Top 10 Massive Plot Holes in Doctor Who
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- Top 10 Massive Plot Holes in Doctor Who
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The Doctor does deal in timey wimey weirdness, but we’ll need more than just a sonic screwdriver to fix these seismic errors. For this list, we're taking to the TARDIS to explore some of the biggest plot holes in "Doctor Who", that even the ever-reliable fall back of 'time travel' can't explain. It's just wibbly-wobbly wrong.
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#10. The MetaCrisis Doctor
#9. Silence in Church
#8. Orson Pink
#7. The Wall
#6. The Statue of Liberty
#5. Oswin’s Voice
#4. The Doctor’s Age
#3, #2, #1: ??? - Розваги
Did we miss any big ones?
WatchMojoUK the 10th Doctor's hand gets cut off and the Doctor regenerates into himself why don't all the new Doctors cut off their hand just after regenerating to regenerate into the same Doctor?
How did Amy exist if her parents were ereased from history by the cracks in the wall
Life Upgrade But how did Orson get his hands on the solder toy?
Life Upgrade why are all those episodes not canon and why all the caps?
The thing with the diamond wall- each time he respawns he is quicker, making him have more time to break the wall. Eventually, he can have enough time to break the diamond wall in one go without the creature burning him.
The Statue of Liberty being a weeping angel is a massive plot hole because technically every picture of the statue is technically another weeping angle
Oh shit. That’s right taking the form and or something like that makes an angel.
yeah but that whole timeline never happened
Actually because all of the images are the same angel and it’s such a popular landmark, none of them should be able to move. I’d say that the bigger plot hole is how the statue was able to attack.
It’s not just that. Every weeping angel is made of stone.
The Statue of Liberty 🗽 is made of copper and she has only turned green due to acid rain and corrosion (personally I think she actually looks better in green)
It also doesn’t really make sense why lady liberty moves out of her podium without anyone noticing at all. The distance she would have had to travel you definitely would have noticed her moving in the city that never sleeps.
10) Not a plot hole. The Metacrisis Doctor had a LOT of Donna Noble's personality quirks and traits as well as The Doctor's. Try again +WatchMojoUK
9) Nope 0/2 so far. It is "You *SHOULD* kill us all on sight." A) Clara has no weapons or means to kill it, and 2) MANY other people don't attempt to kill them on sight either. It is a suggestion, not a command. Ie people would be more disposed to kill it on sight. For instance if a cop or army officer saw one, then yeah they would VERY likely attack and attempt to kill one, but a 5'0" unarmed school teacher who is travelling with a timelord, is in a space church on Christmas while the doctor meets with a lady spacepope, attempting to negotiate their way onto a planet? (Not to mention Clara was naked at the time) She would be more curious, and attempt to find out all she can about the creature rather than kill it. Try again +WatchMojoUK
8) Nothing says Orson is directly related to Danny. He just says the toy soldier si a "family heirloom" and that "time Travel runs in the family". You honestly think when Danny pink died the government didn't go out of it's way to find a relative? (Sure I will give you the resemblence makes it more LIKELY that they are CLOSELY related, but by no means is this a given.) Also the fact that Danny was raised in an orphanage does not mean he has NO family just that he has no family willing or able to raise him. He could easily have a cousin in another orphanage or with family in say America or Canada, who simply couldn't be contacted when his parents died. Try again +WatchMojoUK
7) I am beginning to think you don't even watch the show at this point, not EVERYTHING in the castle resets. Only the rooms reset their order. The whole castle is a giant clockwork puzzlebox. that resets itself to position 1 when the Doctor dies and re-enters it. None of the furniture or the shovel or even the Doctor's clothes reset. JUST THE WALLS. Try again +WatchMojoUK
6) I will give you it would be hard for the statue to get to places without being seen by anyone ALTHOUGH if you remember Angels move faster than most people CAN see. Moreover the Doctor himself mentions that the angels can "infect" ANY statue, not just ones made of stone. As for Amy and Rory looking away it's called peripheral vision, ya numpty. Somewhat shakey i will grant you but definitely does not rise to the level of a plot hole. Try again +WatchMojoUK\
5) Another one easily answered if you actually (Oh I don't know) WATCH THE EPISODE. Until it is revealed Dalek-Oswin never talks directly with The Doctor, or anyone else. Only over the radio. Daleks don't exactly have antennae. they use implanred probes in their brains to communicate through their machine case, it is not impossible or even a stretch to believe a dalek could immitate a human voice over the radio if it so desired. Normally they simply do NOT desire to do so, as they consider anything not Dalek to be an enemy needing to be exterminated. But Oswin, doesn't realize she is a Dalek yet. It makes perfect sense that she would subconsciously transmit her human voice over the radio instead of a Dalek one. Try again +WatchMojoUK
4) A few different explantions pop to mind immediately for this one. Rule 1, the Doctor LIES. About his age especially. Moreover he tends to forget things. It is well established in Who lore that MOST timelords dump all frivilous memories (ie everything except the barebones) of pervious regenerations into the matrix after each regeneration. This is done in order to make room for new ones. Now The Doctor either hasn't had the opportunity or chose not to do this, every single time he regenerated. So his mind is VERY cluttered. He has a LOT of trouble remembering things from earlier regenerations at tthis point. Try again +WatchMojoUK
3) As the Dotor himself says in "Father's Day". Ordinarily The Timelord's would take care of them, since The Doctor changed his own history and never destroyed Galifrey only froze it in a parallel universe, The Timelords were never really gone, and could easily have taken care of any reapers who popped up. Moreover, The Reapers don't appear when ANY paradox is created, only when a fixed point is changed, and by my count that has not happened or been allowed to happen except TWICE (and those quickly fixed themselves) first in "The Waters of Mars", and Second in "The Wedding of River Song." As I say both were self correcting, but in "Father's Day" it likely would not have self corrected, if the reapers didn't appear, hence they do. Try again +WatchMojoUK
2) Okay now I KNOW you do not watch the show. The gravestone being observed by Rory and later Amy created a FIXED point in time. One the Doctor could not alter without the Timelords (or as you so rightly pointed out in entry number 3, The Reapers) interfereing and fixing it. He could not go and pick Amy and Rory up or even visitthem without risking altering that fixed point. ie The Doctor goes to visit Amy and while walking down the street with him a bus hops the curve and kills her. A fixed point is changed. Moreover The Doctor cannot visit Amy or Rory without knowing when they die, and as River says, repeatedly, "He doesn't like endings."
1) Perhaps, if you subscribe to the entirety of the multiverse theory that every single eventuality is played out somewhere along some timeline, then yes, this reality bomb DID go off somewhere. However, Who is to say that both The Doctor AND Davros didn't simply get their sums wrong? Perhaps a reality bomb DOES have a limit, and can only destroy so many realities before it burns out of power? All things have their limits, even if theoretically they do not. That being said I will give you this one +WatchMojoUK . It is the closest you have come to finding an actual plot hole. *claps hands* . Welldone.
5) what? in what point in the ACTUAL episode was it said that was the case? (and you have to use the ACTUAL episode and no assumptions!)
