Mentoring Marisa: Understanding Exposure
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Welcome to part 1 of our new series where I will coach and mentor Marisa Roper on her journey to become a better photographer. In this session, we discuss what is commonly known as the Exposure Triangle. Understanding how exposure is achieved using ISO, Shutter Speed, and f-Stop.
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We all love to watch Marisa and we learn about photography from you, a good combination that has no equal. Thanks Marisa and Daniel
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Enjoy and learn from you Daniel, but I have to admit. I did click on this video just to see Marisa at work. Marisa is just a joy to watch working. She actually is part of the process and not just a prop like some models. Great personality and evervescent. Adds a brightness to any video she is in. Of other models you've worked with I'd say Paulina comes in a tad behind Marisa. Great project idea teaching like this. Solid job on teaching in a way she can learn and learn hands on. Not saying I'm a bit older, but I remember when ISO was ASA/DIN. LOL. Nice trick on counting the clicks for making aperture/shutter changes.
Thanks 😊 Marisa is an amazing woman and very talented
Marisa, you are a sweetheart, gorgeous little beauty, and I really like your dress ! Daniel, even if I know all about exposure, it's still always a pleasure to watch your videos and your energy !
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I like the concept of this video and look forward to watching more of them.
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Great teaching. And love to watch beautiful Marissa.
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Cool, I can learn along with Marisa, that makes us classmates! Truly, I get a lot from your videos.
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This is fun. It's great to see Marisa's reactions to learning about photography. It's a reminder of how I felt in the beginning: confused, overwhelmed, with flashes of understanding. I still feel that way after many years of shooting, which is why I keep watching these videos. There's always more to learn.
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This was awesome.Thanks so much. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.
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This was good. I had to describe all this to a friend a few weeks back. It was so long since I thought of it I struggled to think of all the stuff I do without thinking.. So this is good. Thanks..
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Very useful, looking forward
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This is going to be a great series! You are a heck of a teacher.
Since you can set a maximum allowed ISO for (Manual Mode + Auto ISO) I almost ALWAYS use Auto-ISO because of the 3 points of the Exposure Triangle: (1) I almost always care exactly what the aperture is for depth of field (in focus) reasons, (2) I almost always want a specific shutter speed to reduce motion blur when hand-holding the camera or want a deliberate amount of motion, and (3) I don't really care what the ISO is as long as it is below the maximum allowed value that I have set.
I actually find the ISO to be the LEAST damaging of the Exposure Triangle since a wonky aperture will put things out of focus and a wonky shutter speed will allow for blur. Both of those problems will result in a photo that is entirely unusable. At least a photo with higher ISO is still usable, albeit with the possibility of slightly more noise.
And from a purely creative standpoint, both Aperture and Shutter Speed can be part of DELIBERATE creative choices, whereas ISO is just along for the exposure ride and not often part of creative choices.
I am going to bet that in the end that will be Marisa's favorite mode because she (1) already mentioned liking Seth's deliberate blurring so she will want to control Shutter Speed and (2) almost everyone under the sun starts out wanting blurry backgrounds so Marisa will want control over the aperture.
Only time will tell!
You make some really good points
Yes Daniel, when at an air show that have aircraft with propellers performing, having the camera in shutter priority will ensure that you don't capture aircraft at 2000 feet with propellers that aren't moving.
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After Daniel's training Marisa will become a Canon, Nikon and Sony ambassador at the same time.
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great video, it is so good to see somebody learning from an amazing tutor, Marisa genuinely looks interested, so nice to see :)
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I've been binge watching your videos on lighting and portraiture. Thank you for passing on your knowledge sir.
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You & me both: I must have seen hundreds over the last few years.
Great concept for this video! Its true, many Talent somehow find themselves learning a lot while on the job making a smoother transition into a new career. Many models(male & female) end up as a Photographer, MakeUp Artist, Art Director or Agents. Marisa has a great Teacher in Daniel Norton!
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Great video - well worth watching. You were good too, Daniel :-)
Seriously, well done. I'm going to share this with a few people.
