@matteorossi1172 more cards often ends up being less interesting because decks become more homogenous. The most common number to do something like this is 3
It would be cool if you gave a shout-out to the 3 card blind format, which is a similar format with an existing online community. I watched your first 4 card tournament and wanted to find something similar that I could participate in, and since then I have found 3 card blind. I would have appreciated something to give me more information about how I could do something silimar, so I think it would be nice if you gave future viewers that opportunity.
The strongest tool in a Magic player's toolkit is communication with other players and bouncing ideas off of each other. Not spoiling the end, but I think the result is a fine example of how having a great idea and sharpening it against your friends is the best way to build decks in Magic.
The red deck has 3 threats, so even though Foil can stop 1 of them, Rootwalla + Gut Shot ties or loses to the other two (block and shoot two goblin tokens or trade with the 2/2 goblin)
The only thing i could think of is when the foil deck needed to start. Then decided to pass but because the opponent smelled shenanigans they also passed and they tied in infinte passing? otherwise i cant see that deck loose no matter the outcome. Edit. from what ive read in the comments, the two deck with 2 goblins where its demise both goblins are 1/2 and the burn spell cant kill the second goblin on its own.
Right now I can't really see how it could hope to even tie against the opponent. Three goblin tokens alone win against it, so Kuldotha is a must-counter, but the other two should win against Rootwalla + Gut Shot in every line. Either way, the Foil deck is by far the coolest in my opinion!
I love the fact that those two guys came into the tournament with decks already prepared confident they were going to win, and they did it. They won. They did indeed crack the meta
Another great video on a single digit card format! I know my channel and community is a tiny fraction of the size of yours, but I would love to talk to you a little about our community if you are interested in exploring this niche within Magic a little further.
Hey! It's you! I discovered your channel from the comments section on our last 4-card video and did a bit of a deep dive. Your community is wonderful :D What you're doing is so cool! I don't know how a collaboration would work exactly but I'd be absolutely open to it if you have an idea :)
-I thought so too at first but the 3 squirrels could do 2 damage, then goblin 2, squirrels 2 and so on. Squirrels win. He also cannot stall since he's already at lower life at this point.- Edit: Guess lower life total doesn't matter, it's still a tie. The more you know.
@@tripple-a6031 that's only if Goblin attacks back though. he could just block a squirrel and then sit back. It's a stalemate unless there's some rule I'm missing like "must attack" or something
@ 5:oo Tomer and his opponent actually entered a draw if they played it out, The red creature cant attack into 3 tokens, because he blocks with two and has a 1/1 that beats down. LIke wise if he doesnt attack, he stone walls tomers atack and just eats tokens. The game draws since both just dont attack for entirety basically, whoever attacks loses essentially
even more fun with tournaments and 4-card magic! thanks cardmarket magic! glad to see even more live in-person interactions with so many other magic players!
4 commons at a Pauper event is a pretty great idea! I wonder what other formats can be done with this. Maybe a complex one where 1 each has to be Standard/Pioneer/Modern/Legacy-legal, or Common/Uncommon/Rare/Mythic. But also, what if there are legal Un-cards ...
the final matchup is wild. 2 brilliant friends with the same list. in reality theres 4 possibilities of what happens 1. turn 1 forest play rootwalla. if opponent does the same thing, you win. you play second land, cast inquiry to get rid of their 2nd land, now its a 3/3 vs a 1/1 2. turn 1 forest play rootwalla. if opponent does mountain inquiry, its a tie. you both have a 1/1 rootwalla 3. turn1 mountain inquiry. opponent discards rootwalla 75%, its a tie. both stuck with a 1/1 4. turn 1 mountain inquiry. opponent doesn't discard rootwalla, 25%, you win. they can't play anything and you win for one
Given both players had all the information they needed to make a perfect decision, picking option 4 both rounds was really the only option. They knew turn 1 forest rootwalla just lets their opponent force a tie, so the only option left was to roll those dice. So fun to watch the whole tournament, and that 4 card deck was brilliant!
