@@treverwood34 I feel like they need some rebalancing in this mod to be competitive vis-a-vis other races. They play as though they're one, maybe two tech levels below Terran/UED standard, which makes perfect sense canonically (and in the campaign they originate from) but kind of makes balance difficult. That said, this is very early days with them, so a lot more matchups and testing would be needed. I'm also curious how well the Dragons in this mod are balanced.
UED rubbed those poor UPL infantry into the dirt with that oppressive rifle battery range boost, and the TR17s** design of "no splash, high alpha" suits the Lazarus just fine for reviving one dude at a time - siege tanks would threaten that UED force a lot more. The mortar troops got some good hits, but the projectile travel time makes it avoidable. Rough time for pink, but it's hard to say the UPL didn't have any good answers from just one game, and naturally there's player skill and derring-do on display here from our UED buddy: that two prong in the midgame tying up defenders on the right that couldn't move away to save the gold was a cool move! Hopefully we can see more from our UPL pals, maybe faring better against their Zerg/Roach archnemesis.
Yeah, I think the TR17s are quite strong though, their main limitation in this game being the lack of infantry... The UPL infantry can still stand up to the UED's though even with the high powered shot, though I wouldn't say they are necessarily better. I think ExistanZ should've made the regular UPL trooper rather than the heavy gunner as they're a better cost for anti-light damage. Although I think it would be due more to just simply my opponent slipping up on macro (though I did to don't get me wrong)
Man I love these videos, I forgot about this one but considering you haven't made a video in a while I think that's a good thing, like finding some treat you forgot you saved.
Thanks for the video! would like to seee more people playing the mod. it will motivates to make new updates . i would like to make an update with balancing, AI for all custom races, statistics and addtional features
It looks like you've been doing a ton of work balancing! Big question though - how do I properly pronounce your name? Is it Vice-roid... Vik-er-oid... none of the above?
Watching the one video alone makes it hard to tell, but it seems like the UPL is severely underpowered by how it got stomped in almost every single engagement.
Are dragons abandoned? I'm seeing more and more replays from them out there, I think someone has been trying to rebalance them (if we're talking about the same thing...).
@@ZugzwangStarcraft As far as I can tell, the original Dragons mod has long since been abandoned (it works for the most part, but I'm starting to see some bugs pop up). The mod sort of lives on in ALL RACES PVP, and appears to be getting some balance changes (Dragons can no longer convert resources, and the Fleshrender can't attack ground anymore).
Not stupid at all - you should be asking! These particular races are found in the mod called "ALL RACES PVP". However, if you are unfamiliar with how to add a mod to your SC2 game, you want to learn with this super short tutorial here: ua-cam.com/video/mWNWSoyykac/v-deo.html You'll just need to substitute the different mod name. It's completely free and probably much easier to set up than you'd expect.
Helicopters and tanks with 2 cannons just make it look like a ww2 game. Also, the names aren’t compelling at all. Can’t say I will remember “TR17” in a week. Surely not as great as the “Viking” or the “Assimilator”
It does seem like the UED is overpowered compared to the UPL, but I still believe the UPL had a good chance of winning, the strike fighters could have been beaten by the Ospreys (assuming they weren't sacrificed into losing fights with infantry dealing little to no damage). As for the UED bio ball, I think the UPL should have had a good chance with their TR17's but they were miss-managed and not properly covered by the UPL infantry. Also mispronouncing mortar has driven me mad
So yeah. That's actually deliberate. The UPL is a precursor faction in terms of Starcraft cannon. So it's like near-future fiction. Their earth-based tech is only a few hundred years beyond our own. I'll agree, it's not as sexy, but I concede it was done for a reason.
UPL: But who the hell are you people?
UED: The future is now, old man
The protoss Mothership spell time warp returns briefly and goes terribly wrong, bringing us this killer match up.
Hey Zugz where you been? I need my Alt race videos lol
This is super interesting, I didn't know the UPL was added to the All Races mod! Heck yeah.
I owe Magical Cookie for the FYI on that!
Just remember there infantry is very fragile I’m not sure u can call them glass cannon’s
@@treverwood34 I feel like they need some rebalancing in this mod to be competitive vis-a-vis other races. They play as though they're one, maybe two tech levels below Terran/UED standard, which makes perfect sense canonically (and in the campaign they originate from) but kind of makes balance difficult.
That said, this is very early days with them, so a lot more matchups and testing would be needed.
I'm also curious how well the Dragons in this mod are balanced.
