Monster Hunter Fatalis Arc Journal 3 - Designing a build against AT Velkhana
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- In 2021 I pledged to hunt every monster in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne to prove myself as a proper hunter. These are my journals.
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200 hours in, finally embraces what this series really is: Excel Spreadsheet Hunter
Thats just the mid game. true late game is vanity hunting
@@Mercman1010 we need to look fabulous, of course
Don't forget crown, fashion and endemic life hunting !
"I want divine blessing".
YES.
Play the way you want, that's the spirit
Divine blessing lv 5 is mandatory for Fatalis and AT Velkhana unless you are an god tier speedrunner who can dodge or use an weapon that can guard
Personally I would rather use Tool Specialist 5. I think Divine Blessing is worthless because of the RNG proc. I could also just have terrible luck...
But I have beaten Fatalis Solo with multiple weapons, Charge Blade beeing the only guard capable of them, and never needed any Devine Blessing. I would still never consider me a speedrunner or top tier. You can go watch the two speedrunns I made here on YT and tell me if I am that good or if I am mediocor at best. I would be very interested in what other people think about my Skill level since I have a hard time determining where my Skill is. I think I am not that good and I also think that Divine Blessing isn't necessary. I would go as far as to say its worthless.
Happy Hunting!
@@nicholasmarquez3399 that's a bit of an overstatement. I found both to have one of the most punishing, yet learnable movesets. I've killed both without any DB, just by learning the fights. And I'm definitely far from a "god tier speedrunner". So is it comfy? Sure. But definitely not mandatory.
Edit: With Greatsword and I'm definitely not guarding with it lol
@@Takary-2004 First time I beat fatalis i used 2 piece gold rathian & 3 piece lunastra for both DB5 & TS5, i can assure you DB is not worthless xD You're RNG with is i likely just terrible
@@Cap_The_Captain Yeah probably. That is also the reason why I don't have a Challenger+4 after 2k hours :(
But at least I am close to finishing all crowns and both 999s :)
AT Val and Fatalis were the most fun fights, the whole process of building and optimizing gear, the satisfaction of conquering them. Just amazin.
Idk about optimization there, they made the mistake of releasing her after fatalis and so it was pretty easy to beat her with the fatalis armor since it's so op
I cannot stress enough how much I loved fighting AT Velkhana with my SnS
I dunno man, AT Val hazak is kinda just a Val with more hp tho
@@Chronostra I think he meant AT Velkhana
@@deinonychus1948 ah, I see
Yes, making your own armor and skills is such a nice thing to experience especially in MH, I don't think other games gives you that kinda feeling. You're definitely doing pretty good. Hunting the same monster with different sets will give you an idea of what gives you a better edge in the hunt. But don't forget the armor skills will depend on your type of playstyle, speedrunners go all offensive compared to regular hunters who pick the passive skills that works best for them and their weapons. Best of luck and thanks for all these fun journals so far
I'd strongly recommend against playing through any monster hunter game, but especially world due to how decoration grinding works, just to learn a new weapon. If I were you, I'd just use the same character so you don't need to spend ages grinding out parts or decorations that are neccessary for a weapon, since you could be screwed over for 10s of hours because of RNG
Yeah I won’t restart a new save file. Have to think of a way to approach it while maintaining my current progress and gear
Agree.
I just use the same character so i don't have to grind countless hours again
@@HeyJayOfficial just use the basic starter gear and start from low rank hunts, only upgrade once you have done the required hunt to get the materials like you would before
that's how I went back to early GU content, since that game is so inflated and 100% takes ages
@@HeyJayOfficial self imposed rarity to rank of mission for gear might be enough difficulty management while simultaneously getting you more intimate with every monsters armor and weapons.
Seems like a solid plan. If your goal is to beat each monster with a greatsword, say, then once you've beaten Anjanath once, you can use any Anja armour and greatswords you have available (even if that entails using a Ruiner Nergigante Switch Axe to grind out parts easier)
If you want to get more decorations it's easiest to use the steamworks in seliana during a festival. set it to 10x output and farm silver melding tickets. you can get the fuel for that either via mindless guiding lands farm of mining outcrops or the special zinogre event quest.
the silver and steel tickets give really bad decos though :(. The tempered zinogre and tempered teostra event quests are pretty good, yielding a couple sealed feystones each run, which have the best pools for decos.
