I have to comment on your videos again since the difference in my game has been nothing short of a miracle just by watching all of your Turn, and Hip Rotation videos. I have been playing golf since 8, always been a long hitter (300+ when in College, etc) and had a 5 handicap at my best. Laid off from golf for 4 years due to a wrist injury and kind of "forgot" my swing. Now I am back and better than ever I believe. Yesterday at the range, I was hitting literal nuclear missiles with my 6 iron, Flying SUPER high (probably around 120-130 feet high) and extremely long with a 5-7 yard powerful draw, longest been around 215, and average being around 208. That's insane for me and my only swing thought? To Rotate my hips and chest as fast as possible in the backswing. This is nothing short of life-changing to me. I can finally feel what the pros feel at impact with their shots, no better feeling in life, everything else falls right into place with this swing thought. It automatically puts my finish position "tiger" and "rory" like, since the speed is so fast the club has nowhere to go but right to a super full finish. I feel I owe you $1,000 or maybe more.
Finally a golf instructor that explains the proper way to move the hips and shoulders through impact. Also separates the fact that you need to shallow the swing at the same time. I've done this and when you do it right you will never experience better contact and accuracy in your shots Thank you!
You have blown a lot of the old theories right out of the water. Your dedication to help us by teaching the correct movements in a simplified but detailed manner with no confusion whatsoever has paid dividends . I have spent a lot of money on conflicting lessons over the years that have failed me , leaving me a confused mess . Your lessons are very affective and really work . I would put you up there with the very best . Thanks a million Eric from a scottish golfer who lives near Carnoustie and St Andrews .
Just had a lightbulb moment in your video here Eric. I'm 40 years old now, played D1 golf in college, 2 time state champion, was a +2 handicap at one point....all those years of playing I never had the technically correct golf swing. I kept trying, but thru self analysis and mixed teachings from teachers, I ended up with a decent swing with good timing. I would try the 'shallow' golf club thing by trying to force it and even till a few minutes ago while trying to open my chest on the downswing and seeing I was coming over the top...I realized it's not a force thing, the shallowing actually makes sense to me when I look at it from an angle/perspective point of view. If the viewer is only focused on the angle of the club to the ball and not how much the body has turned (or tilted), the club may look 'shallow' to the club -> ball plane, but it isn't shallow, IMHO, the club is perfectly on line to how the body has turned and is tilted. If the plane of the hands and the club are maintained WITH the turn of the body, it stays perfectly on line..but IF you only worry about the shoulder/chest turn, then you are actually (unintentionally) forcing the club outside the correct plane and thus 'over the top'. If I try to think of the club + chest + shoulders as a singular movement during the transition, it is easier for me to feel the club is still on the correct plane as opposed to trying to control separate actions (turn shoulders, drop club/hands). I know I'm in the correct place (plane) because my right elbow is near my right hip. I don't know if any of this makes sense, just felt like I had to put my thoughts down in a comment.
Sounds like your on the right page....of course there are a lot of micro details involved here that I would need to see your (or someones) swing on video to confirm
The exact same misconception that i had. I used to think you need to open the hips but keep the upper body square to the target. Probably explains why i always struggled with blocks and hooks as well as thin shots. Tried the feel of pulling my left shoulder back during downswing and that appears to be helping a lot. Thanks for the great video
Exact thing I’ve been struggling with for a few months. Misses are always blocks and hooks. I know based on videos of my swing it’s due to lack of chest rotation. But for some reason I just cannot seem to get it moving through enough. Hips are always open but my shoulders are closed
Rotation is like location if you learn it you will be awesome! I have incorporated all your rotation feels in your other drills that I am doing. The immediate result is improving my solid contact, accuracy has gone up, and the most telling is DISTANCE gain . It's so unbelievable I just want to hit another and another. WOW! Thanks so much Eric you are the man!
This is my first time leaving a comment on any UA-cam video but I wanted to say I enjoy watching all of your videos and I even have a small diary size notebook that I take notes with on pretty much every video. That being said, although I completely understand the concept and the type of players it would definitely help, this is probably your most "controversial" video by far. Let me be clear, I am not saying whatsoever that this video is bad instruction but like other people commenting, I'd love to see you and M. Malaska have a professional conversation regarding this technique. Just as long as no one is trying to say one or the other is right or wrong. I enjoy watching and learning from both of you. Keep the videos coming and let me know how to come get some lessons from you in person. Thanks Eric.
Hey! Thanks for the comment and I completely understand where you are coming from. Here are some reference points we use for "stock" model swings of the body orientations Top of backswing Shoulders closed 90* Hips closed 45* Left arm parallel downswing Shoulders closed 45* Hips square to target Club parallel to ground in downswing Shoulders close to square Hips open 30* Impact Shoulders open 30* Hips open 40-45* Arms parallel to ground past impact Shoulders and hips same amount open So if we use this model..... 1. The hips start opening to start the downswing and get off the a lead 2. From about 1/2 way down the chest is catching up The point of this video is that a lot of people don't think the chest/shoulders are opening as much as they are and would be much better off opening them all right away and learning to shallow the club with that instead of keeping upper body closed and shallowing through lateral motion and/or tilting. Would gladly talk with Mike. Send me an email to ecogorno@yahoo.com
I used to hold my shoulders closed, shallow the club, and rotate my hips. It’s a recipe for fat shots. Rotating open too fast seemed like I would come over the top. I don’t, the ball starts right and draws. Excellent lesson. I don’t know why teachers are obsessed with being square at impact when no tour players are square at impact.
Your videos are great. I have watched many different instructors and you and Malaska are my favorites. You have a very easy way to explain the different types of set ups and shots.
Gday ... Fantastica Eric ... for so long I’ve been fighting the urge to open up ...prior to impact ... I have always thought and being told .. keep it sq at impact ... on the downswing hold shoulders back and swing the arms down ..... well after watching your vid last night I went out and concentrated on swinging open prior to impact ... wow wow wow 🤩 🤩 🤩... it as been a very long time since I hit it so pure ... I feel like an absolute fool all these years doing what I have been trying to do and you Eric have opened the door to happiness thank you thank you 😊 thank you so much ... one very happy golfer right now too eternity thanks mate cheers
In one of your prior videos explaining how to try and turn my right foot (right handed golfer) from 12 to 3 dropped my handicap by 7 strokes in my last tourney, and its continued to drop this month. This lesson for those of you out there is BY FAR AND AWAY the hardest lesson to learn. Let me repeat this; it is the hardest change because of how we have been taught by other pros, and we are TURNING and opening which is equally difficult to change. I've been trying for 4 days and over 1500 balls and it works, its hard, and you would think that you will pull the ball, NOT SO! If you happen to pull the ball, you will get instant feedback as to why. I dont swing as hard either, it feels like I am using my big muscles. Thank you Eric!!!!!
Love to hear of the progress, Edward! Agreed. Its key to open the chest/shoulders a bunch....but want to make sure it doesnt get too open to early. Want to be closed about 45* by left arm parallel (1/2 way down) and THEN the chest/shoulders will turn more than the hips!
eric, this worked instantly at the range the other day combined with the left arm supination move. i was really croakin them, a lot more distance. no range work today cause it's wicked cold up here in the boston area today and the heated outdoor range is closed. guess i'll go bowling instead today, i'm retired and have time to work on this stuff. thnx for the help, steve.
