*OFFICIAL* Here's EVERY Update for the 2024 Toyota Sienna Minivan...not good enough?
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
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For 2024, the Toyota Sienna is getting some changes. Are these the changes the minivan needed? Does the price increase reflect the improvements?
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0:00 - 2024 Sienna Changes...
7:22 - 2024 Pricing
8:59 - Conclusion
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Kirk, As you suggested, the biggest upgrade the Sienna needs is an upgrade in PRODUCTION numbers. That is a problem it shares with every other Toyota Hybrid.🤨
Yep. If Toyota keeps converting to hybrid-only with lower and lower production numbers, Toyota will quickly go bust.
Toyota has been increasing production. Supposedly they will produce a million more vehicles this year than last. The demand has just exceeded their production growth. People want hybrids instead of BEV and the production hasn’t caught up with demand
That’s how they keep the prices up
They did improve production number for platinum trim only 😢 I find lots of platinum trim flooding the market. All available XLE and xse all fully loaded with junk package and accessories $5k over the base msrp. I would said big NO to current sienna market with lower technology and huge markup 🤬
@@willmak242 Yes when you can’t meet the present demand it is in your interest to meet the most profitable portion of the demand you can meet. Until either the demand subsides or Toyota significantly increases their production this will be the market.
I don’t see it improving for years because Toyota isn’t one to massively increase their production. They really need about 12-13 million/yr now and 15-20 million/yr by 2030. With the demand for fuel efficiency and minimizing environmental impact Toyota’s hybrids will be in high demand for the foreseeable future.
You are correct. Having said that, I love my 2023 Platinum Sienna. Yes, the entertainment system sucks, yes, it could use the 3.0 Safety feature set. Yes, I paid over MSRP. Yes, I waited 4 months, "ordered it" in January and got it in April. Noisy ? Perhaps, but not as bad as my old Town and Country. I get over 41 MPG all the time. It's the best mini-van compared to the 4 previous ones. They don't have to change and frankly they have NO competition. Yes, it sits on top.
41 mpg is very impressive. How do you do it? I've had my 2021 Sienna Platinum since June 2021 and I've only got an average of 28.4 mpg over 22k miles.
My car now has 5500 miles. I did an oil change at 5K on my nickel. Most of my driving is with my wife and I and I use ECO mode 98% of the time and only when ramping to a highway, do I temporarily put it in Sport mode for acceleration to speed. When I first got the van, for the first 500 miles I had 5 people and the MPG was about 39. In a few days I will be driving with my wife and a van loaded with crap, from NJ to Chicago and I anticipate a drop in MPG since the speed most probably will be constant at 75. Before this first trip, most of my driving has been highway, at 67-70 MPG and there is a sweet spot at around 67 for maximum MPG - We also use the economy air setting button, I forgot what button that is but it disabled rear ventilation and I believe runs the AC in economy mode, as does the ECO mode. I also have a light foot and I can see when my wife drives, her foot is not as light. I save my racing for my 6 speed Accord :) And by the way, the built in GPS map stuff is absolutely the worst and absolutely inaccurate. I only use Waze.@@PriestsandParamedics
@@pedropuckerstein4670 I’ve got 35 mpg but probably hilly Southern California.
I totally agree with you! I have a 2004 Sienna that is still in excellent condition with only 58,000 miles. I was waiting for the 2024, but since basically nothing has changed, I’ll be waiting for 2025. I’m waiting for the dash upgrade and the larger infotainment system. Thanks for all the info. I look forward to your 2025 review!
Don't get rid of your 2004! We miss ours 😭
@@KirkKreifels We have a 2001 Sienna with 195,000 miles on it. Original engine and transmission. It runs great.
TRY TO EVEN FIND A 24.
Put me on the waitlist to buy your 2004 when you are ready to sell?
@@Billy-4 Where are you located?😊
Wished Toyota would bring the Alphard and Lexus LM stateside. The Sienna around here are quite popular, but since they still are kinda hard to get, seeing more new Odysseys and Carnivals running around
Not having kids until the sienne back in stock. Only logical move.
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I'm happy with the current exteriors but the inside definitely needs an update.
My biggest complaint is that you can’t remove the second row seats. I use mine as a camper and this is an absolute dealbreaker for me buying a new one.
4runner is calling you for that as a camper. Many do this just flipping the 2nd row down
Safety issue I am afraid. Side collision rating has been revamped to be more stringent
It should be able to fold forward onto itself. The folding design is silly AF
The ONLY CHANGE many of us NEED in many states is MORE ground clearance! I live in the Midwest and we get two feet's of snow and having high ground clearance is a MUST.
