Social Media has ruined Formula 1
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2024
- Formula 1 has evolved into a phenomenon that exceeded expectations. F1 has always expanded into new countries and continents, but it took Netflix Drive To Survive to propel it to that next level. But with the growth of social media and the ability to stay anonymous being so easy, it has changed the Formula 1 fan base for worse. Formula 1 fans are a unique bunch, but the negatives involved with it's recent growth, has been too much to ignore. Enjoy.
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I always feel like that most of the fans nowadays see f1 as a sort of reality show
There's too many grown men saying how cute Lando is because his hair is fluffy...
@@nickypoundtown9568nahhh…… the worst part about this comment is it’s true
@@nickypoundtown9568😂, is that true? 😳
@@rhino69420So you think his hair is that fluffy?
@hitmanzzz I saw a comment once to that description and all these simps responding and agreeing, other comments were bagging Dan because he had a few bad races then a few weeks later we loved Dan again
Social media has ruined more than F1.
Agreed, social media brings spotlight to undeserved keyboard warriors who idolize there favorite celebrity or hate the rival of there favorite celebrity
It's not social media per se, media has always been social to a degree. This is about erosion of personal freedoms and the commericalisation of lifestyle choices.
Social Media has ruined society
For me also a football fan I barely entertain what most fans say on social media
Social media has also killed football.
Most new fans care more about the gossip and drama than the actual act of racing
I 100% agree. Most of the F1 fans on social-media have no clue about racecraft or driving standards. For example, if it was Max Verstappen who crashed-out Perez in the recent Monaco GP instead of Kevin Magnussen I guarantee most of those F1 fans would say that Perez Squeezed him purpose LoL. Completely failing to see that the pass was never on in a million years.
It's mostly girls dude
I'm a new fan, but I never take part in social media discussions. I think most new fans are like this
@@avflashback8913 I think the exact opposite is happening with the Monaco first lap crash right now. Sure, Magnussen shouldn't have went for that overtake there, but Perez clearly had the space on the other side to avoid the crash if he wanted. He either didn't check his mirrors at all or just didn't expect Magnussen to go for it. They were both at fault Perez for lack of awareness, and Magnussen for the optimistic overtake attempt. The stewards did the right choice, because clearly both were at fault, yet Magnussen gets all the blame on social media because Perez is more popular.
As a new fan from 2022 who found the sport without having even heard of DTS I made the mistake of actually learning everything I possibly could about the sport and its history under the assumption it was generally expected. Boy was I wrong.
I now find my self “gatekeeping” the sport from my own dad who grew up watching the sport starting back in the 70s. Unfortunately he only got back into it recently through DTS after not watching since Schumacher retired. I got no problem he can’t even pronounce 70% of the grids name correctly but I do with the fact he’s fully behind the drama and only the drama, it’s honestly embarrassing for an old head. I mean he is fully into all the supposed heated rivalries between two drivers, most of which never even existed apart from doctored radio messages in early DTS seasons. Hell can’t even talk about races from the 90s or early 2000s I’ve gone back and watched because he barely remembers who even won that particular season.
I’m convinced DTS is just bring brain rot into the sport so call me a gatekeeper if you want but I feel like a sport such as F1 requires a little due diligence to be a fan.
One of the worst Things about modern f1 is: EVERYTHING is a meme. Even if its not funny at all
Hear! Hear! 👏👏👏👏👏
The Piastri-Leclerc thing this weekend is one of the most unfunny meme things i have ever come across in f1.
That shit is more dead than Perez 25’ seat.
The people who laugh at that are the most insufferable people on the planet.
But look i get it, it was kinda funny the first time, but EVERY SINGLE COMMENT on any kind of Piastri or Leclerc thing that happened was filled with it. It’s like a cancer
@@christofferrsnes9508 what even happened? I just noticed that leclerc apparently is piastris father now? Lolololol so funny
And we should remember new F1 owner was unfortunately show his ugly side already they want money over racer history I hate it.
@@ksok715 just some stupid thing Piastri was doing on twitter where he was trying to have a home race at every circuit we go to(apparently he is 1/16th italian or smtn idfk?!).
So he wanted to do the same in Monaco and Leclerc offered to adopt him i think.
Was kinda funny the first time but after that it was just cringe.(I wanted to bang my head in when reading anything about f1 online this weekend)
It's typical twitter mob behavior that ruined not just the F1, but the entire internet.
twitter sucks, it was already awful and now its even worse
This and their Woke rhetoric is destroying society. Social media is means to control the masses, a modern day religion used to push rotten agendas through division. Minority agendas should be kept minority. No more gender, sex and race based narrative, shut it down and shut the idiots up. The government's and the social elites now control the masses. Social media is where we see this garbage spew and can freely see the idiocy and indoctrination that society and most of the youth have succumbed too.
I came here to comment this. I'm a big football fan and it's exactly the same in that community online, pure toxicity. But more recently all corners of the likes of X have just been outrageously toxic, I've started to try keep away from it all
@@Youeube mate it's not a coincidence you see the same behaviour between the two. A lot of footy fans migrated to F1 and.. well you know the rest
It was designed to. This is nothing new, it was like this back in the days of MSN and even before with newsgroups. Even well before with the Zinoviev letter which was used to influence the British general election of 1924.
It's always been the case, ever since the invention of film and the proliferation of television.
