And the Squid Sisters. Maybe they aren't the most popular of the idol groups in Splatoon (idk, I'm a casual fan), but dang it, they were the first, and quite frankly, some of the most recognizable. Plus, if it weren't for them, we wouldn't have Calamari Inkantation. And while they aren't the best choices, at least they could work as skins/semi-clones/Echo Fighters for Inkling.
@@cdesigner9178Just add Octoling and you’re fine. Splatoon doesn’t need anymore characters after that. Any of the idols in my eyes would just be more restricted versions of those two because you’d pretty much have to boil them down to their basic character traits or preferences as they would technically have less weapons to choose from compared to the avatars.
The only ones i don't see playable are chain chomp, burrowing Snagret, Color TV-GAME 15, Flies & Hand, Helirin, Infantry and Tanks (the rep could be Andy and / or Sami), Metroid, Moon, Mother Brain (but only in that form, could work if we use the bipedal form), Nintendog (tho someone could say they could probably work), Rathalos, Sheriff (even if he is bipedal i dunno), Thwomp, Ghosts (only in their 8-bit form since their more recent incarnations could be a great 2nd Pac-Man Rep)(also same for Exite Biker) Andross (in that form he isn't graat for Smash, but his actual Body is good for a Smash Moveset), Klaptrap Dr Kawashima is a weird case but he could work if his hand could appear for some attacks The rest for me are fair game
Also unsubbed (edit: ok fine I won't) because of your opinion on The Squid Sisters they could use weapons that inkling doesn't use like the Splatbrella, Ink Mine, Sprinkler, etc. and Ink Strike / Inkzooka for their Final Smash
Also Kapp'n could be fun, using various Sea related moves like Fishing rod for Up Special, Sea Urchin for Neutral B, Throw Net for Grab and also could use The Bus for Side Special and Cornimer Bot for Down Special His Final Smash could trap the opponent in an aquarium with dangerous sea creatures lile Sharks that could be funny
Starfy is an absolute UNIT. he literally stops the moon from crashing into the earth, has an already versatile moveset to pick from in his game, and all round is just an insane pick for a fighter. I think he also had a mount/transformation system where he can turn into various animals iirc. can't believe you did my star boy dirty like that, smh
Okay, i feel like you got too personally biased with spring man. The no tier should only include the characters that flat out can't make for good playable characters, like nintendogs and rathalos, not characters that technically could in the same way dr mario has, ei clone fighters. Spring man could 100% become an echo fighter or clone of min min, so him being in f is beyond unreasonable.
How can he be echo fighter of her when they don't have the same moves set at all? They don't even have the same design for once he have boxing gloves for hands while she has dragon heads for hands. Blind person can see that. You don't even have to play the games arms to see that either. Spring man sucks.
@@INFERNO95 my brother in Christ, they're from the same game series with the same basic gameplay, even if you gave him different arms, he'd have roughly the same game plan due to that. Like seriously, I haven't played arms and know that, how are you that stupid. If fucking chrome is a damn echo fighter of Roy, there's actually zero reasoning this couldn't happen. Hell, regardless, you've said nothing that negates my main point. Fact is, he is more likely that rathalos and other characters that have zero playable depictions and are not good as playable characters like rathalos, my point still stands, bare minimum, he can't be the lowest tier, as bare minimum, he is capable of receiving a playable moveset, unlike them. So not only did you miss the damn point, not only can you not watch a basic video on how arms actually works, but you can't read, crazy, how's it feel to be helen keller dumbass?
@@INFERNO95 and you clearly can't read, because if you could, you'd realize you look actually stupid right now. Ignore your damn hate boner Hellen Keller, fact is, he is more playable than characters like rathalos, that was the main point. He's a playable character that isn't dependent on being a giant monster, and therefore by default shouldn't be in no tier. Also, if you did know even the slightest bit about arms, you'd know that he can literally use the same arms as her, they can swap weapons, THAT'S SOMETHING MIN MIN DOES IN GAMEPLAY. Meaning spring Man LITERALLY CAN USE THE SAME MOVE SET WITH MINOR CHANGES, THAT'S ACTUAL FACT HERE, THAT'S HOW HE PLAYS IN HIS HOME SERIES, WITH MIN MIN. Like dog, you're either blind and death or stupid, or hell both, if you can't understand this.
Deepthroat was the name Mark Felt went by as an undercover informant during the watergate scandal. Grey Fox gives snake info about traps around shadow moses throughout the game and snake even acknowledges the reference being made in the first codec with him
This truly feels like the average Nintendo youtuber video. - "Every iconic videogame character and Corrin" jokes - Puts Spring Man in bottom tier - Laughs about Bandana Dee, not knowing it's literally the Luigi of the Kirby series - Thinks Starfy is a Kirby ripoff - Has played a grand total of 6 videogame series - Unrelated Fire Emblem joke to finish off the video
The longer the list goes by the more violations spring man takes, like bro ong said that a real life dog and fucking pong are more likley to get in smash than him💀
tbf, what would Spring Man even do that MinMin doesn't? Just seems like he'd be a clone but with less flair, though I haven't played Arms, so feel free to correct me on that.
Crazy to me how the squid sisters both have a ton of character development, dialogue, time to shine, etc throughout all 3 splatoon games, yet people will say they like shiver and Frye more somehow. Like I can understand off the hook, they’re actual characters with personalities, but shiver and Frye are literally just dollar store off the hook. The only thing making them stand out is big man, and even then he has the personality of a wet towel. Squid sisters hate only exists because 90% of splatoon fans didn’t play the first game and don’t read the dialogue during the story modes
I'm all for Knuckles being playable, I imagine he could inherit some of the skeleton from Sonic to make things easier, but in order to be true to the character he really needs his own stuff, and I like what he can do. Also, one of his costumes needs to have a hat.
Spring Man is worthy of at least a C+ or C- tier. Even if he would most likely be a carbon copy of Min Min, that’s still more potential than freaking pong.
At least put Spring Man in the bottom of D tier. Because unlike the rest of the characters above F tier. He could actually be playable and could have possible move sets. Maybe it won’t be good move sets but at least it would be better than any move of the sets Pong could possibly have.
There is a rather easy way to fix the issue of Sukapon potentially angering Rayman fans... just put them both in, we gotta have the limbless fight of the century. Throw in Plok for good measure too.
