Stellaris vs Endless Space 2, How Do They Compare?

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  • @solomani5959
    @solomani5959 Рік тому +11

    Which is most like Moo2?

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому +3

      Good question! I don't know the answer to that since it's been a while since I've played MOO2 but it sounds like a good video to make! I'll try to get something like that published soon, maybe before the end of January.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому +4

      Get the answer here!
      ua-cam.com/video/P1fQRqVyjjg/v-deo.html

    • @solomani5959
      @solomani5959 Рік тому +2

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 Nice, will check it out.

    • @Leverquin
      @Leverquin 4 місяці тому +1

      just play Remnants of the Precursors

    • @solomani5959
      @solomani5959 4 місяці тому

      @@Leverquin thank you for this tip!

  • @conseglierie
    @conseglierie 2 роки тому +91

    There is a market in ES2, you just have to unlock it. You can buy and sell ships, ressources and recruit new heroes.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +8

      Wow, didn't notice that! I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

    • @anthonymaximus8561
      @anthonymaximus8561 Рік тому

      You mean the cheat dlc?

    • @conseglierie
      @conseglierie Рік тому +15

      @@anthonymaximus8561I don't think thats a dlc. In the base game there is a tec called "Galactic Commodities Exchange" and it leads to "Impactless Sites".

  • @torodile9399
    @torodile9399 2 роки тому +105

    What i like about stellaris is how you can create a you're own story from becoming democratic and pacifist to becoming xenophobe and militarist and fight the lag in the late game

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +12

      Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I usually like to take a militarist approach. Taking on the galaxy is the most fun for me and I like the option of becoming the crisis. I'd like to become the Galactic Emperor in a game but haven't set that as one of my goals in any of the Stellaris games I'm playing yet.

    • @torodile9399
      @torodile9399 2 роки тому +11

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 whenever i become galactic emperor i always watch the scene where palpatine declare the creation of the first galactic empire

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +3

      Sounds awesome!

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      @@Jinkis I haven't played Endless Space 2 lately but plan to do a series of videos on it soon, playing a dictatorship sounds interesting. I absolutely love Stellaris because it has so many options to it, no game ever plays the same.

    • @ghosthookcc2050
      @ghosthookcc2050 Рік тому +1

      you can do that in es2 also? Did anybody make research before judging this game, he even missed the market...

  • @superalatreon1
    @superalatreon1 2 роки тому +18

    Great video! Haven't seen other youtube channels compare these two games, this was exactly what I was looking for. It sounds like I might prefer Endless Space 2 for the planet renders, visuals, and the six different win conditions to choose from and work towards.

  • @Kraci1ius
    @Kraci1ius 2 роки тому +33

    Endless Space 2 is more "grounded to reality". It's surreal. So beautiful. So much that I don't want to ruin any planet (I'm that annoying environmentalist that leaves a desert world the way it is because I like to imagine how people would colonize such a planet.) Stellaris is where the real conquest begins. You'll understand the scale when the empire reaches Kardashev 3. Interdimensional invasion, Virtual Worlds, Alderson Disk, The Birch World. It's ridiculous. xD

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +5

      I love both games but you're right about Stellaris, the scale is unimaginable. Endless Space 2 is a lot of fun also. I've had so many comments about that game that I plan to do at least a few videos on it in the coming weeks.

    • @breezywarhead8489
      @breezywarhead8489 Рік тому +1

      I usually destroy their capitol planets lol

  • @overseer5660
    @overseer5660 2 роки тому +25

    Like Endless Space 2 because of the visuals and lore.
    Like Stellaris because of the play style. Also no turns.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, they both have their pros and cons. I used to dislike turn-based games a lot but have changed my mind about that over the years. ES2 does have really great visuals.

    • @cloverraven
      @cloverraven 4 місяці тому

      Es2 looks better. I think stellaris would beat it if the artwork was bigger. Like the hero’s look so cool in es2. The art in both is great but I feel like stellaris UI holds the art back.
      Stellaris probably plays better in every way. But like the first time you play crusader kings, and you want to attack someone and it won’t let you, the casus beli system is frustrating. I also like in stellaris, it feels like there’s a bigger story. The pop ups, and choices, and random events.
      Es2 is cheaper. I have every DLC for stellaris. But on console. And they are behind PC on updates by a full year. But I can’t spend 100$ to buy stellaris on PC. Especially when I already have on console. Es2 with DLC is 25$ right now.