Commons that’s a nice twist. Give people time and they can break 4 card blind, there is a good reason the format with infinite planning time is 3 card blind not 4…. and look at that the 2 players who predicted the event shattered it because they and that’s why burning inquiry is usually banned in these kind of formats.
What is most interesting about the rootwalla deck to me is it is the only one from the finalists which had a losing matchup to the troll exhume deck going second. All of the others could either beat it, or stall it out enough to get a turn going first.
@@brysonsmith1523 Foil deck was also playing Rootwalla so it ties to the Inquiry deck's main game plan and kills their opposing Rootwalla in response to any attempt to pump with gut shot in the long game. Foil deck was favored against Inquiry funny enough but it was heavily unfavored against Goblins because it only disrupts 1 card of its opponent's not 3 of them.
Why wasn’t the Foil semifinal game covered? The graphic showed it going up against the burning inquiry deck and then I was so confused on how that ended in a tie
The foil/rootwalla deck is what my initial thought was, really in love with the goblin grenade deck and the burning inquiry deck those ideas are awesome
That's the kind of videos I love seeing here. Marketing stunts that are cool, fun and in tune with the community. I hope you did manage to take breaks, though.
Wait at 5:30 doesn't Tomer actually basically just tie, because he will have 3 1/1 so can't attack but if the opponent attacks 2 of his 1/1s will trade and he will win with one so neither can attack because then they would lose so it is just a stalemate?
Mountain, Akoum Hellhound, Adventuring Gear, and Gruul turf. Play the mountain and the Hellhound. Next turn throw out adventuring gear. Play the gruul turf to trigger landfall and bounce the gruul turf to it's own trigger. Adventuring gear is only there to speed up the game. Loses to the discard strats.
Tomer didn't lose his matchup, it is a perpetual draw. Whichever side attacks first loses, so both sides should keep passing back and forth. If the 2/2 attacks first, it gets blocked by two squirrels, trading off all creatures and leaving a single squirrel to win in 20 turns. If the squirrels attack first, one gets taken down by the 2/2 each turn until the 2/2 can swing in uncontested.
Before I watch my deck would have been: 2x Crack the Earth 1x Grim initiate 1x mountain Probably not a winner but I want to hedge against tron and also have answers to other strats or cut off mana if possible.
Oh wow. Burning inquiry with rootwalas looks near impossible to beat on the draw! But that deck also seems to lose hard on the draw vs troll animate dead. Regardles, a very well crafted deck an well earned win by those two!
0:55 foundations has to be the worst possible example because burst lightning is literally the best spell there, save for maybe tamiyo or if you really love black and hate red hero's downfall
Ok, before I watch the video, I'm thinking: Island, 2x force spike, slippery bogle. If those were hard to find, I would pivot to plains, 2x mana tithe, law-rune enforcer (?)
Dunno if nobody thought of what I did, but it would have probably gotten owned by the burning inquiry whenever you lost the die roll. That pump on the roof walls would have owned me, 2 lands in deck?! 😅
@@Tlonuqbar826 Indeed, but they seem to have censored all three of those words in parent comments, so I had to use my trusty thesaurus to make a comment that wouldn't get deleted
@@King-fo3kj Well, every comment that I or anyone from the server have tried to post with those words have been deleted and this is the first one that's stuck afaik
We do not delete comments 😅 three card blind is awesome :) I found out about it last time we made a four card video thanks to the comments and am grateful! It's a lovely community
wouldn't that lose on the draw to the decks that get down enough turn 1 creatures? specifically the deck that gets faced at 9:50 in the video is only a draw because the player can buff the lizard to freely block attackers.
I think I'm missing something about the Rootwalla combo. If you play a mountain then a Burning Inquiry, you only have 2 other cards so you discard your whole hand, meaning you don't have a forest to pump the Rootwalla. And if you go second in the mirror matchup, your opponent is always guaranteed to discard at least one of your two lands. So at no point do you have 2 mana to pump the Rootwalla... Why even run 2 lands in the first place? Wouldn't it make more sense to run one land, one burning inquiry, and 2 Rootwallas? At no point is it possible to play the second land, so what am I missing?