Really agree with the last 3 picks. Bomberman could be really cool as a character with his bomb kicks and a potentially amazing final smash (hopefully with characters before Super R), knuckles is Sonic's first rival, plus his digging could provide more movement options than shadow's chaos control since it's probably just gonna be that one mewtwo move, and waluigi is just way past overdue.
I will say about Mother Brain, even though I haven't played Metroid at all I do know that she has some sort of dinosaur-like form that she takes in the end of Super Metroid, which can, in fact, move. Still probably doesn't move her all that far up the list though, but at least a little bit.
8:23 Hammer Bro has potential imo. His neutral special could throw random projectiles that are based off the "Bro" enemies (fire ball, ice ball, hammer, boomerang, pan). His dash attack could be unique in that you can charge it like Charging Chucks (as seen in Super Mario Odyssey). His up special could just be King Dedede's (referencing Sledge Bro's). He could have the same gimmick as Peach where holding the jump button puts him in a Lakitu's cloud (the difference being that you can still throw projectiles). His forward smash could be him smacking you with the red button (seen in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam). His down smash could a elektric stomp (referencing Sumo Bro's). In his side special he could use a magic wand that shoot a slow homing projectile that gives a random effect (referrencing Kamek/magikoopa's). In his down special he could go in his shell and essentially acting as Wario's Bike. His final smash could be an Airship where you use Bowser's Claw (seen in New Super Mario Bros U) to squish opponents and as a final blow you shoot a King Bill (seen in New Super Mario Bros Wii). He could have a single jump that can go very far and high (maximum length can reach the other side of Final destination in Ultimate). His taunts could be; the "Bah Dance" (seen in the New series), angry stomping (as seen in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam). Feel free to add to this
I want Waluigi, Knuckles The Echidna, Shadow The Hedgehog, Krystal, Spring Man, Isaac, Bomberman, and Akira in the game. My reasons are on a Google Doc.
Alucard will always be my number 1. There are about a billion attacking capabilities and movement options in SotN that would translate perfectly to Smash.
Gray fox contacts Snake via his codec in MG1 one and goes by an alias to hide his identity because the two of them used to be part of the same unit. The reason he goes by Deepthroat is apparently a reference to the Water Gate scandal. The whistle-blower on that scandal (who was apparently an FBI agent) used that same alias.
Riki is not D tier. How is putting foes to sleep too much for a fighter ? How is healing too much ? How is buffing a stat too much ? Hero does all of this, wii-fit trainer can heal or buff themselves, jigs can put you to sleep... Riki can also breathe fire, poison cloud, ice magic, make a silly dance, use stances, trip opponents, use backslash, inflict several debuffs, use an attack that get stronger for each debuff but removes them, steal items, play dead (ok maybe don't use that) or just beat you up with his stick. He also talks funny and is cool. Don't put him on the same tier as Blinky. How is he lower than excite bike ? Also idk I feel like if Daisy were an actual fighter she could just take waluigi's moveset idea. I only expressed disagreement in this comment so I just want to say that I enjoyed the video.
Dillons rolling western had a lot of fun tower defense and resource collection in its gameplay so having those elements included in his kit would be very interesting 17:29
Thje english language not good enough to giving names to characters, for me: Marie is "Marí" how he say is not totally the way is "Mary" what is "Méri" for me is tha "mari" read as "maráj"? The way is how is hear "Mauriii".
The Assist Trophies I want to see become fighters in future games are Krystal, Shovel Knight, Knuckles, Ashley, Shadow, Spring Man, Alucard, Tiki, and of course Waluigi! Guile and Starfy are at least possibilities. And I would want Kat & Ana (my favorite assist trophy of all time and was upset when they were removed in Ultimate) to either become fighters or come back assist trophies again!
Chef Kawasaki absolutey could be a fighter. He already has plenty of moves thanks to his playable appearance in Kirby Star Allies, and all the moves that he still needs could implement other Mini Bosses from the Kirby series. Like he could summon Bugzy for his Throws or Vividria for those little drawings of Kirby Characters that act as wandering hazards. Not only would it be a good representation of the Kirby Mini Bosses which are a staple for the series but it could also work nicely to represent the Partner Mechanic seen in many Kirby Games.
You know which assist trophie baffled me the most not being a actual fighter. It is Knuckles! He moves and handles like Sonic and only differs in his unique moves which are already fully programed and implemented. He can glyde ,he can dig and he can punch. He seems so easy to just make him in to a fully playable fighter. It would be the exact same scenario as is with villager and Isabelle. They both play and handle very similar to one another but differ in thiere special moves and some attacks so they can't count as eccofighters. Knuckles and sonic could have done the exact same thing and it would be game accurate because they also handle similarly in many of their games like for example sonic Mania.
Bomberman is just THE party character that should be in Smash And on another thought, if Zero were to be in Smash, i'd love to see him have his MegaMan Zero design
Agreed, I feel like the X series design is more likely to be chosen by developers due to the Zero series being more obscure, but the Zero series design has much more unique weapons and the Zero games themselves were my favorite in the series. I would love to see him in smash using the boomerang shield to reflect projectiles and throw it as an attack, as well as use the chain rod as a distance grab like Link's hookshot or Lucas' rope snake.
"Galaxian originating from the 1970's." Then proceeds to use the PAC-MANs taunt to show the fighter ship from Galaga (1981) and not the Galaxip sprite or use PAC-MAN's bonus fruit Galaxian
Does Kamek count? Cuz I'd really like Kamek. Kamek is like the one character that could be added to the game that would restore the magic of Smash Bros for me. Him or Poochy, who I'm surprised isn't already an assist trophy.
They made half a moveset for Krystal, Zero, Alucard and Knuckles. I feel like if the devs really wanted to they could’ve made them playable. Imagine their Amiibo too. I really wish Assist Trophies got Amiibo.
Although I'd be incredibly happy if both Knuckles and Shadow got in, I'd definitely pick Knuckles if it had to be only one of the two _Sonic_ characters. Just makes the most sense; he's one of Sonic's oldest friends with a longer history in the series, his moveset's very varied and different (despite some similarities, like the Spin Dash) from Sonic's - with more of a focus on his strength/martial artistry and movement options like his gliding, climbing and digging - and the fact there's a good canonical reason for him to join; getting wind of Sonic being in _Smash_ and (being the last survivor of a warrior clan), heading over himself to both test his skills against all kinds of new opponents and one-up his long-time friendly rival!