  • @gxostghost
    @gxostghost 2 роки тому +26

    this was first video i saw comparing these two. great video.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks! I plan do do a few more game comparisons. Although old, I plan to compare SINs to Stellaris, which is another favorite space strategy game of mine.

    • @gxostghost
      @gxostghost 2 роки тому

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 never heard of it, but I would have interested though

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      It's still fairly new and small, but growing :)

    • @ophidahlia1464
      @ophidahlia1464 2 роки тому +2

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 they really need to to release a Sins of Solar Empire 2. There's a real dearth of true RTS games these days despite how many players still love them and keep playing and modding old games like Empire at War, Supreme Commander, Dawn of War, and others. People might assume these games are dated but good mechanics never go out of date

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      My sentiments exactly. I love RTS games like SINs and it was my "go to" game before I got Stellaris. The games you mentioned were all excellent and I especially liked Dawn of War. At least some of the publishers are paying some attention to it since Distant Worlds 2 was recently released. Dune: Spice wars looks good too, which is due to be released 4/26/2022.

  • @Perjoss
    @Perjoss Рік тому +1

    excellent video, thanks for taking the time to make it and upload it

  • @mharizsaifuddin7059
    @mharizsaifuddin7059 2 роки тому +12

    Endless Space 2 is your basic 4X
    Stellaris is 4X but you like to roleplay

  • @GeneticResearch
    @GeneticResearch 2 роки тому +22

    The biggest difference is, Stellaris have a truth living space where you are constantly in with moving ships, space aliens, traders, space stations, combat etc.. If you find anomalys or events you can zoom into the specific system and truly watch it. You can build stations, megastructures and truly watch it how they build and how they work after it.
    Endless Space 2 is more a game board like Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 where you and the enemy place ship imaginations around systems. Mostly everything are only imaginations, also the star systems itself. The only situation to get into the real space are the short combat cutscenes or these cutscenes when you destroying planets and stars. So in reality its also not realy the truth space.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +1

      But I have to admit that those combat cutscenes are really great!

    • @GeneticResearch
      @GeneticResearch 2 роки тому +3

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 Yes, they are. But i wish that there are more space in this space game.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +3

      @@GeneticResearch True, you can never have too much space! :)

  • @misiu9049
    @misiu9049 2 місяці тому +3

    Endless space 2 is like 8 times cheaper.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 місяці тому +1

      @@misiu9049 Well, I have to admit that that’s true! Thanks for the comment!

  • @Cutflower
    @Cutflower 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for this buddy, subbed!

  • @tryler449
    @tryler449 2 роки тому +1

    This was super helpful. Thank you!

  • @StephenRybacki
    @StephenRybacki Рік тому +2

    Great video. Isn't Stelaris more (or at least part) an RTS game since there can be a clock running in the upper right corner? Sure, you can pause it but ES2 is just straight up turn based I think.

  • @tanthokg
    @tanthokg 2 роки тому +9

    I have played both.
    What I like about Stellaris is that I can spent my time staring at a planet, a ship, a megastructure. The allowance to customize your species, your empire, is what makes it very diverse.
    But ES2 has some very deep and interesting stories, events, and almost every species has its background. Even the most insignificant species have their own uniqueness. And of course, the soundtrack and the OST, ES2 is so much better at this.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +2

      I like them both as well and I agree with your comments, I just wish ES2 had a few more DLCs available. Anyway, I've been thinking about doing a series of videos on ES2 but I'm not sure yet. Most of the search traffic on this channel is for Endless Space 2, and that surprises me at least a little after all the research I've done while looking for popular games, for some reason it just never bubbled up to the top of my list.
      Thanks for the comment!

  • @cow_tools_
    @cow_tools_ Рік тому +2

    Thank you! I'm getting back into computer games after a long time and wanted to know. I think I'm just going to play them both! Hah.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому

      That's always my firs option! Thanks for the comment!

    • @brednbudr2406
      @brednbudr2406 2 місяці тому

      Thats where I'm at too. Think I'll start with stellaris them try ES2. I just don't think ES2 combat is very immersive. I saw they have a very cool ship editor though. And the game is beautiful. One of the best soundtracks too

  • @TipsyTaterTot
    @TipsyTaterTot Рік тому +4

    ES2 has both a market and a system viewer.....

