My Dad managed FEAR. When I was a kid, my dad introduced me to Lee Ving & Spit Stix. I was like "hi" in my plaid school girl uniform. Fucking awesome!! Mind you, I was too young to know how cool they were (I was little), but it's pretty badass to say your dad managed FEAR! I just turned 49 yesterday. I became a fan of punk and death rock and am still a fan. My dad is 80 today and in the ICU, please EVERYONE send him positive vibes. He's the best Dad ever.
First saw them in 1979 at the Hong Kong Cafe in L.A’.s Chinatown, where they used to play regularly. It was a Chinese restaurant downstairs that featured local as well as out of town punk bands performing upstairs. I got a job as a bouncer there just so that I could see all the bands and enjoy the local punk scene. At that time the line up included Derf, Philo and Spit Stix, and was the same one featured here in this video. It was not unusual to see them performing on the same bill with X, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, the Germs, even the Go-Gos. Eventually the audiences became to violent and destructive, and many of the bands were banned from playing at the clubs. But while it lasted it was great; you could see 3 bands for 3 dollars and have a blast-I am 60 years old now, but I still love this stuff!
Ashley Pomeroy Ashley, I consciously am not aware of any hearing problems, certainly no tinnitus, as result of my days working in the music clubs over 30 years ago. (I worked for 2 years at the Whiskey A-Go Go after my stint at the Hong Kong cafe ended) I have never had my hearing tested by an audiologist as an adult, so it is quite possible that I have lost sensitivity in the low and high frequencies. However, given my age, 60, I would be starting to lose hearing at those frequencies anyhow due to the natural aging process, so it would be difficult to determine if any loss was accelerated by repeated exposure to loud music. I would definitely recommend to young people today to carry foam earplugs with them at all times when they attend music events, and to deploy them if they feel the decibel level is uncomfortably loud. From what I have heard, (no pun intended) tinnitus is a miserable condition to experience.
droor24 I was 24 in May 1979 when I graduated from art school 30 miles north of Los Angeles. I moved to Hollywood in August of that year and immediately got plugged into the local L.A. punk scene which was exploding with energy and excitement. The Hong Kong cafe opened in June 1979-it closed in January of 1981. A documentary film was recently made about the club, but I only found out after the project was completed. Too bad because they were asking for stories, photos etc, to serve as source material for the documentary, and as someone that worked there, I could have contributed to the effort. Oh well, I still cherish those memories. Fear is still together and performing, with frontman Lee Ving as the only original member-I think that he must be 65 by now. Kinda makes me look like a youngster by comparison.
I'm really glad you shared that story with me. It must have been alot of fun living in L.A at that time. Hardcore is a fun sound. I remember when I lived in Cairo, Egypt, about 13 years old, and no access to new music, so I resorted to what I could get my hands on which was tapes from my neighbour. He had casettes of Fear, Circle Jerks, Misfits, Bad Brains, TSOL. It was what I grew up on, even as a kid in the late 90's. If I was in USA, I would have listened to radio garbage, but I got lucky and learned about hardcore.
Lee Ving pure don't give a shittery about squat. It made them pure. The Record is a staple in a true punks vinyl collection. If you dont own this record. You're not worthy!
Lee Ving is punk rock legend in my mind. FEAR was so great & entertaining. I've never seen anyone who can rile up a crowd better than FEAR other than maybe Iggy Pop
Right he got them to play on SNL and it was the shortest band played in their history as well. The cast were deadheads too and the Grateful Dead played one more Saturday Night bring the longest band on snl history. Thank you Fear more beer!
Word, dude. Fear's live songs in The Decline Of Western Civilization are even better than the studio versions. Fear and The Germs segments are priceless. Lee Ving's baiting of the audience is so witty and funny and then, just as you're laughing, BOOM, Fear launches into absolute killer punk and all you can do is sit there and say WOW!!! At least, that was my reaction the first time I saw this wonderful film.
Thanks man...this vid was a def a labor of love..43yrs myself and playing punk in Worm Suicide for almost 20 years..this is what we grew up on ....yea this is when it mattered..when it was real.
