress me. I also used to own the SARB017 but sold it because I acquired the rare SARB013. I even ended up selling the SARB013 to put my money elsewhere. Recently I was able to snag a SARB070 on the second hand market with the gold colored bezel polished back to stainless steel and am excited for it to come in. The SARB070 has gold indices as opposed to the silver indices on the SARB035. These watches are great but sometimes get washed out by other watches that are more "fun." This SARB035 and the SARB033 are definitely more conservative pieces. I think I'll fall in love with the SARB line again.
These watches were seriously good value when you could buy them in the Japanese shops. I brought one last year from Bic Camera in Hiroshima for $240US. Amazing value at that price
@@manzahalem8845 actually at the time I saw it around that price in quite a few places in Japan. You are always going to get better pieces when you are actually in the stores in Japan than the on line sites. And unfortunately I have found that most of these local Japanese shops aren't normally that keen to deliver overseas so it is hard to access these great prices unless you are there
Yep, that last Seiko / Monkeyswag combo just has to the THE everyday wearer look for me and the great thing is that there's plenty of ways to get it at whatever price point fits your wallet. Great content - thank you.
I actually sold my SARB035 after a few months. I already owned some cheaper dress watches (bambino, etc.) At the end of the day, for around $300-$400 I prefer purchasing a watch that will bring me more joy like another Straton. So I just did!
MSRP for the 033 and 035 was ¥45,000 (in the ballpark of $425 US at current rates). I managed to pick up a nearly unused model for a fair bit less because the previous owner lost a friction pin in the bracelet and apparently never bothered to take it to a jeweler. ¥1,000 later and it was good as new.
thought that sarb033 was kinda vanilla, anyway bought a sarb033 used out of curiosity at US$125 right after the news about its discontinuity broke out - a smart move i reckon. It is magical. longer you have it, more you will love it. it looks beautiful on black leather strap (i share the same feeling as yours about its factory bracelet o..0”) and it helped me refrain from buying an Explorer 1 (“369” we called it) because it holds this space of my collection tightly and nicely. on the other hand, it seduced me to reach out for its bro sarb035, whose current ask is obviously too much... so i’m eyeing for good deal on used ones to come up... may meet you in the bids ^_^’
Got this a couple of years ago for $280. Size of 38mm is a bit small and style is very conservative, but does keep great time. Didn't realize this was sapphire as most seikos are mineral crystal.
I would pay twice as much for this watch that I just payed at the discontinued price , it blew me away the moment I opened the box , the watch and bracelet is phenomenal, I got the sarb 033
Just ordered the sarb035, think the cream will go better as a dressier and still sporty everyday watch, what was I wanted to go for. I payed an inflated price for it, but I think it will prove worthy of it in the future. Comparing this model to newer Seiko models really makes no sense, that would be the same as comparing a newer car model to an older but more classic model. You should expect the newer model to perform better but that does not mean that it equals the older model in aesthetics or overall design so that argument is a bit off in my opinion.
Another side note. It has been said that the discontinuation of the SARB line is to save the 6R15 for higher priced models. Which means paying $1,000 for the same movement as the SARB, only in a different case. And sure that case may have really great finishing, but so did the SARB. It will have sapphire crystal, so did the SARB. You can see where I’m going with this. I’m not trying to say that the higher priced models with the 6R15 aren’t worth it, not at all. But maybe the SARB033/5 was just a gem of a piece, that punches above its weight class because, well it had movement that was quite simply above its weight class. And Seiko can’t have people going “why would I pay $1k for a watch with the same movement as one that costs $350? So they had to kill the SARB. But guess what? People are still paying these inflated prices for a watch that yes cost only $350 not long ago (in US, in Canada it was always closer to $450) but it has the heart of a $1k watch, and that is what made it great in the first place. The killer movement and awesome finishing, great durability and versatility. I think it is easily worth $500, or dare I say it $600. CDN of course. And if anyone can show me another Seiko model that is 38mm (hell, 36mm preferably, but let’s be realistic), has the same specs and movement, quality of finishing, lume, equal amount of versatility for under $500 or even under $600? Well, all I have found so far is the SARB033. But I would love to hear of any others that fit the bill!
@@JustOneMoreWatch Yeah... Seiko is trying to market the 6R15 as a direct competitor to the ETA 2824 and I honestly don't think it cuts the mustard. At $300-$500 they were undercutting entry level Swiss watches and offering great value. At $500-$1000 I feel like the 6R15 is outdone by the 2824. I own a SARB033 and I love it, and I love the 6R15 movement. But I paid $318 for mine. I know it's not equivalent to a 2824 running in watches at twice the price.
It tough for me to buy any watch for more than a standard listing. Unless it’s vintage, or of a more rare breed. I love seiko, but there is a limit to what I’d pay. Great video, as always
The Seiko SNKL41 is a white dial Seiko 5 that could work as a "Baby SARB035." And the SNKL45 works as a great "Baby SARB033," except that it has a red seconds hand.
I bought the 035 and the 033 before they were discontinued. i dont really need them both but after changing straps Im finding it so difficult to decide which one I like the most . Im keeping them both so there .
Nice video of a nice watch. I personally wouldn't buy a watch at inflated prices. But some people will, look at some of the Rolex models going for stupid prices. Like the phrase goes, something is only worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
I'm never gonna sell mine. Despite of the bracelet, it's so much value for the money. I've recently serviced it for 150 bucks. There's nothing not to love about it.
Just the way I like a dial. Not too much writing on the dial. Just a nice clean design. Especially if I compare it a much more expensive watch like a Rolex Submariner, that has an overkill of text on the dial.
Wonderful review. It does come down to size I feel since the quality and style are very likely still worth the prices asked even while inflated at the moment. Thank you for reviewing this in the excellent manner that you have.
