Thanks heaps, your BB shell is a gorgeous syperlight piece of kit that installed into my Factor O2 like a dream. Both faces of the BB hole were dead square and the holes were perfectly round which helped, but this idea of yours kills independent cups for sure!!! A+
Are you running rim or disc brakes? If Disc, any issues with the rear caliper hydraulic cable? Enough clearance for the hose? Aiming to do the same for my Factor O2.
I am on rim so can't be 100% but there plenty of space through there. Hambini will know the answer, if you email him from support/contact where you order on the website, he is really awesome and answeres all questions.
Why the BB30 exists in theory has an understandable foundation. But, the precision needed to make it delivery improved performance is not cheap. I have had bikes come out of the manufactures box, with the bb in place and it creaked in the work stand. I always said there is a lack of precision bit thanks to you I can give customers a detailed explanation.
Suggestion for Mummy & Daddy's garage: Buy or make a couple of large neutral (gray, white, or?) colored screens to put behind things in your shots. It would make things much clearer rather than having the cluttered background of ladders, gardening tools, etc. Keep up the great work!
Just discovered this channel. Very informative. Ride is 2013 Lefty 29er with Sram. My BB consists of 2 bearings. That is all. Have replaced them once. Used white lithium grease everywhere. Silent operation. What is the downside to this setup?
More recent videos mention Loctite activator to use prior to the 641 Retaining Compound. Is that necessary and if so, is there a particular version? Loctite seems to have many
Nice BB solution. A few practical comments regarding installation (from an average home-bike-mechanic) 1. Shouldn't you loosen the pre-load cap slightly to reduce lateral stress (or is it angular bearings) 2. Would a bit of grease under the plastic cap make it more waterproof? 3. It sounds like the installation put a lot of stress on the side of the frame, shouldn't you cover the non-drive side to avoid marks?
Hambini I have just purchased the Hambini Racing PF30A Bottom Bracket Shimano Crankset from you to convert my Supersix Evo from Si crank to a Shimano using your bottom bracket. After ordering both a new Shimano crank set and your Bottom bracket I have removed the Cannondale Si crank but noticed there are cable guide bolts that stick up from bottom of Frome into shell cavity of bottom bracket. Am I correct in thinking the new Hambini bottom bracket will not fit because of those bolts protruding into the shell?
Hambini hi, I noticed that you did not use any type of grease on the drive side when installing the crankset. Any reason for that? Actually, I am using teflon grease on both sides of the crankset on my bike. Thanks
Outstanding presentation Hambini! Learning a ton! Quick tech assist: do your sell BBs that will fit a 2020 Ibis Ripmo V2 mtb? The BB on this carbon frame states “threaded (73mm BSA). In the process of building a custom enduro rig with this Ibis Ripmo V2 frame and would love to integrate one of your aerospace engineered BBs. Thanks!
Hi Hambini! Is this a BB30 crank into a PF30 bottom bracket frame? Is this totally different than a GXP crank? Because my frame has a PF30 bottom bracket, but I can’t figure out what type my SRAM RED crank has… GXP or BB30? Please help.
Great work on BB30 creak analysis and remedy. I have been trying to eliminate creak on my Specialized Tarmac and Venge for nearly a year now. Currently using the newer Praxis design BB for BB30 to Hollowtech (Praxis changed the expanding shell design for expanding elastomer collet), also adding retaining compound, and it works for a couple of months. I want to try your one piece BB but Specialized have bonded an aluminium shell inside, (OSBB to BB30) , so is it ok to pressfit your BB into Aluminium shell and would it eliminate creak? With or without retaining compound. Thanks for great videos on a subject that I have been wrestling with for a long time now. :) Also the removal tools are definitely a better way to remove pressfit BBs.
I'm new to all of this, but why Loctite 641 over 609? I read the 609 has more "shear strength" whereas the 641 can seal a bigger gap, although surely the gap is minuscule in most cases?
l was wondering if you make a bottom bracket for my sram red bb30 crank set to enable it to fit and work in my brand new chapter 2 bike frame with has a 86 mm bb shell??? cheers.