Fear "The Record" is still one of the GREATEST albums of all time! A fave of mine for over 20 years! Always made me feel good when i'd be down! STILL KICKS MY ASS!!!! :)
I was made aware of Lee Ving's existence when I watched Clue a few years back, but I only recently discovered his band. Literally so glad I did BC their songs go so hard 🤟
Saw FEAR in Philly as an impressionable teenager and the rest they say is history! Some of my favorite memories of Fear playing on a cassette tape in my mom's Buick as with the windows down skating irrigation ditches in Delaware.
They were a right wing punk band from what I remember back in the day and still hated by some to this day. Lee used to wear a confederate flag on his jacket or something like that.
@alfredocarpaneto5976 Only Lee was somewhat right wing. Who cares anyway? There’s been far too many left wing bands in punk. Left wing is the safest thing to be nowadays.
Original punk was great because it was really diverse. True diversity, not shallow lip service. I had never really thought about that until I was talking to a first generation punk band friend and he said that. It's true. It's something people in the scene simply took for granted and didn't think about. You could go to parties and meet guys like fear and someone from the weathermen underground. At the same place. Straight gay radical communists future right extremists black yellow white brown. Nobody cared. Then the skinheads came along and it was over within a year.
It wasn't really meant to be a violent song. If you read the lyrics, he's talking about how society doesn't give a fuck about people, especially those in legitimate need. The "I" in this song is really society saying "I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU--FUCK YOU!" A lot of things have changed since 1982, but generally, Lee was right to call it out when he did.
These guys gave me so much joy when I was young, and they still do. They flat our rock, and are hilarious to boot! That's what made early 80's punk fun - it was raw, brutal, full of energy, but pretty damn funny too if you listen to the lyrics. Awesome American punk band - FEAR!
Saw FEAR twice. Once in LA and once in Boston at Spit. Great energy and the best punk band ever. Lyrics are hysterical. InsectAffect covered this song with a harpsichord and recorders in medieval style, with the lyrics modified to "Thine existence concernth me not. Fornicate thee!" Brilliant! Also love LET'S HAVE A WAR and GIMMIE SOME ACTION and NEW YORK'S ALRIGHT.
ALWAYS love this song,its a great way to express your feelings to that "certain " someone....i saw them play 2x,s -great shows!....good times....good times ...!
Without Spit on the drums, FEAR's sound is completely compromised. Quite possibly the best punk rock drummer Listen to the drums in this song, absolutely amazing.
I love how Lee Ving adds the extra, " OH NO !!!!!!!!' at the end of, the phrase, "I don';t care about you". Its like.. Okay Lee I get it ... you don't care but its that extra, "Oh No" that really sells that message !!!! I LOVE FEAR !!!!!!
The moment these guys played this song--BOOM! In an instant, it made up for all the crappy lounge bands, rock bands, whatever bands that sucked up to audiences with their obsequious pop songs. Thanks, FEAR! and R.I.P. Derf!
Unlike many in this space, I didn’t grow up listening to Fear. I hadn’t even heard the song “I Don’t Care About You” until 2020, when Lee Ving and the guys recorded a pandemic version. Now I can’t stop listening to the song.
True--for sheer ferocity, nothing equals FEAR live at this moment and many others with this line-up. Well said, what you said and I agree--you got me there with your reasoning and logic. But what is not here is the over-dubs of Philo doing his whammy-bar work--it's buried slightly but arranged properly in the studio mix. It's just most folks don't notice that--I do. But even any blast of FEAR, from the studio or better yet live, anything for me anytime any night or day of the week, fer sure!
Fear shreds lol. Amazing to see which bands stand the test of time. This sounds as good today as when it was first released. Might have something to do with trash like autotune and rhythm keepers not existing. The bands played for real.
have a beer with fear, just witnessed them at ink-n-iron, perfect, did a few lighting gigs with them back in the good ol daze, mayhem at it's finest...
Was asked "What would your theme song be when you walked into a room?" No hesitation - direct link to this. p.s. I was there in the 1980s L.A. scene. Got chased by cops at a Circle Jerks gig. Picture in L.A. Times up front at Black Flag. Exene handed me her tall can of Bud from the stage at the X show. Best times of my life.