If you go second in a non mirror matchup, you can avoid playing inquiry until you have two lands out, which forces a draw against goblins because they can't attack well. Then you go to game 2 going first, which should win you the match
If you go first, an go Mountain Into Burning Inquiry, you get a free (madness) Rootwalla, while your oponent looses 75% of their hand, at that point your oponent is unlikely to play any creatures so you do not need to pump the rootwalla to win If you Go second you play both of the lands first then you play the burning inquiry and the free rootwalla hoping a 3/3 is good enought to stop their plan.
Sooo... Even though you don't lose if you draw from empty is there still a draw step or a library? For example, let say I brainstorm, do the cards end up in a library and, if they do, do I ever get to see them again?
In the traditional rules for this format, you still have a library and do draw if anything ends up there, it’s just the rule that makes you lose when you try to draw from an empty library that’s removed.
You can indeed draw cards put into your library, so brainstorming to put a miracle card there works :) but generally it's not a great idea because it just temporarily removes cards from your hand
the forest was required for the game at 9:50 to defend on the draw against a deck with multiple turn 1 creatures so that rootwalla could then win on the play.
The opponent will never attack into 2 untapped goblins so he can never double block. If Tomer attacks, the opponent takes two damage and he loses a goblin. The opponent would then hold back again, if he attacks again he loses the second goblin and now its 17 life with a 2/2 vs 20 life with a 1/1. Obviously Tomer loses here. If Tomer doesn't attack, the opponent also doesn't attack, this repeats forever drawing the game. The first player to attack loses so neither player ever attacks.
@@cpthavoc5571 Right. So, as you say, Toker should not have lost as an unavoidable conclusion, which he states in the video. He should have drawn at worst, not lost. My own point was his own theoretical 'out' that could justify a draw; not saying he could have won. The point is he thought he'd outright lost, which isn't true.
Carl, very important question! In your version of these four card formats, would someone draw a card for turn if you were to put something they played on top of their library (e.g. Subtlety in Modern)? Or do players just not draw for turn at all?
The only thing he said to that is that you dont lose to decking, so I would assume all other normal magic rules are in play, your library exists just empty and your draw happens but doesnt kill you.
You would draw indeed :) there was a fun deck in this tournament with 2 lands, lembas and cauldron familiar that just endlessly drew lembas. You could also be really sneaky and put a miracle card on top of your library with Brainstorm 🤠
How do they pump rootwalla if they have to discard the forest? The cost for ability is 1G, after playing the mountain and inqury, they have to discard forest and rootwalla, so how do they produce the second mana?
I wonder how things would pan out with the following rules tweaking Build a 5 Card pauper deck each player draws 4 cards at the start starting player exiles the last card in their library (or simply doesnt draw it for turn or smt) second player gets to draw their fifth card everything else the same
The opponent will never attack into 2 untapped goblins so he can never double block. If Tomer attacks, the opponent takes two damage and he loses a goblin. The opponent would then hold back again, if he attacks again he loses the second goblin and now its 17 life with a 2/2 vs 20 life with a 1/1. Obviously Tomer loses here. If Tomer doesn't attack, the opponent also doesn't attack, this repeats forever drawing the game. The first player to attack loses so neither player ever attacks.
The lizard would have won against the three goblins, goblins attack and he blocks, now he has higher damage and will eventually surpass them in damage, if they just attack with the lizard, he would have damage priority making them win due to doing the same damage quicker. Blocking with goblin would just result in loss.
Did they plan to tie at the end? Whoever goes first should just play mountain go knowing the other player can't Burning inquiry because it will result in a tie then on their next turn forest inquiry so their rootwalla can be pumped but opponents can't.
heh, in the comments to the last video (which was modern, not pauper) i suggested mountain, burning inquiry, 2x blazing rootwalla. i was pretty close! wonder if they read my comment or came up with it separately ^^
Burning inquiry was the idea I had after the first one! So happy to see it in action. Edit: I posted when I saw the deck. Finishing the video now and learning it's in the finals!