Three things: 1. Incredible video for such a small channel! I genuinely assumed you had thousands of subscribers, and then checked and saw you didn’t. 2. You made a joke about how no one wanted Spring Man in Smash, but I 100% disagree. Like, Spring Man was already a very unique character by the standards of the Smash roster, and Min Min kind of looks too weird. Secondly, I am of the belief that the main face of a video game should be the one in Smash, so Min Min being in there is odd, especially since Arms already isn’t well known in the first place. 3. 11:01 Koff koff Olimar koff
Thanks for the kind words! Though the thing about ARMs is that I’m not quite sure if Spring Man is the face of the series or not. Like, he is the “main” guy/on the cover, but I like the creator’s line of thinking where there’s not really a single main character, as they all are in a way. Normally I agree in that logic, but for ARMs I’m so glad they went with Min Min!
So about the character going by "deepthroat" it was a codename he gave himself as a reference to the real life Watergate scandal, as their was a real life secret informat who's codename was Deep Throat.
I really want Zero from Megaman in the next game even though I’m not super upset about him being an assist trophy here, that’s still better than nothing He would be so broken just like he is in the Capcom Vs. Series and I’m a huge fanboy for him. As much as I really want some of the assist trophies as playable characters instead, I’m not pissed off or going to lose sleep over it. Even though I want another Zelda fighter, it doesn’t anger me that I didn’t get one.
I would actually love to see Midna and Krystal. Midna would work similar to Duck Hunt but using a giant hair fist and riding Wolf Link who will also have some of his own movesets in combination with Midna. Krystal has so much potential. We haven't really seen her use her staff, except for the endgame of Star Fox Adventures but seeing how the assist trophy moves, they could easily input those same attacks but also add more.
It disturbs me, the way he said it. Loving an idol/group more than other sound good when say "i love them more" Calling any of them worst... you never loved any of them ever.
Ehh... I wouldn't add any Japanese exclusive or once Japanese exclusive characters (what I like to call a pity clap), but I do agree with Midna, Bomberman, Krystal, Phosphora, Knuckles, Shadow, Ashley, Waluigi, Guile, and Zero.
I think this video is... decent while some arguments are made well, some aren't and it doesn't take a long look at the comments to see why the F tier should be characters that... haven't been shown to do things, or cannot be properly put as a character like a Thwomp... How would that even fight? It has been shown doing 1 thing only! but Spring man, literally has a character that does 95% of what he can do as a playable character and don't forget, they really put a lot of echo fighters in Ultimate, I wouldn't be suprised if they did it again so then D tier should be characters that atleast look like they could be put, but aren't due to "not being a fighter" or "not being popular enough to be considered" The grunts, I could see Chain Chomp actually becoming a Piranha Plant Echo fighter, but most others, fair enough it was likely a one-time thing for C tier (why split C tier in 2 parts?) I would put characters that could be properly put in smash bros, but are not, cuz nobody would like em like obscure franchises, or franchises that don't fit the smash bros style B tier I'd say characters that are plausible fighters, but too obscure or not shown enough. I'd say Isabelle fell in this scope, as Villager got in, and Isabelle has similar moveset with slight tweaks. I'd say from about tier B, they would be capable of getting in smash. A tier would be highly likely characters, such as Little Mac was. They had a near full moveset ready or atleast a handful of fancy moves, like Knuckles currently does. S tier would be for characters that are almost guaranteed... Like Springman...
I mean... I'm not hoping for Mother Brain at all, but... "How would this thing even WALK?" Tell me you haven't played Super Metroid without telling me you haven't played Super Metroid xD
@@MattTrashBoat It's technically "bar-buh-ruh", but the second syllable meshes with the third one if people pronounce it quickly, so it sounds like "bar-bruh"
here's my idea for Waluigi's moveset (mainly the specials) neutral - Item Box (throws a Mario Kart item box on the ground, and gets a random item (he's a cheater, he brings items to a no-item match)) side - dice block (like Game & Watch's number, but with range) up - air swimming down - stomp (from his Assist Trophy days) smash attacks - golf (down), baseball (side), tennis (up), with an added small projectile final smash - Destruction Dance
I'm probably biased for Mega Man, Golden Sun and Star Fox, but I've wanted Isaac and Krystal since Brawl(and it kinda helps that SSF2 has them and they're kinda awesome) and I love Zero in the Capcom fighters so all 3 of those are still my most wanted. Also the fact we haven't gotten a new Zelda character since Melee is kinda criminal. For the Grey Fox-Deepthroat thing: In the game they specifically point out the name as a reference to the Watergate Scandal(the informant who exposed Nixon also went by "Deepthroat"). Also, while I'd be cool with Grey Fox, if Metal Gear ever got a new character, I feel Raiden from MGS2/Rising would probably be the better and more obvious pick(same could be said for Chun-Li instead of Guile)
What's actually really odd about Ike in Smash Bros is he's a slow power fighter but in the actual fire emblem games he's from or at least in path of radiance the game he originally came from, Ike actually can be really fast in that game. So in theory the Black Knight whose big slow and powerful should be a very different fighter but since Ike was turned into a slow power fighter yeah I could see why somebody would say the Black Knight would end up being some kind of variation of him
My friend who gave me some pointers about the Fire Emblem stuff in the vid actually told me that same exact thing. I suppose it was to make him stand out compared to Marth when he was introduced in Brawl. Although the bad thing about smash is that once you’re made a certain way it’s near impossible to break away from that.
I looked up Kururin and found he has the same Japanese name as Krillin from DBZ. This means both of the original Turtle School boys have been done dirty in terms of being included in Smash. Sue me for this joke.
13:42 What you’ve just described as fighter basically already exists in superior form because this character knows how to fight Adeline/Ado from Kirby 64
21:56 in defense to Dr.Wily in Megaman Football (or Megaman Soccer) Wily do have some sort of battle armor for him to be able to play Football so if Dr.Wily would be in they must use his machine from that Football game just like the fan-game Megaman 8-bit Deathmatch did for his Playable appearance
I feel like, if you want to make the idea of Dr. Wily summoning Robot Masters work...I feel it would be best to utilize a boss from Mega Man 10: The Weapons Archive. It's a machine that can utilize the data of Robot Masters throughout the series. I imagine you could make it similar in execution to Hero's Command Selection (but not NEARLY to the same excessive lengths), where you pick from one of 3 or 4 Robot Masters and summon the Weapons Archive to use one of said Robot Master's attacks. It'd be relegated to a Special Attack, though, and not the full moveset. Maybe it'd have its own gauge, like using Special Weapons in the Mega Man series proper...28 units, though.