I don't think it necessarily sums up punk, but it does sum up the attitudes of the late 70s to mid 80s in the US especially. There was easily a decade there where the Dow Jones floated on the price of coke.
best memory of a fear show was at the polish hall in watts . with 45 grave and the mentors, and some other band we missed, fear was headlining and was on for maybe 2 songs, lee ving started with the jokes "punk rocker went up to the pope and said "hey pope pope , lemme tell ya a polack joke!" the pope said" but im polish" punk rocker said " thats ok ill tell ya slow", played a lil more and stoped , looked around,( now keep in mind this is in WATTS, and all security were black, and letting locals in fo free to see the punk rockers) so he looked around and said " WHO LET ALL YOU N#@$@ERS IN HERE?!?" man o man that wass all it took riot in that place , fun times.....
My Dad managed FEAR. When I was a kid, my dad introduced me to Lee Ving & Spit Stix. I was like "hi" in my plaid school girl uniform. Fucking awesome!! Mind you, I was too young to know how cool they were (I was little), but it's pretty badass to say your dad managed FEAR! I just turned 49 yesterday. I became a fan of punk and death rock and am still a fan. My dad is 80 today and in the ICU, please EVERYONE send him positive vibes. He's the best Dad ever.
Tell him I said “thank you for your service”.
He sounds awesome, I wish him many more happy years
A month later I hope and wish he's at home telling cool stories, thank you sir for being awesome!
Did he make it?
I hope your father turned out ok, much love
First saw them in 1979 at the Hong Kong Cafe in L.A’.s Chinatown, where they used to play regularly. It was a Chinese restaurant downstairs that featured local as well as out of town punk bands performing upstairs. I got a job as a bouncer there just so that I could see all the bands and enjoy the local punk scene. At that time the line up included Derf, Philo and Spit Stix, and was the same one featured here in this video. It was not unusual to see them performing on the same bill with X, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, the Germs, even the Go-Gos. Eventually the audiences became to violent and destructive, and many of the bands were banned from playing at the clubs. But while it lasted it was great; you could see 3 bands for 3 dollars and have a blast-I am 60 years old now, but I still love this stuff!
Mishigoss55 Obvious question - do you have tinnitus?
Ashley Pomeroy Ashley, I consciously am not aware of any hearing problems, certainly no tinnitus, as result of my days working in the music clubs over 30 years ago. (I worked for 2 years at the Whiskey A-Go Go after my stint at the Hong Kong cafe ended) I have never had my hearing tested by an audiologist as an adult, so it is quite possible that I have lost sensitivity in the low and high frequencies. However, given my age, 60, I would be starting to lose hearing at those frequencies anyhow due to the natural aging process, so it would be difficult to determine if any loss was accelerated by repeated exposure to loud music. I would definitely recommend to young people today to carry foam earplugs with them at all times when they attend music events, and to deploy them if they feel the decibel level is uncomfortably loud. From what I have heard, (no pun intended) tinnitus is a miserable condition to experience.
Mishigoss55 Love that your 60 and still jamming this. 1979 would have made you 25?
droor24 I was 24 in May 1979 when I graduated from art school 30 miles north of Los Angeles. I moved to Hollywood in August of that year and immediately got plugged into the local L.A. punk scene which was exploding with energy and excitement. The Hong Kong cafe opened in June 1979-it closed in January of 1981. A documentary film was recently made about the club, but I only found out after the project was completed. Too bad because they were asking for stories, photos etc, to serve as source material for the documentary, and as someone that worked there, I could have contributed to the effort. Oh well, I still cherish those memories. Fear is still together and performing, with frontman Lee Ving as the only original member-I think that he must be 65 by now. Kinda makes me look like a youngster by comparison.
I'm really glad you shared that story with me. It must have been alot of fun living in L.A at that time. Hardcore is a fun sound. I remember when I lived in Cairo, Egypt, about 13 years old, and no access to new music, so I resorted to what I could get my hands on which was tapes from my neighbour. He had casettes of Fear, Circle Jerks, Misfits, Bad Brains, TSOL. It was what I grew up on, even as a kid in the late 90's. If I was in USA, I would have listened to radio garbage, but I got lucky and learned about hardcore.
One of the Greatest American Punk Bands. FEAR
AGREED.