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@matteorossi1172 more cards often ends up being less interesting because decks become more homogenous. The most common number to do something like this is 3
It would be cool if you gave a shout-out to the 3 card blind format, which is a similar format with an existing online community. I watched your first 4 card tournament and wanted to find something similar that I could participate in, and since then I have found 3 card blind. I would have appreciated something to give me more information about how I could do something silimar, so I think it would be nice if you gave future viewers that opportunity.
The strongest tool in a Magic player's toolkit is communication with other players and bouncing ideas off of each other. Not spoiling the end, but I think the result is a fine example of how having a great idea and sharpening it against your friends is the best way to build decks in Magic.
Especially if your friends have names like "Budde", "Finkel", "Wiegersma", "Jensen", and "Duke". xD
Would’ve liked to see how the Foil deck could’ve possibly tied.
The red deck has 3 threats, so even though Foil can stop 1 of them, Rootwalla + Gut Shot ties or loses to the other two (block and shoot two goblin tokens or trade with the 2/2 goblin)
The only thing i could think of is when the foil deck needed to start. Then decided to pass but because the opponent smelled shenanigans they also passed and they tied in infinte passing? otherwise i cant see that deck loose no matter the outcome.
Edit. from what ive read in the comments, the two deck with 2 goblins where its demise both goblins are 1/2 and the burn spell cant kill the second goblin on its own.
@TheKilaby yeah the version with 2 goblins and bolts just always wins and the version with grenade instead of bolt always ties
Right now I can't really see how it could hope to even tie against the opponent. Three goblin tokens alone win against it, so Kuldotha is a must-counter, but the other two should win against Rootwalla + Gut Shot in every line.
Either way, the Foil deck is by far the coolest in my opinion!
@@simon_herts the tokens aren't allowed to git the board
This is the kind of content I love this channel for. Funky, innovative, fun and unconventional.
"What are you doing to counter that meta game?"
"We are going to copy that plan."
🤣
I love the fact that those two guys came into the tournament with decks already prepared confident they were going to win, and they did it. They won. They did indeed crack the meta
The Foil and Burning Inquiry decks were on a higher level than the rest.
The desert brute deck has a chance to clobber the inquiry build and the goblins. If it wasn't for the troll meta, they'd've probably won it all.
Another great video on a single digit card format! I know my channel and community is a tiny fraction of the size of yours, but I would love to talk to you a little about our community if you are interested in exploring this niche within Magic a little further.
Big ups for this guy
THE GOAT HIMSELF HAS ARRIVED
Like this so cardmarket can see it!
Hey! It's you! I discovered your channel from the comments section on our last 4-card video and did a bit of a deep dive. Your community is wonderful :D What you're doing is so cool! I don't know how a collaboration would work exactly but I'd be absolutely open to it if you have an idea :)
@@CardmarketMagic hype
5:20 Neither one of them can beat their opponent. If someone is forced to attack, they lose, so they would never attack and draw.
exactly my thoughts
-I thought so too at first but the 3 squirrels could do 2 damage, then goblin 2, squirrels 2 and so on. Squirrels win. He also cannot stall since he's already at lower life at this point.-
Edit: Guess lower life total doesn't matter, it's still a tie. The more you know.
@@tripple-a6031 that's only if Goblin attacks back though. he could just block a squirrel and then sit back. It's a stalemate unless there's some rule I'm missing like "must attack" or something
Yep the player that makes a move loses threfore none do and its a tie they should have scooped an played another
As a huge fan of three card blind, I’d love to see this four card pauper format played more!
Ah Tomer, the internet's inter-national treasure
But why did he surrender at 5:20 ?
Wasn't that a clear draw? Or did he lose because he was lower on life?
