Apple Fanboy Tries Windows for a Week
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
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0:00 I don't have a desktop Mac at home
0:28 Windows is bloat city
4:49 PC laptops are actually good now
9:52 Lots of juice = lots of power
14:03 How is Windows after a week...? - Наука та технологія
"PowerToys Run" from Windows is a decent alternative to Mac's spotlight
PowerToys in general has a few great tools.. love it
was thinking about that. I literally use it all the time; it's the only way I launch apps now
I do like it as a "spotlight" for windows, but he said he didn't like any of the alternatives and I'm sure this was something he already tried. I use powertoys run and a lot of the time it can't find what I'm searching for on my computer, so I end up using the default windows search and it actually finds it there. They still need to work on powertoys run for it to be a true spotlight alternative, which is crazy because default spotlight isn't even as good as something like alfred
@@mattjofresame, so much more efficient
Yeah been using the powertoys search / run thing for a while - even set the hotkey to match macOS - Winkey+Space 😅
It's funny for me the apps are the reason I can't switch to macos. There are so many random professional applications that are ten years old and suck but are windows specific (for me it's mostly CAD and engineering apps). While there may be certain tools that aren't as good on windows like you said, the fact that windows is default in the business world means that there are so many random apps that don't exist for mac and likely never will since they're 30 years old.
This is the same for it. It also blows my mind how so much basic functionality is locked behind a paid app on macos. If you want to do something even more like fix the, in my opinion, awful dock in macos then it isn't just paid but a subscription. Like could we get things like app previews in the dock on macos? Or as Quinn said could we get a better file explorer? All of these require 3rd party apps on macos and generally want a subscription for them.
Thats the thing. Snazzy is listing out apps that aren't as good on Windows in his opinion but hasn't listed out anything critical in terms of you are out of a job if you can't run it. There are a ton of professional applications for Windows that you are literally f*cked if you couldn't run them. Not talking about a fancy calendar app that syncs things to your iwatch that makes life easier. Talking about certain engineering, data analytics, investing applications...etc. that are written a LONG time ago. Things that do not exist on MacOS. Remember folks, there's a reason why Windows such incredible legacy support whereas the Mac world they will break things and tell you to go pound sand.....Apple can do that because they don't have to worry about supporting the infrastructure of basically every company worldwide.
One of my favorite apps on Windows 11 is Adobe Photoshop... 7. Yup, the 20 year old app that runs perfectly on Windows 11. I purchased it in the late 90s and have had no reason to upgrade in that time. I'm not a PS power user...just do the occasional crop, sharpen, change contrast..etc. Windows 11 compatibility with older software is amazing.
@@chaosfenix In a lot of instances there's a free/open source tool for Mac as well, sometimes the same tool. But often times, there is ALSO a very polished, well engineered alternative on Mac that is a paid application. Generally more often than windows, and generally better made than commercial alternatives on Windows, this is hugely dependent on the task at hand though and it's undeniable that there's TONS of really specific applications that only exist on Windows.
@@Richmondthefish Cannot disagree with you there! For certain things the best experience is on Mac, but far fewer critical domain specific tools.
Windows management is the best thing about windows. It's ridiculous how I can't tell how many windows of a given app I have open on the mac
You can if you know the keyboard shortcut they never bother telling you or right click on the dock. I bloody love the hover preview thing in windows
That's why you just tap command+` and click until you end back up at the window you started at. hahahaha
@@snazzy it just works!
Control + DownArrow or swipe down with 3 fingers.
To be honest I have no idea why that would be important to know. I've been a Windows User for years, switched to Mac and don't miss anything
I laughed hard when Quinn tries to upload a file to website while simultaneously opening a a file exploerer to upload the file.
Tech Tip( Inspred by the GOAt Leenus): you can directly drag & drop the file from your open folder to the website drop window, skips the extra steps.
Yeah that was a pretty funny moment.
Same on mac, I don't know why he did that
Not every website supports it, so I can kinda understand it. IMO, this seems like a good feature that should be toggleable with the "MacOS" way being the default.
@@TheGalacticVoid If the website doesn't support it, quickest solution is to press CRTL + L to highlight then copy the file explorer address path, then click (Browse) upload button and paste the address path of the file, so the browse window finds the original file location easily.
Yeah I was confused as to why he would do that... His biggest complaint is he did something wrong.
As an avid Mac user I feel like you got this one 1000% backwards. The Mac app ecosystem is abysmal compared to what's available on Windows.
Thank you
true but i feel like mac apps in general are more high quality
Lol
Windows has more apps, Mac has better apps. Generally speaking. Things like Office and the Adobe stuff blow chunks on both platforms so we can ignore those.
@@ChudDin The problem is what they bring in polish, they lack in power user functionality.. in general. Just like Apple, they often assume what you're trying to do, hide advanced features and power tools (or just plain don't include them), and if (when) something goes wrong, they are infinitely harder to tear into, diagnose, and fix (if you even can). They FREQUENTLY use things like databases to store things rather than accessible things like .ini files or even the registry. Windows includes easy to use viewers for those things even for the nitty grittiest of tiny details, whereas editing a database takes software and knowledge you likely don't have unless you're a developer.
I like your balanced view on using Windows as a Mac poweruser. It's refreshing to see someone able to appreciate perks of either system!
Thanks!!!
advanced calendar and file uploading isn't power user.
@@imnutrak130 I'd argue needing something more than the default Calendar app is a power user thing, but then there's no set definition of what a "Power User" is. For most people, though, the default Apple/Outlook/Google Calendar offerings are more than sufficient.
@@imnutrak130 I’m a little lost on your refute
@@snazzy you're the only apple fanboy i can respect +1
Another tip for window management is to hold down the windows key and then click the arrow keys to position where on the screen you want the window
Good tip!
It's *not* stupid that Windows treats the Open/Save dialog window as a regular File Explorer window. It's actually great that you can use it for quick & dirty file management on the fly without having to resort to the full Eile Explorer app.