11:33 This brings me so much joy. This is exactly what the mh community wanted to share with you ever since your MH Rise demo review. It takes time for it to click, but once it clicks, there is literally nothing like this series. Most of mh players have been there and really wanted to share that special feeling with you. I'm happy you got to experience it
With each Journal entry, the more proud I am of you. Great job hunter!
I don’t recommend another play through, but I HIGHLY recommend trying the other weapons now that you have more experience. All weapons are amazing in their own way, and once you have the experience to know the game knowing each weapon comes easily.
Advice on elemental resistance: eating elemental resistance as your pre hunt meal adds a BIG chunk of elemental resistance to your totals. If you want to avoid blights, that's your ticket.
Edit: also against AT velkhana, I heavily advise use of the iceproof mantle. It not only negates the blights but the ice resistance it provides cuts a hefty chunk of damage off the most dangerous attacks.
I'm glad you found out about Elderseal for this fight. This is not really explained properly in the game, especially for this fight.
Arch Tempered Velkhana is unique in that her Ice Armor increases her defense by a large amount. The more armor she has and the bluer the screen, the higher her defense.
This is what elderseal is used for, and breaks her out of this armored state more quickly. This is why it shaves off so much time since you are massively increasing the window of her unarmored state.
Without Elderseal, this hunt becomes incredibly difficult due to the time constraint. I'm glad you found this out beforehand, it should save you headaches later on!
Elderseal or fixed damage spam.
Mortars, stickies, impact phials and shells goes boom boom, no?
Haven’t gone back to Velkhana in a while, but doesn’t her ice armor broke off once you shave 2 or 3 parts off. Elderseal speed that up sure, but I remember it kicked in at a really bad time, like when I’m just about to shave off 2/3 ice parts. Never knew about the damage resistance part of AT Velk though.
I'm happy that Jay finally thought, "Chat is good, but I need to make my own" mindset. Its not a game if you just let people backseat you. Just chill end enjoy it the way you would 😁
i wasnt able to be there for last week's Stream, but I'm glad that you're finally playing the game how YOU want. I've been trying to get you to do whatever you want to do instead of chat ever since the Alatreon Salutations. That's half the reason I sent you on that journey up the mountain for the Snow White butterbur, as much as I say it was simply the Glory of the Open Road. Felyne Safeguard is great and all, but more importantly it was a reprieve from chat being chat and throwing you to the wolves in your post-Monki state of euphoria.
You got this! Your build is pretty solid and you should be able to beat both AT and fatalis. I'm excited to see you do it.
👏 You are explaining the monster hunter experience that a lot of us, old players, seek in each game.
MHW and IB have lots of this moment if you start early. Both versions did this really well.
And the satisfaction from downing a monster using the set you build yourself, priceless.
Jay, I'm so proud of you for finally getting into the real gameplay of the game -- the math!
Divine Blessing and Health Boost are meta defensive skills btw so ignore anyone saying not to use them. I would however advise against using Defense Boost since even with seven points of it it gives less defense that one point of Health Boost and thus isn't worth the investment.
My tip for AT Velk is put your aggression in your punishments. When your punishment window is done, be defensive while positioning yourself with the next punish opportunity in mind.
Save your crystal boulders for when after she limps back to the first area since she's most aggressive when near death.
This was such a great hype video for the stream tonight...I absolutely cannot wait!!!
Glad to hear about the hunter's journey from your perspective. Made me reminisce about my own Monster Hunter journey. As a Heavy Bowgun main, planning builds and ammo preparation is definitely one of the most fun I've had in gaming.
Can't wait to see you conquer AT Velkhana and Fatalis.
It was a thrill when I beat AT Velkhana and Fatalis solo in back-to-back fights.
It has been a joy seeing you enjoy Monster Hunter and grow your confidence. You got this!
You’re starting to get why we all love Monster Hunter.
THE JOURNEY.