+kelan brown Okay there are a COUPLE of statements I made regarding number 5 so I am not sure which you mean, so I will address a couple and if you need further information please let me know more specifically what it is you feel I missed. (Hey I am human I am capable of mistakes).
"Only speaks to OSwwin over the radio" Watch the actual episode. Until The Doctor enters the room with Oswin in it, He never actually speaks to her, except over the Radio.
Watch "The Witch's Familiar" I believe it's called if you want to see proof of the implanted probes in Dalek brains. Missy clearly puts Clara in a dalek shell and attaches the probes to her skull there. Whenever she tries to talk it comes out of the Dalek as a word a Dalek would understand. For instance Clara masquerading as a Dalek could not say "love" or "I am Clara". It came out as "exterminate" and "I am a Dalek".
Back to the episode referenced in entry number 5 on this list, Oswin makes the Comment that she "looked The Doctor up in the Dalek Database" This is part of the Dalek hive mind, even The Doctor cannot hack it because of this. Thus Oswin-Dalek has ACCESS to all of a Dalek's functions, including mimickry (which we see earlier with the drone who finds Amy on the surface, and in the spy units sent to collect Amy Rory and The Doctor.) BUT has CLEARLY not allowed the daleks into HER mind yet (which is why full ocnversion never took place and she was chained up in the facility as "mad" in the first place.) So when Oswin-Dalek communicates through the RADIO it makes sense she would use her OWN voice, BUT for the Dalek voice to come out when talking to The Doctor IN THE SAME ROOM (ie using the actual vocal processor of the dalek shell).
I hope this sufficiently answered your questions. If there is anything you feel I am wrong about or have missed please feel free to respond. I am ALWAYS happy to talk to another Whovian about the show. :)
Yep just seems like a waste of time clickbait video that happens to go over that 10 min mark so they can get some more ads in a make so more sweet ad revenue money
kopitarrules thanks for clearing them up some of them I didn't really get but there explanation even I didn't think was right and with question 3 you said waters on Mars 3 survived but 1 killed them self so surely there would have been the reapers as the other 2 shouldn't have survived either as it said no survivers I believe.
+kilobravo99 Maybe the other two weren't as important to the timeline as Brooks and (I don't mean this as callously as it's going to sound) "time" just didn't care whether they lived or died?
I don't think this channel really watches the show properly. About 97-98% of these "plotholes" are explainable in the show itself.
Ikr watchmojo and watchmojouk NEVER do proper research about pretty much ANYTHING
Also if you love the show, you won't care about any of the tiny 'plotholes' that aren't explained in the episodes.
That's so true
Of course they don't watch stuff. They're more interested in banging out a new video EVERYDAY in the hopes that people will watch, giving them a great view count, new subscribers and that sweet sweet UA-cam advertising revenue. Go get a real job!
Their goal's to be contentious, because they get more watches that way.
They did say that if the doctor ever visited new York it would rip it apart the moment he tried to land. Sorry Mojo not that much of a hole
More of snag then whole, then...
It’s not that if he went back it would rip apart. The 12th Doctor has an entire episode based in New York. When Amy and Rory made contact with the angel, it didn’t just send them back in time, but back to the paradox universe that they had just created
Why not tardis to new Jersey and get a cab?
Yeah, now the Doctor can never visit New York in that specific time period again... until a writer comes along who has forgotten all about that episode.
KasaiWolf07 i was just about to say that haha
Clara doesn't teach History. Clara teaches English.
There's still a good chance she's seen that video. But the plot hole to me was that there apparently haven't been any bodies. Someone must have killed one.
whos to say they don't forget they've seen the body once they have killed them. they might forget they saw the body therefore meaning it was killed on sight.
teaches english, lives history.
Freya 101 she should have taught history. She could live the events she taught
I wonder if she is also a motor bike instructor in her spare time? "now follow me guys" rides up the Shard! ;)
The reapers thing is not a plot hole, it is actually well explained in the episode. The point in time is weakened by the Doctor and Rose watching him die once, going back to the same point again and then saving him right in front of themselves. The fact they were there twice and saw two different versions of the same event and that the first pair then disappear and no longer exist meant that it was a paradox within a paradox, in that why would she come back and save him if she never knew he would die? And how could she be there twice and remember it two different ways? The reapers only appeared because of how fractured that moment was. No plot hole there.
Rose was 3 times there, n on top of that she saves her OWN FATHER while bein 3 times there, n the doctor 2 time too, so IT MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE,
why only in this episode the reapers appeared,, ^^
the metacrisis doctor would have the memories of the doctor during the christmas invasion and before then. the doctor during the christmas invasion was all 'no second chances' so this doctor is like that too. which is why he committed the genocide (even tho, technically they all survive anyway) and regressed back to how the ninth doctor was before he met rose, thus rose will make him better once more
pretty much nailed it on the head, or in this case the hand. you'd have to be smacked upside the head to not realise that XD
Meta Crisis has the same memories of 10 up to the point of the aborted regeneration, as he recounts memories of Donna being transported to the Tardis and her finding him again.
Andy Sunnucks, that's due to it being a two way crisis, could've easily gotten that memory from donna.
Kinda ruins the whole arc with Nine and Rose throughout Series 1.
un_known could work!
6:36 I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about his age...he hasn't been in the tardis since he was a baby.
Oh, and 7:07, he's talking about SINCE he stopped being the first doctor, who was 600 in that episode.
If you try to get your head around all of Doctor Who, you’ll go mad or your brain will explode. So, just sit back and enjoy and just think ‘oh, wibbly wobbly, timey wimey!’ and have a jelly baby.
Oswin was in a dalek shell. They didn't turn her into a brain with tentacles. Her voice would still be her voice. Except for when she's using the shell speakers, it's reasonable that you would hear her actual voice if she's talking through a radio.
Sorry, but the Doctor said it himself
"They've done a full conversion"
Ajax Jenkins yup but human can go in the shell (was in a episode S9 I think)
The 14thDoctor You see Clara inside the casing at the end of the episode. Daleks were originally designed to hold humanoids (Kaleds) anyway. Episodes like The Witches Familiar and the very first Dalek story from the 60s make it clear that the Dalek casing changes the persons voice into a Dalek sounding one. Her internal radio would not be affected by that.
Ajax Jenkins agreed
Personally i think the conversation was happening in the doctors mind. It doesn't make sense in the episode specifically but more in the one that explains why she is the impossible girl when she goes into the beam, she is in his life and to help him and sorta guide him, so it makes sense that she could be in his head. She picks that form remember, as she does in every incarnation.
To all of this i say "wibbly wobbly timey wimey".
Such a good line. In anything else, this would be a cheap throwaway explanation which would actually create more plot holes than it answers but in this case, that line actually solves every time travel story problem the show has created.
Sad. When a so called great writer uses "Timey wimey" to explain something.
You mongaloid.
@@MrPaulmorris7777 They didn't tho-
@@mv9370 It was a catchprase from the Moffat era.
I read Doctor Who on the title, I click on the video.
Its a shame its a WatchMojo one though right?