The T-Shirt gate was the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen in F1 Social Media glad you brought it to light.
For these gate, I 50% agree and 50% disagree.
I for one actually saw the funny side of it. There’s a running joke that Max pretty much lives in his red bull team wear even when he’s streaming. Not necessarily a bad thing I mean it’s his pride and joy at the end of the day but just kind of amusing
Yeah my first thought was "shouldn't they just be happy he turned up? It wasn't mandatory to do so".
One massive problem is social media and its tribalism.
The other is DTS creating masses of fans who are trained by the show to view F1 as a reality show instead of a sport and who yearn for drama in the form of drivers insulting each other and crashing horrifically instead of clean racing and nerdy mechanical engineering. Those fans are a product of the pipeline that got them into F1
I despise tribalism. It’s a weird phenomenon that I’ve never understood. Mental illness
@@Ccccc-mi3tr not a mental illness, buddy. Common human behaviour. You do it too, just like everyone else
@@tilltronje1623 It's a behaviour that goes way back to hunter-gatherer days, where you were either part of a tribe or you had to survive in nature all by yourself.
Tribalism is a survival mechanism.
@@deanchurand at the same time this tribalism has little (keyword little, not none) place in modern society and in fact causes the rampant toxicity and seperation we’re currently seeing in many communities online. We have to grow out of these things and adapt to the world that we’ve built for ourselves.
Not disagreeing with you, just putting a new perspective on the issue
The great irony of social media.
I immediately remembered how Leclerc unfortunately took out Checo in Mexico last year (racing incident), then a Red Bull fan and a Ferrari fan started fighting in the stands and after the race the whole stadium booed Charles for something he had little influence on...I was genuinely shocked that day...but this is where hate and mob behavior took F1
A little correction: it was a Checo fan who fought a Ferrari fan because he was so pissed about what happened to Checo (still doesn't justify his actions) and he saw the Ferrari fan clap for Charles and then the Checo fan started the fight. I've met a lot of Red Bull fans (not Checo fans, this was before Checo in Red Bull) and they are cool people, but ever since Checo went to Red Bull, Checo fans who wear his Red Bull merch started bullying other driver's fans (Max, Charles, Carlos, Daniel, whoever's performing better than Checo). I know some Daniel fans on the internet who are getting bullied by Checo fans because they don't want Daniel or even Yuki to replace Checo.
honestly I don’t really care for the booing, that’s happened prior to social media and is just part of fan behavior and the sport. But fighting is way too far, no one should get physically harmed over an opinion about a sport.
As a dutch Max fan I'm pretty used to the fury from the more passionate part of Checo's fanbase since Brazil 2022...🤷♂️
Social media is ruining everything, not just formula one.
People today are incapable of having a conversation, let alone exchanging an opinion where two disagree. It's just sad.
its all by design, they want the people to be divided.
Im sure people was that stupid before social media, but yep, social media makes it a lot worse.
"He said on social media"
Twitter freaks :p
My thoughts exactly
You’re bang on the money mate, I’ve no issue with people being casual fans but the problem is when casual fans who don’t quite understand the full picture are driving the conversation. Leads to so many ridiculous narratives being pushed all over social media e.g., Newey will sabotage red bull now he’s leaving, Perez has one bad race and now he needs binning, De Vries is the worst driver in history… and so on, and so on.
Absolutely agree but I do think Pérez should be out the door by next season unless he starts helping max and getting on the podium much more often.
@@kobloxy44he had 4 season to prove that. Last year he was struggling to even get into Q3 many times in the best car. He is a good driver, but not in a top team. He is not the first case, Bottas and Barrichello were in the same situation.
I'm from Melbourne too. At this years Grand Prix, I was wearing a Red Bull shirt. There was a group of 4 Ferrari fans sitting next to me in the stand. Every time I had to walk past, they sang songs mocking me. When Max's car blew up, they and the entire stand around me erupted in cheers and really toxic vibes. I get it. He dominated last year, and people are happy to see another winner. But when it comes to the point of bullying someone for wearing a Red Bull shirt, who's on their own, it's ridiculous. I paid $600 to sit there all day feeling like shit. The online negativity is spilling over into the real world. I went to the first Melbourne grand prix in 1996 when I was 14, and boy have things changed. Booing drivers on the podium, things like that. It's awful. I've started to really appreciate how wonderful the crowds are at races like Suzuka. Wonderful fandom and F1 obsession but zero toxicity and booing.
I'm sorry. Please don't let the bullying stop you from supporting what team and driver you like. A lot of Ferrari fans have been bullying Max and Red Bull fans. It would be funny tho IF Max goes to Ferrari and wins races there, what are they gonna do? HA! So stick it out, cuz Max and Red Bull are creating history and you have the privilege of witnessing it. I hope F1 will do something about the toxicity of the fans, but I doubt they care, they don't even care about the driver's safety that much, what more fans.
Ofc its the ferrari fans
@@distortion2752its everyone bro. remember when for example the "orange army" cheered after Vettel crashed in Germany?
That's when bring up the recent championships to them/banter back... instead of crying
@@distortion2752I promise you not all Ferrari fans are like that, I’m a huge Ferrari and Schumacher fan. But from what he had experienced, sounds like new Ferrari fans….
Welcome to the KPop-ification of F1.
You don't form parasocial relationships with cars or an engine.
You form them with people.