An excellent, well-researched, detailed, and concisely presented video. The Protraction/Retraction and side bend explanations are BEEF! I know you like Kelvin, I have devoted HOURS reading his articles, they are extraordinary, but I find it hard to digest that humongous amount of information. Man, you make understanding him EASY!
Awesome lesson, thanks Eric...the chest rotation move naturally creates the chain of events that combined produces a solid strike. All the other insignificant moves fall into place with the proper chest movement. Much mahalos from Oahu, HI
This is a great video lesson if your struggling with power, speed and release. For me, if you’re in the right position at the top of your backswing getting your chest and shoulders facing the target as fast as you can is a really good piece of your game to work on. It has helped me a lot!
Thanks, Bob! This is great for those who get too closed These would be our normal checkpoints Really this chest opening a lot is best after about the first foot of the downswing ua-cam.com/video/bScRl_O6UUo/v-deo.html
Hi Eric.lesson was great.I have practiced it on driving range and the result is just awsome.All these yrs I have been swinging on a flat plane and more horizontal..Now my shoulders are more vertical and ball flight path and distance has improved..Tks mate...
Aha moment at 5:42 in the video - i never thought about the order of the downswing like that - essentially you are saying the body should turn open before the hands swing down and through? A feel of "turn then swing", maybe? This video is excellent - has me thinking for sure!
I think thats the general idea...not correct for EVERYONE....but for someone looking to get more open, yes! Talk about that more here: ua-cam.com/video/CvAN608kqz0/v-deo.html
@@CogornoGolf - thanks for the 2nd video link - that explains it! I think there is a misconception (at least for me) that you arms need to get down sooner than body so you dont get "stuck" - but that's not really accurate for me at least. Hands before shift/turn w/closed face = pulls/hooks all day. Thanks much!
I’ve played golf for 52 years the wrong way. It’s not too late for me so watching and doing the repetitions to make changes is making my golf pleasurable again and more consistent. Thank you Eric 👊
Great great lesson always.i was always trying to keep close shoulders before impact however after when i learned how to initiate lower body now i can completely understand whole body opening.
This is a great piece of instruction that works! If you want to get solid contact with the ball and hit it straight then rotating the chest is the key. It was for me. I thought my shoulders were rotating and all that was really going on is that my shoulders were protracting and retracting mostly and my chest was lagging behind which was causing inconsistent ball contact and flight. Only recently have I noticed anyone talking about shoulder retraction and protraction in relation to chest rotation. No one ever talked about this concept when I was learning golf.
Very well explained and indeed most teachings are still about opening the hips to the left and keeping the shoulders “late” or “shut”, which sends the club on an outward path (what Malaska fights too) and results in poor shots and a painful back. Thx Eric.
Great video ! I am working exactly on bringing my right shoulder forward during the down swing because I historically get stuck with my shoulder and weight staying too far back. Thanks !
Watched your video and went out and shot a 83 from the white tee's (I'm 73). Unbelievable as I hit straighter and longer with irons and woods than the last four years. Thanks...Steve
Great video Eric...thank you for the content! IMO, most golfers (including myself) sorely underestimate the importance of turning the chest towards the target. Before I understood this concept, I had a lot of trouble with solid contact, two-way misses, etc. In short, it can cause a ton of problems. I think a great follow-up video to this would be to explain the basic physics behind why this is so important. For those that don’t know, it is virtually impossible to stop the clubhead in the downswing. As dictated by physics, the clubhead simply has too much mass and momentum for you to stop it. Therefore, if you stop your shoulders from turning, you HAVE TO FLIP the golf club...there is no way around it. There are virtually unlimited variations of what can go wrong because of prematurely stopping the shoulder turn. I’ll leave the rest up to you! Thanks again Eric - Chris
At age 50, I am fairly new to golf and I am right now at the start of a 6 lesson plan. The first thing the teacher noticed was that I was all upper body and I was not rotating nearly enough in either back or forward swing. It has been a very strange feeling for me to not only use my lower body but to unwind and keep my hands back! This video helped me gain another perspective on what I'm trying to do, let's hope it helps! Thanks!
GAnkas just sent me a voice message telling me he would like to see my chest more open and eyes up at impact but everything else looks good. You covered both on one video. This is UA-cam gold lol. Thanks Eric 👍
Eric, Fantastic video and advice! "Opening Everything" is the most enlightening phrase in golf I have ever heard. I have been hitting golf balls in the driving range for 30 years trying everything by holding my right shoulder back, trying all kinds of manipulation, adjustments but keeping my right shoulder closed resulted in varying degrees of success that never was consistently repetitive enough. I have not tried out your advice yet but I am going to do it today and am very sure it will work." Opening Everything" is the key word ,and not holding the right shoulder back is another essential I believe. From today onwards my mantra shall be "Opening Everything". No golfing coach ever said that! It belongs to you. Trademark it!
Eric, just for your info, I am not called the "Driving Range Pro" for nothing. I spent 95 - 97 % of my time in golf hitting golf balls in the driving range with only 3 - 5 % playing golf for the last 30 years.I will hit anywhere from 300 -600 balls per session. Many years ago, I hit a thousand balls a day for a period of time trying all kinds of swing and "manipulations".I am eagerly looking forward to try out your advice later this evening. I stopped going to the pros because I was not getting results from them and then embarked on a long journey of self-learning without much success. My experience with the coaches and observation of other golfers' experience with golf coaches led me to conclude and come up with the phrase - "Golf cannot be taught. It can only be learnt". You have given me good reasons to reconsider this belief.
I agree! I've played golf most of my life and have seen a lot of instruction, private and video. This has been the best "common man's" instructions. Now my question....How do I stop hooking the driver and longer clubs by opening up so much? I also don't take divots anymore and would love to get a one on one lesson.
Hey Kevin! Appreciate the kind words! I would have to see a video of your swing to say for sure....would have to see why you are hooking in the first place to say how to fix..
@@CogornoGolf You're welcome! I've worked in golf and given some simple instruction. Instruction is one of the hardest things to get different levels to understand. You have to be able to adjust how you explain what you want your student to do, you make it simple for all levels. I'll work on getting a video. Thanks!
I tried this past weekend to really let my upper body rotation pretty much determine how much speed I had through impact and beyond. It seemed as long as I let everything rotate as fast as possible, for me anyway it felt like the arms and hands were the last things to get to the ball. Maybe that is what the proper sequence is supposed to feel like because there were plenty of good shots that followed. Thanks for another great video…
Thanks that was very helpful. Have been struggling with this for a while, I kept hollowing my back on impact instead of rotating through... Only noticed that after a video analysis of my swing. Anyway I'm going to give your advice a try on the range. Cheers!
As a pretty good golfer I loved the way you talked in the video regardless of it’s actually right. The way you talked would give me complete trust in what you’re saying
oh my god...video by video..im telling you that you're really giving a hell lots of information about the golf swing...just by seeing your video i already can understand better about the golf swing..i can't imagine if i had the chance to have a lesson with you, i think i would have improve way way better
Awesome. Everything you say makes perfect sense. However, having the chest open while arms remain behind is very tricky to do. One drill to consider is to have someone place an alignment stick across your arms at top of swing and try to keep the stick on your arms for as long as possible to slow the arms down. Any other drills that you can recommend to slow arms ?