Isn't the explanation for entry number one obvious? Davros created the Reality Bomb because Davros was straight-up insane!
no. they're talking about how in another universe, the reality bomb worked.
kelan baron What does another universe have to do with it?
+Christopher Wintering
because that's the reasoning given! that while it didn't work in that universe, it worked in another one! not "why did Davros create the reality bomb"!
The reality bomb can't be made into actual reality, the problem is any universe in which it went off would destroy it's own walls preserving the event of the reality bomb going off, it would no longer be a local action separate from the infinite multiverse.
You open up the previously sealed rooms in which the events were set in motion to take place, in it's own intact non-interfered reality all efforts to stop the bomb were successfully quelled by the daleks, it had already worked, in fact there are incalculable realities in which it does, with every possible lifeform as the culprit, but it's like the "if there's 1 universe in which the multiverse didn't exist then the multiverse can't exist" paradox.
Every possible interaction of quarks, energy, and laws has, is, and will happen if left on it's own, except universes which corrupt the events transpiring and can no longer be considered a viable part of the infinite possible individual universes.
jetstream222 Simple explanation: The reality bomb did not work as Davros envisioned. Davros is not infallible, as he lost control of his own creations, the Daleks, which he was certain would obey only him. He may have claimed that his Reality Bomb could destroy the multiverse, but that doesn't mean he is right.
That's awkward, because these make sense if you really know the series.
Novák Martin No they don't.
Paul Charles Morris Than you suck at paying attention, because none of these are plotholes.
Giglefreakz Biggest plothole!!! How did the Doctor and Clara escape the Sand Planet at the start of The Caretaker?
Novák Martin exactlyyy
Yup
Not a word about that surviving angel in New York, what happened to it?
I wouldn't be surprised for Chibnall to link it back to "Blink."
More than likely the Doctor did something very, very bad to it like he did to the Family of Blood.
@@Darkhiway2 ... agreed, I always felt a little sorry for that angel.
0:02 I can't be the only one who heard "The Dog Turd"
I didn't hear it the first time, but I checked and it indeed sounds like *"The Dog Turd".*
My favorite is when their in the parrel world at Jackie Tylers birthday and they're running out of the house where people are being slaughtered by the cybermen with the doctor saying "there's nothing we can do" only to destroy the ones that surround them a few moments later".
Hahah I never thought about that.
Also when Pete Tyler fully takes a generic soldiers dimension jump off him in Doomsday. Effectively killing the soldier.
Barney Quinn Well that's not so much of a plot hole as it is a dick move.
He has only 1 shot with that thing, it needs to power up again first or something he says that in that episode, in the van when they drive away from there in second part beginning, he explains it to Rose Father from hat parallel world,, PAY friggin ATTENTION,
so he saved up that 1 shot if they come into a situation to help themselves out, he couldnt save all of the others, too much Cyberman, u saw it yourself ^^
Amy's ending always makes me cry, heck even the short scenes of it in this video made me cry
Waw, you're more emotional than I am. Finally watched something about Who which didn't make me cry.
Maya Alexandra Amy was one of my favorite companions, i think inside im still upset about it which is why i cry so easily at the scenes 😆
I hear you Christa. It got me too. I loved Smith's era with Amy and Rory and River. It was like Indiana Jones every episode. The ending breaks my heart.
Roland Baldwin yes thank you! Someone else gets it!
Watchmojo: Doctor Who makes no sense!
Me: So you watch the show?
Watchmojo: Plot holes!
Me: The show explains them.
10) the metacrisis doctor had the real tenth doctor's current memories, but not his personality- he hadn't actually lived through the events of series 2 (during which rose "fixed" him), he just had the memories of that time in his head, almost as though they were implanted in there without actually having experienced them. personality-wise, he was the same man he was during the christmas invasion
9) maybe the silence's effect wears off? after all, by the time clara saw the footage it would've likely been decades after it was first broadcast. maybe it somehow only affected the billions of people who saw the original broadcast in 1969, and that was enough to eradicate them from earth?
8) I think the most likely explanation is they found a descendant of danny and clara from an alternate timeline- at that point in the doctor and clara's timeline, maybe she WAS heading towards a life with danny. it's implied that missy was the one who killed danny, so maybe by the events of listen she hadn't made the decision to do so yet, and so the future hadn't altered to incorporate his death? time is always in flux
7) the castle didn't temporally reset- it didn't revert back to an earlier point in time before the doctor first arrived. after he dies each time, the rooms physically move around back to how they were upon his arrival, but the contents of the castle still age and move through time normally. therefore, the water was filled with the doctor's skulls, and the wall didn't magically restore itself. each time he made it there it was a little more eroded, as we see in the episode
6) the statue of liberty is a tricky one- I've never really understood or been able to explain how it moved, although I don't think "it's made of copper" is a reason against it being an angel (it's been revealed in doctor who that the daleks had a hand in building the empire state building, so why couldn't lady liberty actually not be copper? doctor who retcons stuff all the time, from it's own canon and from actual recorded history)
5) I think the doctor is concentrating more on surviving the asylum- who cares who it is helping them, as long as they are? besides, I think his initial, fairly low-key reaction to oswin being a dalek suggests that he'd suspected it for a while
4) you're really trying to make sense of his age? it's a running gag that he himself doesn't know how old he is (along with the writers)- they even address it in the day of the doctor
3) the lack of reapers has always been a bit weird, although you can understand why the writers haven't used them since, because having massive bat things appear every time a paradox occurs in doctor who would get a bit old after a while. my headcanon is some higher being has taken the role of the time lords since the war, and so can deal with these kind of occurrences themselves without the use of reapers. maybe this soon after the end of the war they were still getting to grips with the whole solving paradoxes in the space-time continuum business, and so needed to employ reapers to do it for them?
2) "one more paradox..." "would rip new york apart"
1) just because in doctor who the multiverse theory is true, and thus there are infinite universes, that doesn't mean there is a universe for every scenario, i.e. a universe where the daleks succeeded. this isn't exclusively a doctor who plothole, it's an argument relating to multiverse theory as a whole. bit of a shit number 1 pick
Thank you!
A few thoughts / additions:
9) Clara *was* very much horrified (and unarmed!), but then again she's been travelling with the Doctor and would know by heart not to attack every beasty on sight, ESPECIALLY when she's on some sort of diplomatic mission. The Silence leave their order in someone's mind as an idea the subject believes he had on his own. But they can't order anything that e.g. obviously would go against someone's nature. Otherwise they wouldn't have had to take their sweet time to guide humanity for all those centuries to the point they would get what they wanted.
7) The painting of Clara was also very much aged.
6) Maybe, this was just an angel who took on the liking of Ms Liberty to guard over this area and time-loop.... Or not a "real" angel (I mean... that size!?) but rather a possessed object (kinda like the video-one that barely could 'angel' but still came to 'life' and managed to imprint on Amy). It's not a plot-hole when an entire, eternal species isn't explained past its sterotypes... And regarding to another bit addressed in the video: the Weeping Angels can be fooled into believing they are observed / not observed.