The best
Top 10 totally for sure!
THE greatest American punk band
Simple and rude statement...love it.
Lee Ving pure don't give a shittery about squat. It made them pure. The Record is a staple in a true punks vinyl collection. If you dont own this record. You're not worthy!
I care about you. C FOKKEN F FOKKEN H!
I keep coming back to these old clips man. This shit is like a fucking drug it makes me so satisfied. They did it hard and they did it well.
Well said
“We”
Hell yeah they did
One of the greatest singers in Rock. Period.
No doubt
@@skinheadyouth66 they suck
He could also sing beautifully operatic stuff, not my thing but he's talented as hell
Agree d
Not really? Question Mark
Lee Ving is punk rock legend in my mind. FEAR was so great & entertaining. I've never seen anyone who can rile up a crowd better than FEAR other than maybe Iggy Pop
Bad Brains
Lee Ving in Streets of Fire & Flashdance, very talented. F you!
D.R.I. I just saw them last Friday
John Belushi's favorite punk band.
Right he got them to play on SNL and it was the shortest band played in their history as well. The cast were deadheads too and the Grateful Dead played one more Saturday Night bring the longest band on snl history. Thank you Fear more beer!
...so he became their manager!
Only today realised Lee Ving played Mr Body in Clue. 🕵️
Word, dude. Fear's live songs in The Decline Of Western Civilization are even better than the studio versions. Fear and The Germs segments are priceless. Lee Ving's baiting of the audience is so witty and funny and then, just as you're laughing, BOOM, Fear launches into absolute killer punk and all you can do is sit there and say WOW!!! At least, that was my reaction the first time I saw this wonderful film.
Department of Veterans affairs Theme song
low blow man
My dad is a veteran and worked in the VA system and he can vouch that they care about cutting costs and not really about you.
Yes "not care about you" a Veteran
fuck veterans.
But sadly correct and it's getting even worse under Drumpf.
that was amazing. Nice work. I haven't seen that footage since I first witnessed it back in the'80s. I'm 51 now, and still seeking more!
Thanks man...this vid was a def a labor of love..43yrs myself and playing punk in Worm Suicide for almost 20 years..this is what we grew up on ....yea this is when it mattered..when it was real.
chorus
I turn 54 today and I still get a rush from this song. Pure energy, quick and to the point. Love it!
search maggot sandwich, and the love song entitled Maggie. I know you'd dig it the most.
What I always loved about FEAR was that no song was ever longer than it needed to be. Most if not all were to the point and over. And awesome.
Fear "The Record" is still one of the GREATEST albums of all time! A fave of mine for over 20 years! Always made me feel good when i'd be down! STILL KICKS MY ASS!!!! :)
I was made aware of Lee Ving's existence when I watched Clue a few years back, but I only recently discovered his band. Literally so glad I did BC their songs go so hard 🤟
Saw FEAR in Philly as an impressionable teenager and the rest they say is history! Some of my favorite memories of Fear playing on a cassette tape in my mom's Buick as with the windows down skating irrigation ditches in Delaware.
lee ving 62, and still kicking ass today. and why 44 dislikes? Fear is one of the best punk bands ever!
They were a right wing punk band from what I remember back in the day and still hated by some to this day. Lee used to wear a confederate flag on his jacket or something like that.
The dislikes are from mumblerap listening boogereaters
@alfredocarpaneto5976 Only Lee was somewhat right wing. Who cares anyway? There’s been far too many left wing bands in punk. Left wing is the safest thing to be nowadays.
Original punk was great because it was really diverse. True diversity, not shallow lip service. I had never really thought about that until I was talking to a first generation punk band friend and he said that. It's true. It's something people in the scene simply took for granted and didn't think about.
You could go to parties and meet guys like fear and someone from the weathermen underground. At the same place. Straight gay radical communists future right extremists black yellow white brown. Nobody cared. Then the skinheads came along and it was over within a year.
REAL and FUN MUSIC. Sorry I missed this show!!
Fear still holds up 35 years later ... nice job on audio.
the drumming is so amazing on this song!
Great Band , saw them in a now defunct bar ( The Garage ) in Raleigh NC years ago. Got to talk with Lee for a bit outside on the sidewalk.