@@reyny2118 I suppose it's because it will be a stalemate (neither will attack) and he had a lower life total.
He simply chose to concede instead of draw, that way his opponent makes it into the next round :)
@ 5:oo Tomer and his opponent actually entered a draw if they played it out,
The red creature cant attack into 3 tokens, because he blocks with two and has a 1/1 that beats down.
LIke wise if he doesnt attack, he stone walls tomers atack and just eats tokens.
The game draws since both just dont attack for entirety basically, whoever attacks loses essentially
Noooo! Tomer you win or draw that match in all cases! Someone needs more Pai Gow reps
I think it's only draw. If the discard was random, he'd have a chance. But the opponent will always keep a 2/2.
@@TuberTugger You are correct. I think "all cases" includes Opp choosing to attack.
even more fun with tournaments and 4-card magic! thanks cardmarket magic! glad to see even more live in-person interactions with so many other magic players!
It was super fun! I'm happy you enjoyed it :)
4 commons at a Pauper event is a pretty great idea! I wonder what other formats can be done with this. Maybe a complex one where 1 each has to be Standard/Pioneer/Modern/Legacy-legal, or Common/Uncommon/Rare/Mythic. But also, what if there are legal Un-cards ...
the final matchup is wild. 2 brilliant friends with the same list. in reality theres 4 possibilities of what happens
1. turn 1 forest play rootwalla. if opponent does the same thing, you win. you play second land, cast inquiry to get rid of their 2nd land, now its a 3/3 vs a 1/1
2. turn 1 forest play rootwalla. if opponent does mountain inquiry, its a tie. you both have a 1/1 rootwalla
3. turn1 mountain inquiry. opponent discards rootwalla 75%, its a tie. both stuck with a 1/1
4. turn 1 mountain inquiry. opponent doesn't discard rootwalla, 25%, you win. they can't play anything and you win for one
Given both players had all the information they needed to make a perfect decision, picking option 4 both rounds was really the only option. They knew turn 1 forest rootwalla just lets their opponent force a tie, so the only option left was to roll those dice.
So fun to watch the whole tournament, and that 4 card deck was brilliant!
So mountain inquiry is the only shot at winning if you assume your opponent will play correctly
Carl must have channeled his inner Jamin to come up with that many puns for the narration! I loved it
I did 🥸 Jamin taught me the way of the pun, I am no Jamin and still a student but trying my best
Commons that’s a nice twist. Give people time and they can break 4 card blind, there is a good reason the format with infinite planning time is 3 card blind not 4….
and look at that the 2 players who predicted the event shattered it because they and that’s why burning inquiry is usually banned in these kind of formats.
And There is a reason 3 card blind has a huge banlist ;)
I love this take on 3 card blind!
A 2/2 versus 3 1/1s is a stalemate
It was a real pleasure having you around guys! ♥
What is most interesting about the rootwalla deck to me is it is the only one from the finalists which had a losing matchup to the troll exhume deck going second. All of the others could either beat it, or stall it out enough to get a turn going first.
How did the counter spell deck lose?
I guess aggro goblin does turn 1 goblin, gets countered, turn 2 goblin and it's game because goblin has 2HP
@mizoudelavega6441 oh I thought it had 1 toughness for some reason
I think it loses to the red kuldotha decks that the other list can beat by pumping +2/+2
@@brysonsmith1523 Foil deck was also playing Rootwalla so it ties to the Inquiry deck's main game plan and kills their opposing Rootwalla in response to any attempt to pump with gut shot in the long game. Foil deck was favored against Inquiry funny enough but it was heavily unfavored against Goblins because it only disrupts 1 card of its opponent's not 3 of them.
I think it tied and so didn’t make the finals since there were two people who won their match
I love when Carl starts talking about magic like a science professor 😅
Why wasn’t the Foil semifinal game covered? The graphic showed it going up against the burning inquiry deck and then I was so confused on how that ended in a tie
None of the people with the cameras watched it, but I still wanted to talk about it in the video because it was so cool :)
The foil/rootwalla deck is what my initial thought was, really in love with the goblin grenade deck and the burning inquiry deck those ideas are awesome
That's the kind of videos I love seeing here.