And DTS in particular and Liberty in general has surely been trying to put the leading faces of the sport into the spotlight, with matching drama and stuff that any writer or producer from Korea's "Big Three" idol production houses would be envious of.
Hell, look at Gunther's following. Not because he's the TP version of Adrian Newey but because he's a CHARACTER.
So, again:
Welcome to the KPop-ification of F1.
"You don't form parasocial relationships with cars or an engine."
Unless it's a naturally-aspirated V8, V10 or V12
What’s k pop
Lando fans
@@caledonianrailway1233Korean Pop music. You know, BTS, Blackpink, etc.
@@gabrielnunez7623 never heard of them so like Eurobeat?
social media and most media or entertainment nowadays seems to have built itself around conflict or disagreements to boost engagement and time spent on the apps. Be it politics, global issues, hobbies, I think people are feeling the manipulation from the world around them and revolting in a lot of ways. I have been a fan of F1 since 2007 and 100% agree the fanbase has been divided so much in recent years it feels like if you aren't entrenched in a driver you are aren't a "real" fan.
Completely agree. I've heavily curated content, barely do news outside of interests because everything is do desperate for attention. Anything all caps gets a "don't recommend" now. I like that I can at least comment and interact with people on topics I enjoy. I just try and do it constructively... and sometimes fail.
The worst part is that most of these hate and toxic comments are literally from people that are just sitting at home or on the toilet scrolling and looking for the attention that they don’t have in their lives
It's a double edged sword. I think toxic fans have always been around. The internet just magnified their noise.
Personally, it's a blessing. I finally found people to share my hobby with. Sure, the toxic fans are still around but it's as simple as not engaging with them and choosing your groups/people wisely.
The thing is social media has ruined the internet and it’s reached F1 but it’s a wider issue. It’s toxic and reactionary everywhere.
I do hate the tribal football style attitude that has seeped into F1, the idea that people has to pick a side or refer to a team as ‘we’ and ‘us’ which I just find weird.
one thing that i do despise on the new wave of fans is the fact that are not that objective; for example, they said that Mick should have not been fired back in 2022 because...he was cute. (Or the Alonso toxic fanbase; as a spaniard i was happy with the 33 movement at the beggining but later it did translate into pure chaos)
@@ok-___okokokokoko7661what happened?
@@caledonianrailway1233 basically, a part of the fanbase did evolve to the same shit as football supporters, demaning responses like maniacs for why they did take a step back (but in a "football demanor")
@@ok-___okokokokoko7661 ok that sucks
@@caledonianrailway1233 yh, now they're calm thankfully
Social media just ruins everything.
"He said on social media"
I came for the memes, stayed for the sport, I love F1 now, watch virtually every race.
Watched DTS once, saw it as dramatic tripe and never watched it again.
My dad took me to the 1985 Dutch GP, which would be the last one until 2021. As a youngster, I was witness to Lauda's last win and a legendary Lauda-Prost-Senna podium. But what I remember more about those days was that fans were more into teams, brands, engines. It was actually Senna, who became the first real pop-celebrity because he was an F1-driver: that's when F1 gradually started to shift from all being F1-nerds to either supporting or opposing a Senna, a Schumacher, a Vettel, a Hamilton, or a Verstappen. And modern (social) media are only emphasizing that nowadays.
A bit like soccer, back in the days one liked a driver not for its passport or personality, but because he was part of your favorite team. A bit like a great singing for your favorite football club, nowadays. Myself I was in awe of the aggressive red & black Ferrari and the golden black Lotus. Once Lotus turned yellow I was quickly done with that, but Ferrari always stuck with me and for me it's pretty simple: I support a team and the drivers who're in that team. If next year both drivers would change I'd go with them because THEN THEY are part of the Ferrari-outfit. It's 'Team over Drivers' for me. I'm equally happy with a Carlos Sainz-win as I am with a triumphant Charles Leclerc and guess what...: next year this Dutchy will be cheering for a certain Lewis Hamilton, because: Ferrari.
It's a bit of chicken and egg discussion where some argue drivers become great because certain teams take them on, while others argue that certain teams are made big thanks to the talent of individual drivers. I think the single worst influence of social media is that it has emphasized the drivers much more than the teams and the brands. I am definitely in the 'team over driver' camp, but modern (social) media most definitely is emphasizing 'driver over teams' and I think that's a shame.
I stopped watching when skynews took over and we lost the best commentators ever.
exactly,skysport replaced james allen with crofty still baffle me until now,james allen received a lot of sticks because he wasn't as good as murray walker but listening back,james allen aren't that bad and fill in murray walker's shoes quite well with martin brundle
any kind of fandom is just unbearable on twitter, f1 is definitely up there with one of the worst
#TeamLH
teamLH and Leclerc fans are the worst
Max and Alonso fans are the worst
In my opinion, there’s always been toxicity, it’s just more out there now thanks to the enabling from social media. Sure we can just put our screens down and go touch the grass… but what I’ve noticed a lot lately is that whatever happens on the media, will eventually affect society in the real world. It’s kinda spooky in some way shape or form.
Now yes social media is helpful to connect with people and to help get ideas and other business purposes. But some people just take things too far to ruin.