One of best live violent songs ever to be recorded. Great job, and thanks for posting this rampaging thrill.
It wasn't really meant to be a violent song. If you read the lyrics, he's talking about how society doesn't give a fuck about people, especially those in legitimate need. The "I" in this song is really society saying "I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU--FUCK YOU!" A lot of things have changed since 1982, but generally, Lee was right to call it out when he did.
That yell at the end would make for a kick ass intro to an album.
i once got heckled by Lee Ving at a coffee shop in the early 90's , for the Dallas Punk scene being so weak. Was Awesome!
I must have watched this video a hundred times.
These guys gave me so much joy when I was young, and they still do. They flat our rock, and are hilarious to boot! That's what made early 80's punk fun - it was raw, brutal, full of energy, but pretty damn funny too if you listen to the lyrics. Awesome American punk band - FEAR!
you know what i've loved about punk ? the fact you can have 1 SMOKE through 3 songs . FUCK YEAH !
From Kensington Philadelphia ...
Philly Pride!
Saw FEAR twice. Once in LA and once in Boston at Spit. Great energy and the best punk band ever. Lyrics are hysterical. InsectAffect covered this song with a harpsichord and recorders in medieval style, with the lyrics modified to "Thine existence concernth me not. Fornicate thee!" Brilliant!
Also love LET'S HAVE A WAR and GIMMIE SOME ACTION and NEW YORK'S ALRIGHT.
ALWAYS love this song,its a great way to express your feelings to that "certain " someone....i saw them play 2x,s -great shows!....good times....good times ...!
These guys were amazing live when i saw them 6 years ago. Warped tour in Southern California
Fantastic. Nothing better
Saw them in Boston show...Awesome energy!....They were the soundtrack of my military days!
Without Spit on the drums, FEAR's sound is completely compromised. Quite possibly the best punk rock drummer Listen to the drums in this song, absolutely amazing.
Darrin Connor Agreed!!!
@@homefront3162 01:09 - Spit is practically hitting himself in the head with his sticks.
Yes
Well, you obviously haven't heard The Damneds's New Rose.
Spit plays for NASALROD now. Great band.
Still the greatest single song for the under valued and under represented youth of the world.
oh piss off you twat
My favorite band
I love how Lee Ving adds the extra, " OH NO !!!!!!!!' at the end of, the phrase, "I don';t care about you". Its like.. Okay Lee I get it ... you don't care but its that extra, "Oh No" that really sells that message !!!! I LOVE FEAR !!!!!!
Decline was such an awesome sound-track! Movie was already, but man that sound track!
The Song that launched my Punk lifestyle through to today.
The moment these guys played this song--BOOM! In an instant, it made up for all the crappy lounge bands, rock bands, whatever bands that sucked up to audiences with their obsequious pop songs. Thanks, FEAR! and R.I.P. Derf!
The good ol'80spunk!! Love fear...
*This song was in my head many times, as I paddled out into crowded surf.*
The sticker was on the nose/deck of my board.
It made the crowd invisible!
Awesome song, has aged well, had many fun times in the mosh pit at Fear shows in Minneapolis back in the day
Unlike many in this space, I didn’t grow up listening to Fear. I hadn’t even heard the song “I Don’t Care About You” until 2020, when Lee Ving and the guys recorded a pandemic version. Now I can’t stop listening to the song.
I met Lee at Emo's in Austin, TX. He is a fun lovin cowboy. :-)
I was in LA a few months ago on vacation and I walked down Wilcox to see what they're talking about in this song.
Thank you Mr. Flores. Cheers!
I love the joint in the bass at the end. hahaha
I grew up with the best kinda music.. That's fact.
Decline needs to be released on DVD now
Better than the studio version
Max Seuberlich GNR
I normally didn't like GNR but I did think they did a good cover of this song.
Fear recorded live kicks so much ass
This whole soundtrack's better than most of the studio versions of these songs, especially the X and Circle Jerks tracks.
And FEAR, of course.