Love the video ,are we opening the shoulder and hip together as quickly as possible or is the chest opening the hips naturally or do you feel the hips and chest together kind regards
Great video, Eric. For a lot of years I followed the whole “keep your back towards the target as long as possible” and “fire your hands/arms first and body will follow” thought but that always led to the early extension. I think the pros show us that rotation from the start of downswing is the key. Thoughts?
Thanks! The TIMING is important...I lay things out more specifically below ua-cam.com/video/ULy3gQuw88Q/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/bScRl_O6UUo/v-deo.html
Great video and tremendous swing AS ALWAYS!. Although it has taken me decades to learn these things, I agree with everything you said in this video ... except, don't you want to feel that your hips are rotating slightly ahead of the rotation of your shoulders? When your entire upper body drops down slightly at the beginning of the downswing and your hands swing away from the target for just a brief moment, these moves delay the unwinding of the shoulders and cause the shoulders to rotate slightly behind the rotation of the hips in my opinion. If I maintain the proper spine angle, and my hips lead the way, my shoulders seem to follow nicely. I like feeling the hips, shoulders, hands, and clubhead are rotating and swinging through contact in this order. You disagree? I Just read the explanation you gave to one of the other comments. I would say that even though the hips rotate less, they still have to lead the way for two reasons: the hips, in my opinion, definitely rotate open but stop just before contact, and if the shoulders rotate too quickly, they will catch up to to the hips too quickly. (I admit our difference of opinion may be too subtle to be of any significance as long as the hips can somehow reach around 45° open at contact, as you mentioned.)
We're on the same page! Of course the questions here are what will someone need to FEEL vs what is really happening. Too many people trying to keep torso closed and only open hips so I was trying to drive a point home!
@@CogornoGolf "Too many people," including me for a long time. I now understand and AGREE with everything in your video. Your ability to express in words movements that can be complicated and subtle is outstanding. You're a very smart golfer. I will continue to watch your videos regularly!
Great looking swing. The thing is, what I see is very different from what you describe. You may be wanting to feel like you opening your shoulders and hips very quickly but impact, you chest/shoulders are only slightly open to your target line. So I certainly agree that once the downswing begins by beginning the weight shift to the left foot (heel), the hands have begun to drop to shallow out the club and the hips have begun to rotate toward the target, the shoulders should rotate quickly but smoothly for power and consistency.
@@CogornoGolf Thanks for the reply. Thanks for clarifying. I know for many years I was trying to do just what you described (rotating hips and shoulders immediate from the top of the backswing) which caused me to do all kinds of bad things like getting trapped inside, not being able to square the clubface, and casting. Of course I only had half (or less) of the story. It was actually only recently that I learned to delay that rotation until I started my weight shift and my hands started to drop. Now I can fire my hips and shoulders as fast as I want with great consistency and control because I'm in the proper position. Power is now effortless which also means consistency. Still not a really big hitter but my driver clubhead speed has increased from around 85 to 105 in the last year (been playing 27years). And I love it when I hear teachers like you confirming the things that I have recently discovered. And I don't have to take ibuprofen and muscle relaxers before I play just to be able to finish a round. Golf is fun again. Roland
Eric, I must compliment you on your approach to identifying the action, form and timing of the upper body. I worked specifically on your maxim to "open up the shoulders and chest as quickly as possible from the start of the transition". I realize this doesn't apply to all golfers but it certainly resulted in creating more clubhead speed, accuracy and ball compression for me. I've been mentally stuck for years with the concept of keeping my back to the target on the downswing in order to avoid coming over the top... all that usually resulted were thin shots, hollow contact and a decrease in distance as I flipped through impact due to my limited rotation through the ball. THANKS MUCH for your aggressive philosophy related to encouraging a powerful rotation throughout the downswing. Cheers, Ned
Appreciate it Ned! Hope it helps moving forward. The key really is for chest/shoulders to be 45* closed by left arm parallel (so hips get a little head start then chest/shoulders take over) ua-cam.com/video/bScRl_O6UUo/v-deo.html
@@CogornoGolf Hi Eric, Thanks for the reply. I was lucky to have a teacher in my youth (Art Ashton), back in the 1970s in Los Angeles, that actually learned how to teach from the great Tommy Armour back in the 1940s. He spent two weeks watching Armour with students from sun up to sun down in Florida (He gave Armour his life savings of $200 for the privilege.). I was fortunate to receive so such incredible wisdom at an early age (Ashton would tell me that there were only 2 people at the time that truly knew the golf swing - Tommy Armour and Bobby Jones; Hogan and the rest didn't know what they were talking about).. Much of your approach reminds me of those lessons. The next area of concern regarding my swing is increasing my shoulder turn -- I can get the turn with drills but for some reason I seem to abbreviate my backswing once a ball is in front of me (a bit ball bound I suppose). I'm 63 years of age with a 5 hdcp, but determined to get down to a 2 or 3 despite the lack youthful power that I once had. I'm 6 foot 5 inches tall, so there's still a good arc size to work with. Anyway, looking forward a a possible video lesson in the near future. Keep up the good work. And, as a TV Director and Filmmaker, I compliment you, also, on your video production values. Excellent job! All the best, Ned
Another excellent video I also found when I do this in the takeaway rotating my torso in the takeaway and downswing that's what works for me is that good to do ?
Glad I saw this video. Tired of trying to keep my back against the target during the downswing as I was taught before. If you’re opening your chest early though and trying to leave your hands behind, why do I sometimes hit it fat and my impact is behind the ball? Is there such a thing as leaving the hands too far behind and getting dumped under? Or is it more of a weight shift issue and I have to move my trail leg forward and it has nothing to do with the hands being behind?
Hey buddy! Of course there are answers to all of these questions but they NEED to be SPECIFIC to YOU and what YOUI are doing. I have to see your swing to answer those questions....good news is you can post them in our group and get all of this answered :) See you there
Perhaps the new smashing style of golf, the drag the handle restriction is suitable to the short swing but it’s not great for tempo. Look at Spieth with his shortened swing the last 2 days.
I've watched a lot of your videos. I wish you where in the STL area giving lessons. I'm just starting out and this is one of the things I'm having trouble with, along with making good contact. Switched instructors and he kind of went over this same thing today. You happen to have any drills through this? Enjoy your videos though!
Hey Brian! Maybe I'll be down that way one day! Yes...tons of drills....search my name and rotation or upper body feels....also we have a rotation masterclass that goes through everything thoroughly....you kind find link for that in descriptions of any of our rotation videos
Great video as always, I feel like this drill will help me, I have good strike, and distance but come to far from the inside. Which is leading me to hight draw or push shots with not much divert. Would you agree this will help me get my club path more on the right line ??