Okay so i don't care if they are fire emblem.... Lyn deserves a spot she has been a trophy for too long. And give her the bow from the mobile game. Id imagine it would feel like Marth mixed with Link play style wise
If I was in charge of the next Smash Bros game, and could literally any of the Assist Trophies to the main roster, here's what I would choose; 1. Akira 2. Alucard 3. Gray Fox 4. Isaac 5. Shadow the Hedgehog 6. Knuckles the Echidna 7. Zero 8. Shovel Knight 9. Midna 10. Majora/Skull Kid (with The Moon acting as his Final Smash) 11. Samurai Goroh 12. Ashley 13. Waluigi 14. Rodin 15. Takamaru 16. Black Knight (We've yet to have an actual Fire Emblem antagonist) 17. Spring Man 18. Phosphora 19. Ghirahim 20. Knuckle Joe 21. Starfy 22. Lyn 23. Krystal 24. Guile 25. Hammer Bro (Hey, if Piranha Plant can be playable, why not the Hammer Bro?) 26. Elec Man 27. Jill 28. Sukapon 29. Dillon 30. Magnus 31. Barbara 32. Kat & Ana 33. Bomberman 34. Tiki 35. Chain Chomp (Odd choice, but if a Chain Chomp can be playable in a Mario Tennis game, why can't it do the same thing in Smash Bros?)
Bro put a Thwomp, a Bird's Head, Two Giant Space Heads, the literal Moon and TWO PING PONG BARS over Spring Man.
what having negative sauce will do to a man
And the Squid Sisters. Maybe they aren't the most popular of the idol groups in Splatoon (idk, I'm a casual fan), but dang it, they were the first, and quite frankly, some of the most recognizable. Plus, if it weren't for them, we wouldn't have Calamari Inkantation. And while they aren't the best choices, at least they could work as skins/semi-clones/Echo Fighters for Inkling.
@@cdesigner9178Just add Octoling and you’re fine. Splatoon doesn’t need anymore characters after that. Any of the idols in my eyes would just be more restricted versions of those two because you’d pretty much have to boil them down to their basic character traits or preferences as they would technically have less weapons to choose from compared to the avatars.
HEY! Do not do the Burrowing Snagret like that! It has a BODY and a LEG! ONE LEG! THAT’S ONE MORE THAN PONG DOES!
Springy needs some justice
17:24 as someone who loves Dillon Dead-Heat Breakers I can confirm that there's more than enough for a really fun moveset focused on combos and speed
18:50 Spoilers if any one cares
Deepthroat is a codename grex fox uses to communicate with solid snake in secretly in metal gear solid for ps1.
As an MGS fan, I have a chuckle imagining non-MGS fans reading about some guy named "Deep Throat" communicating with a guy named "Solid Snake"
"Tiki is different from the other Fire Emblem reps because she turns into a dragon" CORRIN
Imagine if there was a Super Smash Bros game spin-off that allows us to play as the assist trophies to save the main characters
The only ones i don't see playable are chain chomp, burrowing Snagret, Color TV-GAME 15, Flies & Hand, Helirin, Infantry and Tanks (the rep could be Andy and / or Sami), Metroid, Moon, Mother Brain (but only in that form, could work if we use the bipedal form), Nintendog (tho someone could say they could probably work), Rathalos, Sheriff (even if he is bipedal i dunno), Thwomp, Ghosts (only in their 8-bit form since their more recent incarnations could be a great 2nd Pac-Man Rep)(also same for Exite Biker)
Andross (in that form he isn't graat for Smash, but his actual Body is good for a Smash Moveset), Klaptrap
Dr Kawashima is a weird case but he could work if his hand could appear for some attacks
The rest for me are fair game
Also unsubbed (edit: ok fine I won't) because of your opinion on The Squid Sisters they could use weapons that inkling doesn't use like the Splatbrella, Ink Mine, Sprinkler, etc. and Ink Strike / Inkzooka for their Final Smash
Also Kapp'n could be fun, using various Sea related moves like Fishing rod for Up Special, Sea Urchin for Neutral B, Throw Net for Grab and also could use The Bus for Side Special and Cornimer Bot for Down Special
His Final Smash could trap the opponent in an aquarium with dangerous sea creatures lile Sharks that could be funny
Also Black Knight (Zelgeus) and Shadow could be unique enough as their own fighters
Final Fantasy is the only guest franchise on the base roster without an assist trophy
Most of its representation came from DLC
Little Mac, Isabelle, and Dark Samus
Put P+ Sonic (to replace his current moveset) and Knuckles in Smash and I am a happy man.
Knuckles can just be a combination of Sonic and Little Mac.
They all be hating on Bandana Waddledee man 😭😭
Hear me out
The Moon gets in as Skull Kid's Final Smash
Oh yes I feel like that would be a must
obviously
Killing two Fairies with one Mask- I mean Moon! Sorry for coming up with a bad pun😅
I hope nobody Tatl Taels on me!
@@brandonwilliams6119😁
Starfy is an absolute UNIT. he literally stops the moon from crashing into the earth, has an already versatile moveset to pick from in his game, and all round is just an insane pick for a fighter. I think he also had a mount/transformation system where he can turn into various animals iirc. can't believe you did my star boy dirty like that, smh
I'd like to formally apologize to the Starfy community ;(
@@MattTrashBoat>:c I’ll let it slide this one time
I’m not letting it slide till you spin
lets go
@@MattTrashBoatdon't call Starfy a Kirby ripoff.
Okay, i feel like you got too personally biased with spring man. The no tier should only include the characters that flat out can't make for good playable characters, like nintendogs and rathalos, not characters that technically could in the same way dr mario has, ei clone fighters. Spring man could 100% become an echo fighter or clone of min min, so him being in f is beyond unreasonable.
How can he be echo fighter of her when they don't have the same moves set at all? They don't even have the same design for once he have boxing gloves for hands while she has dragon heads for hands. Blind person can see that. You don't even have to play the games arms to see that either. Spring man sucks.