The reason the file picker dialog works like a file explorer window is because it's exactly that. You're supposed to drag n drop the file where the website... literally tells you to drag n drop the file to. When you asked "why would anyone want to do this", I had the same thought: why on earth would you ever do what you did there?
I was thinking the same. I think windows way makes more sense.🙃
The website isn't telling you to put the file in any specific location. That makes zero sense. It's simply asking you to locate the file.
exactly :D why even open the file explorer from the website if you just can drag and drop the file from the already open file explorer ... they way he did it, just makes no sense
because you can't rely on the web ui of a given website more than the built in upload tools of the browser. @@z3us89
also, the file selector in your browser should not be treated the same as your built in file explorer, it literally makes no sense lol.
I knew there was no way you'd try Windows unless it was sponsored content 🤣 0:15
it also drags on for 9 minutes halfway through the vid, thank god sponsorblock
@@stonefist sponsorblock is god tier
@@stonefist Nice, personally I use a nifty keyboard combo. It’s “CMD+W” and it closes the browser tab because I’m not about to sit through an ad. Time is finite. Our most valuable resource. Not about to sit thru a video with an enormous ad.
Take file and drag; This is something I hated about macos at first. I always just copy the path in windows, and paste it in the file picker. You get so fast at that that it's way faster than dragging a file and then clicking it to open it. It's one of the things I still miss, the copy/paste/editable path!
but are you aware, that you can directly drag & drop the file to the place that wanted the file?
Like if it's the browser, you can directly drag the file to the file input, and kapow, it works.
@@MeblIkea Only problem with that is when you don't get it in exactly the right place and it opens the file instead (especially when it opens in the same tab)
It's one of the things that appealed more to me. Universal drag and drop for anything. Not as speedy for a power user but incredibly simple and intuitive. Hell, I'd argue for speed nothing would beat performing file operations in a Linux terminal, but it's certainly not simple if you don't know what you're doing.
im a little confused why one wouldn't just drop the file into the site instead of using a file picker.. Im like... Never expected to use a filepicker unless I want to...
Exactly!!! There are so many straightforward ways to upload files in Windows that snazzy's method had me scratching my head like "why would anyone do that?"
I love it! I was the Windows guy that tried to go to MacOS and I'm the opposite of you. I actually like MacOS as a basic user, but when I get into my normal workflow, Windows just does the things I need to do and I'm always bumping up against those things in Mac that break the deal for me. I think it all stems around what you've considered normal for so many years and it's just hard to find your way around it switching for 7 days or even 30 days. It just doesn't convince you that it's actually doable! :) Great video!!
I'm the same, tried mac os twice as a daily driver, it was a bit of a learning curve at first and I get that, but in the end I found that Windows is just more efficient. And I really did try as I wanted to be a Mac guy lol
I am really glad you like file explorer. As someone who came from Windows to MacOS I find the MacOS family of apps file management the most aggrivating part of Mac and iPad ownership.
Agree.. I use both systems and if I need to do any serious/big file management tasks... moving and copying a large number of files across local & network folders... that's a Windows task 100% for me.
@@timothyjohns3561 I even use File Explorer for managing my photos, which entails a lot of files. I find the means by which it works to be easier than on a Mac. I even have the shell fix that came out for Win 8 and still works to enable the metadata info to be shown at the bottom of the Explorer window. Can users even do hacks like that for Macs? Somehow I don't imagine it would be allowed. I really wish MS would return that feature though. It was strange of them to remove it after Windows 7.
Because there is no true file management on iOS and to some extent macOS.. even something as simple as putting a photo, or god forbid a PDF on your phone from your computer is damn near impossible.. you can't organize anything via normal means like folders, instead apps have their own proprietary Albums or Tags, and literally EVERYTHING gets filtered into some unique-ass iPhone, or iTunes, DATABASE with a proprietary complex-ass format that (a) is impossible to manage when your grandma has imported 900GB of videos on her 1TB iMac, and (b) is bound to corrupt at some point leaving everything inaccessible and a scattered mess, instead of an easily-recoverable hard drive filesystem everyone is used to.
@@reanimationxp Just move the file to the iCloud Drive or airdrop ? It's the opposite I find it way harder to transfer files from my phone to my windows pc.
@@elali64hard? What do you mean? Connect the cable and open the folder that says 'camera roll' maybe? Try that on a Mac lol
Instead of dragging a file from a folder to the file picker, you can copy the folder path by clicking on the folder address, then copy (CTRL+C), paste the address in the file picker (CTRL+V) and press Enter. Navigating inside folders is actually much faster on Windows.
this is literally the most convoluted thing I've ever heard LOL
@@JulianGrayMedia It's not super straight forward from an enduser usability standpoint, but as a developer it's really nice to have direct access to paths that quickly. Though i can recommend Quick Access Popup whole heartedly. On the press of a button you will get either a menu to recent folders, folders you use often or a custom menu with user defined folders and apps. It also works in File selection dialogues and it saved me millions of clicks already.
A lot of your issues aren't actually issues. For example, Apple has an Apple Music app for Windows! You can just drag-drop files into the browser instead of opening a selector window!
Yeah his file selection complaint was odd. You can also copy the file path from one window to the other to go to the file.
It's kinda funny, I've been a lifelong Windows user, and it wasn't until I started making things semi-professionally that I got my first iPad, followed about a year later by a Mac Studio. When I need to sit down and do anything creative, the way MacOS and iPadOS play so nicely together is such an amazing addition to the workflow. I still use Windows just about every single day for casual use, but really only for gaming at this point.
I kinda hate to say it, but as soon as Apple can figure out a decent Proton-style compatibility layer for Apple silicon, I'm probably switching to it full time.