Question from someone new to bike maintenance but had to get up to speed after buying a bike with a BB30. I have been re greasing the bearing every 1000 miles or so and would like a more permanent solution . If I install a Hambini Bottom Bracket will my crankset/chainset still fit or will the axle be too short. What size crankset/chainset will I need? Confused....
Hi Joe, It depends on what crankset you have. There are two basic dimensions to the crankset - the diameter and the axle length. Early BB30 cranksets had a 30mm diameter and 68mm spindle. Now they come in 30mm diameter and 90mm length. If you have an early one, you are essentially stuffed - you would have to change the crankset to get anything more permanent. If you have a more modern one, then there are a number of options to try. Hope that helps Hambini
Hello Hambini, Having watched you on GCN, im getting through your content like a tramp with a bag of chips :p I'm understanding everything so far, just why not high strength Loctite? What does it do that 641 does not? Many Thanks, mark
Can you tell me when the one piece BB30 to Shimano bottom bracket will be back in stock. I tried to register an account on your website in order to get an email alert when it’s back in stock but it won’t let me register. Thanks
I just installed my bb to observe that the bearing on the drive side spinned with difficulty. Bearing on the non-drive side is ok. Is it serious & do you have an idea what may cause this ? I was thinking maybe I pushed the BB too far toward the non-drive side.. Tks in advance
I know my response is two years after date, and would like to say that I'm weary of Press Fits, concerning Bottom Brackets in contrast to Threaded Ones, simply for the Ease of Adjustments. However, threaded BB's now a days are considered Old School, which I feel still work better in terms of Installation (no press tools needed) and can Last a Long Time.Press fits have to maintain a very close tolerances between the Frame BB Shell, in relation to the BB Component being Installed, and those tolerances are hard to maintain. Any Glues being used between two High Stress Surfaces will act as a soft cushion eventually giving way and breaking down from vibratory, impact, and cranking forces, in which threaded BB units do not have that flaw in the design!I know Press Fits are being installed on Carbon Fiber Units, however, I think Carbon Fiber BB Shells can be designed differently, in eliminating Loosening, and using Glues of any kind? But that's only my opinion! The Mavic 610 BB Design comes to mind!
It still seems to me that there is an extremely strong connection between the outer bearing race and the frame, but almost no attempt to connect the inner race to the crank; the crank just sort of lays on the inner races. Why doesn't the crank just spin on its axis independently of the bearings, in which case the ball bearings would be completely irrelevant?
The spindle will sometimes spin inside the inner race, you will see signs upon removal. Quality bearings and finely toleranced manufacturing of the cranks and spindle will reduce the incidence of galling on the spindle.
When bearing maintenance or replacement is needed on the Hambini PF30 BB do you have to remove the whole BB or is it fairly easy to remove the bearings only? Is there a maintenance video to view or an instructional pdf file to download?
Bearings can be replaced in situ, you don't need to remove the bottom bracket. This video shows you how for PF30/BBright and plain BB30 without an adaptor ua-cam.com/video/zD0q_0TsHa0/v-deo.html
I hope you will still interact on older videos. My understanding is the entire BB - crank assembly have no mechanical stopper on the non-driveside of the frame, am I correct? So I'm assuming what keep it sliding off the drive-side is the retaining compound and friction.
Thinking about getting a caad12 but I've always rejected BB30 and pressfit nonsense. Is this the ultimate solution to creaks? I trust Hambini but I'd love to hear from other users
u didn't faced it, why ? see the paint on the drive side...…...it need to be faced dude. greetz from a 1st clas dutch mechanic ;) but apart from that u freaking rock !!! big fan!
BB arrived today 🎉 quick turnaround thank you 🙏 now at the bike shop praying the shell is alined
Thanks heaps, your BB shell is a gorgeous syperlight piece of kit that installed into my Factor O2 like a dream. Both faces of the BB hole were dead square and the holes were perfectly round which helped, but this idea of yours kills independent cups for sure!!! A+
Are you running rim or disc brakes? If Disc, any issues with the rear caliper hydraulic cable? Enough clearance for the hose? Aiming to do the same for my Factor O2.