Marketing stunts that are cool, fun and in tune with the community.
I hope you did manage to take breaks, though.
You should look up mtg 3 card blind, it is very similar to this
I discovered it from the comments of the last video we did like this, it's a great community :) I definitely recommend 👌
Wait at 5:30 doesn't Tomer actually basically just tie, because he will have 3 1/1 so can't attack but if the opponent attacks 2 of his 1/1s will trade and he will win with one so neither can attack because then they would lose so it is just a stalemate?
Yeah thought so too. Idk.
Mountain, Akoum Hellhound, Adventuring Gear, and Gruul turf. Play the mountain and the Hellhound. Next turn throw out adventuring gear. Play the gruul turf to trigger landfall and bounce the gruul turf to it's own trigger. Adventuring gear is only there to speed up the game. Loses to the discard strats.
It would be cool to see 1 card sideboard! since a normal sideboard in 60 card is 1/4 of a deck, having 1 card be a sideboard is perfect!!
Scuffed 3 card blind my beloved
Tomer didn't lose his matchup, it is a perpetual draw. Whichever side attacks first loses, so both sides should keep passing back and forth.
If the 2/2 attacks first, it gets blocked by two squirrels, trading off all creatures and leaving a single squirrel to win in 20 turns.
If the squirrels attack first, one gets taken down by the 2/2 each turn until the 2/2 can swing in uncontested.
aww, I wanted to see the foil deck win
fans of this format should check out Three Card Blind!
Having the shortest guy in the room run the video camera is a good meme 😂
How does Tomer lose there? A 2/2 vs 3 1/1s is a draw as whichever player attacks first loses.
Before I watch my deck would have been:
2x Crack the Earth
1x Grim initiate
1x mountain
Probably not a winner but I want to hedge against tron and also have answers to other strats or cut off mana if possible.
Oh wow. Burning inquiry with rootwalas looks near impossible to beat on the draw! But that deck also seems to lose hard on the draw vs troll animate dead.
Regardles, a very well crafted deck an well earned win by those two!
0:55 foundations has to be the worst possible example because burst lightning is literally the best spell there, save for maybe tamiyo or if you really love black and hate red hero's downfall
Ok, before I watch the video, I'm thinking: Island, 2x force spike, slippery bogle.
If those were hard to find, I would pivot to plains, 2x mana tithe, law-rune enforcer (?)
Dunno if nobody thought of what I did, but it would have probably gotten owned by the burning inquiry whenever you lost the die roll. That pump on the roof walls would have owned me, 2 lands in deck?! 😅
Out a mana tithe, in an impeccable timing?
There's a channel that does this with one fewer card and non-Pauper! It's pretty cool!
3 card blind it's called, awesome channel
@@Tlonuqbar826 Indeed, but they seem to have censored all three of those words in parent comments, so I had to use my trusty thesaurus to make a comment that wouldn't get deleted
@@sorin_markovthey have not, unsure what you're on about
@@King-fo3kj Well, every comment that I or anyone from the server have tried to post with those words have been deleted and this is the first one that's stuck afaik
We do not delete comments 😅 three card blind is awesome :) I found out about it last time we made a four card video thanks to the comments and am grateful! It's a lovely community
I feel like 1 Desert Pinger (G/B) 2 innocent blood, and 1 basking rootwalla would do really good
Certainly innovative! I dont think I could beat it, though personally I feel like I would run 2x of the madness guy and 1 mountain. Tech into mirror!
wouldn't that lose on the draw to the decks that get down enough turn 1 creatures? specifically the deck that gets faced at 9:50 in the video is only a draw because the player can buff the lizard to freely block attackers.
