Game Animation Fundamentals 🎮 Feel
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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Continuing this mini-series looking at The Five Fundamentals of Video Game Animation, as proposed by Jonathan Cooper in his book:
www.gameanim.com
This time we're looking at the fundamental of FEEL, arguably the more important fundamental of the five.
MUSIC:
0:00 ♫ Lovely Planet - Lovely City ♫
0:45 🎵 Stardust Speedway Act 1 - Tee Lopes 🎵
2:47 🎵 UA-cam Royalty Free Music 🎵
5:26 🎵 Stardust Speedway [PAST] - Sonic CD 🎵
6:10 🎵 UA-cam Royalty Free Music 🎵
7:33 🎵 Sheep, Dog 'n Wolf - Level Select 🎵
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I don't know if I said this but the effort put in these videos is just amazing.
Another underrated channel that needs more attention.
Definitely going to either make a playlist or go get a library so more people can see.
This game really makes you FEEL like an animator
Haven't had a chance to watch this yet, just leaving a comment to say you're great so the algorithm will show you some love x
Let it run with the sound off during dinner, now I'm doing the same with a different account. UA-cam needs to know that this is good content.
Thanks! I actually do the same with yours 😆
Clipping being a huge pet peeve of mine, that cape is triggering me to no end.
Rocksteady _Spawn_ game, when?
Oh yeah no, effects animation is a very important thing that still gets overlooked sometimes, I hear ya.
@@VideoGameAnimationStudy It’s maddening, especially in 3D fighting games. It’s practically a feature in the Tekken games, really.
@@Target00smile Character's body parts clipping through another character is pretty much unavoidable in any game, especially when it comes to combat-focused games.
Clothes and fabrics, however, can be improved, but for Tekken in particular (which has character outfit customisation) it's often not worth the effort to prevent things clipping, since it's such a minor thing to worry about in a fighting game anyway lol
@@Reydriel Even 2015’s Tekken 7 has body parts clipping ad nauseam, highlighted more by the slowmo gimmick “inspired” by the OG Xbox’s _Kakuto Chojin._
Most modern 3D games haven't evolved beyond 1996’s Virtua Fighter 3 anim. effects; the latest Virtua Fighter game had clipping to a beautiful bare-minimum - released in 2006.
It isn’t a trivial issue to me. It’s actually one of the many issues that’s keeping this genre ever so stale.
simulations are expensive and realistic ones like in pixar movie are not achievable in real time for 60 fps games.
Oh my god that nostalgic song from the level selection hubworld of "Sheep dog 'n wolf" ❤️
It's a belter isn't it
Alex Barbetta I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who recognized it!!! I LOVE IT!
Every track was a perfect fit in every level. And why not mention the level 4 soundtrack and the flute melody ❤️
shit now i need to play it againt
Streets of Rage 4 looks so good! Hot damn!
Game feel has to be the most abstract of the fundamentals. There are no means of measuring it. You just have to feel it.
Shigeru Miyamoto knew exactly what he did when most the time developing Super Mario 64 was about making Mario feel great to control on a simple flat plane.
It really makes you FEEL like Spider-Man
you beat me to it, granted i think he did as well.
4/10, it has a little something for everyone (:
You can only add as much feel as your budget will allow.
That is also true.
Always happy to see your videos! Your pacing, editing, and music choices are amazing. It retains my attention so well and I definitely learn a lot everytime.
Mega eye-opening, thank you man! Super well put-together and informative
Sometimes, games now focus on form over function. I found the latest Star Wars game (I keep forgetting what it's called) felt terrible to control because they focused on the graphics. Just like Dark Souls did years before. However, as you said with Spiderman PS4 and the Batman Arkham games, they have consistently great animations with great gameplay living together without sacrificing one over the other and also Nintendo make their games look decent to great (Most of the times great) in terms of animation, but they don't sacrifice gameplay.
Also like you said at the start, feel is definitely the most important fundamental in animation design in games, at least in my opinion.
Great video and I look forward to part 2!
I thought the Star Wars Character (also forgot what he's called) felt way more unresponsive than the player character in Dark Souls.
In Dark Souls I always felt totally in control. Yeah, you couldn't cancel animations but I never felt that was to serve the form. It was to make you think about you moves and act deliberately.
Star Wars on the other hand often felt inconsistent and therefore unpredictable. And I didn't feel responsible for a majority of my deaths.
Bloxed Well I wouldn’t really say animation has much to do with graphics.
Zexal I say that graphics is the presentation of a game wether you hear or see it.
Bloxed Really, I would say graphics are more technical
good video, ill keep these in mind when i make knack 3
Woo, I got a shoutout! Keep up the good work!
immediately noticed the rockin' Bo En music at the start. good shit!
The most subjective principal since explaining what make a character feel to good to control is entirely based how you want them to feel.
Also the whole arguement of journalist saying "it makes you feel like ___". But how easy should the fantasy be accessed. Spider Man PS4 and the Arkham games are the perfect examples of games being a bit too easy to become these superheroes. Some would argue so easy that it makes you wonder if the game should be harder in order for you to actually feel like these heroes
Like you say, it is all subjective I guess.
I personally like the accessibility these games offer ☺️
I really appreciate you for making these videos 👍 thx
Thank you!