Agreed, I think social media is just neutral catalyst: whatever is put there will stay the same, just in bigger scale
Bringing F1 into the mainstream has honestly become a net negative for the sport
The recentcy bias is really bad the last few years too. One driver will randomly do good, and everyone is calling for them to be in a top team. And then they do bad, and they call for them to be replaced.
don't call them fans
all this will end the day people become fans of the sport then become fans of the drivers.. the day u become fans of the drivers not fans of the sport that's the day you gonna miss the magic of f1..
Couldn't agree more
True words, I agree. for me as a german , born 2004, prime f1 was the vettel era where social media also didnt really exist besides i was too young for it. just watching the race and thats it was in some way better than it is now and some of these fans who joined during covid really trigger me. at zhe moment i find way more passion in motogp as it feels a lot more basic and simple, more racing less cringy american show stuff
I suppose you watched F1 on RTL :) Good times when Nikki was there every sunday...
Everything described in this video is exactly why 2012 was better than 2021. I was genuinely worried about either Verstappen or Hamilton getting hate just for trying hard and sometimes stepping over the limit due to a mistake (it's not like they wanted to do bad things, they just wanted to win and sometimes overstepped accidentally).
Real F1 fans want to see good racing and spectacles, overtakes and sportsmanship
Nope. Formula One management did that, all on their own.
You want poplarity well it will come with its issues.
exactly.
except that nobody in f1 asked for that
@@Randomvideos-zi7pe yes they did the sport was losing money
@@abuabdullah8024 it was not losing money, try harder
@@Randomvideos-zi7pe Brother, it was losing money before Liberty Media purchased it
Social media is neither sicial nor media, and it has speed up humanity's selfishness and greed.
I very much agree with the fact that social media and the idea of dramatizing the sport certainly made it popular (I was introduced to F1 in 2019 and watched my first race in 2021) but at the same time, F1 is loosing its soul because of those ideas. Social media has opened the window for some "fans" to attack drivers for even the most little thing and get away with it because social media exists, which I think is just unnecessary. As for the dramatization factor, I certainly believe a fair bit of fans that first heard of F1 through Drive to Survive and thought, Oh this show is really cool, without even knowing that some things in that show are blown out of proportion that when they first watch a race or a race that is usually pretty boring, they're shocked because they're like, hey this isn't what I saw in Drive to Survive. All it takes to be a real fan in my opinion is just bit of understanding of that F1 is not an entertainment based sport and the drivers are also human, like us. Sure, I may be a massive Ferrari and McLaren fan all the way, but I also have a huge amount of respect for Max Verstappen, because he has redefined the word dominance and has a pretty funny personality I can get on board with
On a positive note: I like how transparent the drivers are and that they show their training and what it takes to be an F1 driver on social media.
In my childhood (90s) the public opinion was "They are just driving a car, everyone can do that" while nowadays it is more accepted that they are highly trained and physically fit athletes which I think has a lot to do with social media showing these kind of things much more than TV ever did.
Examples are like Alonso cracking a nut with his neck or Rosberg who showed his training equipment
F1 fandom meet kpop fandom 😅 It’s all pretty gross
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@@lucatownsendracing miss you 🥺🥺
F1 went downhill after they got rid of grid girls
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Because of the grid girls? 😂
@@soundscape26 Yeah starting in the 70s I believe it started where, would stand on the grid before the parade lap with the driver number infront of their car. Until in 2017 I think FOM got rid of them due to the perceived sexism of having an attractive woman standing on the grid. But a key factor they didn’t consider is that they were there because they wanted to be. No one forced them. So banning grid girls was more of an insult to women in making the choice for them.
i still remember being so perplexed by the virtue signalling when they banned grid girls but then the US GPs has pom pom girls for their pre race event 😂😂
@@mtrps_ Grid girls were completely superfluous to the event.
"Virtue signalling" has been used so much that it has lost its meaning, just an expression thrown around whenever some change goes against one's preferences.
Social media in F1 has its positives and negatives like it does in any sport. So it’s not unique to F1.
Having said that, maybe because there’s only 20 F1 drivers on the grid. It does seem like some drivers get more attention/positive feedback/praise than needed (relative to what they achieved).
Or alternatively they get undeserved hate/criticism for no reason/something really small.
Example: Driver A may win a race or get a podium and some people act like it’s the greatest drive in history. When it wasn’t that incredible, just benefiting from the situation around them.
Or Driver B, may make a mistake/underdeliver and almost automatically they’re suddenly the worst driver on the grid and should lose their seat.
Good point there. There’s a million footballers, but 20 drivers..
@@MadeByPerspectiveExactly. Whereas with a footballer it’s seen as a team sport, it’s more the fault of the whole team if they lose not an individual player.
Whereas with F1, if a driver has a bad race the blame is usually placed entirely on the driver.
@@gameofender4463not really because if you have seen Messi and Ronaldo fanbases they be blaming them and them only for loses of all types, same with Neymar, or even older players like Pele or maradona, and not as influential players like let’s say Van persie or Wayne Rooney you never know it’s so dumb
I was really happy when (during Covid) a lot of people who never watched F1 started watching it, because suddenly you could talk with a lot more people about this fascinating sport I watched since like 2007-2008.