I ummm'd and ahhh'd for months about the black dial version when they originally launched. Slightly regret not pulling the trigger back then but at that 'inflated' price, my regrets float away...
do be aware that the Japanese retail on them was 45,000 yen when they were still available. I got mine for 30,000 over here at a shop that was trying to get rid of their old stock, but still the $500 for one isn't that expensive for what you get!
I still love the 033 and 035, but buying from Canada I've got to pay import taxes on top of the inflated prices. So it's just not for me. Which is a shame because at 38mm this is in the sweet spot.
Decisions, decisions ... should we or shouldn't we by it? "We can try to avoid making decisions by doing nothing, but even that is a decision." ~ Gary Collins
Just like the Alpinist, if you cross your fingers and toes and look at just the right time, Amazon (USA) will offer these new with Seiko warranty for $318.75, sold by Amazon.com (Alpinist sells for $356.75). More likely to see these in the mornings, every couple weeks or so. They seem to sell maybe 20-50 of these at a time and then go back to the 3rd party sellers with their more market driven prices. I got my SARB033 this way and it's my favorite watch. At that price, these are amazing value. I still can't believe these used to be sold that cheaply on the regular. That said, I probably wouldn't buy one for more than $400 today.
Someone mistook it for a Grand Seiko? Not surprising; my problem with Seiko dress watches is that they all look very similar, from the $100 quartz to the Grand Seikos. Some stick hands, some dauphin, usually stick markers, slight variations in size, slight variations in dial finish. From 5 feet away you can't tell what it is. I have one of these and I'm keeping it, but it's not the most exciting watch I own.
Got mine today, on Dec 14 2020. Amazon had the SARB035 listed at $414 and change. I spent basically all year trying to find a watch that would scratch the "SARB itch" with other watches...
"I guess I just didn't have enough beer on the night". Really made me laugh! Booze and watches are a bad (good) combination. It's cost me a lot of money. Luckily I don't suffer from buyers remorse! I find leaving watches in a basket when sober, makes it too easy to click "purchase" when pissed.
I recently bought the sarb033 and I’m impatienty waiting for the piece to arrive. I can’t want to put it on a leatherstrap and to give it some proper wristtime!
Just bought one 033 at an inflated price but you have to look at a different perspective and not just at the money and new offerings. You are buying a well made high specification horological timepiece mind you! Compare the specs and legacy first before you put your hammer down and under, mate.
The SARX’ are 40mm with the 6R15 but $700 and up. I have the 033 and love it and I am shopping for a 033 but I feel the prices will stabilize and possible drop a little.
Same thoughts I have when it comes to this watch now. At the lower price I would have pulled the trigger on the watch but I came in late to watches (this fall) and I decided it's better to just get an SKX0013K2 on sale. PS. I like the Presage line a lot but maybe next time they go on sale.
Don't buy the SARB033 or 035 - you're not missing out. I bought a SARB033 in Japan this year around March when the final retail stocks were selling out. I sold it in September with no regrets at all. What did I buy to replace it? I used the money from the sale to help me purchase a SARX055. So why wouldn't I recommend a SARB? Well, the finish is OK but nothing fancy. As shown, the bracelet is cheap and easily scratchable. I was attracted to the watch because of the movement but the 6R15 is nothing special: mine ran -10 seconds a day out of the box and gained 10 to 20 seconds a day when I was active, with active being walking 5 kms a day. The 6R15C is also noted to have performance issues. Once you realise the 6R15 movement is technically quite ordinary, it puts the whole thing into a better perspective. Also, don't believe for a moment that because they are JDM and "Made in Japan" that they are actually made in Japan - JD Anthony has shown they use Chinese parts and for the price they were charging, I would bet money they were made in Malaysia with final inspection by a Japanese QC technician. It's all Seiko in-house manufacture but still... But really, the thing is that Seiko releases watches constantly that you're going to find something from their ever changing range you will like. If you "missed out" on the SARB035 - consider a new SARY103, technically a little lower but aesthetically I think it blows the SARBs away.
Earthen Jadis Unfortunately, the SARXs and SARYs are no replacement for the 033/035 because they are much larger. If Seiko makes a new 033 with the same finishing as a SARX it'll be a massive hit, but until then we settle for the 033.
@@JonJonFtheW I anticipated this kind of response - "My wrist is thin so I can't wear anything over a 39mm". That's not true in most cases. Nobody is staring at you and your wrist from 30 cms away for an extended period of time and judging if it looks clownish or not. As a general rule, if the lugs do not overhang your wrist width, the watch is fine on you. So for someone with a 6.5 inch wrist, anything up to 41mm in diameter and 48mm lug tip to lug tip is fine. I'd even push that to 42mm as something you should at least consider if you're getting something sporty. If the lugs curve, that is a bonus. Unless you have very slim 6 inch or under wrists, you can wear a lot more watches than you are likely limiting yourself to.
The problem is if you want 38mm, there's nothing in Seiko's new offering's that will give you that size. For smaller wrists, 40mm really is too big for a dress watch.
This is hands down the best comment for this video, written by a man who doesn't talk shit but instead describe his experience. Maybe this watch would've been worth it if it was around 100$.
@@destiny2k6 Christ man my wrists aren't the biggest wrists in existence and I can calmly wear a watch up to 45mm in diameter for a dress watch, how small exactly are your wrists? o.O Another factor is the hair on your wrists as well, if you have small wrists and have no hair at all then they would appear thin as hell.