I think I'm missing something about the Rootwalla combo. If you play a mountain then a Burning Inquiry, you only have 2 other cards so you discard your whole hand, meaning you don't have a forest to pump the Rootwalla. And if you go second in the mirror matchup, your opponent is always guaranteed to discard at least one of your two lands. So at no point do you have 2 mana to pump the Rootwalla... Why even run 2 lands in the first place? Wouldn't it make more sense to run one land, one burning inquiry, and 2 Rootwallas? At no point is it possible to play the second land, so what am I missing?
If you go second in a non mirror matchup, you can avoid playing inquiry until you have two lands out, which forces a draw against goblins because they can't attack well. Then you go to game 2 going first, which should win you the match
Maybe if you go second and your opponent dumps their entire hand on turn 1, you go with two lands instead? Im not sure either.
If you go first, an go Mountain Into Burning Inquiry, you get a free (madness) Rootwalla, while your oponent looses 75% of their hand, at that point your oponent is unlikely to play any creatures so you do not need to pump the rootwalla to win
If you Go second you play both of the lands first then you play the burning inquiry and the free rootwalla hoping a 3/3 is good enought to stop their plan.
Sooo... Even though you don't lose if you draw from empty is there still a draw step or a library? For example, let say I brainstorm, do the cards end up in a library and, if they do, do I ever get to see them again?
In the traditional rules for this format, you still have a library and do draw if anything ends up there, it’s just the rule that makes you lose when you try to draw from an empty library that’s removed.
You can indeed draw cards put into your library, so brainstorming to put a miracle card there works :) but generally it's not a great idea because it just temporarily removes cards from your hand
I think gut shot, gut shot, basking rootwalla and a forest beats the inquiry deck
Four for the win! At least in Magic a bit of madness helps a lot.
Love these goofy challenges! Though I think they probably should have had 2 rootwallas or a free spell instead of the forest.
the forest was required for the game at 9:50 to defend on the draw against a deck with multiple turn 1 creatures so that rootwalla could then win on the play.
these kids were way too hype!!!
I hope there is more paupergeddon content coming 🙏
There is!
This is my new favourite format.
There's a similar format you can play online called 3 Card Blind, same idea but not pauper and you only use 3 cards c:
tomer can double block killing the gobbo
Right? Use up two of the 1/1s to block with, leaving one 1/1 left to attack and kill the opponent...
Seems like a draw no matter which player goes first cause neither want to attack
The opponent will never attack into 2 untapped goblins so he can never double block.
If Tomer attacks, the opponent takes two damage and he loses a goblin. The opponent would then hold back again, if he attacks again he loses the second goblin and now its 17 life with a 2/2 vs 20 life with a 1/1. Obviously Tomer loses here.
If Tomer doesn't attack, the opponent also doesn't attack, this repeats forever drawing the game.
The first player to attack loses so neither player ever attacks.
@cpthavoc5571 which is a better outcome then losing
@@cpthavoc5571 Right. So, as you say, Toker should not have lost as an unavoidable conclusion, which he states in the video. He should have drawn at worst, not lost. My own point was his own theoretical 'out' that could justify a draw; not saying he could have won. The point is he thought he'd outright lost, which isn't true.
Nice line at the end 😊
Oh my god yes. This was so fun last time.
Artifact land + lotus petal can cast refurbished familiar
Troll player could have gone further if he had used Generous Ent or Imposing Vantasaur instead, eh, I was rooting for you)
Carl, very important question! In your version of these four card formats, would someone draw a card for turn if you were to put something they played on top of their library (e.g. Subtlety in Modern)? Or do players just not draw for turn at all?
The only thing he said to that is that you dont lose to decking, so I would assume all other normal magic rules are in play, your library exists just empty and your draw happens but doesnt kill you.
You would draw indeed :) there was a fun deck in this tournament with 2 lands, lembas and cauldron familiar that just endlessly drew lembas. You could also be really sneaky and put a miracle card on top of your library with Brainstorm 🤠
No one with a foil foil??
I was just thinking about this video!
How do they pump rootwalla if they have to discard the forest?