@@INFERNO95 my brother in Christ, they're from the same game series with the same basic gameplay, even if you gave him different arms, he'd have roughly the same game plan due to that. Like seriously, I haven't played arms and know that, how are you that stupid. If fucking chrome is a damn echo fighter of Roy, there's actually zero reasoning this couldn't happen. Hell, regardless, you've said nothing that negates my main point. Fact is, he is more likely that rathalos and other characters that have zero playable depictions and are not good as playable characters like rathalos, my point still stands, bare minimum, he can't be the lowest tier, as bare minimum, he is capable of receiving a playable moveset, unlike them. So not only did you miss the damn point, not only can you not watch a basic video on how arms actually works, but you can't read, crazy, how's it feel to be helen keller dumbass?
@@INFERNO95 and you clearly can't read, because if you could, you'd realize you look actually stupid right now. Ignore your damn hate boner Hellen Keller, fact is, he is more playable than characters like rathalos, that was the main point. He's a playable character that isn't dependent on being a giant monster, and therefore by default shouldn't be in no tier. Also, if you did know even the slightest bit about arms, you'd know that he can literally use the same arms as her, they can swap weapons, THAT'S SOMETHING MIN MIN DOES IN GAMEPLAY. Meaning spring Man LITERALLY CAN USE THE SAME MOVE SET WITH MINOR CHANGES, THAT'S ACTUAL FACT HERE, THAT'S HOW HE PLAYS IN HIS HOME SERIES, WITH MIN MIN. Like dog, you're either blind and death or stupid, or hell both, if you can't understand this.
Please no more arms characters
More people want Twintelle anyone for the sake of diversity, but me personally I want Lola Pop for those Clussy Memes🤡
Deepthroat was the name Mark Felt went by as an undercover informant during the watergate scandal. Grey Fox gives snake info about traps around shadow moses throughout the game and snake even acknowledges the reference being made in the first codec with him
That was my ex wife's nickname.....waah i miss her man i miss my throat goat
Even AVGN jokes about Solid Snake’s name just being a code name for Erect Cock lmao
This truly feels like the average Nintendo youtuber video.
- "Every iconic videogame character and Corrin" jokes
- Puts Spring Man in bottom tier
- Laughs about Bandana Dee, not knowing it's literally the Luigi of the Kirby series
- Thinks Starfy is a Kirby ripoff
- Has played a grand total of 6 videogame series
- Unrelated Fire Emblem joke to finish off the video
I’ll have you know I’ve played a grand total of 7 series!
@@MattTrashBoat Grand? 7?
Dude, point me in this doll where Matt hurt you.
@@redmii69 FLINTSTONES??
Don’t be so harsh, he’s still finding his own identity (I do agree with you though)
Punching a dog around is a turn off
Duck hunt dog who was stomped on by banjo in a trailer:
That was acceptable 😭
I dunno, that's still a cartoon dog that hates your guts
To be fair he deserves it
Duck Hunt getting animal abused 💀
Smash has lots of Dogs, Fox being the first canine since 64, then there’s Wolf and maybe Lucario as Anubis?
ROB has no feet
Now I'm stuck here picturing ROB with feet...
@@MattTrashBoat ROB WITH WHAT
Came here to comment this, glad to see someone already did
@@MattTrashBoat uhuhrm mother brain also has the ability to have feet in super metroid *adjusts glasses*
@@MattTrashBoatLook up ROB 64.
Bro really put Pong over Spring Man 💀
Bro really being the average skull emoji spammer
@@brandonwilliams6119 he has a point tho, like, why pong over a character from an kinda recent semi-fighting game
Pong is the goat
@@pablosolermontanos641Both would be good. But Dr. Eggman should be added forst over both of them, and Vaati or Impa.
The longer the list goes by the more violations spring man takes, like bro ong said that a real life dog and fucking pong are more likley to get in smash than him💀
tbf, what would Spring Man even do that MinMin doesn't? Just seems like he'd be a clone but with less flair, though I haven't played Arms, so feel free to correct me on that.
@@H1_R3Z why do you need for a arms fan to correct you just to be named frank? Ifs not even a good name lmao
Crazy to me how the squid sisters both have a ton of character development, dialogue, time to shine, etc throughout all 3 splatoon games, yet people will say they like shiver and Frye more somehow. Like I can understand off the hook, they’re actual characters with personalities, but shiver and Frye are literally just dollar store off the hook. The only thing making them stand out is big man, and even then he has the personality of a wet towel. Squid sisters hate only exists because 90% of splatoon fans didn’t play the first game and don’t read the dialogue during the story modes
How even anyone hate any splatoon idol? Being neutral towards them is ok. Loving them give you power in splatoon and in Smash.
Yet pong and excitebike won from they
I'm all for Knuckles being playable, I imagine he could inherit some of the skeleton from Sonic to make things easier, but in order to be true to the character he really needs his own stuff, and I like what he can do.
Also, one of his costumes needs to have a hat.
The hat is yet another thing Project + has done! Literally just the perfect example of knuckles in smash
What did Springman do to you dude 😭🙏
Nintendogs: would feel bad to punch
Isabella: free real estate
Duck hunt dog: *holds sign with "crap" on it* lol
Punching the dog is morally incorrect, but the dog punching you? Metal.
Whabout Wolf 🤔?
R.O.B. doesn't have feet, and while the Koopalings DO, they don't use them!
Spring Man is worthy of at least a C+ or C- tier. Even if he would most likely be a carbon copy of Min Min, that’s still more potential than freaking pong.
At least put Spring Man in the bottom of D tier. Because unlike the rest of the characters above F tier. He could actually be playable and could have possible move sets. Maybe it won’t be good move sets but at least it would be better than any move of the sets Pong could possibly have.
I'm still coping at the fact Knuckles is an assist trophy in Ultimate. Same with Zero, both DESERVE to be on the roster as selectable characters.
Same with both a lot also shadow,Bomberman and shovel knight you can't convince me they would not be perfect for that role of being playable
There is a rather easy way to fix the issue of Sukapon potentially angering Rayman fans... just put them both in, we gotta have the limbless fight of the century. Throw in Plok for good measure too.
W for having first place being knuckles
he's my most wanted character for the game
also points for putting him above shadow
You know I'm definitely surprised that sonic had ONE rep in smash when they had much more to go off of
Really agree with the last 3 picks. Bomberman could be really cool as a character with his bomb kicks and a potentially amazing final smash (hopefully with characters before Super R), knuckles is Sonic's first rival, plus his digging could provide more movement options than shadow's chaos control since it's probably just gonna be that one mewtwo move, and waluigi is just way past overdue.