Here's hoping for a better gaming compatibility layer! That said, with the GPT and their push for native AAA games on iPhone, maybe stuff will start coming to the Mac via Metal like they've been wanting for 10+ years. lol but... doubt it
I really hope AAA games coming to iPhone is the door opener to AAA games running on Apple silicon! It’s LONG overdue and would make it so you can actually buy 1 Mac for EVERYTHING & not have to keep a gaming pc or console on hand for us gamers. It seems like a no brainer, gaming is such a huge industry & AAA games on Mac,iPads, iPhones, Apple TV all = more App Store revenue for apple and basically would kill the PC master race crowds major Mac grip “it cant game though”
@@snazzy I can't say AAA games will make moves, but I see indie games doing it. More and more capabilities out of the iPhone and Mac are slowly building up a platform for an excellent catalog of indie games. My 16" M1 Pro is a blast to play indie games on, especially with a controller. My Xbox Series controller works flawlessly in macOS and can even open LaunchPad with the guide button and launch apps. Additionally, the Bluetooth menu shows the battery life and allows me to click the controller to power it off. The most handy thing I found playing games on Mac is asking Siri to do things on the fly. I got lost in a game the other day and asked Siri what the time was and it opened in it's dedicated pop-out window, said what it needed to, then immediately switched back to my game's audio seamlessly and unobtrusively without me having to touch the keyboard or trackpad.
That's the most typical apple designer copium shit I've ever heard in my life.
Gaming is literally the only reason I use Windows at home. I have a beefy gaming rig and an iMac and MacBook Pro for everything else. The M3 in my MacBook Pro smashes the 5800X in my PC in both single and multithreaded performance, which is crazy, but the 4080 obviously absolutely destroys anything in the Macs. Which you'd kind of hope given it costs as much on its own and is literally bigger than the MacBook Pro. Also consumes orders of magnitude more power lol.
there's actually an official Apple Music app for Windows and it works quite well
Wait really I don’t have to use 10 year old version of iTunes
Nope@@JustinKreule
@@JustinKreule yepp, it's on the Windows App Store, it's still in preview and sadly it only runs on Windows 11. But from my experience it's pretty usable. You might need to Google search it, sometimes Windows refuses to show it in the Windows Store built-in search
Yeah, it's not that bad compared to iTunes, but for me it's not snappy enough to switch. I think the only positive compared to their new Cider 2 is lossless, which is counteracted by their audio processing stuff a little. But, it might have improved since I tried it like a month ago, until that, I stay with Cider 2.
Is it out of beta? Pog?
Having programs pinned to the taskbar isn’t bad in windows. Very useful if you use the win+1, win+2 etc hotkeys
This. Seriously underrated how good these shortcuts are. Especially in a workflow that requires a lot of pieces
Yeah, there is an app called Everything which is a universal file searcher for windows. It is leaps and bounds better than windows search, so I've put it in the first spot in the taskbar and everytim I want to search, I hit Win+1 and type away.
Wow, I've been missing out.
Quinn might be a very minority of people that need MacOS-only apps (I'm not counting Final Cut Pro, that makes things really easy) while there are tons of applications that I need that are only available in Windows (and Linux, yeah I know). If you work with BIM, CAD or pretty much any engineering software, Windows is a must.
chris titus' tool saved me so much time since I format my devices almost all the time. glad to see it getting popular
Noway that thing is worth 10 dollars.
Having been Windows only for a long time and getting into Macs a couple years ago, I sorta had the same experience as you in reverse. I found things I liked about MacOS over Windows, but still didn’t feel like MacOS was superior [nor that Windows was superior]. I use both pretty consistently now; MacBook Pro laptops, a Mac Mini, Windows laptops and desktops, iPhones and iPads along side Android devices… There is no perfect OS or platform as far as I’m concerned, they’re all good for different things and bad at different things.
In particular, you mentioned not having good equivalents for your Mac apps when going to Windows - I’ve found the same going from Windows to MacOS. Some programs I’ve used for a long time on Windows just don’t exist or have something similar for Mac.
In terms of Windows versions tho… 11 is HORRIBLE with the ads. Windows 10 had a couple game ads in the Start Menu that you could get rid of, and Spotify and Candy Crush as defaults, but 11 has WAY more stuff. Plus the menu is just a mess for me - I removed all the tiles in 10 so it’s just a clean list of applications. Not that I use that list, I typically hit the Windows key and just type the application I want and enter. One of my other gripes with 11 is that there’s EVEN MORE of the telemetrics gathering that you can’t turn off, and they seem determined to put ads EVERYWHERE. 10 may not be telemtrics free, but it’s not really much worse than MacOS.
Also I just think 11 is ugly as sin… And I don’t think MacOS is much prettier. 11 looks a lot like MacOS now, actually…
Yup, I hate that 11 looks like metro UI and Mac OS had a frankenstein baby
@@xelaander8429 yeah… bleh. I wish they’d just have the option of what type of interface you want. No one interface will make everyone happy
I mostly agree with you, but where do you see ads in Windows? I might have just turned everything off when I set up Win 11, but I just don't see any ads in Windows.
@@OLBastholm mostly on the Start menu, but sometimes Windows applications give pop up ads… although I was also on insider builds most of the time for testing, so maybe they scale back for the actual releases
I use W11 for almost a year and i havent seen a single ad yet.
This is like a follow up to your Windows 11 video. This kind of content format feels nice and good. This is what I subbed for....😊
Nice video - I recently got back into pc/ windows by building a desktop pc. Love using it and Windows got a lot better in the last decade
I love how Quinn can make a sponsored video interesting, offering value besides the ad!
Very true
Seriously? I'd argue that this channel used to be good before it turned into nonstop infomercials.
Really? I find the video shameless, click baity and devoid of any value.
He can, he just doesn’t 💀
Well, I find the opposite. I started watching the video eager to know his genuine experience only to discover some sponsorship-influenced comments along the line that just soured the enthusiasm I had for the video. I was rather disappointed!
Also, Windows is much better in multy monitor environment. You don’t need to do additional click when you move the cursor from one monitor to other.