I am on rim so can't be 100% but there plenty of space through there. Hambini will know the answer, if you email him from support/contact where you order on the website, he is really awesome and answeres all questions.
Wish I’d seen your video before buying a BBinfinite one piece bottom bracket, if I need another BB I’ll be using you.
Funny, im here cuz my 1 yr old BB infinite crapped out yday, which is why I’m here…
Why the BB30 exists in theory has an understandable foundation. But, the precision needed to make it delivery improved performance is not cheap. I have had bikes come out of the manufactures box, with the bb in place and it creaked in the work stand. I always said there is a lack of precision bit thanks to you I can give customers a detailed explanation.
And then not sell them a bike?
Hi Sir, can I know why you didn't use the Loctite 7471 activator for this installation since the S5 is a carbon frame?
The pin locates in a hole on the crank which ensures you've got it all the way through the bike!
Suggestion for Mummy & Daddy's garage: Buy or make a couple of large neutral (gray, white, or?) colored screens to put behind things in your shots. It would make things much clearer rather than having the cluttered background of ladders, gardening tools, etc. Keep up the great work!
It's a proper man shed!
stay focus on the product not the room justmy2c
NOTICE HE DOES NOT USE GREASE OR CARBON PASTE. Many of the problems with press fit BB come from use of grease or paste when installing.
But what about on the spindle? Metal on metal, seems like grease would be helpful there.
Excellent tutorial, thank you.
You're definitely the MAN
I live in the USA and while ordering a BB I discovered that there are 40 dollars of VAT in the price!!!
Just discovered this channel. Very informative. Ride is 2013 Lefty 29er with Sram. My BB consists of 2 bearings. That is all. Have replaced them once. Used white lithium grease everywhere. Silent operation. What is the downside to this setup?
More recent videos mention Loctite activator to use prior to the 641 Retaining Compound. Is that necessary and if so, is there a particular version? Loctite seems to have many
Nice BB solution. A few practical comments regarding installation (from an average home-bike-mechanic)
1. Shouldn't you loosen the pre-load cap slightly to reduce lateral stress (or is it angular bearings)
2. Would a bit of grease under the plastic cap make it more waterproof?
3. It sounds like the installation put a lot of stress on the side of the frame, shouldn't you cover the non-drive side to avoid marks?
Hi Hambini, have you thought about making your bearing press available for purchase? I know I would be interested in one. Cheers John
Read the MSD sheet on the goops you use , then feel better about wearing gloves
Any thoughts on using grease on the outside of Derlin Top Hats? or not requrired?
Hambini
I have just purchased the Hambini Racing PF30A Bottom Bracket Shimano Crankset from you to convert my Supersix Evo from Si crank to a Shimano using your bottom bracket.
After ordering both a new Shimano crank set and your Bottom bracket I have removed the Cannondale Si crank but noticed there are cable guide bolts that stick up from bottom of Frome into shell cavity of bottom bracket.
Am I correct in thinking the new Hambini bottom bracket will not fit because of those bolts protruding into the shell?
The empty groove for the old circlip (CAAD12 bearing retainer) isn’t a problem?
I like the big ben on your wrist, good video
when will you restock the hambini bb30 bbs? it's been out of stock for months now!
They get restocked every Sunday. They usually sell out by lunchtime.
@@Hambini that's when you know you got good business
@@ashtonaimes2299 REALLY good business
Hambini hi, I noticed that you did not use any type of grease on the drive side when installing the crankset. Any reason for that? Actually, I am using teflon grease on both sides of the crankset on my bike. Thanks
I suspect the inner race and axel become one when they're pretensioned. The axel doesn't spin on the inner race. So no lube required. ICBW.
here's a question; is it at all possible to convert threaded BB to thread-through BB?
Hambini can I fit a 105 r7000 crankset to a FSA PF86 bottom bracket I can't find an answer anywhere.