But meanwhile it gets more and more annoying if you see what stupid things some of those people blur out…
I've got to be honest as a Lewis fan since 2007 when i started liking him because i thought his helmet looked nice (I was 6) 2021 really started to make me toxic because I was too much on social media and the F1 Community. Now i don't engage in conversations or even write anything on their at all and it's so much better. I obviously still see the drama going on there but i just don't bother with it anymore. But of coourse not every F1 Fan on social media is toxic. The toxic fans are just louder
yeah I remember watching that race in Abu Dubai 3 years ago and I was excited for Max versteepnn winning the championship but some Lewis Hamilton fans wanted to say mean rude things about Max and their fans because Lewis Hamilton didn't win the 8th championship and I'm like look Max versteepnn deserves the championship whenever you like it or not but they just don't even want to call him a championship of the sport and they still complain about it today even you agree with them or get out it's like if you don't want to agree with them they say something about you that you don't like.
Yeah man it's stupid the all out wars online are insane. I think f1 would be better without drive to survive.
@@KidLatin27ngl you're sounding toxic youself lmao
@@ringoferrer2343 oh right sorry about that besides I'm not really a toxic guy.
Agreed. That's why I left basically.
Bernie Ecclestone didn't want F1 to be on social media or something like that. Gee, I wonder why. I admit I started to get into F1 in 2022 though I watched Lewis last win. I saw vids from FP1Will and RPM taking shots at F1 Twitter especially TeamLH and the Verstappen Shaggers.
I personally believe, that the toxic fans are a very small minority of all f1 fans present on social media, and they are very misrepresentative of the whole F1 community. In this case and in many cases in life, the ones who speak the loudest are heard the most, and toxic fans just speak the loudest…
The are definitely reminiscent of football fans
Are they just a small minority though?
Your beliefs are wrong unfortunately
Social media has ruined everything
1:26 I feel like this applies if you’re a motorsports fan in general like car go fast is basically my special interest
A lot of people who came to F1 from Drive to Survive are fans of the drivers like characters in their favourite sitcom or a K-Pop band. Terminally online and probably mentally unwell. Not to be engaged with.
I'm a new fan who hates drive to survive. Everyone talks about it like EVERYONE watches it. I didn't hear about drive to survive until after watching my first GP. Vegas GP got me into f1
Thank you for this video. I’ve been thinking ALL of these things. Social media has made people more toxic… it’s so sad
Social media, netflix and DTS fans have ruined F1
I'm 28 years old and I'm watching F1 from circa 2002 as a little kid with my parents. It makes me 22 years fan of F1. I have never exposed myself on social media about my favorite drivers and teams. I just watch Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's it. I have followed F1 on Instagram and get informations on that and that's it. This is my first time debating on F1 topic in my entire life. I understand the passion, okay.. let me tell you a story of one of guys that I knew. He was passionate about Fernando Alonso, he would talk about him 24/7. If you've said just one word against Alonso, he was willing to fight, but mostly people beat him. Same as those social media fans.. That's why I keep low profile on social media. It's healthier. I watch every race with joy just as that kid from 2002. ☺️
I admit, i have my rants from time to time... its normal, its a sport, like football where you have your favorite team and player, its part of the game, and we should all understand, that internet is internet, filled with trolls but also filled with cool and relaxed people... Sometimes people insult me and my crazy rants and ideas but i dont care, i actually think its sad and funny to receive such comments and feedback and always reply with a funny joke to calm people... you cant change people but you can ignore them and continue your life.
You hit the nail on the head with this one. I miss the 2000's
I love bacon egg and cheese biscuits
Good to know
This is the kind of civility we NEED.
When you're hammered at 4 AM and place a comment about the previous video you just saw. Been there❤
@@sgthulk9 this is unfortunately just how my brain works
Facts
"being stuck in the 2000s" i would rather take as a compliment!! :D
I remember going on F1 forums in the 2000s and was surprised with all the hate Alonso used to get, firstly from McLaren/Mika/Kimi fans, then Schumacher/Ferrari fans and then Hamilton/McLaren fans. It has always been there, just like other sports. It's just that Twitter gives it exposure that wasn't otherwise there. I'm sure Alonso fans were as bad before anyone accuses me of bias.
Alonso fans are the most toxic on social media !
twitter definitely provides a breeding ground for driver idolatry/ negativity more & has put a spotlight on it but nonetheless i still feel like there are a lot of people following F1 more so for drivers than any love or want to understand the sport itself. I don't wanna come off as shitting on them for supporting or loving a driver but it's the unbearable amounts of pettiness and immaturity on the very surface of things. another thing is that the fan base seems to have become a lot younger, they're more on traditional social media's than say motorsport forums. the immaturity of accounts can be really obvious, i figure they mostly all grow out of it
Toxicity is everywhere on the Internet, but the Internet isn't a real place. Just ignore it. Those people with nothing better to do in life than scream at strangers over a keyboard. They aren't worth your time. Most F1 fans aren't like that
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Ironically, I don't always agree with everything you say, which is one of the reasons I am subscribed & watch your videos. 😊 It's interesting! However, this was perfectly worded. Nice one!
I must say I do miss the feel of F1 in the 90's and 00's.
it's turned from a cool and relatively civil community to just absolute cringe-spec clout chasing and some absolute toxicity. So many posts in F1 team socials now are just shit like "Omg look at what ___ is wearing so cute"
Like, are you here for motor racing or are you here because cute boy?
Social Media removed my will to attend any F1 race. More than half of the people on the track is there for for social media attention. On-track presence is no longer about being a proper petrol-head. I look forward to see my true petrolheads nerds on the Nurburing 24h later this week.
are you listening Team LHate and VerstappenShaggers?