YUP! I love Mac OS, and honestly after spending a few years also using a windows machine, it's literally the thing that now pisses me off the most about Mac OS
I'm currently on a mac connected to 2 external monitors. No clue what you mean about an additional click when moving between monitors.
@@PeterPeirce-pv3mm In windows, moving the mouse onto the app on the second screen immediately give is focus, rather than having to "activate" the window with a click
In macOS, you don't have to click to give the window focus to start interacting with it. It's exactly the same behavior as with a single monitor. You can interact with an unfocused window. Unless I'm deeply misunderstanding your point@@EightNineOne
@@PeterPeirce-pv3mm it’s subtle, but for example on windows if you move your cursor over to the other screen and start scrolling, it’ll work, on Mac OS you’d have to click first. Not saying it’s an issue as such, or something I ever noticed before spending a decent amount of time with windows, but when you go back and forth a lot of people end up preferring the windows way
Great video Quinn, I really value your opinion so this was cool to see what you thought about Windows. I'm a Mac OS guy myself because thats what I grew up using, my dad always had Macs so it was what I was comfortable with. I do like Windows too, they each have their pros and cons.
Your gripes with the Windows update manager are mostly because you didn't shell out for the Pro version... it gives you so much more control once you go from 'home' to 'pro'.
Exactly. I very rarely have trouble with updates. I choose when to download an update and that's when I reboot it (in the rare case that it actually has to reboot).
This is extortion
Locking most quality of life features behind a pricier "pro" version pisses me off to no end. Finding out that things like bitlocker and remote desktop not coming standard on Windows home was a rude awakening a few years ago.
You shouldn't have to. There also shouldn't be other versions of the OS, it should be the same for all users. Gating off features like that is just nickel and dining. They constantly push more and more features into the higher SKU's with each release too. Windows 11 took a bunch of pro features away from erm. Pro. And now only has them in Enterprise for example.
As a Windows user, the conclusion is completely opposite for me 😅 I've had to use mac os at work, and while it's usable after getting used to it, I honestly kinda hate it. Mostly for it's horrible window management, having to manually resize windows slows me down dramatically. Also, when you minimize an app in macos, it doesn't appear in mission control, what's up with that? It makes no sense. I thought the whole point of mission control and it's Windows/linux equivalent, was to be a quick and easy way to visually see all the apps you got open, but according to apple, I quess not.
I have/had the same experience. i use mac every now and then and always have this "but why???" feelling about it. I can use it and I know I could get used to it becoming fast and productive on it but most of the time I just suffer with some very small stupid issue like navigating in the stupid Finder or being confused about maximising/minimising a window. My favorite is when enter not opens a file but makes it rename. I guess they sat down to figure out which thing you might do more often open or rename a file and then they decided to make the more obvious use (enter) to the less obvious application (rename).
Now do the same for Linux, 1 week for using GNOME Desktop (with GTK applications) and 1 week with KDE Plasma (with QT applications).
I have seen macOS but my god there are so many missing features compared to most Linux/BSD DEs, Windows and even Haiku which is still in beta! (I am refering mostly to window management of course, like why is there no good out-of-the-box window tiling?
Also, at 20:01 you have to drag the file into the "File Name" textbox inside the file picker for this to work which I guess is slightly different to macOS...
macOS is in fact BSD btw I think the lack of features is a feature. KDE is amazing but too complex for 99.99% of the people, and if you are and advanced user you can do everything in macOS using third party tools. I mean, macOS is great compromise between simplicity and power.
@@net_news i think KDE is quite simple by default but powerful if you want it to be, but the settings app, it could be made easier for new users for sure
It's funny when people say he should do this for Linux, then almost every single person recommends an entirely different distro lol. This is both the strength and ultimate weakness of Linux ever becoming a mainstream desktop platform.
Surprised you haven't mentioned focus theft - when apps just pop up instead of staying behind (especially happens when you open a couple at same moment)
This pisses me off daily on mac. Its especially infuriating when watching something full screen. Something starts bouncing and all of a sudden my video is just gone... WTF did it go? I need to right click the app then 'show all windows' to get it back. No 489 of the 1000 things I hate about macOS.
14:34 This is actually an interesting point to raise, because as someone who switched back from Windows to Mac after 12 years, I ended up basically doing the exact opposite - I actually carefully organized and made extensive use of the Launchpad, while keeping the Dock to just my most-used apps.
True true, the dock is only for apps you use reguarly on a daily basis. :)
There is the Apple Music Preview client for Windows that I think works okay. It feels like a more updated version of the iTunes Windows client, except actually functions decently. It does have streamed FLAC support, which I love especially since I don't want to store that big of files on my iPhone and that AM defaults to the 256kbps I have downloaded
The does a really good job of highlighting the subtle but meaningful differences between the two OSs. Both the good and the bad, and your videos are always cool because they give a really fair shake.
You touched on something that seems under covered in the MacOS vs Windows debate which is Explorer vs Finder. I find that Windows Explorer is generally way better than Finder. Way less menus to hunt through, better naming of the context menus, better pinning filtering, and sorting. Even searching within a folder or set of directories is really good these days in Windows even if the OS wide search feature leaves something to be desired. Plus the snapping of windows is something I'm surprised Apple still hasn't outright copied or put a their own first party twist on.
My work computer is a 2019 MacBook Pro but my personal computers are all Windows. There are things I really love and hate about both OSs but the massive gulf between the feature sets and functionality of their file and window managers and interaction is night and day if you go between the two often. Obviously Windows Explorer has its quarks nothing is perfect but it just feels a lot more intuitive and full featured.
This. I cannot believe how bad finder and file picking on MacOS / iOS is. There are kids graduating today who weren't born when Windows first had better file management than Finder is today. It's severely neglected in MacOS and seems to have trained people to think 1 step processes are four steps with a four finger keyboard + mouse shortcut. I have used both OSes extensively on personal machines since 2011. Pains me every time I try and do something with files in MacOS. Still. Next Mac I get I'm going to get parallels just to get explorer on MacOS.