Yes! I would need to see your swing to say for sure (www.cogornogolf.com) but in general if you are too under plane yes MORE rotation not less MAYBE could be several things to fix really---some options ua-cam.com/video/BKrxVvyp0_A/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/HMWq-WZR-0k/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/DHDS1GlPxLg/v-deo.html
Great video Eric..I have tried the drill of rotating the head towards the target so as not even looking at the ball and most of the time have a fabulously clean strike…would you suggest trying to play this way or just as a drill ? Most teaching pros going way back seem to obsess about having eyes on the ball and watching the tour pros virtually all them are looking at the ball at impact.
Would be better than the opposite for most! I don't really teach anything per say to everyone. All depends on the other parts of the swing....some people will play better with this and others will keep the head more down, shoulders more tilted and square... A lot of that depends on the downswing swing plane.
I like your instructions, clear and they do make sense. I have a hard time trying to reconcile some of the things you teach vs Bobby Lopez, who is all about keeping the head behind the ball and not 'going offside'. He proposes that the 'hands win the race' on the downswing meaning the hands pass by the shirt-buttons on the way to the ball. What you're teaching is totally opposite, correct? I'm not meaning to criticize, just looking for clarification. FYI, I've tried Bobby's method and I still suck!
@Jason: Yes, I was about to use Larry Rinker (upper core) as an example. Use arms, wrists, hands and swing past your body, letting them drag your shoulders open. Credit to Eric for mentioning there are other approaches. I tend to find that Rinker's method is easier on my body, but that Eric's gives me more power. Being 69 with an arthritic back I may HAVE to use the former, but honestly I'd like to use the latter. Eric's explanations are clear and concise, and I still watch his videos.
Hi Eric, I love your method of instruction, presented in a manor the club golfer can understand. I have one question relating to body pivot, are you advocating not looking at the ball at impact or have I misunderstood?
Also by doing this it will prevent injury, anytime you resist any body part from naturally rotating you are asking for trouble. Great video Eric, the human anatomy is amazing when we let the brain control it naturally.
Hi Eric, always love your videos. question: I was taught a lot to lower right shoulder to avoid going over the top. To open my shoulder and chest as soon as possible, will that be a conflict to lowering the right shoulder to start the down swing? Hope you understand my question. Many thanks
Which is what I see that could happen. Your entire body rotating simultaneously could easily cause an over the top move. That's also a good point about the hands dropping to prevent over the top. It seems that it could cause an out to in swing, which could cause 2 misses. A slice, or a pull if your hands & arms aren't in sync, as well as a loss of distance due to a lack of coil resistance.
Good ball strikers rotate EVERYTHING....A LOT....and shallow their arms/hands/club. That's based on every 3D measurement report I've ever seen. I'm presenting this information to you guys not based on my opinion, but based on the current set of factual measurements that we have in 2018.
Eric Cogorno Golf Ha ha it’s bleeped out at around 6m 42s. It’s just funny to hear it. Keep up the great work. Opening up chest and hips while keeping shaft shallow is taking me a long time to master but I think it’s the key to getting me to scratch. This video is on high rotation for me 👍
Eric - I have purchased your closed coil system from Performance Golf - love the series. So in this video it seems to be saying your eyes are off the ball and looking toward the target at impact - is this true? Regards, Buck Younger
Hey Buck! this is good for people who stay CLOSED TOO long.... Closed coil is all about people who get too open too early Here are good checkpoints for how/when to open the shoulders/chest: ua-cam.com/video/bScRl_O6UUo/v-deo.html
Eric, I like everything here except I am not too sure about the taking your eyes off the ball. I will try it but my understanding is you should stay down and through. I have seen lots of videos of players and they all seem to be looking down where the ball use to be and not off the ball as fast as you would like. Again I will try it but that will take some getting used too. Thanks for the video
Thanks, Al! Appreciate you being with us! Only one way to find out....maybe not for everyone but keeping head down too long can cause more problems then looking at target sooner!
Hey there! Glad to hear it! Yes, the weight shift forward with the hips ideally starts around lead arm parallel in the backswing/P3 while the hips and shoulders are still rotating closed up to the top of the swing/P4. You may enjoy this video: ua-cam.com/video/bhZOWtgeD_w/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared Hope this helps! Let us know if you have any questions!
I have to comment on your videos again since the difference in my game has been nothing short of a miracle just by watching all of your Turn, and Hip Rotation videos. I have been playing golf since 8, always been a long hitter (300+ when in College, etc) and had a 5 handicap at my best. Laid off from golf for 4 years due to a wrist injury and kind of "forgot" my swing. Now I am back and better than ever I believe. Yesterday at the range, I was hitting literal nuclear missiles with my 6 iron, Flying SUPER high (probably around 120-130 feet high) and extremely long with a 5-7 yard powerful draw, longest been around 215, and average being around 208. That's insane for me and my only swing thought? To Rotate my hips and chest as fast as possible in the backswing. This is nothing short of life-changing to me. I can finally feel what the pros feel at impact with their shots, no better feeling in life, everything else falls right into place with this swing thought. It automatically puts my finish position "tiger" and "rory" like, since the speed is so fast the club has nowhere to go but right to a super full finish. I feel I owe you $1,000 or maybe more.
LOVE to hear that Heriberto! I'm super happy that the videos have helped and most importantly you are enjoying your golf again!!
Finally someone who can see and explain this stuff clearly. Superb analysis.
Appreciate it Simon.
Finally a golf instructor that explains the proper way to move the hips and shoulders through impact. Also separates the fact that you need to shallow the swing at the same time. I've done this and when you do it right you will never experience better contact and accuracy in your shots Thank you!
Thanks, Paul! Agreed on the ladder!
You have blown a lot of the old theories right out of the water. Your dedication to help us by teaching the correct movements in a simplified but detailed manner with no confusion whatsoever has paid dividends . I have spent a lot of money on conflicting lessons over the years that have failed me , leaving me a confused mess . Your lessons are very affective and really work . I would put you up there with the very best . Thanks a million Eric from a scottish golfer who lives near Carnoustie and St Andrews .
Thank you Joe! Appreciate the kind words my friend!
Just had a lightbulb moment in your video here Eric. I'm 40 years old now, played D1 golf in college, 2 time state champion, was a +2 handicap at one point....all those years of playing I never had the technically correct golf swing. I kept trying, but thru self analysis and mixed teachings from teachers, I ended up with a decent swing with good timing. I would try the 'shallow' golf club thing by trying to force it and even till a few minutes ago while trying to open my chest on the downswing and seeing I was coming over the top...I realized it's not a force thing, the shallowing actually makes sense to me when I look at it from an angle/perspective point of view. If the viewer is only focused on the angle of the club to the ball and not how much the body has turned (or tilted), the club may look 'shallow' to the club -> ball plane, but it isn't shallow, IMHO, the club is perfectly on line to how the body has turned and is tilted. If the plane of the hands and the club are maintained WITH the turn of the body, it stays perfectly on line..but IF you only worry about the shoulder/chest turn, then you are actually (unintentionally) forcing the club outside the correct plane and thus 'over the top'. If I try to think of the club + chest + shoulders as a singular movement during the transition, it is easier for me to feel the club is still on the correct plane as opposed to trying to control separate actions (turn shoulders, drop club/hands). I know I'm in the correct place (plane) because my right elbow is near my right hip. I don't know if any of this makes sense, just felt like I had to put my thoughts down in a comment.