All f1 fandoms have toxicity. Yuki fans, Ricciardo fans, Alonso fans, Ocon fans... you name it.
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 but these two... It's like they actively try to piss each other off while being so damn egotistical they can't bare the thought their driver did something wrong so it's always another driver or team.
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 not even close man, also Ocon doesnt have any fans
@@miguelcebriancarrasco1907 Not many, but there are some people who give Ocon unnecessary praise and find it appealing that Ocon is the worst team mate a driver can have.
i’m mainly a nascar fan but I was a fan before DTTS and the disrespect that I receive for being a nascar fan or just defending the indy 500 as “real racing” is really sad. all the new fans are F1 fans and not motorsports fans we need more motorsports fans not F1 fans.
F1 was NEVER the pristine temple of All Things Holy that you seem to think. Since the beginning, it's been a cesspool of politics and greed. Piling tribal toxicity on the already steaming heap really doesn't change much.
The question is - what hasn't social media ruined?
I spend a lot of time there, since I've always worked on the internet and create content on video social networks, but I also try not to focus too much on what people post because I don't want this to alter my opinion or perception of things, but if you do too much, it can ruin absolutely ANYTHING. Sports, movies, series, music, books, video games, and of course politics and your vision of society.
I don't think if my way of thinking is right and I don't necessarly tell people to do the same, but at least I'm still able to enjoy things. I think it's really important to be capable of enjoying things, whatever the others say/think. Otherwise there's no point in having hobbies.
I agree totally. I started watching in '91 and went to my first race at Silverstone in '92. I'm a big fan of the 80s. Back then, I was almost seen as a weirdo for being an F1 fan. I used to memorise full race results as a kid and recite them (insane lol). Of course people like that still exist, but they are much harder to find!
I remember when I was 8 years old my one and only interest was formula one and I remember struggling to make friends because no one else appeared to show any interest in the sport. Now I'm 24, and everyone appears to be a fan and I'm like bruh where were you all when I was crying out for fellow F1 friends
Thanks for the video! I will never forgive what this toxic F1 mob did to Grosjean. He was the total laughing stock of F1 fans on social media. If one of those from the mob was the recipient of that huge pile of toxicity, they would have ended up in a mental hospital. Yet, those same mentally weak people had no problem abusing Grosjean left and right. When he had his horrible accident in Bahrain, I watched these same pretentious abusers do a 180 and idolize Grosjean making him almost a godlike figure. They noticed that publicly showing empathy garnered likes, so they changed their tone. Those people don't actually give a hoots about Grosjean: It's all just for narcissistic elation. Totally selfish. Anyway, do you think that anybody apologised for being a pathetic abuser for years? No, of course not! It was a wonderful opportunity to hide dirty laundry underneath the carpet. I am an F1 fan since the late 90's. There was a time when fans used to discuss sidepods, front wings, gearbox casings, rear wings, suspensions, exhausts, driving styles and so on. Today, fans make jokes about Craig Scarborough's shirt when he wants to show them some updates of a car. My guess is that is the reason these videos aren't posted on UA-cam anymore. But might be wrong on that. And why do they all talk about Max, Charles, Fernando and Lando? They all like to behave as if they are close buddies who can use their first names. It's cringe. Nobody would ever just say Lionel when talking about Messi.
I also remember Verstappen asking the FIA if they could ban alcohol consumption because the behaviour of those so-called fans was getting out of hand. We all know Verstappen is not a prude but if he himself gets annoyed, then it really means something...
I could write an entire text about studies showing the negative impact social media has on emotional development and the ability to regulate oneself. It would take too long, but it is obvious that people's heads are turning into blancmange. It's not good and doesn't do justice to the technological marvel we are witnessing today. Never in my life would I have thought that a power unit with more than 50% thermal efficiency would be possible and that they could withstand several races. That would have been unimaginable years ago. We need a lesson in gratitude. It's absolutely needed!
The merger if the totally unhinged teamLH fans with the amazingly friendly Ferrari fans should be interesting. Great video
Social media has ruined everything, not just F1.
That’s what I said
It’s so bad in MotoGP too. Can’t stand the die-hard fans of some riders. And it’s not just the new unknowing, lack-of- respect fans who have come in recent years, it’s also the old timers. People want to rather argue instead of celebrating a sporting feat in todays world.
“The average Joe knew Michael Schumacher…” No…no, they didn’t. Especially not here in Canada.
I went to my first race in the womb. I’ve been watching for 40 years. Social media has *revived* Formula 1.
i live in canada and i knew about Michael Schumacher before i knew f1
i remember playing f1 on ps1 and i always picked his car
F1 fans try not to gate keep the most popular motorsport in the world: Level Impossible
Facts this the one
Couldn’t agree more. A great victim to this horrendous fanbase online is Esteban Ocon. People are so toxic to him, it hurts to see. Whatever your opinions are of Esteban, he doesn’t deserve the constant negativity he gets online. Sometimes when F1 post about a great overtake Esteban has done in the last race on Insta, the top comment will be “I don’t know why but I just really hate Ocon” like seriously? Comments like this get thousands of likes and are horrible. The drivers definitely see these comments, and I hope it doesn’t affect their mental health. What separates it from bullying? Dislike a driver all you want, but there’s no need to bash them like that
Honestly I agree, I don't like Ocon as a driver, but do to the recent views of f1 teammates shifting (because of pr for the Netflix fanbase) away from them being main opponent to being supposed best friends, that's when a lot of drivers suddenly started getting hate when they really are just their to prove themselves to being the best. Ocon doesn't try to hide the fact he wants to be the best, doesnt help that his three most recent teammates have some of the biggest stan cultures (I would know, because I honestly like all three of his former team mates but their fanbases are insufferable) surrounding him, so every single mistake, or even incidents that he doesnt get involved with ends with the stans at his throat with pitchforks, Ricciardo and Norris got a lot of hate at mclaren because it had seemed that the dream pairing of the supposed funny guys wasn't actually as funny. This is still affecting Ricciardo to this day, people hate on him for everything he does now. Hamilton went from being a down to earth guy with his own thoughts to becoming an unlikable pr merchant celebrity. He feels like a robot that says everything the media tells him to, and now he has one of the worst stan culture fanbases on the planet.