5) Oswin was in denial and thought she was still human, so her projected voice over the intercom reflected that, because she had programmed it to sound like "her" (similar to how Missy later demonstrated with Clara the other way around, the Dalek casing being set to censor her to sound Dalek).
4) also, the Doctor lies. Also, he did not travel time and space from his birth on. Also, he may round up or down whenever it fits the dialogue or context.
3) The reapers were compared to "bacteria taking advantage of the wound". They are likely, but not a given. Also, maybe the swarm in "Fathers Day" was the last of them?
2) Yes. Since he had read Amy's last page, he could not return to them without causing another paradox. Funfact: The Doctor eventually went back to 1990's New York ("The Return Of Doctor Mysterio") to straighten out the time distortions.
1) An "internalised synchronous back-feed reversal loop" was used to stop the Reality Bomb. ...somehow the "reversal"-part of that term has me thinking, that at least part of the damage done across the universes has been, well, reversed. We'll never know. We only know of one lasting parallel universe in this show (?).
Give this person an OBE!
aren't we made of our memories?
I mean, yeah I guess, but if you suddenly woke up with memories in your head that you hadn't yourself experienced, would your personality immediately change based on those new, kind of artificial memories?
The Doctor was already fixed by the end of series 1. He experienced them.
I believe the explanation of the Doctor's age is that he started counting again from The War Doctor onwards. The Time War chronologically lasted somewhere near six hundred years, and then the Ninth Doctor wandered for a century before meeting Rose, then travelled off for another century after their second meeting, before leaving for a hundred years *again* when she turned down travelling in the TARDIS for the first time
"Timey wimey weirdness"?
IT'S WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY STUFF!!!!!
His doppelganger had all his memories prior to him regenerating and therefore prior to his personality change. He was still the dangerous person before rose changed him way after the Christmas episode
#8 If Danny died then Orson never exists paradox. Then it resolves because
Shut up
Whovians have a saying....
"Never try and apply logic to Doctor Who"
Reverse the neutron flow. That usually works.
How about Clara bloody Oswald
Do you know what a plot hole is?
oh look - somebody who doesn't understand what deus ex machina means.
Yep, you don't understand what deus ex machina means. Definition:
"an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel."
Look at the RTD finales for deus ex machinas: bad wolf, doctordonna etc.
Clara is not. It's not unexpected as it was foreshadowed in Asylum and the snowmen.
yeah... I study latin you point is invalid...
HAHAHAHA "It's not unexpected as it was foreshadowed in Asylum and the snowmen". And guess what else was foreshadowed during the whole season? Bad Wolf and DoctorDonna. If foreshadowing means it's not a deus ex machina (to you, not saying I accept your defnition), you're contradicting yourself.
Anything made in the image of an angel becomes one. The statue of liberty could have been a copy or based off of an angel. (because videos and pictures can be angels too).
Good point.
The episode explained it as the angels being so powerful because of how much energy they had consumed that they could take control over any statue they like
I really wish I could have seen what the Oswin Dalek looked like under its shell
My first crush EVER was David Tennant 😊😊☺☺
Minnie ImI Hands off, I saw him first
Gregarino Official 😂😂
ohhh fuck sorry
When I was younger like 6 or 7 I said I was going to marry him 😂
Same my dad still teases me about it.
For the silence on I just remembered that the original footage of the moon landing was lost many years ago maybe it only works if it's the original!
As far as the thing with Amy and the Angels, they explain that when the Angels send someone back, they're time-locked, so he can't go back in time for her.
This channel is just 70% Doctor who
The Funko Fanatic I am not going to visit you anymore. You are a very nasty person. I do not want anything to do with you.
I didn't say it was a bad thing
Sucks for me cause I hate Dr Who.
For me it's more like Dr Pooh.
What do you expect? Imagine if you had WatchMojo but then it was the British version of WatchMojo.
What else would it be about.
URRGGGHHH
Series 6 and Series 7 timeline though!!
I'm making complete timeline (I don't think it will be very complete...), and oh my... those 2 series is so hard to pinpoint the year!
I mean... The Power Of Three, one episode... that took a freaking whole year! XD (July-June/July)
So the question is... which year of June was it start....
Jan 2011 - The God Complex ending
April 2011 - Closing Time, The Impossible Astronaut, The Wedding of River Song
Christmas 2012 - The Doctor, the widow and the wardrobe ending
Spring 2013 - Series 7b
April - August 2013 - Pond Life
Aug 2013 - Asylum of the Daleks
Nov 2013 - The Day of the Doctor
Spring 2014 - Series 8
June 2014 - Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
July 2014 - July 2015 - The Power of Three
Autumn 2015 - Series 9
thejamsterx But in the christmas special The Doctor, the Widow, And The Wardrobe, he's been gone for 2 years, at the end of the episode
Yes, it's rounded up. The doctor hasn't visited Amy since early 2011. That's 1 year and 8 months. Additionally, it's been two Christmases including that one.
10=JOURNEY'S END ISN'T CANNON
9=THIS WAS A DIFFERENT SILENCE, GOOD VERSIONS AND AS THEY WERE AT THEIR HOME THEY COULD FIX/BYPASS THIS.
8=IT WAS NEVER VERIFIED THAT DANNY AND CLARA WERE GRANDPARENTS TO ORSON PINK, ORSON PINK WAS A DECENDANT TO DANNY'S BROTHER, POSSIBLY TWIN BROTHER.
7=THE WALL IS NOT PART OF THE CASTLE OR THE WORLD, IT IS NEXT TO IT.
6=THE ANGELS TAKE MANHATTAN IS NOT CANNON
5=ASYLUM OF THE DALEKS IS NOT CANNON
4=THERE IS A THEORY THAT WHEN HE BECAME THE WAR DOCTOR HE RECOUNTED, HE COULD ALSO BE TALKING IN DIFFERENT EARTH TERMS, OR YEARS THAT DON'T COUNT LIKE SIMILAR EVENTS TO HEAVEN SENT SUCH AS BEING F5ROZEN IN TIME FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS OR IN A TIMELOOP.
3=FATHERS DAY IS NOT CANNON
2=THE ANGELS TAKE MANHATTAN IS NOT CANNON.
1=JOURNEYS END IS NOT CANNON.
Wait, if the Power of three is after Day of the Doctor, explain Kate and the Doctor.
Here's a plot hole, all throughout the new who era the doctor says he's the last time lord (until he saves Gallifrey) but what about his granddaughter than he left on Earth, so there are technically two known time lords
a) she could easily have died by the time 9th starts saying that.
b) It's debated if she is actually his biological granddaughter, and thus if she is a Time Lady. She could just as easily be another humanoid race that the Doctor took pity on and brought under his wing.
Susan didn’t go to the Timelord academy so didn’t become a Timelady. Only Gallifreyians who went to the academy become Timelords and gain the ability to regenerate.
hazelanneuk - so how do you explain River's ability to regenerate? She's not Gallifreyan, and I'm pretty sure she never went to the academy.
Joe Grohl she was conceived in the time vortex and genetically manipulated by the silence into a time lady
Well even though all the time lords were banished all at once in one place he should still have been crossing paths with time lords doing their timey wimey stuff prior to the event !