Great video
Hi i have 2014 cervelo r3. Question im using magene crank 24mm. Im confused which one should be on the drive side. Is it the one with the offset? Tia
Outstanding presentation Hambini! Learning a ton! Quick tech assist: do your sell BBs that will fit a 2020 Ibis Ripmo V2 mtb? The BB on this carbon frame states “threaded (73mm BSA).
In the process of building a custom enduro rig with this Ibis Ripmo V2 frame and would love to integrate one of your aerospace engineered BBs.
Thanks!
Very cool! My question, when did Spock's hairdo come into fashion? 😀👍
Great job!
Thankyou
Will this work with a Cannondale CaadX 2015 model? I've gone through 3 bottom brackets now (came with the group set) and it still creaks!
Should work if you’re using Shimano components. Calendar an email to Hambini at his website.
Hi Hambini! Is this a BB30 crank into a PF30 bottom bracket frame? Is this totally different than a GXP crank? Because my frame has a PF30 bottom bracket, but I can’t figure out what type my SRAM RED crank has… GXP or BB30? Please help.
I have a 2021 BMC TEAM MACHINE SLR FOUR, which bottom bracket do I need???
Use a primer before retaining compound?
Great work on BB30 creak analysis and remedy. I have been trying to eliminate creak on my Specialized Tarmac and Venge for nearly a year now. Currently using the newer Praxis design BB for BB30 to Hollowtech (Praxis changed the expanding shell design for expanding elastomer collet), also adding retaining compound, and it works for a couple of months. I want to try your one piece BB but Specialized have bonded an aluminium shell inside, (OSBB to BB30) , so is it ok to pressfit your BB into Aluminium shell and would it eliminate creak? With or without retaining compound. Thanks for great videos on a subject that I have been wrestling with for a long time now. :) Also the removal tools are definitely a better way to remove pressfit BBs.
So if you install your BB is it possible to replace the bearings at a worn stage without removing the whole shell?
The answer is yes
I'm new to all of this, but why Loctite 641 over 609? I read the 609 has more "shear strength" whereas the 641 can seal a bigger gap, although surely the gap is minuscule in most cases?
Sorry, only just picked this up. In this application, the real difference is probably minimal, it's just for belt and braces
l was wondering if you make a bottom bracket for my sram red bb30 crank set to enable it to fit and work in my brand new chapter 2 bike frame with has a 86 mm bb shell??? cheers.
Question from someone new to bike maintenance but had to get up to speed after buying a bike with a BB30. I have been re greasing the bearing every 1000 miles or so and would like a more permanent solution . If I install a Hambini Bottom Bracket will my crankset/chainset still fit or will the axle be too short. What size crankset/chainset will I need? Confused....
Hi Joe, It depends on what crankset you have. There are two basic dimensions to the crankset - the diameter and the axle length. Early BB30 cranksets had a 30mm diameter and 68mm spindle. Now they come in 30mm diameter and 90mm length. If you have an early one, you are essentially stuffed - you would have to change the crankset to get anything more permanent. If you have a more modern one, then there are a number of options to try. Hope that helps Hambini
Hello Hambini, Having watched you on GCN, im getting through your content like a tramp with a bag of chips :p I'm understanding everything so far, just why not high strength Loctite? What does it do that 641 does not? Many Thanks, mark
Hello mark, high strength is designed as a permanent fix and is not suited for disassembly.
Can you tell me when the one piece BB30 to Shimano bottom bracket will be back in stock. I tried to register an account on your website in order to get an email alert when it’s back in stock but it won’t let me register. Thanks
what's with the guantanamo jumpsuit ? is this a BB30 Jihad?
good for the YT engagement stats
Hambini, do you have one of these adapters for the bb30 that would allow me to keep using my old SiSl2 crank-set from cannondale?
Hi, If you've got a BB30 frame then I'm afraid not. There isn't enough space to get the bearings in and maintain stiffness. Hambini
I just installed my bb to observe that the bearing on the drive side spinned with difficulty. Bearing on the non-drive side is ok. Is it serious & do you have an idea what may cause this ? I was thinking maybe I pushed the BB too far toward the non-drive side.. Tks in advance
I've just emailed you.