Everyone who is team mates with Alonso (especially if they god forbid end up challenging him and i say this as an amAlonso fan myself) gains a massive bashing from his stans on the internet who will blatantly throw out alleged misinformation towards both the team and drivers.
@@machspeed20 agreed. And now look, Esteban’s put out a statement on his Instagram regarding these comments. Terrible to see this. What has the sport become. It used to be for people who had genuine interest in the racing, now it seems to be a cult for whatever driver you like. I know the comments online don’t reflect all of the fans, but they are the loudest voices. It doesn’t help that the drama is influenced pretty largely by Netflix, Sky Sports and other content creators all across social media, heck even the official F1 page is guilty of this
Another one that comes to mind is Nicolas latifi after that night in abu dhabi. Hell, he and his family received death threats over his crash.
I always thought F1 was cool, I was a kid in the Schumacher days, and will admit the Netflix show piqued my interest. Alot of my friends are now very vested in F1, we all have different favorite drivers and luckily have civilized conversations! Great video
Preferred it when the BBC had coverage over F1
I love how bottas was there casually with cycling kit and nobody cared 4:32
Saying what's been on so many people's minds! Cheers mate, great video.
F1 is like football now. You have hooligans supporting their drivers relentlessly to the point were a portion of the fanbase erupts in fights. It’s what happens when a sport gets wildly popular. F1 is probably one of the top 3 biggest sports here in the UK, behind football and maybe boxing. It’s never been like that until recently.
As a byproduct of the times, social media has made it easy to insult without having to stand directly in front of the person/people you’re insulting. This is especially effective for socially awkward, physically inept, mentally unstable losers that often make up 90% of F1’s Twitter drama. If everybody can hold the mic and say what they want at the same time, you’re inevitably going to come across these people. It’s not necessarily a good/bad thing, it’s just what social media does.
Thank you! This video was sorely needed
It's almost as if people forgot how to simply enjoy things, how to simply have fun. Everything has an agenda, everything is drama nowadays. This goes for F1, for gaming, music, movies, whatever. All the fanbases feel like they're on the knife-edge at all times. Hobbies and interests i feel are supposed to be that place where you go to relax and enjoy with people who share the same interests - not a place to start fights over every little thing
I was at the first Ozzy F1 race in Adelaide 1989 and I will never forget how awesome it was.long live F1.
I don't think Magnusssen & Ocon are anyone's favorite drivers 😅
It's getting impossible to defend their actions over the years.
There will be danish people rooting for Magnussen. Ocon can be harder because there are different France drivers.
Some people love this kind of driver.
Nobody needs to be 'defending' or attacking anyone, this is exactly the behavior this video is about.
I hate Lance Stroll
You'd be surprised. I've seen multiple Ocon fans on twitter who have been fighting with anyone and everyone over the Monaco crash. They talk about him as if he's the best on the grid, and an angel on and off track. It's exactly that parasocial kpop stan mindset that these lunatics are creating in the sport.
@@GeoffWulf hes not even top 5, what are they on
Ps: you owe us an apology for refusing to admit Ricciardo needs to leave F1 being middle aged in a development team keeping Lawson and everyone else on the sideline for his social media personality. Besides that, we are all alike!
Thank you for making such videos. Ur content feels so relaxing to watch. what u shared in this video has troubled me for a long time as some of the ppl i know do act very weird for their favourite driver. Like for example the Monaco Gp was shit a race. yes the result was very wholesome and even I am very happy about it but ppl are acting as if it was the best race in 10 years.
Monaco in general doesnt produce epic races but this time even the strategy part went away.
All in all
I always look forward to watch your videos
The comment section is also so mature and civilised
Thank you
I just watch races. I could care less about the rest. More people should have that mentality. Sports is a privilege, not a right, so just be kind.
Social media potentiated something that is affecting everything in the world right now and you pointed out: fanatism. This obsession and impunity to be free to be aggressive and violent over something/someone behind a screen and spend so much time of your life for nothing. it's sad because is killing everything, not just this sport.
You do realize that you can just, like, not read social media, right? It doesn't affect the races at all. Who cares. Stop reading Twitter if it upsets you, I sure don't.
I used to watch F1 in the 2000s as a kid, and I rediscovered it some 5 years ago. It is MUCH better now. In 2000s we had one race on TV with minimal information, if you wanted more the best you could do is read a magazine. Now we get analyses, radio compilations, onboards, mid field overtakes etc. on UA-cam. It makes even the boring races interesting. And even the main broadcast is much better with more (technical) detail.