1:45 But remember he was also part Donna
10 meta crysis doctor didn't travel with Martha who showed him restraint as rose second season but remembers all of donna as he received part of her memory.
The episode ‘Dalek’ is set in 2012 but yet nobody knows what it is but the Daleks attack in ‘Journeys End’ is in before 2012...
I think you should rewatch "The Big Bang". All alien invasions from the RTD era have been forgotten by everybody.
SAMTAYLORTV wait so captain jack forgot it??.
No, because he is a time traveler and was at the eye of the storm.
Four of these are from the RTD era
Six are from the Moffat era
At least WatchMojo are right about something
Not really as most of these aren't plot holes.
thejamsterx Are you enjoying going around making excuses for Moffat's incompetence?
Tom Lees not a surprise
Actually 4 are from the RTD era and 6 are from the Mof era.
1,3,4 and 10 are all in the RTD era
kilobravo99 Oops, my mistake
I know it's one line but "people assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect but actually from a non linear, non subjective viewpoint it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff" is a line which in my opinion is so good, it covers up all of the plot holes revolving around time travel.
The reapers are a big one I agree with. It seems like the writers have forgotten about them. Same way the Angels powers randomly seem to appear and disappear.
The silence... slenderman?
Ticci Toby wut
@@thekurg4810 wut
The Doctor's Age:
900 years of Time and Space, meaning he (9th Doctor) is older than 900 years but has only been traveling time and space for 900 years. This means it could be the same continuity as classic Who. The 1st Doctor left Gallifrey whilst young and spent 900 traveling, this would be end of Classic Who/start of revival. When 10 is in he's life he would be from the end of 900 to before 1000. Then 11 starts around the 990-1000 mark, by the time 11 has finished his life (spent 300 years on Trenzalore) and regenerates to 12 he's over 2000. Meaning the 13th Doctor is in her 2500+.
Don't forget that the time line of each doctor is different, regardless of how long or short they were the doctor for (our time). e.g The 4th Doctor was portrayed for 8 years and 11th for only 3, yet 11 has spent longer as the Doctor than 4 in terms of the timeline.
In the Voyage of the Damned, the doctor says he is 903, 904 in Day of the Doctor, 906 in The End of Time, 907 in Flesh and Stone.
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The show from 2005 onwards is a continuation of the same continuity! In many stories there's even flashes of the Doctor's previous incarnations, all from the classic era and the TV Movie (e.g The Next Doctor, The Eleventh Hour.)
Harrythehorror Classic Doctor Who and modern Doctor Who are obviously in the same continuity. The people behind the show have made that clear since it came back in 2005. Also, the 2nd Doctor said he was 450 with the 7th Doctor being around 900.
High Voltage Of course I know the revival is a continuation of Classic Who.
But after 54 years many aspects of the show are very confusing, Moffat describes the show as 'head-cannon' this is where is you can have what personally makes sense for you as cannon.
I was just making a rough point of the Doctor's age going from the most recent episodes as they would be the most credible.
i mean technically he's 4 million years old
In number seven, the wall, the wall doesn't reset and neither do any of the rooms. What resets is the doctor himself. Which is why the skulls built up more and more over the thousands of years. The only thing that really resetted was the dining hall in order to keep him fed and alive. The only real loophole is the bootstrap paradox in regards to the clues the doctor left behind for himself.
He can’t visit 1930s New York cuz in the episode they say that the Tardis can never go back there.
There is to many paradox’s.
The one I can't understand is when the 10th Doctor's hand gets cut off and the Doctor regenerates into himself why don't all the new Doctors cut off their hand just after regenerating to regenerate into the same Doctor?
Because all the other doctors aren't selfish and vain as 10.
Russel T was a master of obvious foreshadowing, that's why
While it saved the universe, the metacrisis Doctor was not the Doctor. He was a copy. The real Doctor sacrificed a regeneration in the process.
The Winspear The metacrisis Doctor is part human, only has one heart, ages like a human being and cannot regenerate. He was also created by a very unique set of circumstances, which would be nearly impossible to replicate, including the transfer of some of Donna's memories into him, which very nearly cost her her life.
It would piss off fans
Thank you yet again the picks are great and so entertaining....
Magdalena Koh I just done a poop and thought you might have been in the toilet
The castle from heaven sent wasn’t resetting, the doctor just kept “respawning” because that chamber was a bit like a “save point”. The castle was just a cycle, the Doctor did the same thing every time, such as digging the same amount leaving the same amount of dirt on the shovel or leaving his clothes in the same place to dry.
The Doctor can’t return to Amy because “the timelines are too scrambled”
Right, who else knew that mostbif Moffats era wud be in this list
Yeah, but most of them can be explained. It's number 1 which is a big one that can't be.
thejamsterx The reality bomb would have destroyed all matter in existence. Thankfully, it was stopped by Donna and the clone Doctor. Also, that's not a plot hole. It would not have worked in any other "reality", since this is the only one that it was happening in.
Yeah, but the reality bomb explosion did happen otherwise Donna would have been unable to escape from the parallel universe in Turn Left. It was sort of handwaved with the idea that time retrospectively "healed" itself once the bomb was stopped in the pocket universe.
There's an in-universe explanation for every single one of these. Nice try, WatchMojo.
Ghina Naeem shame the Statue of Liberty made no sense.
Paul Charles Morris I agree it made no sense to us viewers how something so stupidly huge could move like that. But the point of the video is covering in-universe plot holes, not something that defies basic physics irl. (That's all of Who) But the in-universe explanation for this is: The Angels shown in this ep, are seriously OP bc of all the energy they've consumed (remember the size of the hotel?). As such, they've gained the ability to temporarily, for lack of a better word, possess other statues to carry out their work, regardless of whether or not the statue is made of stone. The Statue of Liberty is made of copper, if I'm not mistaken. And one of the most frightening aspects of the Angels is that they can move faster than the human eye can see. So it's not completely out of the realm of Who possibility that the whole scene happened. This whole explanation is an anglamation of things explained in the ep itself and stuff Moffat supplied later. I know it's not the most air-tight or eloquent explanation (come on, it's Moffat) but it still is one.
That's all I have to say for this. Feel free to contradict or supply anything I missed. Hope I helped.
Ghina Naeem But, wasn't the whole point of the Angels was, that they were made of stone?
Paul Charles Morris It was. Still is. Which is why Moffat wanted to drive home the point just how powerful these Angels are. I know when you see this ep, you automatically compare these Angels to all the ones shown before. But the two aren't even on the same planet. It's why at the end the Doctor couldn't risk entering the paradox again. Because that one surviving Angel was powerful enough to set the whole thing in motion again. The only way to describe the Angels in this ep us that they're a new, ultra-powerful breed of Angels. Mate, I know the explanation is wonky at best but Whovians have always had to call in a huge amount of suspension of disbelief when it came Moffat's era. He wanted a way to permanently separate Amy, Rory and the Doctor. Said way was through a paradox, bc for all his disregard for Time Lord rules, the Doctor doesn't mess with paradoxes (to a certain amount). Maybe they could've tried with a new time-meddling species, but that ultimately might've been even more confusing. Moffat got away with it here bc there's never really been a power scale established for the Angels. Remember the one that could displace you in time through a TV screen?