The cost for ability is 1G, after playing the mountain and inqury, they have to discard forest and rootwalla, so how do they produce the second mana?
How did the ties resolve into the mirror? That foil deck would win I thought?
I think the Foil deck would have to be the best one here, since I don't think it's possible to lose, only to tie at worst.
Land + 3 Savana lions (or other 2 power creature)
I wonder how things would pan out with the following rules tweaking
Build a 5 Card pauper deck
each player draws 4 cards at the start
starting player exiles the last card in their library (or simply doesnt draw it for turn or smt)
second player gets to draw their fifth card
everything else the same
Couldn't the three squirrels block the goblin to kill it and you have a remaining squirrel? Well, I guess it would be a tie
Need a 1 card sideboard if they tie 😂
How did Tomer lose? He could have either won the damage race or double blocked and had a 1/1 up with an opponent who has no cards in hand…
Neither player ever attacks. He cant win.
Brain finally caught up you’re right
The opponent will never attack into 2 untapped goblins so he can never double block.
If Tomer attacks, the opponent takes two damage and he loses a goblin. The opponent would then hold back again, if he attacks again he loses the second goblin and now its 17 life with a 2/2 vs 20 life with a 1/1. Obviously Tomer loses here.
If Tomer doesn't attack, the opponent also doesn't attack, this repeats forever drawing the game.
The first player to attack loses so neither player ever attacks.
The lizard would have won against the three goblins, goblins attack and he blocks, now he has higher damage and will eventually surpass them in damage, if they just attack with the lizard, he would have damage priority making them win due to doing the same damage quicker. Blocking with goblin would just result in loss.
1:21 not on turn 2 it won't be
Did they plan to tie at the end? Whoever goes first should just play mountain go knowing the other player can't Burning inquiry because it will result in a tie then on their next turn forest inquiry so their rootwalla can be pumped but opponents can't.
Your assuming they wont just play for the draw. If you put your opponent in a position of "draw now or lose next turn" they'll always draw now.
I would love to do this but my lack of deck buidling skill limits me so greatly well i guess just all lightning bolt would work
My deck idea is Dark Ritual, Troll of Khazad-Dum, Exhume, and a Swamp. Just putting this up before I watch the video.
You would have done pretty well :) given how well the troll players did here
I love this channel so much
heh, in the comments to the last video (which was modern, not pauper) i suggested mountain, burning inquiry, 2x blazing rootwalla. i was pretty close! wonder if they read my comment or came up with it separately ^^
It would be really cool if you influenced the two winners of this tournament!
Why would you build refurbished familiar if theres no way to cast it turn 1?
That was genius
A youtube channel that understands the difference between literally and figuratively ! ! THANK YOU
The shared playmat makes this format extra cute
Ok someone warn me when someone Nashes this format.
1:44 É O GIGANTE FLAMENGO ALI? ELE MESMO?
Dang, Carl has a nice jacket.
Thank you :)
3:18 FLAMENGO
Wait, i missed what happened to foil
such a fun idea!
All creatures are just squirrels in trench coats
Forest, Thallid, Thallid, Thallid
Tomer could double block and ping to win?
Fantastic video
fast furious and fun...
same for mutagenic growth
The writing on this episode was so good, I'm really glad you chose to slow things down: the effort really shows with episodes like this, ❤
That is very kind of you to say :)
Tommy match was a draw or I miss something?
which matchup was that?
It would have been but Tomer just chose to concede :)
swamp, troll, dark ritual, exume
edit:annnnd i was right:)
exhume is uncommon!
It was, in fact, printed at common in urza's Saga :) you can trust pauper players to know what a common is
Thanks
Couldn't tomer just have double blocked?
These are so good
Oh baby here we go
I wonder what three card blind players would cook for this format
Burning inquiry was the idea I had after the first one! So happy to see it in action.
Edit: I posted when I saw the deck. Finishing the video now and learning it's in the finals!
exhume is an uncommon
It was originally printed as common :) you can trust pauper players to know which cards are commons