Nice analysis, I've always wanted someone to talk about the animation of the Arkham Games. They're my favourite games of all time. Thanx Dan.
Yes, Batman does look silly gliding across the road to punch a guy in the face. It is however very fun and amusing to take the hulking mass of Batmans weight and fling it around.
It's a little odd but enjoyable.
I really do love the Batman and Spider-Man games, with that being said, am I the only person that doesn’t like the “zip to enemy” part of the fighting?
IMO it feels right for Spider-Man and his webs but bad for Batman because it doesn't logically make sense
Makes complete sense for Spider-Man, not so much for Batman lol. But ultimately, it doesn't matter because Feel is more important
a lot of people dont like it that much tbh
@@TeoPG In Spider-Man you at least have to aim the punches lol
every animation you make for a game is tested and then often cut and changed to feel right... It sucks so bad when you have amazing mocap recording and mostly 10% is used (depends on many factors).
Yeah I think that's it. You have to be prepared to have your animation reduced or scrapped completely.
4:37 spiderverse shot? 👀
😏
New viewer BTW💗from🇨🇦So, what about the combat animation system & #FEEL for Tron Evolution??? Do you have a video for that video game???
Sheep Raider!
To me, good feel also requires some skill. If the game is too easy to do, then it might get boring to do. Despite it looking good. Take swinging in spidey ps4. Yes, the animations are really fluid. But the illusuion breaks when somebody tells you "Hold forward and R2". Then you realize how automated it really is.
Sound is also important. Have a weak sound, and it doesn't feel good to do. So using the assualt rifle in the first halo compared to 3. First halo feels deep and crunchy. 3 sounds tinny and weak. Probably because they used a stock sound effect. If you want to experience how important sound is, use halo 2 anniversary. Since you can easily switch between the original graphics and remade graphics by pressing select or tab, it's easier to compare. Most sounds in the remade graphics and sounds feels amazing. Can sound and feel better than the original, for the most part. Like the smg sounds like a gun, instead of someone dropping pebbles
I feel like Devil May Cry is a series you'd really enjoy talking about. It's a very skill based game where every combo you can perform depends on how well you can make it happen.If you're really good, you can even pull these sorts of things off. ua-cam.com/video/eY6BATNOMOA/v-deo.html
Nice, thanks for the suggestion!
I feel like at least a few more action games should use the free-flow combat system.
Always love your videos, Dan!! ^_^
I love how soon as I heard you say stop frames on a heavy hit, I thought of Hollow Knight, and there it was. XD that effect along with the CRACK and sound drop just make it super unpleasant to get hit...you really feel it. Kirby Super Star was great at this too, and had a ton of different animations and sounds for different types of damage that all felt horrible, lol.
'My favorite fighting game, Skullgirls'
I see you are a man of culture as well, Dan.
Yee
I guess the kids finally settled down enough for you to make this video in a weeks time
Ha!
The perception of the weight of a character can drastically change the way a player can be able to control a character.
I remember reading that Samus’ suit in Super Metroid was around *200 pounds* and the momentum based gameplay really throws me off, even to this day. The fact that I constantly keep smashing Samus against any ceiling and ledge because of her weird floatiness always makes the game feel so disjointed for me.
It’s such a shame because Super Metroid is such a great game but I find it so hard to replay it because it never *feels* right to me.
That's fair enough, many players who didn't grow up with the first three games often find Super to be floaty and difficult to control.
I think the thing that I'm beginning to find a tad annoying is that you need to hold run to move quicker.
I'm glad they removed the run button in subsequent games.
will you ever do a video on Sundered Eldritch Edition? It might fit perfectly along with your Metroid vids
Possibly!
2:45 Is it DankPods music?
I'm not sure what dankpod is. The music I've used is royalty-free music from UA-cam.
@@VideoGameAnimationStudy DankPods is another UA-cam channel I like to watch.
I associate this music with DankPods because he's the only UA-camr I watch who uses it regularly in almost every video.
Debate of hit box combat and pre canned animation is weird. Many choose pre canned animation because it is the easiest to make someone feel really good when you hit someone. On the other hand, it also makes the charcter feel really slidey since the charcter slides to the nearest enemy. Definitly the most accessible. On the other hand, it can be the most annoying when on different levels of terrain because the animation won't play out properly and you will be locked into that animation. Like in Shadow of War or AC Black Flag where the game struggles to know if you are hitting an enemy or countering. Leading to a lot of jank. Making it feel like it is the games fault
I personally hate pre canned animation combat because when it works, it doesn't make you think on what to do and where you are positioned. It also feels really slidey since characters slide to the nearest enemy and not acting right when on strange terrain
That's fair enough I guess!
The only time “feel” applies to gameplay is when it really makes you FEEEEEEL like a character.
I love this channel but there's a but. Don't take it personally, but I think you should work on your voice cadence. If you used your diaphragm more and spoke further from the microfone you would sound a bit more engaging. Just a random note
Thanks for the feedback
Oh wow, first time seeing this video and you sound so different. Just got used to your newer vids and this was a bit jarring. Sorry I don't have anything constructive to add. Lol
Great choice of games to represent Feel. I’m still a little salty Spiderman didnt win GOTY lol
Man it was such a great feeling game!