I will say about Mother Brain, even though I haven't played Metroid at all I do know that she has some sort of dinosaur-like form that she takes in the end of Super Metroid, which can, in fact, move. Still probably doesn't move her all that far up the list though, but at least a little bit.
Yeah, though... uh... yeah same issue as Ridley, but even worse cause there's no real way to scale her down like Ridley-
@@TheFluffyHyena they should make her three feet tall
I think next case scenario, Mother Brain could make it as a boss in Smash
There’s also that one woman from Other M who I forgot the name of that Mother Brain controls
Since sonic has the highest base speed in the game, and knuckles contrasts sonic, Knuckles would have the most powerful base strength.
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Hammer Bro has potential imo. His neutral special could throw random projectiles that are based off the "Bro" enemies (fire ball, ice ball, hammer, boomerang, pan). His dash attack could be unique in that you can charge it like Charging Chucks (as seen in Super Mario Odyssey). His up special could just be King Dedede's (referencing Sledge Bro's). He could have the same gimmick as Peach where holding the jump button puts him in a Lakitu's cloud (the difference being that you can still throw projectiles). His forward smash could be him smacking you with the red button (seen in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam). His down smash could a elektric stomp (referencing Sumo Bro's). In his side special he could use a magic wand that shoot a slow homing projectile that gives a random effect (referrencing Kamek/magikoopa's). In his down special he could go in his shell and essentially acting as Wario's Bike. His final smash could be an Airship where you use Bowser's Claw (seen in New Super Mario Bros U) to squish opponents and as a final blow you shoot a King Bill (seen in New Super Mario Bros Wii). He could have a single jump that can go very far and high (maximum length can reach the other side of Final destination in Ultimate). His taunts could be; the "Bah Dance" (seen in the New series), angry stomping (as seen in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam). Feel free to add to this
nah side special should control like blue shell where it bounces off walls
A Corryn joke and Spingman at the bottom list are a good combination of a true smash fan.
I want Waluigi, Knuckles The Echidna, Shadow The Hedgehog, Krystal, Spring Man, Isaac, Bomberman, and Akira in the game. My reasons are on a Google Doc.
U shoudl link the google doc
@@bigkebizino8970 Maybe I will
Link google doc, and why tf isn't Zero on tha list?
@@jaydenthezoahking8473 Alright. You'll get your wish.
@@jaydenthezoahking8473 Actually, I don't think I'm able to send you the link, but I may share my reasons with you later.
nah starfy has some cool ass games and def would have enough material to make a cool move set, maybe even one with different form changes
Just got out of daycare, Starfy is based asf and actually has a lot of moveset potential. Also really fun games
Alucard will always be my number 1. There are about a billion attacking capabilities and movement options in SotN that would translate perfectly to Smash.
Gray fox contacts Snake via his codec in MG1 one and goes by an alias to hide his identity because the two of them used to be part of the same unit. The reason he goes by Deepthroat is apparently a reference to the Water Gate scandal. The whistle-blower on that scandal (who was apparently an FBI agent) used that same alias.
Riki is not D tier. How is putting foes to sleep too much for a fighter ? How is healing too much ? How is buffing a stat too much ? Hero does all of this, wii-fit trainer can heal or buff themselves, jigs can put you to sleep...
Riki can also breathe fire, poison cloud, ice magic, make a silly dance, use stances, trip opponents, use backslash, inflict several debuffs, use an attack that get stronger for each debuff but removes them, steal items, play dead (ok maybe don't use that) or just beat you up with his stick. He also talks funny and is cool. Don't put him on the same tier as Blinky. How is he lower than excite bike ?
Also idk I feel like if Daisy were an actual fighter she could just take waluigi's moveset idea.
I only expressed disagreement in this comment so I just want to say that I enjoyed the video.
Dillons rolling western had a lot of fun tower defense and resource collection in its gameplay so having those elements included in his kit would be very interesting 17:29
I used to think Starfy was Kirby ripoff too, them i played one of his games and they play nothing alike
How DARE you disrespect my gal Callie?!
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The first person in history to call mispronounce "Marie" as "mari"
Thje english language not good enough to giving names to characters, for me: Marie is "Marí" how he say is not totally the way is "Mary" what is "Méri" for me is tha "mari" read as "maráj"? The way is how is hear "Mauriii".
The Assist Trophies I want to see become fighters in future games are Krystal, Shovel Knight, Knuckles, Ashley, Shadow, Spring Man, Alucard, Tiki, and of course Waluigi! Guile and Starfy are at least possibilities. And I would want Kat & Ana (my favorite assist trophy of all time and was upset when they were removed in Ultimate) to either become fighters or come back assist trophies again!
Easily Knuckles. Sonic was honestly done dirty in terms of representation.
You may not understand the appeal of Starfy, but your understanding of the appeal of Bomberman is amazing.
Chef Kawasaki absolutey could be a fighter. He already has plenty of moves thanks to his playable appearance in Kirby Star Allies, and all the moves that he still needs could implement other Mini Bosses from the Kirby series. Like he could summon Bugzy for his Throws or Vividria for those little drawings of Kirby Characters that act as wandering hazards.
Not only would it be a good representation of the Kirby Mini Bosses which are a staple for the series but it could also work nicely to represent the Partner Mechanic seen in many Kirby Games.
22:14 Forward aerial featuring air Shooter instead of yamato spear!
Nah
I'm honestly shocked spring man was at the bottom of all options (other than little Mac, isabelle and dark samus)
If there's another Wario Land game, it should have a 2 Players Co-op mode where Waluigi is the 2nd Player
I'd love to see Knuckless, Tails and Shadow as a fighters. They would be awesome
No eggman :(
@@MattTrashBoat Eggman would also be pretty cool, but im not to crazy about him
Fighter name: "TrashBoat"
Man of culture I see
Bandanna Waddle Dee. Who’s with me?
Seeing my #1 (Krystal) and #3 (Knuckles) up so high makes me happy
Both would be great additions to the cast and would fun to fight with
I am flabbergasted by the amout of L's this video has 😂
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You know which assist trophie baffled me the most not being a actual fighter.