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It's interesting to see someone learn these things and see them in action the first time. (I remember the day I bought my first non-crap camera, which was a Nikon F2... The way things would snap into focus, the sound of the shutter, the first time someone talked to me about "Kelvin", etc.. All were the start of being more enlightened about photography, so this brings back some of those memories.) Have fun! :)
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I have never used shutter priority, tbh. If I want a fixed shutter speed I am likely to pick manual mode.
Great idea for a series - looking forward to watching Marissa learn! I think this format - with you actually giving a practical lesson - is hugely underutilised, and will be really helpful to a lot of people. Can't wait til you blow her mind with how flash exposure works. :D
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I use shutter priority all the time at car meets :)
another excellent idea for a series daniel.what i have found when teaching newcomers to photography, is understanding natural f-stops on the aperture.the iso and to a lesser extent,the shutter speed are relatively straightforward, either halving or doubling values.it becomes a little more confusing when talking aperture values and trying to explain what the different steps between stops are 4 -5.6 -8 -11 -16 etc..maybe a wee explanation of this might be helpful.i know you started covering this with using the 3 clicks to count each stop,on 1/3 stop increments.
The important part really is it there is an understanding of the balance in my opinion
Wonderful to see Marisa expanding her career options! Let's face it, there are many women who would prefer to be photographed by women. I won't try to mansplain it. :)
I can’t say I’ve ever actually had somebody express a preference in gender for photographer, but I suppose
@@DanielNortonPhotographer Fair enough, and I don't think it is a universal preference, however; I have noticed some "making of" videos of "Wonder Woman" for example, directed by Patti Jenkins and having a fairly large female presence in the production, that people expressed a more relaxed and collegiate environment. At the risk of mansplaining, there is a different energy dynamic at work, especially with something as close up and personal as portraiture.
There is also something to be said for having the "male gaze" at work when you want that kind of sizzle in your advertising or promotional head-shots (which is of course just advertising). Men are not completely superfluous (yet). :)
I love this. Even though I (hopefully) know this stuff I watched the whole video cuz you guys rock. 😁
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As a fuji user, we don’t have any of these P mode, Aperture shutter speed priorities. We just set either Aperture SS or ISO to auto or a specific value
When I‘ve finally figured it out ... lol. But I still learned something! I like that kind of video
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That was a lot of fun and informative, too. Always nice to go back and review the basics; maybe it will stick this time. Weather permitting, it might be nice to take some field trips around the city, or even out in the woods at Daniel's house?
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Great intro video Daniel and Marisa! I shoot mostly in Aperture priority.
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same here
Shutter priority for sports to stop motion!
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I used to shoot in Shutter Priority a lot and the very simple reason for it went by the name of Canon AE-1 ;)
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she learned a lot . so did i thanks
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Great video....thanks for sharing.
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Agree that shutter priority mode is my least used setting. I think the only time I’ve tried it is for panning shots of vehicles.
Auto-ISO does confuse the PASM dial - being in manual mode but with auto-ISO doesn’t make a lot of sense logically. That’s one reason I like the retro Fuji dials, but sadly they’ve been stepping away from them lately.
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Pro Tip: If you put the word Marisa in any title I will watch the video. I love you too Daniel.
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Where did you buy that mannequin? Love the idea of the show and great title! Always love watching you guys. Thank you.
Thank You! I’ve had it for years but a quick online search should find you one
Marissa has a super cute dress and I just noticed pocketsssssss
Priorities over here 😅
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I use all of the automatic settings and manual, only very rarely do I use the auto iso setting. Most of my personal shooting is in S mode so I can keep the shutter speed higher, as you have mentioned even VR does not always work the way it should.