I might be the only person who actually loves using Stage Manager. As a software engineer who has loads of different programs open at once, it really helps me keep on top of everything to be able to pull up a single application or a small group of applications one at a time - but I do understand why some people think it's dumb 😅
Why use the word “actually”, fluff?
@@mavfan1 In English, 'actually' can be used for emphasis when something is surprising.
Not a lot of people, Quinn included, like using Stage Manager - as he mentions in the video.
I, on the other hand, *actually* do! Therefore, I used 'actually'.
I hope this helps 😊
Found your UA-cam channel and I love it!!! Keep the GREAT CONTENT COMING!!!!
This is the longest laptop commercial I’ve seen in a while haha
19:50 Drag the file right on to the browser window. Don't click the file selection button first. So it's actually easier than on the Mac.
When you were talking about debloating Windows, I was hoping you'd mention the tool from Chris, an excellent piece of software!
i can't tell if you are being sarcastic!?
@@Gimli8621 no it's just a really serious comment. He was hoping to see Chris' tool make an appearance and he's glad it did.
@@Gimli8621 I wasn't being sarcastic, Chris' debloat tool is incredibly useful and I'm happy it's getting more exposure so people can learn about it.
Thanks, I'll have to look into that, though I tend to just do fresh reinstalls when on a new machine so at least a lot of that (thanks MSI) isn't preloaded.
They have Apple Music for Windows now, it's not perfect but it's been working well for me most of the time. I have to use Windows for work... basically just to get to mine Linux systems but use my Mac for almost everything but gaming. Hopefully one day I only use Mac at home but just not that yet :( Great review, didn't know about the clipboard feature!
For 19:30 you can drag the file directly on to the website. Hope this helps.
Would love to see a video like this for Linux. Something like Endeavour OS or KDE Neon should work nicely
Neon was never intended to be used as a daily driver. More for KDE testing. Also, that's the problem when it comes to linux. People are all gonna recommend the favourite distros. There is no perfect option other than the one that works for you. I was always a Manjaro guy myself.
@@j800r_aswell sure KDE neon is used for testing but it is based on Ubuntu LTS so It works quite well, not the best out there, but a great option non the less.
No body cares about Linux. Is too complicated for the majority of people
@@j800r_aswell1) Manjaro isn’t great.
2) Mint is fine, but only if you’re on hardware that is older than about 6 years old.
3) Endeavour is great, but it comes with all the pitfalls of the AUR
4) Haven’t uses zorin, but it seems to be alright.
5) Kubuntu is fine.
6) Ubuntu is probably the best distro for new users, despite snapd and all its other flaws.
linux is crap bro lol. Tinker toy without software or hardware support. Pointless.
one of my biiig reasons why i like windows is backwards compatibily, some apps form the 90 ties just run no problem. that can be a godsend.
Excellent video! It would be great to watch a video about the apps you use. I've never heard of Raycast and am curious about which email client you use!
I will keep this in mind. Thanks so much for the Super Thanks!!
Are there any difference in performance depending on the laptop is plugged in to power or it runs on battery?
With the file dragging thing, you can drag the file into the "file name" text box and it'll select it instead of moving it
Wait are you serious? All this time…
19:42 This makes no sense. Why are you opening the "open file" explorer window when you can drag the file directly into the application from the explorer window you already have open? This isn't an issue - you're just taking an extra step you don't need to take.
Seeing Chris’s video on the development of his ToolKit it’s awesome to see in the wild!
It's funny to hear you talk about the app ecosystem, since when I tried to use Mac OS in the past I've had the exact opposite problem with none of my small clever apps being on mac os. 😂
Then there's the complete silliness of drive letters in Windows. It's always fun when you edit TV Shows from four different drives, and they all get completely different letters on a different PC, and you have to relink everything.
Can honestly say I've never once had a single issue derived from drive letters, but ok!
And Mac is better how exactly? Because it mounts them through host name? You know you can do that on Windows too, right? And you can also change the assigned drive letter
@@dustojnikhummer You don't need to change the drive letter though on Mac or Linux. A lot of older software is written to assume C is being used on Windows too (or just bad, newer software). There are literally apps that won't work unless they're on C.
Windows just seems really logical to me compared to macOS - to start stuff you go to the Start menu and not a random folder in Finder or the dock or Launch pad. To look at running stuff you go to the task bar and not a tiny dot under icons on the dock. The close button actually closes apps instead of a weird minimise! The maximise button actually maximises instead of a random fullscreen mode! And obviously, that Window management. The touch gestures in 11 is great too
I like the little touches macOS has like text correction and file preview, but man the basics just feels so random
Except some apps can override the close button. Steam discord, Skype etc they all hide themselves. Which tbh, for is a preferable for most of them
@@dustojnikhummer Although in the case of most of them, its a background task that can be closed quickly in task manager if it really bothers you
Mac OS has always done these things. Windows was the outlier doing things differently when it came along. A lot of older software still works more like the Apple way on Windows too, like the Adobe stuff. You open the app then the files, then close them before quitting the app. Office worked like this for a long time too (and still does technically) as they originated on the Mac. You're just used to the Windows way which most people are. There's a mixture of both methods in both OS's depending on the app. It's more consistent on the Mac but not 100%. It's a lot more varied on Windows.
You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the X86, not join them, bring balance to the Tech, not leave it in darkness.
As a sysadmin who prefers Mac but stuck with Windows, you nailed it. Chris Titus Tech is a fantastic channel! Super glad to see the shoutout! I’ve been using his tool for a while.
Sys admin here and other way around. I could work without Total Commander. The app ecosystem goes in both ways.
I am amazed that even as a Mac user, Quinn recommends so many useful tools for Windows. Thanks for it.
I wish he made a video about best Windows power tools and utilities.