It is Knuckles! He moves and handles like Sonic and only differs in his unique moves which are already fully programed and implemented. He can glyde ,he can dig and he can punch.
He seems so easy to just make him in to a fully playable fighter.
It would be the exact same scenario as is with villager and Isabelle. They both play and handle very similar to one another but differ in thiere special moves and some attacks so they can't count as eccofighters.
Knuckles and sonic could have done the exact same thing and it would be game accurate because they also handle similarly in many of their games like for example sonic Mania.
Starfy hate! disliked!
Bomberman is just THE party character that should be in Smash
And on another thought, if Zero were to be in Smash, i'd love to see him have his MegaMan Zero design
An Omega palette with a “I am the Messiah” taunt would go so hard
Agreed, I feel like the X series design is more likely to be chosen by developers due to the Zero series being more obscure, but the Zero series design has much more unique weapons and the Zero games themselves were my favorite in the series. I would love to see him in smash using the boomerang shield to reflect projectiles and throw it as an attack, as well as use the chain rod as a distance grab like Link's hookshot or Lucas' rope snake.
@@hakasek4052 Z-Knuckle as a Cargo throw would be so cool
i think he could do well as an olimar/alph deal where you can play as either and just use a mixed moveset between the two.
26:46 Ok so Corrin but the Dragon Form is apart of their move set and not Final Smash Exclusive. I see
"Galaxian originating from the 1970's." Then proceeds to use the PAC-MANs taunt to show the fighter ship from Galaga (1981) and not the Galaxip sprite or use PAC-MAN's bonus fruit Galaxian
Bro I swear I was going to double check if that was the right sprite or not but I done diddly forgot 😭
Does Kamek count? Cuz I'd really like Kamek. Kamek is like the one character that could be added to the game that would restore the magic of Smash Bros for me. Him or Poochy, who I'm surprised isn't already an assist trophy.
If they added Zero as a fighter he would instantly become an S teir, if you know you know
Alucard would also be dope as hell
They made half a moveset for Krystal, Zero, Alucard and Knuckles. I feel like if the devs really wanted to they could’ve made them playable. Imagine their Amiibo too. I really wish Assist Trophies got Amiibo.
Man would put Mavis Beacon and the Burger King mascot in Smash before Spring Man
Unironically the BK mascot would go hard as heck
Although I'd be incredibly happy if both Knuckles and Shadow got in, I'd definitely pick Knuckles if it had to be only one of the two _Sonic_ characters. Just makes the most sense; he's one of Sonic's oldest friends with a longer history in the series, his moveset's very varied and different (despite some similarities, like the Spin Dash) from Sonic's - with more of a focus on his strength/martial artistry and movement options like his gliding, climbing and digging - and the fact there's a good canonical reason for him to join; getting wind of Sonic being in _Smash_ and (being the last survivor of a warrior clan), heading over himself to both test his skills against all kinds of new opponents and one-up his long-time friendly rival!
Three things:
1. Incredible video for such a small channel! I genuinely assumed you had thousands of subscribers, and then checked and saw you didn’t.
2. You made a joke about how no one wanted Spring Man in Smash, but I 100% disagree. Like, Spring Man was already a very unique character by the standards of the Smash roster, and Min Min kind of looks too weird. Secondly, I am of the belief that the main face of a video game should be the one in Smash, so Min Min being in there is odd, especially since Arms already isn’t well known in the first place.
3. 11:01 Koff koff Olimar koff
Thanks for the kind words! Though the thing about ARMs is that I’m not quite sure if Spring Man is the face of the series or not. Like, he is the “main” guy/on the cover, but I like the creator’s line of thinking where there’s not really a single main character, as they all are in a way. Normally I agree in that logic, but for ARMs I’m so glad they went with Min Min!
So about the character going by "deepthroat" it was a codename he gave himself as a reference to the real life Watergate scandal, as their was a real life secret informat who's codename was Deep Throat.
KNUCKLES FANS, RISE UP.
I really want Zero from Megaman in the next game even though I’m not super upset about him being an assist trophy here, that’s still better than nothing
He would be so broken just like he is in the Capcom Vs. Series and I’m a huge fanboy for him. As much as I really want some of the assist trophies as playable characters instead, I’m not pissed off or going to lose sleep over it. Even though I want another Zelda fighter, it doesn’t anger me that I didn’t get one.
It felt good to hear you talk positively about Krystal 💛x)
I would actually love to see Midna and Krystal. Midna would work similar to Duck Hunt but using a giant hair fist and riding Wolf Link who will also have some of his own movesets in combination with Midna. Krystal has so much potential. We haven't really seen her use her staff, except for the endgame of Star Fox Adventures but seeing how the assist trophy moves, they could easily input those same attacks but also add more.
Oh hell nah, no way is bro saying Callie and Marie are the worst idols instead of Shiver and Frye (Big Man is fine)
It disturbs me, the way he said it. Loving an idol/group more than other sound good when say "i love them more" Calling any of them worst... you never loved any of them ever.
I know, such scary opinions
Ehh... I wouldn't add any Japanese exclusive or once Japanese exclusive characters (what I like to call a pity clap), but I do agree with Midna, Bomberman, Krystal, Phosphora, Knuckles, Shadow, Ashley, Waluigi, Guile, and Zero.
I think this video is... decent
while some arguments are made well, some aren't and it doesn't take a long look at the comments to see why
the F tier should be characters that... haven't been shown to do things, or cannot be properly put as a character
like a Thwomp... How would that even fight? It has been shown doing 1 thing only!
but Spring man, literally has a character that does 95% of what he can do as a playable character
and don't forget, they really put a lot of echo fighters in Ultimate, I wouldn't be suprised if they did it again
so then D tier should be characters that atleast look like they could be put, but aren't due to "not being a fighter" or "not being popular enough to be considered"
The grunts, I could see Chain Chomp actually becoming a Piranha Plant Echo fighter, but most others, fair enough it was likely a one-time thing
for C tier (why split C tier in 2 parts?) I would put characters that could be properly put in smash bros, but are not, cuz nobody would like em
like obscure franchises, or franchises that don't fit the smash bros style
B tier I'd say characters that are plausible fighters, but too obscure or not shown enough. I'd say Isabelle fell in this scope, as Villager got in, and Isabelle has similar moveset with slight tweaks. I'd say from about tier B, they would be capable of getting in smash.