It’s Looking at impossible in the face and say “bring it on.” I have played so many games and series all these years, and only MH is the one who gives me these emotions.
Go at it dude, the finish line is there. You just have to cross it….
Dude every time I watch one of your videos about monster hunter seeing it through the eyes of someone getting into it and learning it just gets me so exited and nostalgic for my memories with monster hunter and inspires me to go back and beat the monster hunter games I haven't finished yet
AT Velkhana has been released after Fatalis and was balanced around Fatalis equipment (without spoiling, it is very powerful). Even with it, she is a challenge (meme videos were mocking players who thought she was going to be a walk in the park with Fatalis equipment, only to be destroyed by her). Fighting her without Fatalis equipment is going to be more challenging than Fatalis himself and the clock is going to be your greatest enemy. But beating her will be your greatest victory in the game.
I’ve gotta be honest, I needed fatalis gear to beat AT velkhana
Not fatal for me, but al atleast
It's doable with Alatreon gear and high ice res, a high Elderseal or Fire element weapon and Iceproof mantle for extra damage reduction
Great to see that you're enjoying the tailor-made experience of hunting for yourself in the game. It's good that you've come to understand "what do I want?", "what do I have (resources)?", and "what can I make, and/or how much can I make from my available resources?" Hey Jay problem solving skill leveled-up!
Hint: you can upgrade an equipped low-power elderseal weapon up to high-power elderseal.
You're doing pretty well figuring things out in the game, so I wanted to leave something for you to think about on your own. You might be able to find more alternative solutions.
That's the spirit man! You beat velkie and fatty with what works for you. Don't let the negative feedback effect you
9:46 that's what i did at the time: didn't have any fatalis gear(maybe a couple of armor pieces, but nothing in a usable state). So i used the Nergigante SNS, and that's how i killed AT Velk.
As you said the stats on Nergi weapons are more than decent( i think they're actually much better than any Alatreon weapon). That HUGE white sharpness is gonna help you a lot, since you don't run master's touch, and more importantly it has a power phial that's much more useful than the element one on the Alatreon SwAxe.
good for you. i'm glad you took my and others words to heart. play the game you want to play, not the game others want to play. looking forward to both victory journals in the future. happy hunting.
DUDE! Its happening! Its THE THING, can't really explain it but its the thing that happens to any worthy Hunter!!! You gonna give Fatalis not proof of a hero or a warrior or anything like that...You gonna give him The Proof...Of a MONSTER HUNTER!!!
Seriously this is so cool and crazy enough, you just gave this Hunter who's been playing for a long time something they thought they knew already. I used to make my own builds in World (I was addicted to Earplugs) and had fun but lately in Rise I just been focused on being meta and kinda lost my way for a while but now thanks to you theres a new spark!!! So thanks fellow Hunter, guess theres still much to learn even for me. May the Sapphire Star guide your way.
I’m pumped for the next journal.
I like the way you're thinking now. Take what you have and make it work.
The community challenges are the best idea ever. It does show that your builds are fine, you need more practice against that monster.
Hey Jay, AT Velkhana has a special aura tied to its ice armor that makes it stronger the more it’s on so that’s why you need elderseal.
AT Velkhana helmet with 4-piece Fatalis is absolutely godly for dual blades.
Definitely agree that building a set is one of the best parts of monster hunter. I especially enjoy it in Rise, where it's so easy to grind monsters for mats that you can make some really fun and experimental builds. It really gets you super ingrained in the mechanics of monster hunter and finding your favorite way to play. It's definitely less of the case in world as decos can be a grind to get, whereas in Rise you just forge the ones you want. On the flip side though, you're incentivized to optimize in world a lot more than Rise due to Iceborne existing. Waiting for that expansion with Rise.
Oh heck yeah. That's the vibe!
Figuring out and researching sets is easily my favorite part of the game and, in my opinion, the true endgame of MH. It's awesome to see that you seem to like it!
It makes me smile so much when I hear Hey Jay talking about his breaktrough on Monster Hunter. Thanks for your videos. And btw do what YOU want. Don't listen those guys that says "divine blessing is a cheat" etc
It’s been a pleasure to witness your growth
As an Insect Glaive main, I approve of this message. IG was made to fight Velk, you can safely vault over all of her ice BS, it's quite wonderful. AT Velk would be much easier with some Fatty armor, but I applaud your desire to take her down first!