I will disagree with you. If you don't want to take the microbrand route because you fear that your watch will be worth nothing on the second hand market in a decade (which is likely and has put a cap on the prices I have paid on micro brand watches), Seiko is a sure bet. Also, you might have noticed but Seiko has started a very noticeable strategic repositioning and all the new models coming out are way way more expensive, a watch with a 6R15 movement is going to cost between $800-$1,000 (that is RRP) so my bet is that the SARBs are going to increase in value a bit more once the market has dried out. But that is a speculative gut feeling. The SARX, SARW lines offer more of less the same quality of watch but with a better bracelet and a transparent coating making the watch and bracelet more scratch resistant. But is that worth an extra $500 in terms of RRP? There are also some limited edition SARW/SARX priced at $1,500 on eBay if that means anything. Lastly, it seems that Seiko has solved the 6R15 issues with revision D, at least that is what people are saying but Seiko is keeping silent about it.
Loving the sarb 035 and got mine for 300€ new with stickers still on it. A great watch and rocking it. There are alternatives but I for example ain’t like the sarx hands so it is not an option, I think the sarb is sort of unique. Great review as usual, was fun to watch 👍🏻🙏🏻
Utku Burak Ozkan, you should actually 😁 my watch is from a user who bought his and didn’t liked it. It was maybe 2 weeks with him with all stickers on and he puts it into the market space, found it, for it 😁
Missed 035 for original price, but having it in the “plan” , despite the bracelet connection to the case it is a beauty! I looked at sarx043. It tries to be more “trendy” (for good or bad - depends on personal preferences) but bracelet das not communicate with the lugs either! 🙄. Sydney opera syndrome continues to the higher price level as well...
Hey mate! Sorry but this time I can’t agree with you! IMO the former MSRP was a real steal. The Sarx is a real nice watch but way bigger and much more expensive! Now the most of the Presage line watches came with a downgraded movement at a higher price 😩 I have the 33 & the 35 and I have no issues at all, both are running with +3 to +6 sec. 😍 Because of the bracelet: is this the original Sarb033 one or may be from the 35? Although the watches are the same, the end links/bracelet are slightly different! I wanted to keep one bracelet new - but unfortunately .... 😩😩😩
I feel for the money the tissot visodate is a better buy at $400. I preferred it even when the sarb033 was on ebay for $300. The visodate is probably the only tissot/hamilton/certina still being offered with the original 2836, not the powermatic 80.
I don't know why, but I just disassembled the jubilee on my 013 and turned it insideout. Do I have little arrows showing how to remove links on the outside of the bracelet now? Yes, yes I do.... but this reverse gives the bracelet a more angled and engineered feel. I can't wait for my hardlex to get all mucked up once the bracelet falls apart for being backwards!!!
These watches are 38 mm. Compare that to the newer Presage that is 41 mm or other Seiko automatics that are 42 mm. For some men with smaller wrists, it is worth paying the current price for the SARB 033 at 38 mm instead of a huge diameter that makes it look like you are wearing a tire on your wrist.
I recently sold mine, and honestly it's the watch I miss the most. I've sold Omega, I've sold Rolex ..... and I miss a Seiko ..... There I've said it.
I have a SARB033 and I will probably wear it in my coffin.
@@mrdisco99 I really shouldn't have sold it.
Casey good news is sometimes you can still catch them new under $400, and can still be had under $500
@Bob Smith I got a really good deal on a Datejust and needed a few extra hundred to get the deal done. Stupid really. It wasn't even an unusual Datejust.
mr bacchus I paid $500 CDN for mine and it came with a ColaReb strap and the bracelet still in plastic. Honestly worth it in my opinion, but it is the most expensive watch I’ve bought. Even if I paid $300, it still would be lol
This watch (033 anyway) was my High School graduation present, and it is an awesome watch. I hardly ever wear the thing however as I have worked with my hands in one form or another my entire life, and I did not feel comfortable having a $300 seemingly delicate watch in a construction environment, and I was tired at looking at the scratches of my Seiko 5 (Hardlex really doesn't have any more scratch resistance than a Timex mineral crystal in my experience). I have since bought a quartz Seiko SGG729, a 38mm (wears even smaller than the 033) titanium watch with a sapphire crystal, 100mm water resistance, and a navy blue sunburst dial. It has everything I will ever need in a watch, dressy enough to go with a suit, tough enough to wear to work, small enough to get my hands in hard to reach places, and affordable enough so that I don't mind using it for all of these things. If I was only allowed to have one watch it would be the SGG729, I would want more but I could easily settle. I know this was a long and difficult to read comment so I thank you for reading the ravings of madman who loves watches.
I just bought a SARB035 last week and love it. As a matter of fact it's on my wrist right now. It's Saturday morning here in sunny Arizona, USA and I'm going to meet my three kids for coffee.
Just realized I got the idea from you, when I watched this video last year, to put my SARB035 on a cream perlon strap. I been rocking it all summer. Mine didn't cute match but still love it. Been binging your videos the last few days. Keep it up. Thanks man.
I picked up my SARB035 about a week before the discontinued leak came out. This is one of my favorite watches. The finishing is better than most watches under $1000. I had to get a clasp extension to get it to fit on my large wrists, and it added 4 micro adjustments, thankfully it was cheaper than an extra link. I think these are the best affordable alternatives to the Aqua Terra or the Explorer I.
I own a SARB033 and absolutely love it! Purchased it Feb 2018 at around $400AUD before the prices inflated and it's been my daily wearer ever since. Extreme versatility, gorgeous case proportions, and an open caseback to admire everytime I put it on in the morning. It is an absolutely wonderful daily companion, I really cannot see myself ever selling it. Cheers from Brisbane!
I have this watch and the Alpinist. I paid the inflated prices for both of them and love them. They’re not going anywhere.
Ditto. Except I just bought the 033.
Trex100 . I wrestled with getting one of those too but decided on the SARX039. All are awesome watches.
I absolutely love my SARBs. I have the 033 (black dial), 065 (Cocktail Time) and the 017 (Alpinist), and while they all share the same rock solid 6r15 movement, each have their own unique character. If the style calls to you, my advice is don't let the past cloud the present... they will never be $300 again, and you don't want to look back on today and regret not picking it up back 'when it was only $460'. Another great review!