Sounds like your on the right page....of course there are a lot of micro details involved here that I would need to see your (or someones) swing on video to confirm
This is probably the best lesson you have had
Thanks Richard!
The exact same misconception that i had. I used to think you need to open the hips but keep the upper body square to the target. Probably explains why i always struggled with blocks and hooks as well as thin shots. Tried the feel of pulling my left shoulder back during downswing and that appears to be helping a lot. Thanks for the great video
Excellent! My pleasure my friend..
Exact thing I’ve been struggling with for a few months. Misses are always blocks and hooks. I know based on videos of my swing it’s due to lack of chest rotation. But for some reason I just cannot seem to get it moving through enough. Hips are always open but my shoulders are closed
Rotation is like location if you learn it you will be awesome! I have incorporated all your rotation feels in your other drills that I am doing. The immediate result is improving my solid contact, accuracy has gone up, and the most telling is DISTANCE gain . It's so unbelievable I just want to hit another and another. WOW! Thanks so much Eric you are the man!
Appreciate it Bourne! Glad to hear the videos are helping!
This is my first time leaving a comment on any UA-cam video but I wanted to say I enjoy watching all of your videos and I even have a small diary size notebook that I take notes with on pretty much every video. That being said, although I completely understand the concept and the type of players it would definitely help, this is probably your most "controversial" video by far. Let me be clear, I am not saying whatsoever that this video is bad instruction but like other people commenting, I'd love to see you and M. Malaska have a professional conversation regarding this technique. Just as long as no one is trying to say one or the other is right or wrong. I enjoy watching and learning from both of you. Keep the videos coming and let me know how to come get some lessons from you in person. Thanks Eric.
Hey! Thanks for the comment and I completely understand where you are coming from. Here are some reference points we use for "stock" model swings of the body orientations
Top of backswing Shoulders closed 90* Hips closed 45*
Left arm parallel downswing Shoulders closed 45* Hips square to target
Club parallel to ground in downswing Shoulders close to square Hips open 30*
Impact Shoulders open 30* Hips open 40-45*
Arms parallel to ground past impact Shoulders and hips same amount open
So if we use this model.....
1. The hips start opening to start the downswing and get off the a lead
2. From about 1/2 way down the chest is catching up
The point of this video is that a lot of people don't think the chest/shoulders are opening as much as they are and would be much better off opening them all right away and learning to shallow the club with that instead of keeping upper body closed and shallowing through lateral motion and/or tilting.
Would gladly talk with Mike. Send me an email to ecogorno@yahoo.com
Wow what a clear and great way of getting someone to rotate can’t wait to try it
Thanks, Craig---hope it helps!
Mr Cogorno - that swing is silky smooth and the strikes are pure - a beauty!
Thank you sir!
I used to hold my shoulders closed, shallow the club, and rotate my hips. It’s a recipe for fat shots. Rotating open too fast seemed like I would come over the top. I don’t, the ball starts right and draws. Excellent lesson. I don’t know why teachers are obsessed with being square at impact when no tour players are square at impact.
Glad that helped my friend!
I've been watching golf videos for years and yours are the best on youtube. Thanks so much!
Appreciate it!
I like the swearing...that's the passion we all like from a good teacher. And maybe what a lot of pros need a bit more of.
:) The good old days
Your videos are great. I have watched many different instructors and you and Malaska are my favorites. You have a very easy way to explain the different types of set ups and shots.
Thanks, Robert! Appreciate it!
Gday ... Fantastica Eric ... for so long I’ve been fighting the urge to open up ...prior to impact ... I have always thought and being told .. keep it sq at impact ... on the downswing hold shoulders back and swing the arms down ..... well after watching your vid last night I went out and concentrated on swinging open prior to impact ... wow wow wow 🤩 🤩 🤩... it as been a very long time since I hit it so pure ... I feel like an absolute fool all these years doing what I have been trying to do and you Eric have opened the door to happiness thank you thank you 😊 thank you so much ... one very happy golfer right now too eternity thanks mate cheers
Glad to hear that my friend :)
In one of your prior videos explaining how to try and turn my right foot (right handed golfer) from 12 to 3 dropped my handicap by 7 strokes in my last tourney, and its continued to drop this month. This lesson for those of you out there is BY FAR AND AWAY the hardest lesson to learn. Let me repeat this; it is the hardest change because of how we have been taught by other pros, and we are TURNING and opening which is equally difficult to change. I've been trying for 4 days and over 1500 balls and it works, its hard, and you would think that you will pull the ball, NOT SO! If you happen to pull the ball, you will get instant feedback as to why. I dont swing as hard either, it feels like I am using my big muscles. Thank you Eric!!!!!
Love to hear of the progress, Edward!
Agreed. Its key to open the chest/shoulders a bunch....but want to make sure it doesnt get too open to early.
Want to be closed about 45* by left arm parallel (1/2 way down) and THEN the chest/shoulders will turn more than the hips!
eric, this worked instantly at the range the other day combined with the left arm supination move. i was really croakin them, a lot more distance. no range work today cause it's wicked cold up here in the boston area today and the heated outdoor range is closed. guess i'll go bowling instead today, i'm retired and have time to work on this stuff. thnx for the help, steve.
Good stuff! Happy yo hear that, keep me updated!
An excellent, well-researched, detailed, and concisely presented video. The Protraction/Retraction and side bend explanations are BEEF! I know you like Kelvin, I have devoted HOURS reading his articles, they are extraordinary, but I find it hard to digest that humongous amount of information. Man, you make understanding him EASY!
Thank you sir! Appreciate that...love Kelvin!
U r the best. My game has improved very much after watching this video.
Glad to hear that my friend!
Awesome lesson, thanks Eric...the chest rotation move naturally creates the chain of events that combined produces a solid strike. All the other insignificant moves fall into place with the proper chest movement. Much mahalos from Oahu, HI
Thank you, Patrick! Our pleasure!
This is a great video lesson if your struggling with power, speed and release. For me, if you’re in the right position at the top of your backswing getting your chest and shoulders facing the target as fast as you can is a really good piece of your game to work on. It has helped me a lot!
Thanks, Bob! This is great for those who get too closed
These would be our normal checkpoints
Really this chest opening a lot is best after about the first foot of the downswing
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Hi Eric.lesson was great.I have practiced it on driving range and the result is just awsome.All these yrs I have been swinging on a flat plane and more horizontal..Now my shoulders are more vertical and ball flight path and distance has improved..Tks mate...
Love to hear that my friend!
Aha moment at 5:42 in the video - i never thought about the order of the downswing like that - essentially you are saying the body should turn open before the hands swing down and through? A feel of "turn then swing", maybe? This video is excellent - has me thinking for sure!
I think thats the general idea...not correct for EVERYONE....but for someone looking to get more open, yes!
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@@CogornoGolf - thanks for the 2nd video link - that explains it! I think there is a misconception (at least for me) that you arms need to get down sooner than body so you dont get "stuck" - but that's not really accurate for me at least. Hands before shift/turn w/closed face = pulls/hooks all day. Thanks much!