+Paul Charles Morris, Did you need to put your middle name in your UA-cam account?
I always thought the permanent damaging of the wall in Heaven Sent was sort of self evident; the Doctor states that the rooms reset themselves to how they were at the *moment he arrived*. Assuming it takes more than two days for a reset to occur (the time it takes for the dying Doctor to crawl to the teleport and create a new version), that would mean that the castle would then update itself to how it was when the newest incarnation of the Doctor arrived. This would also explain why there are clues hidden around the castle, these are hints that the Doctor left himself close enough to that particular version's death that the castle then updates the default setting to include those details.
Narrator: the statue of liberty is made of copper.
Me: Jesus Christ, no wonder we're running out of the stuff.
The reality bomb’s failure could be a fixed point across timelines.
Ah, the bullshit fixed point argument. We meet again.
Not BS. In the Doctor Who universe, paradox is a gradient. Small ones, the universe can adapt. Huge ones, the universe can’t.
The Doctor (and others) can’t alter their own personal histories without risking breaking a fixed point in time.
In Fires of Pompeii, it was a fixed point because (1) the Doctor caused it to happen and (2) the aliens would have teraformed the earth...wiping out humanity before it could colonize the stars. It was too massive a change to the timeline to NOT have horrible repercussions.
Yes BS, because it is just a made up timey wimey paradox whatever that the writers can use whenever they feel like to explain away a plot hole. Just because it's been well thought out and makes sense in-universe, doesn't make it any less of a get out of jail free card for plot holes that has been overused by this point.
@@amazingdisgrace1684 you don't have to like it but it is explained
TMNT 2003 Master I never said it wasn't explained. It's been very well thought out. But it's still Bullshit.
Nothing from the classic series?
They didn't get right the ones from the new series bc they are lazy and they just wanted to make a video and u think that they gonna see the classic series?
no because they can count
In regards to Clara and the silence... I remember the silence being broadcast in the past before she was born and with there being no record device in the time zone at house hold I doubt there would be a copy seen again... so in present day anyone who didn't witness this shouldent have the memory of the kill order on them correct? So I think this is pretty on point from where I see it.
Great list!
Nearly the entire show is a plothole 😂😂
ESC Lisa Germany I live inside it
Hell, the way you spelt Plothole is a Plothole in itself XD
Dank Scooby Doo sorry :) I forgot to use the english Keyboard 😂
Whole is the Opposite of Part or Partial, not Half. I like PlotWhole, it makes a Point.
Inherently, Time Travel makes Plotholes, on the Whole.
Doesn't mean I don't Enjoy the Story.
New Who is. Not Classic Who
Can you please do Classic Doctor who plot holes
The list wouldn't be significant enough compared to the amount of new-who plot holes
Michael McGrath I think it will
Watchmojo like to act as if classic who doesn’t even exist
There are no plot holes in Classic Who.
@@MrPaulmorris7777 there might be
Just to make sure, Mojo you realize that a paradox does not mean "plot hole" in a sci-fi show about time travel right?
I have so many unanswered questions about the Meta-Crisis Doctor and the parallel universe, and not one of them was "isn't he already a better person?"
Have you noticed that almost all the plot holes in doctor who are by Stephen, Steven, moffett? Hint hint at moffett's competence.
No they're not. Plot holes are things that you can't explain, not something that you don't understand.
thejamsterx hence by not explaining it, you don't understand it. It's like an idea, it's execution is as important as the details of the idea.
Name a "plot hole" then.
thejamsterx incase you haven't noticed we're commenting on a clip ABOUT plot holes. I don't need to 'name a plot hole', I have ten.
Maybe I'm missing out on something, but in the 50th, it was made aware that when multiple incarnations of a Time Lord meet, none of the previous incarnations retain the memories. If that's so, how come in Time Crash, Ten remembers the events of said story from Five's perspective? Also, in The Five Doctors, how come 2 remembers his encounter with 3 from The Three Doctors?
Personally I understand why Clara didn't try to fight the silence
She is an English teacher not a science teacher. Also she has not been a teacher for long in the episode so there's a chance she won't have watched the moon landing yet
Not exactly a plot hole but something that annoys me. in the sontaran ep with the ATMOS why did the cars all stop spewing out gas when the doc did his atmosphere igniting thing? Like if I was a sontaran I would just keep them all running? I know in the end of course they would stop because the ship blows up but when all the gas gets burned away Donna's mum and gramps go outside and its all clear but that's before the doc has even gone up to the ship? Always bugged me that has
We all know it's full of plot holes but you just have to take it with a pinch of salt.
which leads to a heart attack.
Hey, look, a rational fan. KILL HIM! NONE OF THESE ARE PLOT HOLES EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE THERE ARE NO PLOT HOLES IN DOCTOR WHO BECAUSE IT... MAY.. .BE THIS OR THAT OR MAYBE IT WASN'T HIM AND MAYBE IT WAS PINK'S COUSIN WHO HAD A CHILD LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE HIM AND MAYBE THE REAPERS ARE ALL DEAD AND MAYBE DOCTORS CAN COEXIST WHEN FANSERVICE IS NEEDED!
I think there's a plot hole in Series 4's 'Turn Left'. In this episode we see what would happen had Donna not saved the Doctor's life in the 2006 Christmas Special 'The Runaway Bride'. This was after Series 2 and before Series 3, so that also means that everything that the Doctor had done in series 3 wouldn't have happened as well as Series 4 up to that episode. While the events of the 2006 Christmas special and those in the Series 3 episode 'Smith and Jones' are accounted for, as well as the events in 'Partners in Crime' and 'The Sontaran Stratagem' two-parter, historical episodes are not. Surely the world would have ended during the events of 'The Shakespeare Code' centuries earlier when the Carrionites broke through without the Doctor there to stop them. Surely in the 'Daleks in Manhattan' two-parter the Daleks would have taken over the world in the early 1900's without the Doctor being there to stop them. 'Human Nature' can be ignored as the Family of Blood were only ever on earth in that episode because they had followed the Doctor and that wouldn't have happened in this timeline. In Series 4 the world would have also likely ended in the historical episode 'The Fires of Pompeii', and there certainly would have been repercussions from 'The Unicorn and the Wasp' in history. So why is it that history still runs smoothly up to this point when the Doctor wasn't there to protect the Earth from all of those historical disasters? While I really love the episode, this plot hole has really played on my mind. It could be argued that these issues resolved themselves in other ways, but some are just too blaring to glaze over with that explanation, especially the Pompeii and Dalek episodes.
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Thank you
The Orson one really annoys me but the answer is he changes the universe enough times!
About his age, Eccleston's Doctor didn't say "I'm 900 years old", he said "900 years of time and space", meaning that's how long he'd been traveling, which he certainly wasn't doing from the very moment of his birth.
My favourite Doctor is Matt Smith!😍😍
Newt Scamander mine is Christopher Eccleston
Newt Scamander mine is too
Rowan Atkinson was the best doctor.