Grand Highlander fixes ground clearance issue. Minivan is passenger sedan like and will stay that way.
@@seikocitizenwatchesthats the reason I bought grandhighlander awd
@@seikocitizenwatches hit the parking bump alot, that's suck when some parking is very narrow so you have to pull all the way up and some time will hit the parking bump. Highlander is never the same as for storage and passenger load compare to Sienna.
Totally agree, I was not impressed when I went to see if I wanted to upgrade this year from my 2019 Odyssey. Another big problem besides what you mentioned is the lack of an 8 seater option in the higher trims. People buying minivans want the option to haul a bunch of extra kids for carpool etc. Also the loss of the blue-ray player is a big deal. Streaming on the road with your phone hotspot is problematic, but I don't want to pay for a dedicated AT&T plan to get wifi for the car
Thank you for this video! I'm about to buy my first van and this helped out a lot!
The #1 recommendation for SUV-buyer referrals.
Most people just need a sienna and Ridgeline anyways.
Come on guys!!!! Don't close your eyes 👀 👀 please,, you didn't see the prices change, that's the biggest upgrade, thanks Toyota you are keeping always customers happy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What?
My flawlessly running 2008 Toyota Sienna was totaled by a 88 years old Lexus LS500 driver. I now have replaced it with the Sienna hybrid and very happy with the new design 35 mpg Vs 19 mpg is the most significant difference. I now can have range up to 600 miles Vs 430 miles on smaller gas tank 18 gallons Vs 21 gallons. The hybrid Sienna is more suitable for modern highways than the old V6 i.e. Sienna runs on battery power during stop and go traffic jams and engine shut off at stops. New Sienna has HOLD mode works great in congested city traffics. There’s room for improvement.
My gripes include:
1. Seat fabric is too rough compared to the velour fabrics in the second generation Siennas.
2. Middle seat of the second row is a joke. Toyota should have kept the excellent design of the second generation Sienna middle row seats.
4. Thin carpets and sound insulation.
3. Insufficient interior lighting for passenger and cargo.
I think they have to keep it as light as possible to get the 36/36 data.
My only wish would be to get a discounted 2023 model when 24' roles in.
Hi Kirk! New to your channel and really appreciate your reviews that are helpful for families! I'm dying to get an EV minivan as I've been driving around a Honda Odyssey for almost a decade and want something better on gas. I have been in a Pacific Hybrid rental this week and am really enjoying it but I see the reliability scores are pretty terrible. I've read about the various recalls and engine failure problems. Do you have any updated info on these issues? Are they still a problem? I watched your Pacifica review and it seemed like you were pretty positivr overall. Thanks!
I appreciate your criticism, unlike other UA-camrs who just advertise for car brands.
I got a 2022 woodland and we love it, yeah it could improve a bit but the extra ground clearance does help, we have a pretty steep driveway and if I had the sportier one I believe the front would scrape. The #1 thing that does grind my gears is that the multimedia package SHOULD have a digital rear view mirror as when the screen is lowered I can not see out of it at all just have to use the 2 side mirrors like in F1.
Glad I did not wait for a 24 MY. Saved 1800 and not missing out on any upgrades. At the minimum, the infotainment system should have gotten a refresh.
I was really hoping to see a Prime plugin version.... maybe 40 miles on charge!
They should offer it as a Prime. Would be awesome. Also, the supply to get one is terrible. It’s my belief Toyota is doing this on purpose to keep prices propped up.
It’s not on purpose, their battery supply is constrained. They’re actually building a new battery plant and increasing battery production in other plants. But like everything Toyota does, it’s slow going. It’s a shame because the Sienna would easily sell over a 100k units a year if the supply was there.
Of all the Toyotas short of the sequoia …sienna needs the big screen the most. Hands down.
I totally agree. I waited for 2 years and finally got my 2023 Sienna. Everything is good about car, the drive is very smooth except lack new the technology. I wished they put the grand HL technology on the Sienna.
Really dig the updates. I have an XSE and would definitely go for the premium package to get some ventilated seats if I ever trade in. Would have been nice to see updated infotainment, but honestly the current one is fine for carplay or android auto. What they do need to do is give us a better sound system. The JBL is weak.
Yes it is weak!
Good grief! I finally find a reviewer who pays due respect to minivans! I've been buying vehicles for 50+ years, and my 2014 Toyota Sienna was by far the best I ever owned. How in the world SUV drivers look down their noses on minivans defies common sense. After all, SUVs are just taller station wagons, sometimes cross-bred with Peterbilts.
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Great re[prtomg. I will be at the L A Auto Show for sure. You do such an excellent job promoting Toyota that the company should give you a new Sienna
every year for free.