I know my response is two years after date, and would like to say that I'm weary of Press Fits, concerning Bottom Brackets in contrast to Threaded Ones, simply for the Ease of Adjustments. However, threaded BB's now a days are considered Old School, which I feel still work better in terms of Installation (no press tools needed) and can Last a Long Time.Press fits have to maintain a very close tolerances between the Frame BB Shell, in relation to the BB Component being Installed, and those tolerances are hard to maintain. Any Glues being used between two High Stress Surfaces will act as a soft cushion eventually giving way and breaking down from vibratory, impact, and cranking forces, in which threaded BB units do not have that flaw in the design!I know Press Fits are being installed on Carbon Fiber Units, however, I think Carbon Fiber BB Shells can be designed differently, in eliminating Loosening, and using Glues of any kind? But that's only my opinion! The Mavic 610 BB Design comes to mind!
Were you not supposed to apply some activator too?
it was pre applied
It still seems to me that there is an extremely strong connection between the outer bearing race and the frame, but almost no attempt to connect the inner race to the crank; the crank just sort of lays on the inner races. Why doesn't the crank just spin on its axis independently of the bearings, in which case the ball bearings would be completely irrelevant?
I don't know of any BB that does what you're describing. You want hambini to develop a force field that the cranks sit on?
The spindle will sometimes spin inside the inner race, you will see signs upon removal. Quality bearings and finely toleranced manufacturing of the cranks and spindle will reduce the incidence of galling on the spindle.
I have a Genesis Croix der Fer and no idea which model I need for my bike can anybody help?
Have you noticed that there is a brand called BBINFINITE that provides similar solution as yours
Yes I have seen their bottom brackets.
So preload tightness is not that important, fingertight is ok?
Yes, you can't tighten it super hard with the tool.
When bearing maintenance or replacement is needed on the Hambini PF30 BB do you have to remove the whole BB or is it fairly easy to remove the bearings only? Is there a maintenance video to view or an instructional pdf file to download?
Bearings can be replaced in situ, you don't need to remove the bottom bracket. This video shows you how for PF30/BBright and plain BB30 without an adaptor ua-cam.com/video/zD0q_0TsHa0/v-deo.html
I hope you will still interact on older videos. My understanding is the entire BB - crank assembly have no mechanical stopper on the non-driveside of the frame, am I correct? So I'm assuming what keep it sliding off the drive-side is the retaining compound and friction.
The crank arm is an obvious stopper.
Hi Hambini, Could park tool rc-1 replace the loctite ? If so, should we use as well ap-1 primer ? Or is it better not to use at all ? tks in advance
I would use the loctite
@@Hambini I dont have loctite, just rc1.. Its not good ?
Bike specific stuff is an unknown. The loctite is well used and universally adopted
Thinking about getting a caad12 but I've always rejected BB30 and pressfit nonsense. Is this the ultimate solution to creaks? I trust Hambini but I'd love to hear from other users
Provided the tolerances are within a fairly decent range it should not creak.
I use one on my Supersix
Why don't you face the frames bottom bracket
Creaking BB? Lotsa grease during install.....
Hilarious subs : 'The Ham beanie bottom bracket' !
Where do you machine the bottom brackets? Are you planning on having a home machine shop?
Hi, I have a lathe to make things on. Thanks Hambini
Gaps on mating surfaces, do not make for a full contact fit. Which in turn is a flaw in design, and problematic fit in a critical area of the Bike!
100% correct
Carbon Fiber - Thumbs Down! Expensive Garbage...
u didn't faced it, why ? see the paint on the drive side...…...it need to be faced dude. greetz from a 1st clas dutch mechanic ;) but apart from that u freaking rock !!! big fan!
it looks like impossible to extract...
It's very easy ua-cam.com/video/SmWzAoe1XG8/v-deo.html
@@Hambini I wasn't sure the frame could hold the extracting force, especially since you used loctite.
A hairdryer will usually soften it.
In this video, highly luminescent man attempts to describe dark matter
I read the title and was confused that hambini reads one piece manga
loctite 641? really?
what the hell is going on with your left middle finger nail? uuuughhh