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mine too honestly
Tennent or Smith I can never decide lol
A few you missed are:
Turn Left- The Doctor somehow still being involved in the Racnoss's plan without Donna, even though it's only because he met her that he learnt something was going on and without the wedding how did he get the remote that caused his death.
Journeys end - The Doctor doesn't die stopping his regeneration, when a time lord body dies, the cells destroy the old body and starts from scratch, hence the new face, repairing the old body isn't part of the process as it would be pointless. It would be like taking the effort to fix a broken phone only to immediately throw it away once it's fixed and buy a new one.
The Time War- The time Lords have the power to erase entire species from existence, but don't do it to the Daleks. Instead they send the Doctor, a known Pacifist to do it in Genesis of the Daleks and no surprise he fails.
Waters of mars- The Daleks don't kill Adelaide to stop humanities advancement of space travel. They shouldn't care about changing time since their whole plan would have rewritten their own personal history. If earth was destroyed in 2008 then they never would have conquered earth in the 22 century.
In Turn left, if the Doctor died, who stopped the caryonites from using shakespeare as their puppet? Why did the Master not take over the world without the Doctor to stop him?
I don't know if I could actually explain the Carrionites problem, but the Master never took over because the Doctor dying before Series 3 means that he never went to the end of the universe, therefore the Master was never able to steal his TARDIS and become Prime Minister
Alfie Thomas That's true, but didn't Harold Saxon order the soldiers to fire on the Christmas star?
Joe Edwards Yes. He traveled back a year before he was elected as Prime Minister to establish himself as a respected citizen of the UK. He fabricated birth certificates and university degrees to give him a history and used the hypnotic archangel network to make everyone believe in him. I think they mentioned it in The Sound of Drums. I don't think that used that particular audio clip in Turn Left, they just showed the Webstar being blown up, suggesting someone else gave the order in that timeline
Alfie Thomas Fair enough. I had completely forgotten that The Master had stolen the Doctors TARDIS to travel back from the end of time. I was just thinking about him being Harold Saxon and him giving the order on Christmas day which is why I thought about it being a plot hole. Thanks for interacting with me.
He can't just visit Amy. She was sent back in a paradox, right? It became a fixed point in time, something that can not be undone. It was like she never existed in that universe so there is no Amy to visit. (I'm sorry if i'm very wrong, it was a while ago that I saw that episode!)
You're right about the fixed point in time part but not the part where she never existed in that universe
The deal with the silence moon landing was that it was a different time line. They even said that.
In Dalek, which is set in 2012 no one in the base knows what a Dalek is, yet in The Stolen Earth and Journeys End everyone sees Daleks in the skies and on Earth which is further backed but in Waters of Mars and takes place in 2008/9. I see that as a major plot hole.
The Pandorica Opens and the Big Bang rebooted the timeline so the Journey's End was retconned
Only 10 ??
TERRY. W Yes, only ten. Can you not count?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Easy-peasy.
10=JOURNEY'S END ISN'T CANNON
9=THIS WAS A DIFFERENT SILENCE, GOOD VERSIONS AND AS THEY WERE AT THEIR HOME THEY COULD FIX/BYPASS THIS.
8=IT WAS NEVER VERIFIED THAT DANNY AND CLARA WERE GRANDPARENTS TO ORSON PINK, ORSON PINK WAS A DECENDANT TO DANNY'S BROTHER, POSSIBLY TWIN BROTHER.
7=THE WALL IS NOT PART OF THE CASTLE OR THE WORLD, IT IS NEXT TO IT.
6=THE ANGELS TAKE MANHATTAN IS NOT CANNON
5=ASYLUM OF THE DALEKS IS NOT CANNON
4=THERE IS A THEORY THAT WHEN HE BECAME THE WAR DOCTOR HE RECOUNTED, HE COULD ALSO BE TALKING IN DIFFERENT EARTH TERMS, OR YEARS THAT DON'T COUNT LIKE SIMILAR EVENTS TO HEAVEN SENT SUCH AS BEING F5ROZEN IN TIME FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS OR IN A TIMELOOP.
3=FATHERS DAY IS NOT CANNON
2=THE ANGELS TAKE MANHATTAN IS NOT CANNON.
1=JOURNEYS END IS NOT CANNON.
Lmaoooo :D I was gonna comment the same thing!
@@chriszone50 Good points. 👍 I go by one intriguing theory I came across a while ago that New Who IS an alternate timeline/reality and that the 'Shalka Doctor' (Richard E. Grant - Scream of the Shalka) is in fact a continuation of the Classic Who reality. 😊
@@chriszone50 why do you say none of these episodes are canon?
*is that a dalek? I havent seen one of those in a long time...*
Call these plot-holes? UNIT dating: THAT's a plot-hole!
Missed out all of the ones in Name of the Doctor. The Clara thing is a major plot hole. Like Name of the Doctor is based around one. Since we already met Clara in the asylum and in Victorian London, that means that his timeline has already been messed with and fixed, so when the GI enters his timestream, it should have no affect on him because from his point of view Clara has already saved him time and time again as it's fixed.
Not a plot hole. Time is in flux and can be rewritten. Remember that Adelaide Brooke was supposed to die on Mars? The doctor changes those events so that she dies on Earth instead. It's the same principle. And no, it's not until Clara jumps into his timeline that those events are cemented.
thejamsterx You don't understand at all. The Doctor met different versions of Clara already, meaning she's already been into his time stream in the timeline, and has always been in there. That means she's always been fighting the GI in his timeline, before the events of Name. So when the GI steps into his time stream, Clara is already in there, as is he, and always has been. So the universe SHOULDN'T be altered and he should either always be in pain, at all times, or never be in any pain.
Just think about it for one second. This isn't like the Adelaide thing in the slightest.
So you're saying that the Clara travelling with the doctor doesn't need to jump into his time line because she has already done it? I think you're the one that doesn't understand.
The only thing that matters is the present. There are multiple possible futures. Some of them might happen, some of them won't. Clara could chose not to jump into the timeline and the doctor would die.
thejamsterx No I'm not saying that at all. Oh my fucking god. I'm saying because she's already in all of his timeline, THIS Doctors timeline, it shouldn't change the universe or hurt the Doctor when the GI steps in. This Doctor has already met Clara in Asylum and Snowmen, meaning she's already affecting his timeline as he's living. I'm NOT saying she doesn't have to go into his timeline, I'm saying that BY LOGIC the GI wouldn't affect the universe or the Doctor by stepping in, because they've already always been there. Please think. It's an easy concept and you're missing he point so much.
I see what you mean, but at the same time I agree with thejamsterx. The doctor is in pain because at that moment, the modern Clara is still with him and hasn't stepped into his timeline. Yes, he's met Clara before, and she has saved him time and time again, but the GI is at that moment rewriting his timeline in the past. The doctor knows Clara has saved him already, and yet unless Clara jumped into the Doctor's timeline, then the events of the past (where she saved him) never happened, and his timeline is being rewritten. That's why he's in pain.
"If Twelve's trapped..."