They were $318 on amazon on Dec 2. Just saying.
My first sarb was thr alpinist, got it 2 years ago and loved it. I just got thw 033 from a seller in Japan. Such a beauty.
Bought a used SARB033 in Japan for 33,800 JPY (through Mercari). The watch is as good as new, almost 0 scratches anywhere. I was quite surprised. For the price I paid, there's no argument against the purchase. Very happy with it!
I love seeing a well “loved” watch. Makes it look 10x better IMO.
Agreed!! Watches were meant to be worn!
Mate, I've had a similar experience with the 6R15s. I know it's a respected movement. Mine ran at +5 out od the box but within a few weeks went down to -5. Comparatively, I have 3 other watches with 4R35 movements that operate at +1,+2 and +5 secs per day. I prefer watches to run fast and not slow, and I'm satisfied with anything running within +10.
I love my SARB033! Thanks for making this video, picked my up about 3 months ago (pre-owned) for $350
Sarb035 I have it and it's a great piece. I love it. Its my seiko DateJust 😋
I’m personally glad I picked up the black 033, hardly worn, and not got gouged for it. It stopped me looking at the Rolex Explorer I as I felt it fulfilled that role. I wear it on a nice leather strap mostly too ;)
SARB's are legendary watches. Easily still worth the inflated costs. Pure class from Seiko
"Hadn't had enough beer on the night"....priceless. You always keep me entertained Jody.
I picked up my SARB033 pre owned, but like new, with the bracelet still in the plastic and a ColaReb strap for... $500CDN. I am aware that there are higher end pieces that are only a little bit more than what I paid, but everything seems to be 40-41mm!! 38 is my absolute max unless it’s a diver and I sold my SKX for that reason. The SARB033 fits me PERFECTLY. And while I may one day realize that I could have had better for my money... well... so be it. But for now I couldn’t be happier and I am wearing this piece every day with a smile!
Hey! I agree with you about the inflated prices. This being said, as a proud owner of a 6 inch wrists, there is nothing quite like it, as newer JDM models are bigger... Maybe the SNKL41, but it's definitely not in the same league. So if you throw wrist size into scale, it still might be worth it. IMHO, of course ;) Cheers!
@@JustOneMoreWatch I get that. It's part of the game :) I enjoyed your review nonetheless! Pssss: check out the SJE073 ;) (completely not in the same price bracket!)
I couldn’t agree more! I looked and looked and couldn’t find a model anything like the SARB033 or really any that were 38mm. I paid $500CDN for my SARB033 with the bracelet still in plastic and with a ColaReb strap. Yes I overpaid (but to be fair the prices in Canada haven’t ever been in the $300 range new when you include taxes shipping and import duties) but in my opinion the watch doesn’t under deliver. It has all of the same features (aside from AR which I am happy to live without the micro-scratches that come with an outer coating) as similar priced entry level Swiss pieces, and while I’ll admit the ETA 2824 is a somewhat nicer/more interesting looking mov’t, my SARB’s 6R15 outperforms the 2824 (-2s/d vs -6s/d) inside the Mido Baroncelli a friend of mine gave to me. So I can at least say that in my experience, the 6R15 at least performs comparably to an ETA 2824. So with that said, what else does a ~$500 entry level Swiss piece have that the SARB033 doesn’t? I’ll tell you one thing though: Here in Canada, some of the prices on eBay.ca have climbed as high as $1,200 and beyond. Would I pay that much for a SARB033? No. Would I sell mine, and turn a $700 profit if you offered me $1200 tomorrow? Not a chance. I can make more money. This watch is discontinued. None more will be made. But I own one, and that is pretty cool 😎
I got a used one for $350AUD. Didn't run to specs, so a retired watchmaker dismantled the movement and overhauled it for $100. Said it was very dry inside, not well oiled which isn't uncommon with mass produced spring movements. Now it runs almost as well as my quartz.
Wwoooohhhooooo!
I’m so happy my watch was compared to the Opera House! Great work Jody! Pretty chuffed with the fact that we have the same sized wrists!
Thanks again Joe! I'll post it home on Monday mate!
Thanks for lending it in Joe 👍
I bought the Sarb035 a month ago when it was on sale on Amazon. It’s been my daily watch ever since. I’m glad I bought it even if it is at an inflated price.
how much you paid for ?
It's on amazon right now for $390. Grab it while it lasts. It's being sold by amazon too so it comes with the seiko warranty and free 2 day prime shipping. Guaranteed to sell out soon.
I think Orient Star (Black SAF02002B0 or White SAF02004W0) gives you a better value for price at this point. It's nearly half of the price (250-300 dollars), same looks, with power reserve. It's just too much at this point, this also goes for Alpinist. I'd prefer buying the Orient Star more.
Nice form factor, pretty to be sure, but they don't appear to have any lume at all. That makes them useless for nighttime use, and thus EDC. Excellent for a dress watch though!
The orient star classic is a gorgeous watch, but for all around wear it is sarb in a landslide. Lack of sapphire and lume are the killers. I voted with my wallet a couple of years ago and went sarb035. It might be my most worn watch.
I own the Orient Star Classic and love it. If the SARB033/035 hadn’t gone up in price I would’ve gotten one, but my Orient is filling that gap nicely, regardless of having no lume.
Hello, any links for orient white dial for these prices please? Thank you in advance.
@@panagiotisdrosos2865 you should check CreationWatches :)
Very cool video! A well-worn and loved watch is the most beautiful finish you can get imo. As of Jan. 2020, SARB033/035 are selling used for $600-$700 USD. The new SARX033/035 (that are similar) start new around $700.
I bought one, too (the 033). I got lucky and found some on Amazon for $357 (a couple of weeks ago). The price jumped since and I'm so glad I pulled the trigger when I did. I only learned about the SARBs in April. Not sure why Seiko decided to discontinue these in 2018 as they have such cult following. Thanks to #jomw I am a proud & happy owner of a 033. This watch is beautiful.