I went last year and they only had the 22 Sienna model displace when the 23 already came out lol
All it needs, it sort out the production. I’m still waiting for mine after 2 years
…..Wow…. I order a AWD Sienna platinum January 2023 and was ready October 2023. The dealer did have to modify an existing Sienna allocated to them. I ended up turning down the vehicle because of the downfalls of A m WD. Tire height must be about equal and maintained & you must tow with a flat bed tow truck
….What city & country do you live in?
@@stephenfiore9960 Canada, apparently they don't get any allocations
Nice video. My money is on the 2024 Sienna Platinum. I feel you regarding the tech specs and features especially after comparing them to the Grand Highlander and Venza. Also not having the Safety sense 3.0 may or may not be a thing. All that said I am satisfied and looking forward to getting my unit in mid April 2024.
I tried to convince my wife to get a minivan back when we purchased our ‘03 Sequoia. Could’ve bought two Siennas for the gas I’ve put through the Sequoia. 18,000+ gallons since ‘03. 😆😆
That said, the Sequoia won’t die and I’m never selling it.
Does the limited have a backup camera that notifies you if your are backing into something? Does the Limited have the better windows for reduced sound?
Camry stationwagon, Previa , 2 SIENNA’s got our family around for 40 plus years. Our 2011 SIENNA is still going strong, will wait for a prime or Bev SIENNA , BUT might be Korean minivan IF we have too.
Still not getting one since you can’t remove second row. 300k+ miles on 2011 . Best truck I’ve ever owned.
I just bought a $80 wireless CarPlay stick off Amazon for my Sienna, works great!
I hope Toyota put back the removability of the 2nd row
Nope.
Do you know if the limited model for 2024 still offers the graphite leather option?
Totally agree with you. Lots of demand so why put more effort into additional features. At some point people are going to look elsewhere for those features or hold off until supply catches up and toyota adds a decent plug in option with Toyota’s safety and tech that is standard across the line.
If you calculate the gas savings of the Sienna hybrid (36 mpg) vs Honda Odyssey (22 mpg) it takes 11.5 years to break even.
Sienna prime is a must!!! That would be a huge huge plus !!! I’m definitely not interested until they get a prime!
Was hoping for a refresh for 2024. I’ll hang on to my 2019 sienna for now.
Kinda off topic but I’m so glad that Toyota is adding Army Green to the RAV4s
Essentially the 2024 XSE adds everything that was on the 2023 XSE 25th anniversary. Memory seats, vented seats, power tilt steering wheel, and puddle lamps. Only extra for 2024 if 7in MID
This is the spec i wanted
Hi Kirk: I agree with you 100% and fuel savings is great but when you live in your vehicle it should have all the technology and creature comforts. Here in Toronto you can't buy a Sienna without putting in an order and hope you may see one next year or 2025. Apparently they are only giving 24 to a dealership. They also keep saying supply chain is causing this problem which is really bad information. They are getting list price for the cars and maxing the profits. I like my Lexus but I will not give them a deposit for the Sienna to wait until one comes in. Keep them honest with your comments.
I wish the seats could be removed. Glad the Woodland is back.
Looks like I'll wait to see what Honda is going to do
Kirk. Great review. The 2024 Sienna is the same as 2023 model year.
Toyota typical fashion what a joke. Planned on trading in my 22 RAV4 XSE for the Sienna thinking they would upgrade the technology but NO. Wish Toyota as a company would read these comments and try to change by seeing what customers want. Now it’s either wait for the 25 model or go with something else or another manufacturer. They did a face lift on my RAV then waited a year to update the infotainment. Get with the program these updates didn’t impress one bit and was a smack to customers face.
Needs improvements in interior quality and noise suppression and of course, availability.
Needs the other stuff too, but the above is deal-breakers.
My wife and I went to the Detroit auto show last night just to see the Sienna. We sat in all of Toyota's offerings except the Corolla Cross. My wife currently drives a 21 Model Y and we have a 2010 Prius. The comfort level of the Seats in all Toyotas is poor compared to the Model Y. We want the Sienna for long distance cruising and plush front seats are required along with a height adjustable front passenger seat. I did notice that the third row of seats "bounce when stowed" and do not lie flat in the floor. As for the dash my wife said it looked dated 2 generations old and compared it to her totaled 2017 Prius Prime.
Why Toyota did not update Safety Sence to 3.0 is beyond understanding. Safety is a priority in a vehicle traveling at highway speeds with 3 little distractions in the back...
Toyota you do not have much time to get things updated or you will lose customers like us to Tesla and Hyundai. I am very concerned.