I’ve played golf for 52 years the wrong way. It’s not too late for me so watching and doing the repetitions to make changes is making my golf pleasurable again and more consistent. Thank you Eric 👊
MY pleasure my friend!
Everything goes clear with this concept.
I mean eeeeeverything without any exception.
Great tip. Marvelous explanations.
How could I thank you.
Thanks, Kenneth! You just did :)
Great great lesson always.i was always trying to keep close shoulders before impact however after when i learned how to initiate lower body now i can completely understand whole body opening.
Appreciate it! Happy to help!
This is a great piece of instruction that works! If you want to get solid contact with the ball and hit it straight then rotating the chest is the key. It was for me. I thought my shoulders were rotating and all that was really going on is that my shoulders were protracting and retracting mostly and my chest was lagging behind which was causing inconsistent ball contact and flight. Only recently have I noticed anyone talking about shoulder retraction and protraction in relation to chest rotation. No one ever talked about this concept when I was learning golf.
Yessir! You are heading in the right direction it sounds like, Richard! Love it!
Very well explained and indeed most teachings are still about opening the hips to the left and keeping the shoulders “late” or “shut”, which sends the club on an outward path (what Malaska fights too) and results in poor shots and a painful back. Thx Eric.
Good players get open!
I especially like the well done graphics that flash on the screen - beautiful1
Thanks!
Excellent Sr. Very intuitive and simple
Appreciate it!
Very clear instructions and great videos, thanks Eric
Appreciate it!
Great video ! I am working exactly on bringing my right shoulder forward during the down swing because I historically get stuck with my shoulder and weight staying too far back. Thanks !
Thanks :)
Now, I know how hip - chest , rotation on core , then arms shoulder follow , shallow .., great drill.., thanks a lot..
Our pleasure!
Watched your video and went out and shot a 83 from the white tee's (I'm 73). Unbelievable as I hit straighter and longer with irons and woods than the last four years. Thanks...Steve
Love to hear that Paul! Hope it continues help!
Love it. Can't wait to put this lesson to use. Spring can't come fast enough.
Agreed :)
Hi Eric.great video Dr Nick
Thank you my friend! I hope you are well and enjoyed the holiday season! You have a great golfing season ahead of you!!
Great video Eric...thank you for the content! IMO, most golfers (including myself) sorely underestimate the importance of turning the chest towards the target. Before I understood this concept, I had a lot of trouble with solid contact, two-way misses, etc. In short, it can cause a ton of problems. I think a great follow-up video to this would be to explain the basic physics behind why this is so important. For those that don’t know, it is virtually impossible to stop the clubhead in the downswing. As dictated by physics, the clubhead simply has too much mass and momentum for you to stop it. Therefore, if you stop your shoulders from turning, you HAVE TO FLIP the golf club...there is no way around it. There are virtually unlimited variations of what can go wrong because of prematurely stopping the shoulder turn. I’ll leave the rest up to you! Thanks again Eric - Chris
Thanks, Chris! Appreciate the feedback-good comments and good idea!
Agree with you. Opening shoulders creates a forward shaft lean thats why.
For sure!
Great lesson
Thanks, Sam!
Great lesson Eric!! Feel and Real , exactly !! example .. Joey learning french from Feebie on Freinds..
Thanks, Jim!!
LEARNED MORE FROM THIS VIDEO THAN ANY OTHER, EVER.
Love to hear that!
Thank you
I hit it great today ..allowing myself to get shoulders open ASAP
Love it Robert! Our pleasure!
Honestly Eric, I think this is the best video you ever made... for me I mean.
Glad it helped my friend!
Perfect working on this hugh!! Iam so F in lazy with my follow thru after and at contact!!! Ty Eric always the best
You got it my friend!
Great leson, thanks you
My pleasure!
At age 50, I am fairly new to golf and I am right now at the start of a 6 lesson plan. The first thing the teacher noticed was that I was all upper body and I was not rotating nearly enough in either back or forward swing. It has been a very strange feeling for me to not only use my lower body but to unwind and keep my hands back! This video helped me gain another perspective on what I'm trying to do, let's hope it helps! Thanks!
Our pleasure! Hope it serves you well!
GAnkas just sent me a voice message telling me he would like to see my chest more open and eyes up at impact but everything else looks good. You covered both on one video. This is UA-cam gold lol. Thanks Eric 👍
Lol love it Roger....this is a perfect video for you then :)
This helped alot i tend to swing with my arms and my chest is behind. Subbed!
Glad to have you here!
Excellent! Thanks.
Thanks so much!
This guy is the best in the UA-cam golf lessons game
:)
excellent teaching. Subscribed
Thanks, Marcus. Appreciate it!
Eric,
Fantastic video and advice! "Opening Everything" is the most enlightening phrase in golf I have ever heard. I have been hitting golf balls in the driving range for 30 years trying everything by holding my right shoulder back, trying all kinds of manipulation, adjustments but keeping my right shoulder closed resulted in varying degrees of success that never was consistently repetitive enough. I have not tried out your advice yet but I am going to do it today and am very sure it will work." Opening Everything" is the key word ,and not holding the right shoulder back is another essential I believe. From today onwards my mantra shall be "Opening Everything". No golfing coach ever said that! It belongs to you. Trademark it!
Sorry, corrections. Right shoulder should read as left shoulder.
Eric, just for your info, I am not called the "Driving Range Pro" for nothing. I spent 95 - 97 % of my time in golf hitting golf balls in the driving range with only 3 - 5 % playing golf for the last 30 years.I will hit anywhere from 300 -600 balls per session. Many years ago, I hit a thousand balls a day for a period of time trying all kinds of swing and "manipulations".I am eagerly looking forward to try out your advice later this evening. I stopped going to the pros because I was not getting results from them and then embarked on a long journey of self-learning without much success. My experience with the coaches and observation of other golfers' experience with golf coaches led me to conclude and come up with the phrase - "Golf cannot be taught. It can only be learnt". You have given me good reasons to reconsider this belief.
Love it...DEFINITELY want the right shoulder moving DOWN AND FORWARD (around).....not staying back
Excellent video tip Eric! Thanks!
Anthony Viola thanks, Anthony. My pleasure
I agree! I've played golf most of my life and have seen a lot of instruction, private and video. This has been the best "common man's" instructions. Now my question....How do I stop hooking the driver and longer clubs by opening up so much? I also don't take divots anymore and would love to get a one on one lesson.
Hey Kevin!
Appreciate the kind words!
I would have to see a video of your swing to say for sure....would have to see why you are hooking in the first place to say how to fix..
@@CogornoGolf You're welcome! I've worked in golf and given some simple instruction. Instruction is one of the hardest things to get different levels to understand. You have to be able to adjust how you explain what you want your student to do, you make it simple for all levels. I'll work on getting a video. Thanks!
Another excellent, myth-busting, powerful lesson. Thanks!
Yessir, my pleasure my friend!
Another good one Eric.
Thank you!
love it , this is the last peace of the jigsaw for my swing to stop the push to the wright .
Thanks, Andrew! Hope it helps my friend!
An eye opening video
:)
Thank you will work on it when playing
Good luck Rick!
great video
Thank you!
great explanation!
Thanks!
Love this!
Hope it helps your game!