  • @syenno
    @syenno 2 роки тому +2

    Never played Endless Space 2 but really like Stellaris. I mainly played Void Dweller (Even before the trade meta) but the sprawl rework made me use Remnants instead. Don't need Void Dwellers to be OP, but the pop growth curve and colony size thing together hurts a lot.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +1

      I'm trying to get used to the sprawl changes myself. I love Stellaris as well, probably my favorite game right now.

  • @jonathanz.9675
    @jonathanz.9675 2 роки тому +17

    Stellaris is too much like a job, and it’s aesthetics aren’t as good as endless space 2

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +4

      It can be like a job, but I guess strangely I like most of the micromanagement that goes on with it. The fun of the exploration and conquest make it worthwhile to me.

  • @brednbudr2406
    @brednbudr2406 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the biggest glaring differences between the games is the combat systems and the "end turn" style of ES2. The combat is probably the biggest turn off of ES2 for me. I wish we could have ES2 but with Sins of a Solar Empire combat or something. The presetting tactics then auto resolve or watch the video is pretty lackluster.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 місяці тому +1

      Love your idea about the SINs combat, that would be great to add to either one of the games. Thanks for your comment!

  • @rodrigoherman
    @rodrigoherman Рік тому +1

    There is something mentioned that is not completely correct. Endless Space 2 has a market. You need research an especifict tech to access it.
    Worth to mention that Endless space 2 is turn based. Stellaris don´t have turns. You can slowdown or pause time.
    Battle, fleet formation and tatics also are completely different.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому

      Yes, I realized that error after producing the video but thanks for pointing that out. Everything else you mentioned is entirely correct as well.

  • @Larry55P
    @Larry55P 2 роки тому

    Good job, thank you!

  • @Rawkit_Surgeon
    @Rawkit_Surgeon 2 роки тому +5

    I never played stellaris.
    I like endless space because I already overcame the learning curve. I'm afraid I would also waste as much time in stellaris or more.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +9

      I've found most of the grand strategy games have a steep learning curve but I think Stellaris was well worth it and for me was one of the easier Paradox games for me to learn. It's very deep and immersive and it has become my favorite game. If you ever want to try a new game I'd recommend it. It's very frequently on sale for under $10 and it is well worth that cost.

    • @Rawkit_Surgeon
      @Rawkit_Surgeon 2 роки тому +5

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 that's exactly what I fear. Another game tempting me for just "one more turn" before bedtime.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +4

      LOL, I know exactly what you mean :) That makes for an unhappy wife sometimes, at least for me. "Just a few more minutes..."

    • @ophidahlia1464
      @ophidahlia1464 2 роки тому +1

      Stellaris is more of a 4X than a Grand Strategy game but it does have enough GS mechanics blended in to be something unique, but for an experienced 4X player it's the easiest Paradox game to learn out of all of them. They're different enough that I still play both

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      I found Stellaris the easiest game to learn as well out of all the Paradox games. Part of the reason, I'm sure, is that I lean mostly toward space strategy games and I know that helped motivate me. I have most of their other games, like Hearts of Iron 4 and Crusader Kings 3 and Stellaris helped me understand those a little better.

  • @DigitalNomadOnFIRE
    @DigitalNomadOnFIRE Рік тому +1

    I hadn't noticed you getting tongue tied till you pointed it out.
    So I think you should just press on, not a big deal...

  • @leohf1632
    @leohf1632 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for the video
    I discovered endless space 1 not long ago and enjoyed it very much. I think I will stick with ES2

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +3

      I have them both (I'm kind of a Space Game junkie :). I'm with you, I'll stick with Endless Space 2. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @Aurinkohirvi
      @Aurinkohirvi 2 роки тому

      I hated them Endless Space 1 dreadnoughts that had huge amounts of defence and healing. Whole fleet can't destroy such ship, no matter what kind of weapons you had, if the defending ship was couple of techs higher than your fleet. And AI made plenty of them. No matter if your empire was 3X bigger and stronger, defence-dreadnoughts ate all your fleets.

  • @anaromana8183
    @anaromana8183 2 роки тому +5

    What about combat?
    Much control over that in stellaris than endless space!

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +2

      Agreed! Stellaris does a better job when it comes to ship-to-ship combat. Thanks!