They're on sale now on Amazon US for $319. Probably doesn't get much better than that!
found mine at a pawn shop for 84 bucks! so happy
Othon Martinez damn, nice find
I was fortunate enough to buy both when they were around $300, but not sure I would buy one at almost $500. I do have small wrists, so these watches fit me perfectly. They are solidly built and in time will probably continue to increase in price. So, even if you buy one now, you'll likely be able to get your money out of it if you want to sell it later. As you noticed, it is a strap monster. The black strap and cream dial are an elegant combination.
Discontinuing of SARB033/035 looks as marketing strategy to separate in price 4R and 6R movements, making 6R series more luxurious choice above 500 $. Therefore hard to expect new replacement to appear from Seiko in the same price range with the same level of finishing. I agree what Orient Star may give an alternative for below 500 $ level (also can be within Seiko strategy).
Alpinist, Cocktail time, Tuna and this one are my perfect four watch collection.
Yes you should, I got both the SARB033 and SARB035 (in fact wearing my SARB035 now). They are my favourite rotations, and I have more expensive - supposedly better - watches but I must say SARBs punch well above their price. Got my 033 over 2 years ago for about C$400, and my 035 more recently at the current price of C$600 all in of course. Are they worth it? Hell yes. Should I have got them at the same time instead? Hell yes to that too but that doesn’t change my decision. When I recently got my 035 even my wife was like “What? Another watch? Damn that’s a CLEAN dial! I like it!”
My wife and I are both heavily involved, personally and professionally, in the arts; never knew you worked at the Sydney opera house! I would love to visit one day; I'll give you a shoutout if we're ever in the area!
Btw, I got my father a SARB033 when it was still in production. It is in about the same condition haha. He LOVES it and he isn't a "watch guy." If I were to get one of these nowadays, though, I would only get an Alpinist. At these prices, there are so many better value options than the SARBs.
On and off since 2006. 😍😍😍 I'm totally in love with the place. Please look me up if you visit!
Picked up a SARB035 in 2023 and love it. I like a lot of watches but this one sings to me so I don't see myself selling it until I can get into a Grand Seiko Snowflake.
Agree that the OEM bracelet is not good so I swap between a plain brown leather strap and an Uncle Seiko Continental bracelet.
I have a SARB033 as an everyday alternative for my GS SBGA127 and I must say that this watch has a really high value for its price.
The 33 arrived today. Overall, the hype about this being a simple, classic, well-crafted, beautiful watch is true and the 38mm is a great size, even on my 7in wrist. In video and photos, the stock bracelet also looks well-crafted, of solid metal, and arguably decent design, but after actually holding it, the metal is very light and almost feels cheap- I can understand why so many just want the watch and are quick to swap out the bracelet. And it’s clear why the reviewer called it an “after-thought.” Just my opinion. I paid $457US, with Prime, new from Amazon - the range is now 450-950. If the price drops in the next few weeks I’ll try to get one for cheaper and return this one. Or maybe I’ll be happy I got it for under 500 and just keep it.
My next SARB! Got the 033 and 017 in the stable. Love the SARB series.
Buy it the watch is phenomenal
Great review and discussion Jody. I agree, at the MSRP it was a great value watch...but not so much now. Thank you Joe for sending this in :)
Yes, buy the 035. Classic colour, true winner.
Picked up one on eBay in the U.K. for around £200 after watching J. Anthony's rave review. A week later his broke and found some Chinese components in it, just as my new purchase arrived. At first I was disappointed as I thought it was too small and I'm more used to 40-42 same size wrist as yourself. Having said that I love it and even took it on holiday as an evening watch. Caught a guy wearing a Navitimer oggling it, he might have thought it was a GS too.
I would swap it for a SARX, especially the one with blue hands and a bit bigger at 40mm from memory. Keep thinking about flipping it but something holds me back (the inflated price perhaps?). I was going to put it on a Colareb tan suede but after the fashion show I think I prefer the bracelet. Still hovering over the Cadisen diamond and might put the suede on that. Great review.
I picked one up on an amazon sale for $318 usd. Immediately put it on a nice leather strap. What a lovely watch for the price. I wish Seiko continued to make watches around the 38mm range.
I paid the over the odds price 4 months ago for the black version. Don't regret it, it's never off my wrist. In terms of smackaroonies per wear it's way ahead of anything else I own.
Sometimes it's nice to see a review of a well used watch. Love my Sarb035 but it was a slow burn for me. I initially was unimpressed thinking it small and plain, it took wearing it a bit to fully appreciate. Good review, you brought up some details I don't think I ever really noticed.
Superb well informed review! Though I don’t agree with the final conclusion - buy the inflated price - it was underpriced by several hundred dollars from the start! It’s the best example of a watch lover’s watch ever.
Ahhhh, you should find my "I Was Wrong About The Seiko SARB" video. I changed my mind and bought one! 😂
I am currently wearing a Seiko SNXS73 which has a silver sunburst dial, they do a blue dial and a dark gray/black . I see this as a great alternative for the current price of a sarb you could get every SNXS dial colour option. A few great quality straps would fit within the funds needed although the 19mm lugs can limit this, you can push some 20mm straps on but makes removal harder. The stock bracelet has a retro charm about it but it’s an acquired taste, most would want to throw it back in the box and never look at it again
Every so often you can get these new on Amazon for $318.00 - they go quick though (you basically have an hour). If you set a Camelcamelcamel.com price watch, you get an email right when the price appears.
These are $318 on amazon right now. As of 12.02.18, 9:48 pst - this includes the 033.