I tried this past weekend to really let my upper body rotation pretty much determine how much speed I had through impact and beyond. It seemed as long as I let everything rotate as fast as possible, for me anyway it felt like the arms and hands were the last things to get to the ball. Maybe that is what the proper sequence is supposed to feel like because there were plenty of good shots that followed. Thanks for another great video…
Excellent! Love that Tom! So long as you get the club path from inside with a square enough club face this should work great!
Thanks that was very helpful. Have been struggling with this for a while, I kept hollowing my back on impact instead of rotating through... Only noticed that after a video analysis of my swing. Anyway I'm going to give your advice a try on the range. Cheers!
Thanks, Klaas! Appreciate it!
Hi Eric great work with your videos , keep up the great work. How do you get a rib injury playing golf . Wait for your reply
Thank you
Angelo
Thanks, Angelo!
not sure on that one....out of my area of expertise. I would consult a doctor!
As a pretty good golfer I loved the way you talked in the video regardless of it’s actually right. The way you talked would give me complete trust in what you’re saying
:) Thanks Beau!
oh my god...video by video..im telling you that you're really giving a hell lots of information about the golf swing...just by seeing your video i already can understand better about the golf swing..i can't imagine if i had the chance to have a lesson with you, i think i would have improve way way better
Thanks man...happy to help guide!
Thanks for the tips. I believe lack of chest rotation is my swing killer. Great video.
Thank you Timothy! Our pleasure!
rotate the cylinder within a consistent tilt angle, and still let the arms shallow down at the same time. great vid!
Absolutely!
Great video!!!
Thanks!!
Eric,
Super instruction, love the concept
Thanks, Bob!
Awesome. Everything you say makes perfect sense. However, having the chest open while arms remain behind is very tricky to do. One drill to consider is to have someone place an alignment stick across your arms at top of swing and try to keep the stick on your arms for as long as possible to slow the arms down. Any other drills that you can recommend to slow arms ?
This question seems to be coming up a lot lately. I will do a video on the topic...
@@CogornoGolf did you ever do this video ? Thanks
Love the video ,are we opening the shoulder and hip together as quickly as possible or is the chest opening the hips naturally or do you feel the hips and chest together kind regards
I have some more videos coming out soon that will give you a more specific answer on this that will be better than me explaining in a comment
Great lesson dude👍🏼
Thanks :)
Needed this vid.. THANK YOU!
You got it :)
Was playing with retraction and protraction of my shoulders and somehow I found this video. Pretty sweet
:) Glad you landed here
Great video, Eric. For a lot of years I followed the whole “keep your back towards the target as long as possible” and “fire your hands/arms first and body will follow” thought but that always led to the early extension. I think the pros show us that rotation from the start of downswing is the key. Thoughts?
Thanks!
The TIMING is important...I lay things out more specifically below
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Great video and tremendous swing AS ALWAYS!. Although it has taken me decades to learn these things, I agree with everything you said in this video ... except, don't you want to feel that your hips are rotating slightly ahead of the rotation of your shoulders? When your entire upper body drops down slightly at the beginning of the downswing and your hands swing away from the target for just a brief moment, these moves delay the unwinding of the shoulders and cause the shoulders to rotate slightly behind the rotation of the hips in my opinion. If I maintain the proper spine angle, and my hips lead the way, my shoulders seem to follow nicely. I like feeling the hips, shoulders, hands, and clubhead are rotating and swinging through contact in this order. You disagree? I Just read the explanation you gave to one of the other comments. I would say that even though the hips rotate less, they still have to lead the way for two reasons: the hips, in my opinion, definitely rotate open but stop just before contact, and if the shoulders rotate too quickly, they will catch up to to the hips too quickly. (I admit our difference of opinion may be too subtle to be of any significance as long as the hips can somehow reach around 45° open at contact, as you mentioned.)
We're on the same page!
Of course the questions here are what will someone need to FEEL vs what is really happening. Too many people trying to keep torso closed and only open hips so I was trying to drive a point home!
@@CogornoGolf "Too many people," including me for a long time. I now understand and AGREE with everything in your video. Your ability to express in words movements that can be complicated and subtle is outstanding. You're a very smart golfer. I will continue to watch your videos regularly!
Appreciate that, happy to have you here with me!
Great info. Is this the same for driver?
Essentially yes
Great looking swing. The thing is, what I see is very different from what you describe. You may be wanting to feel like you opening your shoulders and hips very quickly but impact, you chest/shoulders are only slightly open to your target line. So I certainly agree that once the downswing begins by beginning the weight shift to the left foot (heel), the hands have begun to drop to shallow out the club and the hips have begun to rotate toward the target, the shoulders should rotate quickly but smoothly for power and consistency.
Hey Roland!
Thats exactly the point!
Most people need to FEEL they are way open so that they are ACTUALLY only slightly open!
@@CogornoGolf
Thanks for the reply. Thanks for clarifying. I know for many years I was trying to do just what you described (rotating hips and shoulders immediate from the top of the backswing) which caused me to do all kinds of bad things like getting trapped inside, not being able to square the clubface, and casting. Of course I only had half (or less) of the story. It was actually only recently that I learned to delay that rotation until I started my weight shift and my hands started to drop. Now I can fire my hips and shoulders as fast as I want with great consistency and control because I'm in the proper position. Power is now effortless which also means consistency. Still not a really big hitter but my driver clubhead speed has increased from around 85 to 105 in the last year (been playing 27years). And I love it when I hear teachers like you confirming the things that I have recently discovered. And I don't have to take ibuprofen and muscle relaxers before I play just to be able to finish a round. Golf is fun again.
Roland
Great video didn't realize my tilt was off! Also, really feeling your feels😌
Settle Paula :)
Eric, I must compliment you on your approach to identifying the action, form and timing of the upper body. I worked specifically on your maxim to "open up the shoulders and chest as quickly as possible from the start of the transition". I realize this doesn't apply to all golfers but it certainly resulted in creating more clubhead speed, accuracy and ball compression for me. I've been mentally stuck for years with the concept of keeping my back to the target on the downswing in order to avoid coming over the top... all that usually resulted were thin shots, hollow contact and a decrease in distance as I flipped through impact due to my limited rotation through the ball. THANKS MUCH for your aggressive philosophy related to encouraging a powerful rotation throughout the downswing. Cheers, Ned
Appreciate it Ned! Hope it helps moving forward.
The key really is for chest/shoulders to be 45* closed by left arm parallel (so hips get a little head start then chest/shoulders take over)
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@@CogornoGolf Hi Eric, Thanks for the reply. I was lucky to have a teacher in my youth (Art Ashton), back in the 1970s in Los Angeles, that actually learned how to teach from the great Tommy Armour back in the 1940s. He spent two weeks watching Armour with students from sun up to sun down in Florida (He gave Armour his life savings of $200 for the privilege.). I was fortunate to receive so such incredible wisdom at an early age (Ashton would tell me that there were only 2 people at the time that truly knew the golf swing - Tommy Armour and Bobby Jones; Hogan and the rest didn't know what they were talking about).. Much of your approach reminds me of those lessons. The next area of concern regarding my swing is increasing my shoulder turn -- I can get the turn with drills but for some reason I seem to abbreviate my backswing once a ball is in front of me (a bit ball bound I suppose). I'm 63 years of age with a 5 hdcp, but determined to get down to a 2 or 3 despite the lack youthful power that I once had. I'm 6 foot 5 inches tall, so there's still a good arc size to work with. Anyway, looking forward a a possible video lesson in the near future. Keep up the good work. And, as a TV Director and Filmmaker, I compliment you, also, on your video production values. Excellent job! All the best, Ned
Love it! Appreciate the kind words :)
Another excellent video I also found when I do this in the takeaway rotating my torso in the takeaway and downswing that's what works for me is that good to do ?