    • @anaromana8183
      @anaromana8183 2 роки тому +2

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 This is why i like MOO2.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +1

      @@anaromana8183 I have MOO 2 but haven’t played it much. Guess I need to check that out since ship-to-ship is a favorite of mine.

    • @ophidahlia1464
      @ophidahlia1464 2 роки тому

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 it's pretty wild, like I said in my other comment good game design never gets out of date. For a game that came out in 1996 it's still extremely playable and enjoyable, it really got everything right out of the gate and we wouldn't have Stellaris or ES2 without MOO2 having established the genre

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      Agreed although I didn't play that one too much. I was deeply immersed in Imperium Galactica around then and it's still one of my favorites of all time.

  • @LEVILUP23
    @LEVILUP23 Рік тому

    That late game lag in Stellaris is the reason I switched into playing ES2. It is a deal breaker

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому

      I'm running into that a little bit myself right now but the game does perform much better than it used to.

  • @dnaseb9214
    @dnaseb9214 2 роки тому +7

    I love endless space 2.
    Never tried Stelaris, looks too deep and expensive.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +2

      It's pretty deep so you might not like it although some automation features have recently been added for planet management, making it a little easier to manage a start empire at least. You can always catch it on sale, sometimes it's on sale at STEAM for $9.99. it's worth getting at that price, where the cost starts adding up is the DLCs.

    • @dnaseb9214
      @dnaseb9214 2 роки тому +2

      @@lonerstrategygames4993
      Its the dlcs I worry about. Tried crusader king 3 and didnt like it. I imagine this is similar.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +1

      Pretty much. I have all the DLC, the Utopia DLC is one of the better ones.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      @Nibor von Seifen It is easy to quit Stellaris mid-game, simply because it can be a long game and war does seem to be an inevitable thing. If that's something you don't like then quitting the game is understandable. I'm not selling anything but the Overlord DLC for Stellaris does add more options for winning the game through vassalization, you might want to take a look at it if you don't already have it.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      @Nibor von Seifen I'm like you, I have to have every DLC available for a game when I play it! Wow, I haven't read the reviews lately for Overlord, I guess I'd stay away from it if I were you until it's on sale and a few patches have been released for it. As for ES2, I just downloaded all the DLC for it (thanks to the STEAM sale :) since I plan to make some videos about it in a few weeks, then maybe I can give you a better opinion about it. Sorry I can't be of more help.

  • @paulvarda5318
    @paulvarda5318 2 роки тому +1

    what scope is Stellaris play area? from what you show in the video it only seems to be the Sol solar system. are there alien races in Solaris? or only human factions?

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +6

      Stellaris is played in a massive galaxy with hundreds of stars and thousands of planets, sorry if my video made you think otherwise. Without any DLC you get 10 races to choose from, 2 humanoid, 1 reptilian, 1 Avian, 2 Mammalian, 1 Molluscold, 2 Fungoid, and 1 Anthropoid. Each DLC adds more.

  • @ChaoticNeutralMatt
    @ChaoticNeutralMatt 6 місяців тому

    Stelaris never really kept me around. It's a game i want to like, but never find myself doing so long term.
    That said hopefully the new dlc changes things up.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  6 місяців тому

      Stellaris, at least for me, has enough going on to keep me interested. It' still my favorite game and new DLC always freshens it up. Thanks for the comment!

  • @steveo3336
    @steveo3336 Рік тому

    Great video!!

  • @drakestorm4691
    @drakestorm4691 Рік тому +1

    Amikor kijött az Endless Space 2, fénysebességgel kukáztam a Stellarist a maga borzasztó grafikájával.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому

      Thanks for the comment but I can’t read it.

    • @matej2733
      @matej2733 Рік тому +1

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 He does not like Stelaris over E2, I guess 😁

  • @ryandang5525
    @ryandang5525 Рік тому

    Did i miss the combat review??

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому +1

      No, that’s something I actually missed in this video. I’ve been asked about that a couple of times. I might do a short video that compares combat.

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos 4 місяці тому

    stellris is still the greatest space-based 4x game of all time.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  4 місяці тому

      That’s pretty hard to argue with. There was an old game titled Imperium Galactica that I really loved, probably more than Stellaris. Thanks for the comment!