I just picked mine up for $318. After I did, the price shot up to $450. Really lucked out. Stoked! @@ahund562
I'll have to admit that I used to own the SARB033 and SARB035 but ended up selling the SARB035 because the dial got a bit boring eventually for me and the dial on the SARB033 didn't impress me. I also used to own the SARB017 but sold it because I acquired the rare SARB013. I even ended up selling the SARB013 to put my money elsewhere. Recently I was able to snag a SARB070 on the second hand market with the gold colored bezel polished back to stainless steel and am excited for it to come in. The SARB070 has gold indices as opposed to the silver indices on the SARB035. These watches are great but sometimes get washed out by other watches that are more "fun." This SARB035 and the SARB033 are definitely more conservative pieces. I think I'll fall in love with the SARB line again.
I have a little SNKM47, which I like to call my "SARB033 on a budget" and I love it. Wouldn't mind upgrading it to the 033 one day though.
These watches were seriously good value when you could buy them in the Japanese shops. I brought one last year from Bic Camera in Hiroshima for $240US. Amazing value at that price
Wow! No brainer at that price! That's as good a price as they've ever been available anywhere in the world I believe.
@@manzahalem8845 actually at the time I saw it around that price in quite a few places in Japan. You are always going to get better pieces when you are actually in the stores in Japan than the on line sites. And unfortunately I have found that most of these local Japanese shops aren't normally that keen to deliver overseas so it is hard to access these great prices unless you are there
Yep, that last Seiko / Monkeyswag combo just has to the THE everyday wearer look for me and the great thing is that there's plenty of ways to get it at whatever price point fits your wallet. Great content - thank you.
Wearing mine now. Wouldn't swap it for any in production watch I can think of.
I actually sold my SARB035 after a few months. I already owned some cheaper dress watches (bambino, etc.) At the end of the day, for around $300-$400 I prefer purchasing a watch
that will bring me more joy like another Straton. So I just did!
MSRP for the 033 and 035 was ¥45,000 (in the ballpark of $425 US at current rates). I managed to pick up a nearly unused model for a fair bit less because the previous owner lost a friction pin in the bracelet and apparently never bothered to take it to a jeweler. ¥1,000 later and it was good as new.
thought that sarb033 was kinda vanilla, anyway bought a sarb033 used out of curiosity at US$125 right after the news about its discontinuity broke out - a smart move i reckon. It is magical. longer you have it, more you will love it. it looks beautiful on black leather strap (i share the same feeling as yours about its factory bracelet o..0”) and it helped me refrain from buying an Explorer 1 (“369” we called it) because it holds this space of my collection tightly and nicely.
on the other hand, it seduced me to reach out for its bro sarb035, whose current ask is obviously too much... so i’m eyeing for good deal on used ones to come up... may meet you in the bids ^_^’
Got this a couple of years ago for $280. Size of 38mm is a bit small and style is very conservative, but does keep great time. Didn't realize this was sapphire as most seikos are mineral crystal.
I would pay twice as much for this watch that I just payed at the discontinued price , it blew me away the moment I opened the box , the watch and bracelet is phenomenal, I got the sarb 033
Just ordered the sarb035, think the cream will go better as a dressier and still sporty everyday watch, what was I wanted to go for. I payed an inflated price for it, but I think it will prove worthy of it in the future. Comparing this model to newer Seiko models really makes no sense, that would be the same as comparing a newer car model to an older but more classic model. You should expect the newer model to perform better but that does not mean that it equals the older model in aesthetics or overall design so that argument is a bit off in my opinion.
I bought a SARX043 and SARB033, so comparison is valid. Same movement, similar prices, but one can be bought easily, and one has been discontinued.
@@JustOneMoreWatch case size difference tho.
Another side note. It has been said that the discontinuation of the SARB line is to save the 6R15 for higher priced models. Which means paying $1,000 for the same movement as the SARB, only in a different case. And sure that case may have really great finishing, but so did the SARB. It will have sapphire crystal, so did the SARB. You can see where I’m going with this. I’m not trying to say that the higher priced models with the 6R15 aren’t worth it, not at all. But maybe the SARB033/5 was just a gem of a piece, that punches above its weight class because, well it had movement that was quite simply above its weight class. And Seiko can’t have people going “why would I pay $1k for a watch with the same movement as one that costs $350? So they had to kill the SARB. But guess what? People are still paying these inflated prices for a watch that yes cost only $350 not long ago (in US, in Canada it was always closer to $450) but it has the heart of a $1k watch, and that is what made it great in the first place. The killer movement and awesome finishing, great durability and versatility. I think it is easily worth $500, or dare I say it $600. CDN of course. And if anyone can show me another Seiko model that is 38mm (hell, 36mm preferably, but let’s be realistic), has the same specs and movement, quality of finishing, lume, equal amount of versatility for under $500 or even under $600? Well, all I have found so far is the SARB033. But I would love to hear of any others that fit the bill!
What about a Glycine Combat 6? 36mm and ETA2824 for under $400.
@@JustOneMoreWatch Yeah... Seiko is trying to market the 6R15 as a direct competitor to the ETA 2824 and I honestly don't think it cuts the mustard. At $300-$500 they were undercutting entry level Swiss watches and offering great value. At $500-$1000 I feel like the 6R15 is outdone by the 2824. I own a SARB033 and I love it, and I love the 6R15 movement. But I paid $318 for mine. I know it's not equivalent to a 2824 running in watches at twice the price.
It tough for me to buy any watch for more than a standard listing. Unless it’s vintage, or of a more rare breed. I love seiko, but there is a limit to what I’d pay. Great video, as always
The Seiko SNKL41 is a white dial Seiko 5 that could work as a "Baby SARB035." And the SNKL45 works as a great "Baby SARB033," except that it has a red seconds hand.
I have both. Thinking of whether to upgrade. Bracelet is a weak spot for those.
I bought my SARB033 2 years ago in Japan for around 260 bucks. It still looks great and runs +2/-2 a day. Best buy ever!