A tier would be highly likely characters, such as Little Mac was. They had a near full moveset ready or atleast a handful of fancy moves, like Knuckles currently does.
S tier would be for characters that are almost guaranteed... Like Springman...
I mean... I'm not hoping for Mother Brain at all, but... "How would this thing even WALK?"
Tell me you haven't played Super Metroid without telling me you haven't played Super Metroid xD
"Bar-bara?"
My guy, you gotta work on your pronunciations. Barbara is a real life name
If Barbara is the same pronunciation as Barbra then I quit English
@@MattTrashBoat Actually Barbara is the only spelling for the name.
That second a has got me in a chokehold 😭
@@MattTrashBoat The "A" Mandela Effected itself into your world.
@@MattTrashBoat It's technically "bar-buh-ruh", but the second syllable meshes with the third one if people pronounce it quickly, so it sounds like "bar-bruh"
here's my idea for Waluigi's moveset (mainly the specials)
neutral - Item Box (throws a Mario Kart item box on the ground, and gets a random item (he's a cheater, he brings items to a no-item match))
side - dice block (like Game & Watch's number, but with range)
up - air swimming
down - stomp (from his Assist Trophy days)
smash attacks - golf (down), baseball (side), tennis (up), with an added small projectile
final smash - Destruction Dance
That not your iead that everyone lame idea from the net.
I'd definitely want to play as Zero(MMX).
Same
Mother Brain had a body in Super Metroid. She was also an android in Other M, but we don’t talk about Other M
Personally, Knuckles instead of Tails would make no sense to me. It would be like having Gray Fox instead of Raiden
Waluigi over shadow
bruh
Krystal, shadow, and isaac are the only characters i want upgraded from assist trophy to an actual characters
Saying the squid sisters are the worst idol group is the worst take i've ever heard from a splatoon player
calling starfy a chinese kirby rip off when theyre both japanese.. yikes
If we got Gray Fox before Raiden I would end it all (it has to be MGRR Raiden)
I'm probably biased for Mega Man, Golden Sun and Star Fox, but I've wanted Isaac and Krystal since Brawl(and it kinda helps that SSF2 has them and they're kinda awesome) and I love Zero in the Capcom fighters so all 3 of those are still my most wanted. Also the fact we haven't gotten a new Zelda character since Melee is kinda criminal.
For the Grey Fox-Deepthroat thing: In the game they specifically point out the name as a reference to the Watergate Scandal(the informant who exposed Nixon also went by "Deepthroat").
Also, while I'd be cool with Grey Fox, if Metal Gear ever got a new character, I feel Raiden from MGS2/Rising would probably be the better and more obvious pick(same could be said for Chun-Li instead of Guile)
33:59 why is 'new' scribbled out on toon link and ganon lmao
What's actually really odd about Ike in Smash Bros is he's a slow power fighter but in the actual fire emblem games he's from or at least in path of radiance the game he originally came from, Ike actually can be really fast in that game. So in theory the Black Knight whose big slow and powerful should be a very different fighter but since Ike was turned into a slow power fighter yeah I could see why somebody would say the Black Knight would end up being some kind of variation of him
My friend who gave me some pointers about the Fire Emblem stuff in the vid actually told me that same exact thing. I suppose it was to make him stand out compared to Marth when he was introduced in Brawl. Although the bad thing about smash is that once you’re made a certain way it’s near impossible to break away from that.
I looked up Kururin and found he has the same Japanese name as Krillin from DBZ.
This means both of the original Turtle School boys have been done dirty in terms of being included in Smash.
Sue me for this joke.
Ah yea now that you mention it he does! I always found his Japanese name to be a bit strange (not to be disrespectful tho lol)
Thank GOD knuckles is treated with more respect than shadow cus like
Shadow is just edgy sonic (hmo)
There is only one correct answer... *Waluigi.*
13:42 What you’ve just described as fighter basically already exists in superior form because this character knows how to fight
Adeline/Ado from Kirby 64
21:56 in defense to Dr.Wily in Megaman Football (or Megaman Soccer) Wily do have some sort of battle armor for him to be able to play Football so if Dr.Wily would be in they must use his machine from that Football game just like the fan-game Megaman 8-bit Deathmatch did for his Playable appearance
I feel like, if you want to make the idea of Dr. Wily summoning Robot Masters work...I feel it would be best to utilize a boss from Mega Man 10: The Weapons Archive. It's a machine that can utilize the data of Robot Masters throughout the series. I imagine you could make it similar in execution to Hero's Command Selection (but not NEARLY to the same excessive lengths), where you pick from one of 3 or 4 Robot Masters and summon the Weapons Archive to use one of said Robot Master's attacks. It'd be relegated to a Special Attack, though, and not the full moveset.
Maybe it'd have its own gauge, like using Special Weapons in the Mega Man series proper...28 units, though.
9:24 rob has no feet, delete your channel 💥💥💥
Honestly I think goomba, koopa, etc could be similar to piranha plant
fun vid but couldn’t finish it. my opinions differ FAR too much lmao
Valid
Okay so i don't care if they are fire emblem.... Lyn deserves a spot she has been a trophy for too long. And give her the bow from the mobile game. Id imagine it would feel like Marth mixed with Link play style wise
I think we're better off forgetting that mobile thing was ever a thing... forever.
If I was in charge of the next Smash Bros game, and could literally any of the Assist Trophies to the main roster, here's what I would choose;
1. Akira
2. Alucard
3. Gray Fox
4. Isaac
5. Shadow the Hedgehog
6. Knuckles the Echidna
7. Zero
8. Shovel Knight
9. Midna
10. Majora/Skull Kid (with The Moon acting as his Final Smash)
11. Samurai Goroh
12. Ashley
13. Waluigi
14. Rodin
15. Takamaru
16. Black Knight (We've yet to have an actual Fire Emblem antagonist)
17. Spring Man
18. Phosphora
19. Ghirahim
20. Knuckle Joe
21. Starfy
22. Lyn
23. Krystal
24. Guile
25. Hammer Bro (Hey, if Piranha Plant can be playable, why not the Hammer Bro?)
26. Elec Man
27. Jill
28. Sukapon
29. Dillon
30. Magnus
31. Barbara
32. Kat & Ana
33. Bomberman
34. Tiki
35. Chain Chomp (Odd choice, but if a Chain Chomp can be playable in a Mario Tennis game, why can't it do the same thing in Smash Bros?)