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I use shutter priority a lot when shooting outside though I understand the relationship in the triangle. I like to keep the iso low 100 to 400. when I take a picture it will post the aperture. if I wish a higher aperture I need to adjust the iso to make it work. like I did a video for memorial day and I was taking picture of local town's war memorials. oddly enough they seem to be located on the busiest streets. so I have to be ready to get a shot with out blur, maybe, ha ha
Oh course with video messing with the shutter is not ideal so it would create a certain set of habits for sure
I started out shooting thoroughbred racing and always used shutter priority...set my canon a-1 to its fastest shutter speed (1/10000)...the reason I didn't use manual is because in the location where I shot had a lot of partially cloudy days and the horses would run in and out of clouds and sun...you only need to get "burned" once to figure out that M was not your friend
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As a UK railway photographer if I am photographing the express trains doing 125mph, I use Shutter Priority to keep the shutter speed at 1/1250 sec..
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Unless the 'rona gets worse, our school prom is on in April... I think I will be more conservative than in years past (Gavin's candlelight in the moonlight effect was tricky with different sized groups and their silly poses last time...). The venue gives me about a 10 x 25 space to set up in with moderate light control, so I'm estimating about F 5.6, 1/160 on a 35mm as a starting point. How do you adjust for rapidly changing groups?
How do I adjust what?
When do I use S (shutter priority)? Photographing cyclists zipping by I use 1/1250s or faster. Jet aircraft in flight on approach to airport with 300mm or longer telephoto lens, 1/500s. or faster. For turboprop aircraft on same approach, same lens, 1/300s so that prop appears to be moving. Use of higher shutter speed freezes the prop motion making the aircraft look like a toy model. For street photography I set shutter speed at 1/250s, f8 and auto ISO. In your Hasselblad EV discussion, only aperture and shutter speed change, not ISO (or ASA for us old folks!)
That makes lotta sense. Yes of course the ISO could not change as that would require changing the film LOL
I use Shutter Priority because I shoot football games.
This should be a pretty interesting series. I'm going to be helping a friend learn how to use her camera, so I suspect I'll be cribbing quite a bit from this in order to clarify & streamline things for her. Also just an FYI, but the audio was breaking up a bit here and there throughout the vid.
Thanks- yes, we had some audio issues but I didn’t want to delay getting the videos out.
Unfortunately the sound is off in a weird way. Sounds like the lavelier mics don't pick up your voices.
Yes, I know we had some dropouts.
Love the counting clicks thing, light bulb moment! BTW 35 years doing sound - the RF signal between your packs and the receiver is dropping out, it could be distance or more likely interference- depending on what you are using you may be able to choose a different frequency. If you can’t change frequency, try and keep “line of sight” between the packs and the receiver. So if the pack is on your belt towards your fanny, the receiver should be behind you for best results. From an artistic perspective, the left/right panning of the voices is distracting. Just my opinion🤓, YMMV lol Thanks for the videos!
Reminds me of the old Mr. Wizard TV show, except M is way more cute.
This is great! I know this is math but it helps to remember aperture as a fraction. So, f (1)/2 is bigger than f (1)/8. Think fractions. By the way, is Seth going to be a model? :)
Ok, that is a great way to explain it! I’ll be using that for sure. I doubt we can get Seth in front of the camera
Hey Daniel, I always enjoy your videos. Well, nearly almost always ;-). I'm not a professional or anything, just a guy who enjoys photography. I do know quite a lot about digital imaging because of my job. I'm an astronomer, the kind that uses cameras and telescopes. These days, and for quite some time now, the cameras are digital, and the differences between scientific cameras and consumer cameras are only a matter of details, not anything fundamental. So I have a question. Why do photographers so often say that increasing the ISO setting increases the sensitivity of the camera? It does not do that, which I'm quite sure you know, though you made that same claim in this video. The camera and sensor have a fixed sensitivity to light, and increasing the ISO only boosts the output gain for the image. That is why the noise seems to increase: you are taking a dimmer image, with lower signal to noise, and boosting its brightness globally, signal and noise, but not signal selectively over the noise. It is exactly like increasing the volume on a receiver while trying to listen to a weak radio station; the music will get louder, but so will the static. Some photographers get very aggressive and nasty when I point out this simple fact. I'm wondering if you have any idea why this is misstated so often, and why people become so angry when this mistake is pointed out. It seems counterproductive, especially when introducing new photographers to the skill, to misinform them about what one of the camera settings is doing. Especially given that it is nothing that is particularly complicated or difficult to understand.