I’ll throw one into the mix: Start11 ! It costs $5 and totally transforms the start menu + the taskbar. You can get rid of the Recommended section, add transparency, custom backgrounds, even go back to the old vista/7, XP, or 10 start menu if you want 😉 I’ve been using it for almost a year and it has never glitched on me, on 3 different computers. Practically a native application for me at this point (and no, Stardock is not paying me to say these things 😂).
Also, the (free) Quick Look tool from the Microsoft store, adds space bar Preview functionality to windows just like MacOS!
Power Toys is a MUST for windows, Quinn... you definitely need to try it next time. I can't use windows without it
can't live without
I've never needed it
while you are draging a file to another folder
hold CTRL for copying the file
hold SHIFT for moving the file
hold ALT for creating shortcut
Yo! I love seeing CTT in the wild! Chris is amazing and that tool has gone through a lot of changes.
0:36 - I wonder if that's an American thing with Windows. I'm european & having installed the 'N' version of Win 10, I had no such random garbage in the start menu bar something like Spotify (I think)
Windows 11 is actually far worse than 10 in the bloatware department. They maybe just make it seem like it's supposed to be there?
Great video, I haven’t used CTT before but will absolutely make it part of my PC routine at home.
I’m Mac at work and PC at home.
The funny thing is my first step on any computer is install and set Edge as default and log in to my work and personal profiles. It is by far my favorite browser, but mainly because it is Chrome without Google and I use/prefer M365 for everything. I also try to only rely on software that works on macOS and Windows (1Password, Edge, M365, Amazon Music, etc.), so I’m not missing anything critical when I switch between them. I still prefer macOS hardware, but try be just as productive regardless of which laptop I have each day.
Great video, appreciate the time spent and the content! I do think you missed the opportunity to share the experience of the connectivity of windows with Android (especially Samsung devices). its quite awesome - shared copy paste, drag and drop photos, control smartphone from the pc etc.
One thing I love about my windows laptop as another Mac fanboy is the Ethernet port. I use it a LOT and think it’s really annoying I have to use a dongle to get wired internet into my Mac still. They brought HDMI back thankfully tho
This is also a thing on the majority of newer higher end Windows laptops because they're too thin to fit the port on them. It's not really a Windows vs Mac thing. WiFi is also pretty damn good these days for most uses. For the niche uses that's why we have the dongles.
@@TalesOfWar I guess if you’re getting something that doesn’t have a dedicated beefy graphics card it’s gonna be thin. Anything with a 4070 or higher in the laptop is gonna be a thick boy. My Sager pc laptop was $3500 and it’s loaded to the tits. Fan is loud as fuck, power brick is huge and it’s a heavy bitch. I don’t care tho cause what I do for a living (live concert visuals) I need function over form, and it is insanely powerful. If you’re gonna buy a designer pc laptop that rivals a MacBook, yea sure, it’s probably too thin. But there a PLENTY of high end pc laptops that don’t sacrifice the thickness required for a Ethernet port.
Those little flip down Ethernet ports also exist and I see them on PC’s a bunch, even ones that aren’t thick. If my MacBook had that I would be so stoked. But Apple wants to make your choice wifi or dongle life only I guess
The bloatware is sometimes the manufactures fault (MSI in this case). Microsoft News in the widgets is a turn off though. Apple has their fair share of built in software and self-promotion of their own if I am being fair. I just built a new PC with Windows 11 and its kind of good compared to macOS. Macs will always be my primary device but WIndows 11 isn't that bad.
Quinn if you haven't covered Frameworks 16in with discrete GPU (I need to search your channel) curious to hear what you think on that one. They use AMD though when the point you bring up about NVIDIA's tech (like ray reconstruction, DLSS 3.5 etc) may afford something different but competitive to Macbooks. Note Apple did announce hardware accelerated ray-tracing and their own ML upscaling for the A17 Pro but it is indeed just the beginning for them in these areas.
I would even argue that Apple's bloatware can be even more annoying. I get that some applications are fundamental to how the operating system works but why can't I remove the maps app from my laptop? Thing doesn't even have a GPS in it. How about the AppleTV, Books, and Music apps? Facetime and Messages anyone? Stocks, News, Podcasts, and Siri. These are all garbage for me yet the best I can do is make a garbage folder for them.
@@chaosfenix Apple doesn't get enough flak for all that bloatware.
The widgets panel is really annoying. I'll agree. Its a good thing that I can disable it easily
Great video as usual. I liked the look at the laptop. So what if it is sponsored.
Is it a TN panel on that MSI? I think it looked kinda watered out in the clips you had it in your lap. How was that panel compared to a MacBooks ?
I used windows predominantly between 1997 and 2020. Then I loved the M1's performance so much that I bought an M1 air and then an M1 mini and ended up with an iphone and apple watch and an older iMac. I'm a pretty heavy user, mostly for audio/video/photo editing but I generally use my computers for all they are made for. My conclusion after some years of MacOS is that people who diss MacOS, don't know how it works. And people who diss Windows, don't know how it works. Also people who say Windows laptops are generally way slower/worse didn't spend Macbook money on a Windows laptop.
That being said, if I were now forced to make a choice, especially with Windows 11 (which is, still, so much worse than 10), I'd stick with MacOS. Though Windows has quite a few upsides, especially when it comes to freedom to do 'whatever you want' and FREE software (find a good free file recovery tool for MacOS for instance), I find the experience with MacOS so much smoother. And though I am completely fine reinstalling my Windows PC's once a year, the fact that I am still running my februari 2021 install of MacOS, spanned over two Mac Mini's (I went from a 256 to a 1TB model) and other than Magnet not autostarting for some reason, it's rock solid. So I'm happy about my switch, but I can definitely still easily live with Windows.
What's funny to me; Having had iPads (no competition), an still owning an apple watch (no competition), macbooks and macs (very pleasant) and an iPhone (perfectly fine), I find that the best selling of the bunch, the iPhone, is the least impressive when compared to its competition. Yes, it's a nice phone and yes, the ecosystem is great, but iOS or Android? No clear preference here.