I bought the 035 and the 033 before they were discontinued. i dont really need them both but after changing straps Im finding it so difficult to decide which one I like the most . Im keeping them both so there .
Nice video of a nice watch. I personally wouldn't buy a watch at inflated prices. But some people will, look at some of the Rolex models going for stupid prices. Like the phrase goes, something is only worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
I'm never gonna sell mine. Despite of the bracelet, it's so much value for the money. I've recently serviced it for 150 bucks. There's nothing not to love about it.
I own both. Best watches for the money hands down.
I have the 033, but I kind of wish I had got the 035. The White is just so good looking.
Just the way I like a dial. Not too much writing on the dial. Just a nice clean design. Especially if I compare it a much more expensive watch like a Rolex Submariner, that has an overkill of text on the dial.
Wonderful review. It does come down to size I feel since the quality and style are very likely still worth the prices asked even while inflated at the moment. Thank you for reviewing this in the excellent manner that you have.
I ummm'd and ahhh'd for months about the black dial version when they originally launched. Slightly regret not pulling the trigger back then but at that 'inflated' price, my regrets float away...
do be aware that the Japanese retail on them was 45,000 yen when they were still available. I got mine for 30,000 over here at a shop that was trying to get rid of their old stock, but still the $500 for one isn't that expensive for what you get!
I still love the 033 and 035, but buying from Canada I've got to pay import taxes on top of the inflated prices. So it's just not for me.
Which is a shame because at 38mm this is in the sweet spot.
Decisions, decisions ... should we or shouldn't we by it?
"We can try to avoid making decisions by doing nothing, but even that is a decision." ~ Gary Collins
I'm not a fan of the needle-like second hand, which is why I held out for the SARX035 (baby GS)
Better watch in every respect and well worth the few bucks more
@Motor City Cobra fair enough. I think seiko would do better listening to you re sizing (across many of their lines). Cheers
@Motor City Cobra Agreed: around 38 mm would've been ideal!
I think it suits good in respect to the dauphine hands.
Just like the Alpinist, if you cross your fingers and toes and look at just the right time, Amazon (USA) will offer these new with Seiko warranty for $318.75, sold by Amazon.com (Alpinist sells for $356.75). More likely to see these in the mornings, every couple weeks or so. They seem to sell maybe 20-50 of these at a time and then go back to the 3rd party sellers with their more market driven prices. I got my SARB033 this way and it's my favorite watch.
At that price, these are amazing value. I still can't believe these used to be sold that cheaply on the regular. That said, I probably wouldn't buy one for more than $400 today.
that rust brown strap made it look amazing
I have a sarb033, wish I had a sarx, tho. Slightly larger and more of a dress watch, although they are pretty similar in looks and ticks
Someone mistook it for a Grand Seiko? Not surprising; my problem with Seiko dress watches is that they all look very similar, from the $100 quartz to the Grand Seikos. Some stick hands, some dauphin, usually stick markers, slight variations in size, slight variations in dial finish.
From 5 feet away you can't tell what it is.
I have one of these and I'm keeping it, but it's not the most exciting watch I own.
You are incredibly watchable mate, pun intended. Love your work.
The only 6R I have is currently running -2.5 a day. Not too shabby. Watch is only a year old, so time will tell.
I would rather go for a vintage Hi-Beat King Seiko for the price.
Edit: oh and great video and review.
If im not wrong though the vintage seiko Hi-beat will cost a lot more to service as the parts are obsolete
vintage Hi-Beat King Seiko for the price?
@@hospitalcleaner hi end seikos are damn expensive to service, if you think spring drive wasn't cheap, wait till yours break down
I wear mine everyday on either a leather or canvas strap. I am in love with it.
Got mine today, on Dec 14 2020. Amazon had the SARB035 listed at $414 and change. I spent basically all year trying to find a watch that would scratch the "SARB itch" with other watches...
Great watch and a great review. I always look forward to your content!
"I guess I just didn't have enough beer on the night". Really made me laugh! Booze and watches are a bad (good) combination. It's cost me a lot of money. Luckily I don't suffer from buyers remorse!
I find leaving watches in a basket when sober, makes it too easy to click "purchase" when pissed.
So glad I’m not the only one who has this issue. No regrets, but yikes, even less self-control after a little ethanol.
I recently bought the sarb033 and I’m impatienty waiting for the piece to arrive. I can’t want to put it on a leatherstrap and to give it some proper wristtime!
Just bought one 033 at an inflated price but you have to look at a different perspective and not just at the money and new offerings. You are buying a well made high specification horological timepiece mind you! Compare the specs and legacy first before you put your hammer down and under, mate.
The SARX’ are 40mm with the 6R15 but $700 and up. I have the 033 and love it and I am shopping for a 033 but I feel the prices will stabilize and possible drop a little.
Same thoughts I have when it comes to this watch now. At the lower price I would have pulled the trigger on the watch but I came in late to watches (this fall) and I decided it's better to just get an SKX0013K2 on sale.
PS. I like the Presage line a lot but maybe next time they go on sale.
How did that work out? I am deciding between the SKX013 ($249) and the SARB033 ($499). I am leaning Sarb and want to be convinced to get the 013!
Don't buy the SARB033 or 035 - you're not missing out.
I bought a SARB033 in Japan this year around March when the final retail stocks were selling out. I sold it in September with no regrets at all. What did I buy to replace it? I used the money from the sale to help me purchase a SARX055. So why wouldn't I recommend a SARB? Well, the finish is OK but nothing fancy. As shown, the bracelet is cheap and easily scratchable. I was attracted to the watch because of the movement but the 6R15 is nothing special: mine ran -10 seconds a day out of the box and gained 10 to 20 seconds a day when I was active, with active being walking 5 kms a day. The 6R15C is also noted to have performance issues. Once you realise the 6R15 movement is technically quite ordinary, it puts the whole thing into a better perspective. Also, don't believe for a moment that because they are JDM and "Made in Japan" that they are actually made in Japan - JD Anthony has shown they use Chinese parts and for the price they were charging, I would bet money they were made in Malaysia with final inspection by a Japanese QC technician. It's all Seiko in-house manufacture but still...