Can we please stop this!? He's the Doctor. Not Twelve. Matt Smith didn't play Eleven. Millie Bobby Brown plays Eleven.
You're talking about Heaven Sent, it's obvious which Doctor you're talking about. You can say "If the Doctor's trapped...". If there were multiple in that episode then it's "If The Twelfth Doctor's trapped..."
I know it's pretty silly but it really irritates me haha!
calling the doctor by numbers is a very common and accepted thing among fans
its just feels wrong though... as if they're nothing more than just another one in a long line
But in a sense, they are. They are different personalities, looks, everything... The only things kept from the previous regenerations are their memories. Hell, in The Day of the Doctor, he even states "You might say I've been doing this all my lives."
@@FirstSlateProductionsOfficial They literally are
He said 900 years of travel, not his age as Doctor #9. He was already a grandfather when he stole the TARDIS and ran away!
With number 2, he said in the episode that the tardis can’t go back to that point in time, because it would rip time and space apart
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I'm sorry but the majority of these are at most, unexplained or unfinished plots. That is not the same thing as a plot hole. More so, most of them have been subsequently explained, or just set up in way that your intelligence should come into play.
Orson pink for example. At no point did they say he was a direct descendant of Danny's. YOU came to that conclusion. I dont have kids but I'm sure there's a chance some great, great, great, great nephew of mine might look just like me one day.
Some of these can't even be described as unexplained plot points. For example Amy's goodbye. The doctor litteraly tells her he won't be able to come to her, and explains why. They are actually telling us that he can't go to her but you think it's a plot hole for why?
Even the reapers, who says they haven't been back? Just because we don't see them again on screen doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We all know there's more to the doctors adventures than what we see on screen. Also that was very specific to messing with a fixed point in time. Something the doctor tries not to do, and although it has happened since this episode, time corrected itself.
Terrible, terrible video.
This is what I love about Doctor Who compared to other sci-fi series and movies. All of these are solved with either, "Time Lord technology, you wouldn't understand" or a dismissive wave coupled with, "Timey-wimey..."
- Orson Pink would have been unwritten when Danny died
- Every time Capaldi relives the wall he remembers more from the last time so gets a little further each time
- Moffat’s got a get around for age, the Doctor lies, I hate that
- The TARDIS can’t go back to around that time zone without tearing a hole in time (that was explained in the show...)
Biggest plot hole: For 51 years, not a single Timelord or Time Lady changed gender and yet apparently according to the show in the last few years its a common occurrence.
*47 years. And could you explain what the plot hole is? A plot hole is something that cannot be explained. This doesn't need explaining, it's an addition to the lore. For 3 years, no Time Lords regenerated, is that a plot hole too?
thejamsterx It's not an addition to lore - it's an alteration which goes against establish lore and raises unanswerable questions. *51 years.
So is the concept of regeneration an alteration as well then?
And please tell me what lore contradicts it.
47 years. When Matt said "I'm a girl", even though it's a joke, it introduces the concept into the canon and is firmly cemented next year with the corsair. And not to mention Missy. So if you still say 51 years then you are just disputing facts and lying.
thejamsterx Nobody changes gender on screen for 51 years and it is always immediately assumed for 48 years that when anyone regenerates they will be the same gender afterwards (if you disagree I suggest you watch Planet of the Spiders). The whole "I'm a girl" is indeed a joke and only that.
I don't have a problem with the gender swap. It was inevitable. Who cares if it is a minor plot hole?
But where did 47 years come from? If it's 47, then explain the 50th anniversary.
The main one I remember catching is that the 11th doctor begins to regenerate the first time he is killed by the astronaut when it is made clear that the regeneration from 10th to 11th was his last one.
after I got spiked with mdma and tried to understand quite literally everything my brian ticks a bit when thinking too externally, so when it comes to doctor who I tend not to question it
About oswin, the doctor probably did know but wanted to play it out cos he hadn't seen something like this before and was fascinated by it
Your last two suggestions have holes in them as well. In "The Angels Take Manhattan", the Doctor tried to travel to New York in the time period mention but the TARDIS was blocked from even entering it, which is why he said "I will never see you again" to Amy. Secondly, because the Reality Bomb was never detonated in this reality, it never reached the Medusa Cascade which would have caused all the parallell dimensions to collapse.
Do you know how the multiverse works? Every decision that you make creates a parallel universe. So there must be at least one universe where Davros succeeded and the reality bomb was set off, thereby destroying all other universes (including this one).
So take the TARDIS somewhere else in the USA and get a train to NY. Whole thing was stupid.
@@thefonzkiss that's not the reason he can't save Amy and Rory.
On the weeping angel sending Amy back in time, I think (I don't remember if this is right though) when they send something back in time, it messes up that timeline and makes it impossible to land into with a time machine
I’ve noticed number 7 as well. In addition, where did the shovel come from? And why doesn’t the “I am in 12” go away?
My theory for number 9 is that somehow the silence were edited out of the moon landing footage after it's initial airing somehow.
Or it could be because during the moon landing the silence say "you SHOULD kill us" and not you will kill us, they give a suggestion not a demand plus Clara is currently naked, unarmed and surrounded so she wouldn't try to fight them
The gravestone made Amy and Rorys death a fixed point in time...
What’s great is that most of the plot holes are from Moffat’s era, making it hilarious and obvious that he is terrible.
I am actually legit dissapointed that these weren't even remotely some sorta plot holes, but just details that USUALLY don't even need explanation since they're pretty obvious and self-explanatory.
You missed the plot hole of the Doctor not recognising Missy and the plot hole of the 11th Doctor not becoming that dwarf thing when he was about to die.
In regards to number 4:
I’ve seen a few theory videos in the past, that’ve suggested the idea that the doctor did basically just lose count sometime whist he was number 8. Mostly due to lengthy amount of time that he supposedly spent in that incarnation. An so ever since then has just been counting again from 0, which is why he claimed to be 953 as number 7 in the classic series, but then only 900 as number 9.
Which’d kinda make sense if u ask me...
Didn't the 11th Doctor say once that he was so old that he couldn't remember if he was lying about his age? (I think it was when he was locked in a cell with the 10th Doctor and the war Doctor)
StillJustDreaming, yeah that’s true lol. It’s kinda an ambiguous statement tho. Just ‘cause he can’t remember if he’s lying or not, that’s not to say that he isn’t XD
One plot hole that does exist but you never even mentioned is how the 11th Doctor manages to heal Rivers wrist in Angels Take Manhattan despite having no regelation energy left as he is on his last regeneration.
In the Amy end one I swear he says something about too many paradoxes or something as a reason they can't follow Rory at the beginning so presume that still counts at the end!
It is called free choice, headcanon. Good episodes=cannon, bad episodes=failed tryouts. Don't include 50 years worth of accumulated shit in the canon.
It just warms my heart Amy wrote more books because in the bells of Saint John episode you can see the book The Car reads saree Clara reads is written by Amelia Williams which is just awesome there's less and less references to her as a series goes on but there is a couple references after she dies dies kind of but it's heartwarming to me because I smiled when I saw it