Fantastic job with the editing. Even though this is 12 years old, I appreciate it.👍🏼
12 years old? Decades old.
an absolute must in every collection
True--for sheer ferocity, nothing equals FEAR live at this moment and many others with this line-up. Well said, what you said and I agree--you got me there with your reasoning and logic. But what is not here is the over-dubs of Philo doing his whammy-bar work--it's buried slightly but arranged properly in the studio mix. It's just most folks don't notice that--I do. But even any blast of FEAR, from the studio or better yet live, anything for me anytime any night or day of the week, fer sure!
favorite punk band ever
i still love this song thanks
Need to see it live!
Nice! I wish I could meet him!
I DID
love this in the 1983 movie Nightmares, with Emilio Estevez , has Let's Have a War in it also!!!
i freaking LOVE fear such a great band!
Always a fav! Kept in my playlist!
I've met Lee a few times & he's actually really a nice guy.
I've also been in many FEAR pits & they are scary yet fun :)
I'll give you a dollar if you'll be my friend
Thanks....Awesome Sound and Vid. Love This Band!!!
I just found out yesterday that Mr. Boddy is a musician. This song is fitting. 😂
Hey! It's the guy from the movie "Clue"!
I looove that Philly is in the 1st verse
Fear shreds lol. Amazing to see which bands stand the test of time. This sounds as good today as when it was first released. Might have something to do with trash like autotune and rhythm keepers not existing. The bands played for real.
Flores: You did an amazing job on this.
have a beer with fear, just witnessed them at ink-n-iron, perfect, did a few lighting gigs with them back in the good ol daze, mayhem at it's finest...
Everywhere is this song now.
Decline of Western Civilization, indeed.
fantastic version well done Pablo
Great Job Pablo !!
Man this brings back memories!
just awesome!
Darby in the house. Crushing on Spit Stix
I love this band. But I wish they would really say what they really think in this song. Just put it out there.. I haven’t forgotten
lol
you are the best man!!!!
yeah the LAPD police station was refereed to as the Wilcox hotel as it's on Wilcox, hope you had a great vacation.
well put together man, good work
Lee Ving for Vice President!
Thanks
He'd arson the white house & use the opportunity to enthusiastically tell everyone who thinks he should b prez to go f#ck themselves
I remember seeing this when I was like 15 and being totally blown away... hahaha
Was asked "What would your theme song be when you walked into a room?" No hesitation - direct link to this. p.s. I was there in the 1980s L.A. scene. Got chased by cops at a Circle Jerks gig. Picture in L.A. Times up front at Black Flag. Exene handed me her tall can of Bud from the stage at the X show. Best times of my life.
This and the germs were my favorite American punk acts
Excellent
killa!
Is it me or when Lee Ving says “I don’t care about you, f*** you!” it almost feels like an honor?
Oh man, what hapenned with my punk rock ?!
Hail fear !!!!
I listen to this, zone out, and just watch that voice come strait out of his face...
This is the perfect song to listen to when your frustrated.
My fav Fear song.
great music Geoff luv this :)
one of the most important 1 min 40 secs in punk history-in my humble opinion
Sick! nice work man
I don't think it necessarily sums up punk, but it does sum up the attitudes of the late 70s to mid 80s in the US especially. There was easily a decade there where the Dow Jones floated on the price of coke.
best memory of a fear show was at the polish hall in watts . with 45 grave and the mentors, and some other band we missed, fear was headlining and was on for maybe 2 songs, lee ving started with the jokes "punk rocker went up to the pope and said "hey pope pope , lemme tell ya a polack joke!" the pope said" but im polish" punk rocker said " thats ok ill tell ya slow", played a lil more and stoped , looked around,( now keep in mind this is in WATTS, and all security were black, and letting locals in fo free to see the punk rockers) so he looked around and said " WHO LET ALL YOU N#@$@ERS IN HERE?!?" man o man that wass all it took riot in that place , fun times.....
Holy shit that is absolutely incredible... **goggle eyes**
So accurate for LA at that time. Nothing was boring and everything was dangerous.
Saw FEAR are Punk Rock Picnic! Forget Jello, FEAR was awesome
01:32 - That noise Lee makes is hilarious.
I fuckin love this band.
No black metal weenie band was ever half as scary as Fear.
Cool Hit!
best Fear tune!!
1:08 Spit Stix is intense af