Glad to hear that you discovered how great evade window can be. If you aren’t doing it already and if it's possible with your armour then I recommend combining ice resist and eating for elemental resistance to reach a high enough resistance to not need blight resistance.
I'd personally really recommend considering power prolonger for your SA builds. The alatreon arms are an easy way of getting level 3. It lets you be in charged sword mode way longer which equals more damage and more invasion sensations!
I second this! Tbh the 4 piece Alatreon set with Safi or Raging Brachy legs is solid or 3 piece Alat+2 piece R.Brachy is nice balance of resistance, damage, Health Boost and Agitator secret
There’s all kinds of great meta builds in the MonHun community. But the Best Build is the one you put together yourself and you’re proud of.
Your set looks like a legit end game set (not counting Fatalis stuff of course).
jey unlock min-maxing ultra instinct, Im proud of you, Im sure i have as many hours min-maxing different types of builds that I have hunting monsters, i just love making Builds
The only advice I want to offer once again, is if you feel like you take too much damage still. Get the Iceproof mantle. Give it a shot, and feel the world of difference it makes against AT Velkanas attacks.
Crafting your own ideal build... you're a true hunter now.
I was hoping this would happen. Once you realize you know enough that all the game's mechanics seem manageable when you think about them that's the final "click". You're now able to achieve any task you set your mind in in Monster Hunter.
I'd call you officially a full fledged hunter at this point. Fatalis should be afraid.
What a legend! Good luck hunter.
About the divine blessing use, it's easy: if it's in the game is intended to be used. There's this "hate" to defensive skills due to the older games, where usually on an end game set you get to put together only a handful of skills; so going full dps and killing the monster the fastest is the safest start once you learn the hunt. However, in world there's much more room for skills and it's actually a good choice to slot in divine blessing (the meta isn't always the answer!)
Tip:if you break 3 parts of its ice armor(you can break the head,wings,body and forearms) you get a massive opening for damage. Also if you drop the 2 crystals in the area you will break the ice armor of the wings which makes it noticeably easier to get that massive knockdown
My favorite set ever had featured Attack up XL (because i like seeing XL for the ego boost, this was before damage numbers) HG earplugs(dont like being stopped by roars, feels powerful to ignore them) Speed Eating +2 (For the following skill) and Meat Lover.
Meat Lover was not a great skill, but i just loved the vibe of killing a dinosaur and eating it raw. It wasnt meta by any means but i enjoyed it and had great success solo and online in a game quite a bit more difficult than iceborne. Yeah you need SOME degree of power but honestly you can get away with almost anything
Again, nothing wrong with DB5. You miss out on other DPS skills sure, but your DPS hits 0 when you’re dead.
Use whatever you want.
Also, Safi legs for more Crit Boost if you want it.
Ignore the meta, ignore other people's biases against what is legitimate or good to bring to the fight. If you like it, bring it. The thing that finally clicked with me and got me to be able to solo Fatalis within the time limit was full Evade Extender. Being able to clear larger distances rolling meant I needed to sheath my CB Savage Axe less, which saved enough time to finish him without timing out.
Resuscitate is better than blight resist 3, imo. if you proc it you get stamina reduction which cancels out the ice blight and on top of that you get evade window 3 or 4 for free. All in a level 1 deco slot.
For Divine Blessing: Watch the latest 3rd Fleet Podcast (if you havent already). Gajin and Ruri dedicated a whole section to you. Both are wise Hunter and their advice is pretty clear.
Also eat full Vegetables + Feyline Moxie, that should boost your ice defense way above 20. This is pretty much what i eat for every challenging fight
In all serious here, you're already at pro skills than alot of people I've seen who played the series since the first installment. It's already been a few months and you gotten scary good at this game, so I know you'll shatter AT Val in no time so let that victory fuel you to CLAP Fatty like Rajang with a Kirin!
'so I started writing down all my offensive skills...'