Honestly I feel the same way. What really freaks me out now is how vicious people are about the partners of drivers. When I was younger it wasn’t even a thing to know who a driver was dating. I really wish some people would just take a few steps back from their socials and touch some grass!
Bang on. However I feel like if a past f1 fan introduces f1 to a friend and not them just watching DTS, new fans can be just as good. I can't really consider myself an old fan when I started watching in 2016 when I was 9 but we watched Bahrain 2024 with a friend and despite it being a pretty boring race he still enjoyed it. Fast forward to 7 races later and now he knows about drivers like clay regazzoni, vitaly petrov, pedro diniz. Kinda crazy. It's possible but the new fanbase is super toxic
Change “social” to “Liberty” and you’ve hit the nail on the head
Oh come on! Don’t be so stupid! Liberty Media haven’t ruined F1!
What upsets me is our government spends millions supporting f1 , Moto GP, Supercars etc and I have to drive hours and spend stupid money to just get access to a kart track. And urban sprawl is taking away kart tracks, MX tracks, speedway and motor racing circuits every day.
WHEN SCHUMY PARKED AT RASSCASS IN2006
THE MAGIC DIED
WHEN V10 ENGINES ENDED THAT WAS THE NAIL IN COFFIN
A whole video on the DTS insult.... I've never watched an episode. I like racing period, F1, WEC, bicycle racing. Anonymity is the problem, people say things on the internet that they would never say face to face.
Good video my friend. Fanbases holding onto grudges from incidents ages ago is not healthy. End of the day these drivers are risking their lives for our entertainment and to win. They deserve more respect than they're given. Fanbases for certain drivers being toxic isn't something I like. I inagine the drivers themselves dislike it too.
The biggest problem is that all the drama the Netflix fans are talking about doesn't even exist.
Also sometimes I think the media also ruins the sport, like the new commentators that are always yelling and have no analasys, which makes it seem more like show.
Social media has spoiled almost every interest I have had
I can absolutely agree with everything. Since social media era you can barely talk normally about F1 with anyone normally.
Well I am actually less online now, especially after uninstalling Twitter, since I just want to enjoy races.
As someone who started watching F1 in early 2022, I 100% agree. I see a lot more people caring about the culture and drama rather than the actual racing, and the fans (specifically the fan accounts on places like Twitter) are some of the worst people you can come across. I don't like gatekeeping for this type of stuff because as the video states, you shouldn't have to learn every single thing to be a fan; coming for the drama though doesn't make you a fan though, and you should look for something else if you plan to only care about personalities. It's racing, not reality TV.
It's why I've migrated to WEC and IMSA - while the races are not nearly as common, it's fun to see racing, and strictly racing.
Seeing everyone complain about how Monaco was boring and had no overtakes is the most frustrating thing. People who make this complaint are either DTS fans or new fans that just want to see something to stimulate their need for constant action or else their attention spans just give out. Its Monaco, its the exception of the rule and most f1 fans know that but the people on twitter are loud even though they are a small minority.
Well, though not to be taken absolutely literally you said it all "everyone"... this includes both hardcore fans and casuals. I don't demand action all the time but goodness me, after lap 1 the race was an absolute nothingness. No overtakes (4 I think) and barely any attempts to. And since pitstops were made unnecessary by the red flag there wasn't even a chance for any strategic gamble.
its literally the drivers themselves who are complaining about the race being dull and boring though.
If you’re a driver and the team tell you ‘you cannot push for any part of the race you are better off driving slowly’ how would you feel
Im sorry but, even if its monaco and its obvious u cant overtake, the real reason people hate monaco is because the red flag killed any hopes of strategy. Everyone just stayed on the same tyres and paraded to the end. Thats why people say its boring.
Still doesn't mean that these cars wouldn't be too big especially for Monaco. And Pirelli, please make the tyres less durable.
I am not as pessimistic
F1 is seeing new life , and whenever I see people in F1 merch at my university for example ,no matter which team's , its always a wholesome momment
i have been an avid F1 fan since the mid 80s - i have been runnning a Bnb the past 10 years - had probably 5000 customers - I have some F1 paraphernalia on the wall which triggered conversation with anyone interested in F1 - which was all of about 5 of them - approx 1 in 1000 people. Which really makes me question the claims that there are 500 million viewers of each race.
Drive to Survive is the WORST THING that has happened to F1.
Previously, F1 grew organically and even people that picked a driver to support fanatically, still understood the beauty of the sport.
Since Liberty took over in 2017, EVERYTHING went way worse. First the iconic logo is gone, then the cars became way too long and the audience became a "mob". I watched this sport since 2005 and since last year I've distanced myself from F1.
Schumi's domination still had way more people claiming pole and wins. 2005-2012 was amazing (every single year of them). Even Vettel's 9 wins and 4 years of Mercedes brought us interesting stories.
But 2021 was the turning point. With Covid and Netflix, even from the first race, mob started to poison F1. That's why in races such as Imola,Silverstone, Monza,São Paulo and Jeddah, appropriate punishment couldn't be given to offenders because of "not want to influence championship". In reality, they wanted to set things up for a "final showdown". They got it, but with the worst decision ever in F1, to only letting "4 cars" between championship contenders.
They got the money and audience, but they killed the spirit of the sport. And since 2023 season (no contention) there is no reason to continue watching anymore. Even F1 Manager is more interesting than this procession sport.