  • @kalibiznes
    @kalibiznes Рік тому +1

    Stellaris = ❤

  • @danieldeelite
    @danieldeelite Рік тому +3

    Endless Space 2 is a boardgame. Stellaris is a Star Trek simulator

  • @voiceovreason8690
    @voiceovreason8690 8 місяців тому

    I've neve finished a game of Stellaris after 1000hrs because of the end games lag which they never address, so there is that.

  • @Leverquin
    @Leverquin 4 місяці тому +1

    they don't one is crap, other is fine.

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 2 роки тому +1

    Why no word about the races and their styles?

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому

      A couple of reasons really. First, I wasn't really sure what people might actually be interested in and secondly, a detailed look at the races and their playstyles could be a whole video unto itself, an idea that hadn't occurred to me until now. That's probably worth pursuing so thanks for the idea, although that one will take a lot of research and time so it won't be published any time soon.

  • @ploed
    @ploed Місяць тому

    I like ES:2 more.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Місяць тому

      I like them both but I definitely prefer Stellaris, can't say exactly why. I think a lot of at, at least for me, is the way the games are presented and the UI.

  • @latter-daysaintbatman2679
    @latter-daysaintbatman2679 Рік тому +4

    Stellaris is just the beginning of Intergalactic Strategy PC Games. Endless Space 2 continues it in an advanced approach.
    Batman: Alfred, status report on the fleet.
    Alfred: Sir, Tony Stark's fleet has been utterly destroyed. No losses from our side.
    Batman: Proceed to destroying Thanos and his Armada.
    Alfred: Sir, it isn't just Thanos. The Apocalyptic fleet of Apokolips led by Darkseid has approached our fleets. They are already assaulting our front lines. What are your orders, sir?
    Batman: Pull in the reserves and call in the rest of our allied fleet.
    Alfred: The combined forces of Darkseid and Thanos. Never thought I'd see the day.
    Batman: Alfred....
    Alfred: Ah, right away sir!

  • @dirtbikeryzz
    @dirtbikeryzz 2 роки тому +1

    ES2 is wayyyy better

  • @project.jericho
    @project.jericho 2 роки тому +2

    Quote unquote..

  • @shadowraven1153
    @shadowraven1153 Рік тому

    What i like about stellaris is the multiplayer works.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому

      I'll have to take your word on that, I never mess with any of the multiplayer stuff.

    • @shadowraven1153
      @shadowraven1153 Рік тому

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 Im speaking only in my and my friends experience here but everytime we try to play multiplayer recently the game desyncs which causes you to reload the match. And we arent able to reload the match even after clean installs and the whole shebang. Fun game but for us multiplayer is basically unplayable. It pisses me off most because it doesnt seem to affect some people so if you do try it, i could work just fine.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  Рік тому

      @@shadowraven1153 I might try it sometime but what you've mentioned is one of the main reasons I don't play multiplayer games.

    • @shadowraven1153
      @shadowraven1153 Рік тому

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 If you do have some friends to try it with i hope you will enjoy the endless pain. Either from the game not working or everybodies busted ass custom factions if it works. It has worked in the past for us and it was a fucking blast i admit.

    • @stellarvarna7222
      @stellarvarna7222 Рік тому

      @@shadowraven1153 If I ever get interested in multiplayer I'll give it a try.

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear Рік тому

    Bro doesn't even know ES2. 😂

  • @DanBarry851
    @DanBarry851 2 роки тому +4

    Stellaris is better.

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +6

      Although I like them both I have to agree, I think Stellaris is better, especially when you have all the DLCs that go along with it.

    • @DanBarry851
      @DanBarry851 2 роки тому +3

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 I remember liking the first Endless Space but never got into the 2nd one. Stellaris just has so much more depth that I don't think you can really compare them

    • @lonerstrategygames4993
      @lonerstrategygames4993  2 роки тому +4

      Stellaris is like the gift that keeps giving when you consider all the DLC, and I agree it has much more depth. It looks like the 3.5 patch is going to give ground combat a major rework. Can't wait for that!

    • @ignacio4159
      @ignacio4159 2 роки тому +1

      @@lonerstrategygames4993 really? Has there been any confirmation from paradox on ground combat improvements?

    • @sunstrafer3175
      @sunstrafer3175 2 роки тому +1

      @@ignacio4159 They have not confirmed but I have seen a video and it looks pretty impressive. I will post a video when I know more and am sure it's actually true.