But really, the thing is that Seiko releases watches constantly that you're going to find something from their ever changing range you will like. If you "missed out" on the SARB035 - consider a new SARY103, technically a little lower but aesthetically I think it blows the SARBs away.
Earthen Jadis Unfortunately, the SARXs and SARYs are no replacement for the 033/035 because they are much larger. If Seiko makes a new 033 with the same finishing as a SARX it'll be a massive hit, but until then we settle for the 033.
@@JonJonFtheW I anticipated this kind of response - "My wrist is thin so I can't wear anything over a 39mm". That's not true in most cases. Nobody is staring at you and your wrist from 30 cms away for an extended period of time and judging if it looks clownish or not. As a general rule, if the lugs do not overhang your wrist width, the watch is fine on you. So for someone with a 6.5 inch wrist, anything up to 41mm in diameter and 48mm lug tip to lug tip is fine. I'd even push that to 42mm as something you should at least consider if you're getting something sporty. If the lugs curve, that is a bonus. Unless you have very slim 6 inch or under wrists, you can wear a lot more watches than you are likely limiting yourself to.
The problem is if you want 38mm, there's nothing in Seiko's new offering's that will give you that size. For smaller wrists, 40mm really is too big for a dress watch.
This is hands down the best comment for this video, written by a man who doesn't talk shit but instead describe his experience. Maybe this watch would've been worth it if it was around 100$.
@@destiny2k6 Christ man my wrists aren't the biggest wrists in existence and I can calmly wear a watch up to 45mm in diameter for a dress watch, how small exactly are your wrists? o.O Another factor is the hair on your wrists as well, if you have small wrists and have no hair at all then they would appear thin as hell.
Interestingly, at release time, this model's RPP was 500USD I believe, though.
love mine! changed the bracelet to a brown leather... gamechanger
I will disagree with you. If you don't want to take the microbrand route because you fear that your watch will be worth nothing on the second hand market in a decade (which is likely and has put a cap on the prices I have paid on micro brand watches), Seiko is a sure bet.
Also, you might have noticed but Seiko has started a very noticeable strategic repositioning and all the new models coming out are way way more expensive, a watch with a 6R15 movement is going to cost between $800-$1,000 (that is RRP) so my bet is that the SARBs are going to increase in value a bit more once the market has dried out. But that is a speculative gut feeling.
The SARX, SARW lines offer more of less the same quality of watch but with a better bracelet and a transparent coating making the watch and bracelet more scratch resistant. But is that worth an extra $500 in terms of RRP? There are also some limited edition SARW/SARX priced at $1,500 on eBay if that means anything.
Lastly, it seems that Seiko has solved the 6R15 issues with revision D, at least that is what people are saying but Seiko is keeping silent about it.
Loving the sarb 035 and got mine for 300€ new with stickers still on it. A great watch and rocking it. There are alternatives but I for example ain’t like the sarx hands so it is not an option, I think the sarb is sort of unique.
Great review as usual, was fun to watch 👍🏻🙏🏻
from where did you buy from that price?
Utku Burak Ozkan from the german Watch Forum, the “Uhrforum” market space. I was lucky I guess though
@@mb-watches is it second hand? Since I also live in Vienna, it would be ideal for me to buy from there hahaha.
Utku Burak Ozkan, you should actually 😁 my watch is from a user who bought his and didn’t liked it. It was maybe 2 weeks with him with all stickers on and he puts it into the market space, found it, for it 😁
Missed 035 for original price, but having it in the “plan” , despite the bracelet connection to the case it is a beauty!
I looked at sarx043. It tries to be more “trendy” (for good or bad - depends on personal preferences) but bracelet das not communicate with the lugs either! 🙄. Sydney opera syndrome continues to the higher price level as well...
anyone else here in 2020 buying new on amazon for $350? Waiting for the hype to subside is always the best move.
Hammen Cheese any link? Can’t find at this price
I have both the 033 and the 035 and they are great. Mine loses about 6-8 servings per day. They are strap monsters.
Hey mate! Sorry but this time I can’t agree with you! IMO the former MSRP was a real steal. The Sarx is a real nice watch but way bigger and much more expensive! Now the most of the Presage line watches came with a downgraded movement at a higher price 😩 I have the 33 & the 35 and I have no issues at all, both are running with +3 to +6 sec. 😍 Because of the bracelet: is this the original Sarb033 one or may be from the 35? Although the watches are the same, the end links/bracelet are slightly different! I wanted to keep one bracelet new - but unfortunately .... 😩😩😩
I feel for the money the tissot visodate is a better buy at $400. I preferred it even when the sarb033 was on ebay for $300. The visodate is probably the only tissot/hamilton/certina still being offered with the original 2836, not the powermatic 80.
I don't know why, but I just disassembled the jubilee on my 013 and turned it insideout. Do I have little arrows showing how to remove links on the outside of the bracelet now? Yes, yes I do.... but this reverse gives the bracelet a more angled and engineered feel. I can't wait for my hardlex to get all mucked up once the bracelet falls apart for being backwards!!!
Wow. That's out of left field for sure! :)
@@TimedSquare Haha, indeed! I'll call it my free Seiko mod! :D
Couldn't afford the SARB so I got the SARY. It's great value and a real strap monster. You should review one!
I was looking at prices 2 years ago and came across a retailer letting them go for £200, in the market for one now and kicking myself.
Glad to see that perlon. I've got a few like it that I love on this watch.
I like the watch however like most people I couldn't pay the inflated price
Good solid review as always