Shift option command v for moving a file? Do YOU even know how a mac works? Worrying!
No shift! And this is somethign I love about MacOS. I usually am only sure what I want ot do with a a file when I get to its destination. It makes way more sense to choose move or copy there, rather than cut when you are still with the 'og' file location.
I feel the same about Android too! It's actually a pretty neat os, it's just that all the apps I use on my iphone aren't available there at all which kinda sucks tbh
Android is ruined because of bloated skins like Samsung's one UI and many of the cheaper phones with ads and other stuff. Pixel is perfect. Idk what apps android is missing tho
@@Haydos Samsung's one ui is actually really good the past few years. They're supporting their software more than google is tbh.
The problem with iphone apps is sometimes they are super buggy. They still dont support the Ipad properly and it's shocking despite how few apple devices there are.
@@Jst4vdeos that's good to know. I had a Samsung phone and it was a bad experience. Didn't ruin android for me
@@Jst4vdeos yeah that's bad. I have never used an iPhone so idk what it's like
It's normal to have stuff pinned to the taskbar. The concept of having all your heavily used apps in the taskbar has been a thing since the quick launch toolbar and tray menus from Windows XP 20+ years ago. The start menu is for secondary level apps.
FWIW, pinning apps to the taskbar rather than Start is something power users tend to do so no judgment there.
Love Mac. Do I always, always, always have a PC? Yup. To the point where I don't even care about the OS anymore. Windows, Mac, IOS, Android, Mint Linux. No prob.
I use all of them, so I hate all of them. Sometimes for something another OS does much better, sometimes for something they all do badly.
I've always been a child of windows ever since Windows 95. I switched to Mac for a few years on work computers...but recently moved back.
The window management just sucks on Mac. Yeah, I also used Magnet...but it's just not the same. I also think Windows Explorer is soooo much better than Finder. Just the simple way you can copy and paste folder path, is just way more convenient. Finder feels like an old piece of software.
I personally don't use a lot of dedicated apps. But I see your point of view. The app ecosystem on Mac is just pretty strong. You will find a lot of alternatives on Windows. Just not in the app store. You have to do the legwork yourself.
For my daily work there are no more apps that are exclusive to Windows or Mac...so it doesn't matter.
So, i'm happy, that I'm back in the Windows world after 6 years on a work Mac.
You can copy and paste the finder path on finder
For me it's the opposite, Windows just gotten tabbed explorer, drag and drop is far more universal on the Mac and Spotlight search is just far superior to windows search.
Win + V is a lifesaver at my office job-taking so many document numbers and copying and pasting them into our ERP system and calling back to them in emails… absolutely game changing
I think the most important aspect of which operating system you feel more at home on is the workflow and environment you're working in. As clichéd as it sounds - but as someone in the creative field, a Mac, especially the new ARM MacBook, is as much a standard as Windows workstations are for engineers. Things like PreRes workflows and photo editing on the move (referring to the great displays on the MBPs) are a boon compared to some Windows laptops. And finally, it's important to recognise that you can do almost anything on virtually any operating system. It's just that they have a flavour that is more suited to one task or another.
Another good thing about Windows is it's app compatibility. I routinely use an engineering program that hasn't been updated in a decade and is no longer on sale yet it runs perfectly fine. I'm on the other side of the fence from you as loads of engineering programs aren't availble on MacOS. MacOS always has a larger prescence on UA-cam due to the better creative/software eng apps which UA-camrs naturally use. Because of this, I feel that MacOS's issues don't get as much coverage. Thanks for this great video again.
For what you are talking about at 19:30, instead of clicking on the button for "select a file", you can instead drag the file onto that button, & it will immediately start the upload. Not exactly what your usual workflow is (dragging from one folder to another), but it's much closer imo
The title is wrong: Apple Fanboy tries a Windows laptop for a week, because his sponsor pays for it.
I've not used macos in a long long time. This was an interesting video as it pointed out the short comings of what I thought was superior, and they aren't small.
I remember using gnome and ubuntu in win7 era and it blew my mind with 3d virtual desktops. Probably still better than both windows and macos for a bunch of things.
Nice video! Honestly, the only thinks I dislike on macos is Finder... Windows Explorer is so much better for finding file and organisation. The only thing I really miss on W11 is the label function of the finder, very usefull
I don't know how to feel about this video.
It honestly feels like a glorified commercial of the laptop more than anything.
It is. He says as much at the start of the video.
Hi Quinn, have you tried Yabai, the window manager for macOS?
My favorite thing about this video is seeing Sweet Trip in your Recently Added when you open up Cider
Personally I have never had much of an issue with window management on the Mac. I like having many apps and windows open and I find it much easier to manually position windows. On Windows windows are generally more bloated with tool- and other bars and menus, and don’t work well in smaller sizes. Basically you want window snapping because Windows only works having at most 2 apps side by side on a screen, like a giant tablet.
Before I bought my 14" MBP I was *seriously* giving Windows a go. Windows 11 + Winget + PowerToys + Preview +a few other tools make Windows 11 a good experience. I even like the design of the OS more than MacOS sometimes!
That being said, the Mac App ecosystem is the real killer feature of macOS in my book. Paired with the efficiency of the M series processors in the mobile line. But yeah..you know how many times I can't find my personal Safari window because it's minimized to the dock and my Work profile Safari windows is open? Or the keyboard shortcuts? It's like playing twister with your hand!
If I wasn't an iPhone user and didn't care about the 'ecosystem' I would have went with a Framework 13 laptop and maybe a Series X or something for gaming needs.
no dont be a console person. get a gaming pc.
@@Blox117 I don't see a problem with consoles for casual gaming. Besides if price to performance is concerned, a console costs less then just the gpu.