Thanks! Sounds right-would have to see your swing on video to say for sure!
Glad I saw this video. Tired of trying to keep my back against the target during the downswing as I was taught before. If you’re opening your chest early though and trying to leave your hands behind, why do I sometimes hit it fat and my impact is behind the ball? Is there such a thing as leaving the hands too far behind and getting dumped under? Or is it more of a weight shift issue and I have to move my trail leg forward and it has nothing to do with the hands being behind?
Hey buddy! Of course there are answers to all of these questions but they NEED to be SPECIFIC to YOU and what YOUI are doing.
I have to see your swing to answer those questions....good news is you can post them in our group and get all of this answered :) See you there
Perhaps the new smashing style of golf, the drag the handle restriction is suitable to the short swing but it’s not great for tempo. Look at Spieth with his shortened swing the last 2 days.
I've watched a lot of your videos. I wish you where in the STL area giving lessons. I'm just starting out and this is one of the things I'm having trouble with, along with making good contact. Switched instructors and he kind of went over this same thing today. You happen to have any drills through this? Enjoy your videos though!
Hey Brian! Maybe I'll be down that way one day! Yes...tons of drills....search my name and rotation or upper body feels....also we have a rotation masterclass that goes through everything thoroughly....you kind find link for that in descriptions of any of our rotation videos
Great video as always, I feel like this drill will help me, I have good strike, and distance but come to far from the inside. Which is leading me to hight draw or push shots with not much divert.
Would you agree this will help me get my club path more on the right line ??
Yes!
I would need to see your swing to say for sure (www.cogornogolf.com) but in general if you are too under plane yes MORE rotation not less MAYBE
could be several things to fix really---some options
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Great video Eric..I have tried the drill of rotating the head towards the target so as not even looking at the ball and most of the time have a fabulously clean strike…would you suggest trying to play this way or just as a drill ? Most teaching pros going way back seem to obsess about having eyes on the ball and watching the tour pros virtually all them are looking at the ball at impact.
You can definitely play this way Dean......Annika and David Duval good models who do!
So do you teach looking off the ball at the target at impact?
Would be better than the opposite for most! I don't really teach anything per say to everyone. All depends on the other parts of the swing....some people will play better with this and others will keep the head more down, shoulders more tilted and square...
A lot of that depends on the downswing swing plane.
I like your instructions, clear and they do make sense. I have a hard time trying to reconcile some of the things you teach vs Bobby Lopez, who is all about keeping the head behind the ball and not 'going offside'. He proposes that the 'hands win the race' on the downswing meaning the hands pass by the shirt-buttons on the way to the ball. What you're teaching is totally opposite, correct? I'm not meaning to criticize, just looking for clarification. FYI, I've tried Bobby's method and I still suck!
Hey Jason!
Thanks for the kind words.
Yes...sounds like based on that information what Im saying is the exact opposite.
@Jason: Yes, I was about to use Larry Rinker (upper core) as an example. Use arms, wrists, hands and swing past your body, letting them drag your shoulders open. Credit to Eric for mentioning there are other approaches. I tend to find that Rinker's method is easier on my body, but that Eric's gives me more power. Being 69 with an arthritic back I may HAVE to use the former, but honestly I'd like to use the latter. Eric's explanations are clear and concise, and I still watch his videos.
Hi Eric, I love your method of instruction, presented in a manor the club golfer can understand. I have one question relating to body pivot, are you advocating not looking at the ball at impact or have I misunderstood?
Thanks!
You can look at the ball....but its also okay if you're looking up.
Also by doing this it will prevent injury, anytime you resist any body part from naturally rotating you are asking for trouble. Great video Eric, the human anatomy is amazing when we let the brain control it naturally.
Greg Boggs yessir!
Hi Eric, always love your videos. question: I was taught a lot to lower right shoulder to avoid going over the top. To open my shoulder and chest as soon as possible, will that be a conflict to lowering the right shoulder to start the down swing? Hope you understand my question. Many thanks
Nope...you can do both at same time, not conflicting.
Very true. The first key at least for myself is drop hands towards hip and rotate. If the hands are dropping you can’t come over the top
Yes....Have to shallow arms/hands/club....live every other good player
Which is what I see that could happen. Your entire body rotating simultaneously could easily cause an over the top move. That's also a good point about the hands dropping to prevent over the top. It seems that it could cause an out to in swing, which could cause 2 misses. A slice, or a pull if your hands & arms aren't in sync, as well as a loss of distance due to a lack of coil resistance.
Good ball strikers rotate EVERYTHING....A LOT....and shallow their arms/hands/club.
That's based on every 3D measurement report I've ever seen.
I'm presenting this information to you guys not based on my opinion, but based on the current set of factual measurements that we have in 2018.
This is a great video Eric. Did you drop an F-bomb?
Hey Tim! Not sure-this was a long time ago. My apologies if I did.
Eric Cogorno Golf Ha ha it’s bleeped out at around 6m 42s. It’s just funny to hear it. Keep up the great work. Opening up chest and hips while keeping shaft shallow is taking me a long time to master but I think it’s the key to getting me to scratch. This video is on high rotation for me 👍
Eric - I have purchased your closed coil system from Performance Golf - love the series. So in this video it seems to be saying your eyes are off the ball and looking toward the target at impact - is this true? Regards, Buck Younger
Hey Buck!
this is good for people who stay CLOSED TOO long....
Closed coil is all about people who get too open too early
Here are good checkpoints for how/when to open the shoulders/chest:
ua-cam.com/video/bScRl_O6UUo/v-deo.html
@@CogornoGolf - Thank you!
Eric, I like everything here except I am not too sure about the taking your eyes off the ball. I will try it but my understanding is you should stay down and through. I have seen lots of videos of players and they all seem to be looking down where the ball use to be and not off the ball as fast as you would like. Again I will try it but that will take some getting used too.
Thanks for the video
Thanks, Al! Appreciate you being with us! Only one way to find out....maybe not for everyone but keeping head down too long can cause more problems then looking at target sooner!
Great Vid, ~! This instruction provides a totally new insight into my golf swing. Thank you!! Then, can this apply to driver swing also??
Thanks! Absolutely...all clubs!
I start hitting good but one question is how about weight shift to forward in relation to open the chest. Does it happen before chest opens up?
Hey there!
Glad to hear it!
Yes, the weight shift forward with the hips ideally starts around lead arm parallel in the backswing/P3 while the hips and shoulders are still rotating closed up to the top of the swing/P4.
You may enjoy this video:
ua-cam.com/video/bhZOWtgeD_w/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Hope this helps! Let us know if you have any questions!