Out boy is becoming a man :')
Hey, the game keeps giving when you keep digging. Superb job so far honestly. The fact that you made it this far and you're just kind of getting more of the basics like armor building down this late! Lol keep at it the finale awaits thee.
Since i just got my new Gamer Rig ill be starting my Journey soon! Tbh ive been very sceptical about Worlds art style because i prefer the old style games not in combat but in its charms but Jay has inspired me to pledge to atleast finish world base IF i start
oh you better start!
World has the art style of the original mh1, mh2 and mh3. It's more natural scenic. 4th gen is when high saturated colors and a lot of the cute aspects were introduced (especially generations and gu)
I highly recommend using a mix of Golden Rath and Lunastra armor to get Lvl 5 Divine Blessing and lvl 5 Tool Specialist. I overused temporal and ice mantle until I beat AT Velk and then used the Velk Y armor with a great sword to finally kill Fatalis.
in highschool i would stay up sometimes just to manually configure armor skills on my phone; id get really excited when i shuffled things till they clicked 😁
Gonna have to be THAT guy here and say that elder seal for AT velk is a BAD idea. Raging brachs weapons are head and shoulders above the pre fatalis completion, and while the first elder seal proc comes easy enough, the second is so ridiculously high in requirement you might as well not even bother, the great damage of a raging brach weapon will more easily allow you to break ice armor and get a topple.
Really good to see how much you have grown as a hunter. That build you made is pretty good for what you have. Don't let the haters deter you from divine blessing. It is a valid skill. Even MR999s use it against fatalis. Can't wait to see your fatty clear. Congrats man.
AT Velkhana is so much fun! I used Evade Gunlancing! So satisfying to dodge the ice pillar!
Evade Lancing is old school right? I remember hearing about it when I decided to learn GL and accidentally stumbled across that build/playstyle, which led me to better understand evading Brute Tigrex's roar and eventually getting CB slays against Brute Grex
@@painsenpai01 I know it’s amazing! But in rise theres a slight delay with your hunter. In world after doing a forward thrust when you back hop. It hops right away after the action. In rise for some reason after the forward thrust. There’s a delay before it jumps backwards.
And it would be so cool if you re-fought some monsters with a new weapon! One of the greatest things about MonHun is it can feel like an entirely different game depending on what you use. From helicoptering through the air on the Glaive … to standing steadfast and immovable with the Lance … to dodging and slicing your way past enemy guard with the Sword and Shield … to unloading a entire magazine of fullauto bullets with a Wyvernheart Bowgun.
As an SnS main I’m biased and would recommend you play that. But it would be great to see you play whatever calls to you!
(If you pick Long Sword a good portion of the MH community might mock you and call you a Weeb, but be assured we’re just jealous and cranky that LS is pretty much one of the highest damage, most popular among players, and seems to get most consideration from Capcom)
Use divine blessing if you want. MonsterHunter lets you build the playstyle that works for you. Don't let negative nancies bring you down! Real hunters support you.
*sniff* they grow up so fast !
Jay, you could get yourself a crit boost charm ^^
Go Hey Jay! Build your own build! Kudos for making a pretty decent build as well.
Don't forget to upgrade your Master's Charm to 5 after killing Arch Tempered Velkhana!
I'm happy that you were so close to kill her in the last stream and I'm excited for the next stream.
I can see the improve in velkhana fight better than Alatreon fight but the problem will be the time.
I do recommend going after fatalis first before AT velkhana. Its so nice to get that end game armor then pit it against AT velkhana rather than getting fatty armor but having defeated already all the monsters so there's really no other big target/goal to test out the best armor in the game.
After i watched your video, I tried to hunt AT Velk again.
The results: 5% health, 3 minutes left. Even with AT armor sets and Fatalis GS, she still kick my ass.
That’s the spirit hunter! We are all with you!
The Council is still watching you and is apeased by your progression.
Never feel bad about using Divine Blessing. Most people saying "omegalul carried by divine blessing" probably never take their temporal mantles from any of their builds anyways.
THIS is the true MH Journey
Making sets. Adjust decorations. Getting every skills you need to take down your target no matter what people try to back seat you. That's the charms of Monster Hunter.