It needs a rear suspension leveling option. Our 2014 model allows us to use airbag inserts inside the coil springs. I don’t see these options for 2024. This is a major concern for folks with bike racks.
Love the Sienna 😎
@Kirk Kreifels, “it could be perfected”, well said.
Hopefully for the 2025/2026 model we see what we want.. the prime version and the new infotainment system. It just not the siennas time to get refreshed. Once it gets refreshed it’ll get everything mentioned in this vid.
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Beware: the Sienna has a problem in cold weather. If you are standing still such as in a line at a fast food restaurant, Starbucks, a bank drive thru or especially in expressway traffic that has stopped and it’s cold outside the Sienna will get cold rather quickly. The engine will shut down while standing still and the engine heat will not be available to keep the cabin warm. I’ve found within 5 minutes the heater stops blowing warm air. The engine will restart once the battery levels reach a certain point but the engine is now cold and will take several minutes to generate heat. Just be aware this is a side effect of a Toyota Hybrid. This is a real problem when traveling and you get stuck in traffic that is not moving.
Honestly I've experienced this with other vehicles. Happened on a 2019 Ford F-150. Granted it gets so cold here we actually restrict the air in the front grills to keep the engine warm. I even keep the car plugged in to keep the oil warm a few hours before starting the engine. Where I live it can get as cold as -40°C=
-40°F. I generally disable the auto engine shut off thing in the winter(ex: where it shuts off the engine when stopped at a light)
ty for the video... does the 2024 have a higher resolution LCD in the dash? I agree it's a swing and a miss year. They phoned it in big time.
Same screen
I'm from Canada. I ordered the 2022 model and got the 2024 model with a 5k price bump. So I have mixed feelings - got some upgrades just because it came in 2 years late. But could have gotten some more upgrades as well.
Very disappointed that the MY24 will not be receiving the udpated Toyota multimedia interface.
Do you know the Chinese version of this gen does comes with full lcd gauge cluster and full size center infotaiment system.
When you have an option for a auto access seat, those folks are going to buy no matter what. Amazing for people who need it.
please let me pause the seat belt warning alarm so my kids don't burst into tears!!! it is ridiculous and does not give me the opportunity to get a kid rebuckled before everyone is awake, crying and having a heart attack!!!
Got the first iteration Limited AWD, nothing changed.
Don't know if I'm blind but with the 2024 on their website and the build/price tool, I'm only seeing a $300 price hike for base pricing, except Woodland edition which was hiked $430? Did the announcement not match up with the final pricing?
Does the AWD trim get more horse power?
The 2024 XSE Premium Package is basically a replacement for the 2023 25th Anniversary XSE.
2023 model pricing was raised by $1500 for the base already by May 2023, so comparison should have a footnote for clarity. So in reality, it’s $300 price increase for base model between 2023 and 2024.
Damn I was hoping for the technology upgrade like you mentioned.....deal breaker for me!
Great review 0:06
Was disappointed with lack of ability to remove second row seats but the added air bag technology was great when someone ran a red light and hit me. Have to weigh pro's and con's of safety vs convenience
Sold my 23 xle after three weeks of owning it because of the softex seats! Was bummed out because of them
Softex is horrible material for automobiles. If manufacturers can’t offer real leathers, velour fabric is the most comfortable materials for year around motoring as it is very comfortable in hot or cold weathers. I have a 2005 Toyota Sienna that the original velour seats still like new condition at 325K miles. This Sienna has been a family member since my 4 children were still in grade schools and they now have graduated and grown.
@@seikocitizenwatches I am upgrading to a platinum with real leather seats that are heated and cooled. The nice thing about my xle is that I was able to get all my money back because demand is so high
Wish Honda gave them true competition by bringing out a hybrid. The Honda Odyssey is equal or superior to sienna in all departments except fuel economy. Right now Sienna is king and the popular XLE 8 seat trim cant be found anywhere. Dealers are having a huge windfall with markups and unnecessary options and upgrade galore. Toyota's brand is getting hurt. Price gouged customers are less likely to consider a Toyota again for their subsequent vehicle purchases.
I need an 8-seater, but they only offer it in the lower trims, which may push me to an Expedition for the creature comforts. My ideal is an 8-seater AWD XSE Prime. If Toyota makes this, with the A/C seats, I'll buy it.
Anyone else notice the chart was actually comparing the 2023 FWD to the 2023 AWD??
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Are the Toyota delaerships marking up on the 2023 Sienna vans? 2024?
Would you still pick this over 2024 odyssey?