When you drag and drop files from 1 window to the next, and they are in the same drive location (C or D or wherever) they will Cut Paste by default, you can hold Ctrl to create copies.
and it does Copy Paste if on different drives (C to D for example) you can hold Shift to move..
the page literally says drag and drop file here. if u are already dragging from another window.. just drag to the browser page section. why do you want to use the open window and then drag a file over there. The only time you would want to use the open window option for a website for file uploading is when it doesn't support drag and drop which then you can just navigate to the folder. if you already have the folder open and it is in a lot of different subfolder, copy the path, then paste to the open window box address bar. it will bring you there.
for spotlight/alfred like function, there is one under windows powertoy. not as good. but serviceable. I just use the windows search for most things. press windows key and type away
I have to say your points match mine as well, just coming from the other direction. Only had Windows devices and recently got a MacBook.
The most annoying thing on mac is definitely the lack of windows management and not being able to cut and paste.
But your point about not having an Alfred/Raycast alternative on windows, powertoys run has gotten pretty good. Sure it doesn't have everything Alfred and Raycast offers, but it can do atleast 80-90% of it well.
Can’t cut and paste? Cmd+C / Cmd+V
Hit delete for the stuff that’s highlighted.
You cut and paste by using Command + Option + V.
Rectangle app makes the window management the same.
As a lifelong Windows user, the first section about debloating and updates sounds a bit over exaggerated. The bloatware is more of a laptop manufacturer issue than Windows. Win10 in its early days had these issues, but after that there was enough control over updates and software. Win 11 has just made that control even better in most cases.
To add to your comment. I have never had apps reappeared like he mentioned. Although, tt happened to a family member because he wasn't logged into his Microsoft account, it was a local account.
@@Manuel-rl6um I use a local account and I haven't had anything reappear after updates
Nice to see a feature for Chris Titus Tech!
The thing about uplaoding from a web browser you dont need to open the window or click upload and then drag. You can quite simply and I dont know why you didnt try it. Drag the file directly on the website without opening the file manager for the upload.
Just went to the utter misery of setting up a windows laptop for my wife. Wish I knew about this tool. You have to work so hard to de-spam it.
I haven’t watched all of the video yet but I gotta say I really agreed when you said windows is a horrible OS for horrible people
hahahaha
That is my biggest grievance with windows and the main reason I prefer mac, yes people always tell me “you can disable bloat, you can get rid of this, you can block, tweak, etc” but I don’t want to I shouldn’t need to, why is it neccesary to have 3rd party tool that I have to run monthly or weekly just so windows doesn’t annoy me as much, and that coming from someone who uses windows on a daily basis, I know what to do and I know how to do it but why do I need to
@@iFix.You didn't watch the video did you
So you think say 80% of all people on this earth are horrible people? Your attitude needs improvement I guess.
@@snazzyReally? Laughing on such a stupid remark? Not you.
Do you think you'll do one of these for Linux?
says drop images here. Proceeds to drop into the file explorer and blames windows for it.
🐻 in mind I'm only a quarter into this video... some of these criticisms of windows simply aren't true. Never does it say it's just going to shutdown for an update, never do I need to run third party scripts to remove many of the Microsoft Store nonsense. I'm sure the rest of the video will at least be balanced, but it just doesn't seem right to make these claims - especially from the get go.
i don’t think he is saying it’s required to run 3rd party scripts but what he is saying is it makes the whole process much faster and more convenient. also the updates thing is definitely a thing of the past (used to be an issue) (sorry to respond 5 months late lol)
@@Twisty-Twist haha not to worry; perhaps I was more concerned with the inaccuracy of these points as a consequence of his lack of detail in addressing them - however, I do agree with you.
This is literally just a commercial guised as a video. I expect better from you Quinn
I mean, it’s not. He’s critical about aspects of the windows machine and represents its advantages pretty fairly
@@EightNineOnebro had a 5 minute shill
When I move to Windows I just miss the clipboard, keychain, and iCloud integrations with my iOS devices.
Thank you. Had to watch this piece as I have been a Windows user forever. Starting using Mac with the M1 for video editing of GoPro footage primarily with Apple Photos to trim video initially without having to render and this has been an amazing workflow productivity simplification solution. Using Apple Photos between MacBook Pro 16, iPad Pro 12.3 and iPhone Pro Max is fantastic. I do some simple work Final Cut Pro which had a very small learning curve for basic stuff. However, for work as an application developer I still need to use Windows as Outlook Desktop on Windows is so much better than the Mac Desktop version. Unfortunately I have too much email that needs to be managed (hate email). Outlook Web Browser version works better on Mac than the Mac Desktop version.
You can do that on windows also. You'll have to use a muxing software, as the process of trimming without rerendering is called. I'am an old software fart and am using avidemux. It's free and just works.
Crazy that it took me 17 minutes to realize this is basically an add, pretty ingenious to actually infuse it with useful information, but I still feel a bit queasy…
Mac is slower over time because Apple Updates intentionally slow it down on all their devices. Apple has to force its users to buy replacement devices somehow.
My longest lasting Windows laptop was purchased in 2010, and it has experienced Windows 7, 10, and Mint. It is currently a backup laptop, and I have gotten a new daily driver in 2024.
Nope, that’s a myth. Apple products also last incredibly long, so that’s also a myth. Used my MacBook for 10 years still felt fast when I replaced it.
@@jUQMtDmf You're a liar.
The .DS_Store files alone should make any power user completely ditch OSX. Are you kidding me? A bunch of junk files they keep adding to your drives. Every single file at some point gets a ghost metadata file that you send in flash drives, you send to web servers, you process while looping through all the files in a directory. It's just insane and beyond stupid. Why the hell would you do that? After all these years, they still haven't figured out a better alternative?
15:43 I’m sure some people already know it but you can open two instances of the same app in macOS, in the app use right click, show package contents, contents, MacOS, and execute the program. I’d be really useful to be able to just open another instance natively.
if you have to click 5 times to just open a second instance of an app, you've already lost. most things can be done in either os but the point is to not be frustrating. but both os's have their "uuuggghhhhh, why are you so stupid?" things.