I see your set and that's good enough. The only thing left is to study the monster pattern. I know you can do it Jay. I wish you luck.
The divine blessing naysayers can be ignored without missing anything of value
He's becoming one of us, the menu hunter
Don't listen to the chat bro do what makes u comfortable, it'll be way easier and better if u follow your way. No hunter is the same and u shouldn't be like anyone else. And I was just about to tell you about the Elder seal 😆 I'm happy that you're doing your own research but yeah it gives raw dragon damage when you go into your discharge so see if you could do that often, and stay to the right of Velkana (your right). Carry Ice proof and Evasion Mantle it eases the fight up alot. But I enjoy your resolve tho ngl you're not giving up 😆 that's the will of fire 🔥 right there 🙌💯 and you're officially a Switch Axe main.
He's making his own set? What's he doing?
"He's beginning to believe"
This is your playthrough and I don't want to pressure you or anything but, AT Velkhana is usually played after Fatty because of a reason. She's the closure of Iceborne, the flagship that sends you away from the new world and testing whether you've conquered Iceborne or not, just like how AT Nerg kicked my ass back then. Sure Fatty is the final boss of the world of MH but AT Velkhana is like a personal send-off letter to you from Iceborne, and when her final ice breaks, you'll realize that winter has truly slept. Just my thoughts tho, I'm in no place to judge. Good luck on the last 2!
Yup Hey Jay Yup the lads
A quicker way to get good with a new weapon is doing the Greatest Jagras hunt till you're confident with any kind of rank weapon (doesnt matter if high/master rank).
Build up confidence then move on to high rank sos. And continue from there to master rank sos.
Learned greatsword in the space of 2 weeks just doing that.
Before reaching MR100, you can augment weapons and armor that are not rarity 12. You can definitely face fatalis and at velk.
So you cant augment some armor like elder dragon armor until mr100, but a lot of other armor in the game can be augmented for defense. You can even augment the frostfang barioth LS.
🙏 Not everything is behind mr100
hey Jarvis!
As a GS user, AT Velkhana made Fatalis POSSIBLE for me. Frostcraft is AMAZING.
I personally really enjoy starting a fresh save file. I understand why most people are hazarding you against it but when i restart I find there's less pressure to grind to get to the end so you can just play it and enjoy it. You may still need to grind but for me there's no rush to do so.
Insect Glaive in RISE is amazing!!! love it so much. I been wanting to play other weapons but man oh man insect glaive I awesome. Rise go with assist type, believe you'll have the most fun with that kinsect
I play about 7-8 of the weapons and I pick my weapon based on what I think is easiest/fastest to take down my mark. Gotta say though the safest strat will always be Hit and Run Greatsword. Gets even better when you get that sweet frostcraft. I beat Alatreon with the Giant Frozen Tuna GS.
I cheat by farming fatalis part and made his armor without even finishing fatalis. The first fight had extra cart allowed so I always leave when I host it after I get the eye so I can farm that quest.
It is really a nice armor with all the huge number of slot given.
Honestly this game is sooo damm good in my opinion one of the best games ever
The first journal after he fires up GI for the first time is going to be very interesting since his first game was Workd.
Divine blessing is nice and all... but don't even bother going to AT Velkhana without max ice resistance and the cloak too
I used Ruiner Nergigante to beat AT Velkhana the first time, and that was enough even without Fatalis gear or health augment. It was a big help for me after bashing my head against the AT wall for a while
I just Once again Battle and Defeat Fatalis in Iceborne Solo again ( 2 Time i did this) gotta say sure I carted once But I was Able to Beat it Pretty well with the set up i was using also got my Max Fire Resist Deco that was really nice to get at least.
I love this series. I hope you continue playing world/iceborne after you beat fatalis!
I once accidentally went into an endgame hunt with only three pieces of armor. Things went fine.
Play the way you want.
I'm such a slut for max evasion and a little bit of evade extender. Those two give me so much comfort. Not hating on divine blessing, i use it sometimes but its largely rng based unlike the consistency of evasion.
sick build bro
Back then hunters came into AT velkhana with their shiny Fatalis gears thinking they were hot shit only to get clapped spectacularly