Anyway, just wanted to ask to get your take on this. I find it puzzling, mostly because of the hostility I sometimes -not always - encounter when I mention this. I greatly appreciate all the work you do putting together your videos. I have learned tons from them, even if I am not going into the studio everyday (I don't have a studio) and putting it to use.
The reason is because it is much simpler to explain it that way, and the fact of the matter is that the science doesn’t actually matter to 99% of the people that are shooting.
@@DanielNortonPhotographer could it also be due to the fact that most text books and user guides describe it as a change in sensitivity to the sensor? For the end-user it really doesn't matter, what matters is finding a way, without using flash, to increase the exposure without adjusting shutter speed or aperture.
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So, Marisa has been steadily and surreptitiously encroaching upon Daniel’s territory ever since he turned his back on her, allowing her escape from the magic invisible box. Now, it is only a matter of time...
That’s the truth
I shoot mostly in M
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I'll just hang out,thankyou.
Always fun to hang out
How does the video camera shooting you two know the mannequin is white? Thank you!
The videographer knows
Why do you need that mannequin, Marisa's skin color is not that far off and we love selfies . ;-)
And ISO is not the sensitivity of the sensor, it is applied gain.(when you start teaching that in the beginning, as replacement film ISO in the past, it will not confuse them later)
And so we witnessed a new Vivian Maier been born !!
It has been my experience that the opposite of what you are saying is true, most people will not their head when you say gain but they have no idea what that actually means.
@@DanielNortonPhotographer This is what I tell them (beginners) maybe you find it useful : ISO is an indication of the sensitivity of a film in the old days. Basically the higher the ISO number of the film, the less light it will need to get a proper exposure. Film has been replaced by a sensor. Now we can not replace the sensor every time we need more sensitivity so to get the same result they amplify the (basically to dark) output signal of the sensor.
Still basic and people tend to understand that (try it on Melisa ;-)
If that doesn't work thae make the comparison with someone talking in a microphone and someone listening to the radio. If you need more sound : The person talking needs to talk louder (ISO film) or turn up the volume of the radio (ISO Sensor)
This is for the total noobs of course.
Great instruction, beautiful student, ugly mannequin. You were more on Marissa's microphone than yours, resulting in a bit of echo. I didn't learn anything new, but I think Marissa did. I enjoyed the demo anyway. Thanks Daniel.
Thank you, yes we are working at the audio there seems to have been a glitch
Wow, lucky Marisa get to learn from the man himself
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Hi, talking about the Exposure in just 20 minutes, is not easy.
I don't speak English and, therefore, I use the automatic translator.
I follow your videos.
You are actually much better as a Photographer than as a Teacher. As a Photographer you always have good ideas.
In general, I don't like the "how" pedagogy; I like the "why" pedagogy.
I understand that, in the UU.EE., in some cases, use the "how" and NOT the "why" things happen. Thanks.
Isn’t M mode Marisa mode?
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Question with genuine interest, does Marisa make those weird silent expressions in social situations as well?
Like, she's out at a restaurant and the server comes up and asks how the meal is going so Marisa just silently opens her mouth and stares them down?
Or like, Marisa jumps into a cab who asks her were she wants to go and she just opens up her mouth and stares the cabbie down...?
Here on your channel where things are lighter, it'd be cool to see her talk like a person instead of reacting like a mime. No disrespect, it'd just be nice to see real Marisa on your channel and have you interact as friends instead of background talent Marisa from onSet
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Marisa's clowning and comedy looks to camera are awesome and one the the reasons that she's my Fave model.
This was an unfair video. Marissa was behind the camera, Daniel should have been in a dress with hair and makeup. He could have still taught the exposure triangle.
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can somebody put a clothes on sheila...lol
No budget LOL