Don’t forget, you also lose the standard birds-eye-view. The dealership that I got my sienna 2024 limited did not have that. They also don’t have it for the platinum either.
I need one of those usb dvd players
God bless Toyota for the engineering of the Siena with the auto access seat. Thanks for caring about safe mobility.
Mini vans FTW! Toyota needs to treat it as first class citizen though
Seems like you should try to get a 23 Limited - gets you the ventilated leather seats...does the 2024 fix the center console that eats your stuff?
Same venter console
@@KirkKreifels nom nom nom! Thanks!
What I need is a Hybrid Max Sienna
I have a 2015 with a CD player, Yes that was an upgrade from 2014. Vaccum? I heard 2025 will have it.
I wish they could bring back the Sienna Symphony edition lol
With the 2024 Sienna upgrades or lack of, what order would you put the 2024 Kia Carnival, 2024 Odyssey, and 2024 Sienna?
I would go 2024 Kia Carnival (best Value for the money) No major issues with close to 6.5K difference in the top models which covers for gas. If driving for Uber, Sienna if you can get one.
@@udaykosaraju3851My biggest issue that has me hesitant is the 36 MPG vs 22 avg for the carnival.
If Kia brings the Carnival Hybrid over here and adds AWD with the upcoming refresh, the Sienna is screwed. Or not, since people will buy it anyway.
Brian's ALIVE!!! Yes how about Carnival gives us PHEV and HEV to make Sienna up their game.
@@KirkKreifels Mwuahaha!
Why are they refusing to put the updated infotainment system on the Sienna and Camry???
Im personally glad the old infotainment exists
Because it’s honestly better than the new interface. The old interface has more physical shortcut buttons, Home Screen, built in navigation, and CarPlay android auto. You just need a USB adapter to get the wireless feature. The new interface makes you pay for navigation and it’s not even built in. It’s entirely internet connected with no offline support.
It’s doing it’s job and reliable.
Camry no update because it’s about to come out with all new model
I had a 2021 highlander platinum hybrid, and I have a 2021 sienna platinum. The difference in the tech was annoying when I made the switch. I also never could get the tv screen to work with an android, but my apple stuff just poof worked. Don't know why, probably operator error. That system is also annoying because you can't do anything with it from the front seat. So to turn it on, and make sure it's on hdmi mode I have to use the remote from the second row. Plus having to plug some other player into it anyways. Makes the thing literally useless. I just bought my daughter and ipad and bluetooth headphones. I wish I could get the platinum without it. I also feel the same about the sunroof. The only use it gets is if we go to the drive through safari place and she feeds a giraffe out of it. Just something else to malfunction and potentially leak. Wish both of those things were options.
As for the woodlands edition. I'll have to look at it. The extra clearance might be nice as I live on shitty roads, and upon occasion drive through a pasture.
This guy is my to go Toyota google search 😂
removable mid seat would be good
Toyota will see how many customers change their brand and go hybrid Carnival and the upcoming hybrid Odyssey. Then, maybe they will make the overdue updates as well as bump up production.
i love that color. what is that color?
Do you know what kicks ass? The Toyota Sienta
Basically an Aqua/PriusC MPV. But less practical and efficient crossovers are more profitable 🤷🤦
@Kirk Kreifels you need to address the brittle interior and Toyotas warranty claim denials on the new generation.
MILLER TOYOTA IN ANAHEIM HAS A TOTAL OF 3 SIENNAS FOR SALE NOW, ALL XLES, NO XSE, NO LIMITED, WTF?
SCREW THEM, I'LL KEEP MY 2012 WITH THE POWERFULL V6.
TSS 2.0? not 3.0?
Needs 8 inch ground clearance
8 inches? Nobody complained with 6 inches.
what does the new woodland trim get?
@@kolt9051 1/2 inch more
My 23 sienna is sweet! Only thing it needs is another hundred horses. Does not feel show though and 35mpg with awd is surreal. No plugging into the grid and she has NIMH batteries not the fire prone and slave labor inducing lithium!
I want the woodland.
I've been looking at the sienna and they keep not adding features and it's so loud. The Odyssey is the top contender and now the carnival due to jd power reviews.
Extremely disappointed. We held out for a ‘24 for a year with hopes of them upgrading the infotainment and safety systems.
Agreed. 4 years without MMC is not acceptable.
How about focusing on filling orders from the spring of 2022, Toyota. If you order a 2024 you will be waiting for years to recieve it. North London Toyota in London, Ontario, Canada texted me yesterday, September 26, 2023, that they have no idea when our van, ordered at the end of March 2022 will be arriving. That is what is not good enough!
I just bought sienna platinum 2024, after tax cost me $67,000.