I mean I just wiped out a toss player with tanks z1s and a couple of a6
@@treverwood34 Maybe I spoke too soon, well done tho!
This is my favourite cast since Husky!
. . . Who happens to have returned to the scene, but casting himself playing so far xP
Hey thanks Misa!
The way the UPL build makes me think of Orc Peons in WarCraft 3.
That's a good analogy!
UED rubbed those poor UPL infantry into the dirt with that oppressive rifle battery range boost, and the TR17s** design of "no splash, high alpha" suits the Lazarus just fine for reviving one dude at a time - siege tanks would threaten that UED force a lot more. The mortar troops got some good hits, but the projectile travel time makes it avoidable.
Rough time for pink, but it's hard to say the UPL didn't have any good answers from just one game, and naturally there's player skill and derring-do on display here from our UED buddy: that two prong in the midgame tying up defenders on the right that couldn't move away to save the gold was a cool move!
Hopefully we can see more from our UPL pals, maybe faring better against their Zerg/Roach archnemesis.
Yeah, I think the TR17s are quite strong though, their main limitation in this game being the lack of infantry... The UPL infantry can still stand up to the UED's though even with the high powered shot, though I wouldn't say they are necessarily better. I think ExistanZ should've made the regular UPL trooper rather than the heavy gunner as they're a better cost for anti-light damage. Although I think it would be due more to just simply my opponent slipping up on macro (though I did to don't get me wrong)
That's it! I agree. There was no splash - they were like Genetron moles in a way. Still great but maybe the wrong tool here.
Yeah, your macro is pretty high level dude. Your opponents have make a lot of good decisions to keep pace.
I miss these videos, when I was watching direct strike vids I realized something was missing one day and it was the custom race 1v1s
Man I love these videos, I forgot about this one but considering you haven't made a video in a while I think that's a good thing, like finding some treat you forgot you saved.
Isn't UPL the predecessor of UED? If so I prefer a different name for it.
I like to think this is the result of an accident with time travel technology.
Philadelphia experiment
Yeah, that works!
Thanks for the video! would like to seee more people playing the mod. it will motivates to make new updates . i would like to make an update with balancing, AI for all custom races, statistics and addtional features
It looks like you've been doing a ton of work balancing! Big question though - how do I properly pronounce your name? Is it Vice-roid... Vik-er-oid... none of the above?
Where do these new races come from this is awesome. I wonder why it took 12 years for these types of mods to appear
UPL was being made for longer than 12 years. Its entire custom campaign with full voice, music and nightmare level of difficulty.
It's from the ALL RACES P V P mod. Definitely one of most useful mods out there.
Watching the one video alone makes it hard to tell, but it seems like the UPL is severely underpowered by how it got stomped in almost every single engagement.
Very hard to say when the enemy is (1) UED and (2) being played by Dairy Product (AKA You). I agree, we'll need to see more.
thought the UPL vespene things blew up? or is that only when the geysers are reskinned
IS SUPER COOL I ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE UPL IN PVP
Thanks to Viceroid for making that happen.
0:43 It builds like a plodder from that abandoned dragons mod.
Are dragons abandoned? I'm seeing more and more replays from them out there, I think someone has been trying to rebalance them (if we're talking about the same thing...).
@@ZugzwangStarcraft As far as I can tell, the original Dragons mod has long since been abandoned (it works for the most part, but I'm starting to see some bugs pop up). The mod sort of lives on in ALL RACES PVP, and appears to be getting some balance changes (Dragons can no longer convert resources, and the Fleshrender can't attack ground anymore).
those UPL heilcopters are cool
The UPL worker drone builds like a (mostly) reusable drone not a scv.
Needed some z1s there heavy hitters and can take a punishment
I'd like to see those get busted out in the next game.
Well if I get a chance mabey I could send you one warn ya I’m not very good
@@ZugzwangStarcraft how do I send replays because Iv got one with upl vs toss though to be honest it won’t be a high level like ur used to
내 친구들은 새로운 진영들을 하고 싶어하지만.. pvp보다는 아무래도 협동전을 위주로 하다보니.. 아쉬운 점이 많습니다.
Whole thing looks like Command and Conquer to me, or even Dune
what does UPL stand for? maybe United Protoss Lovers?
United Powers League, they are the old Earth organization that would change into the UED.
@@R17inator thanks i knew the UED but UPL is new to me
United Powers League. They're the UED's predecessor from the Last Light campaign.
UPL is for United Powers League (if I remember, it's like an Orwellian version of the UN)
Unlimited Potato Lice? (United Powers league)
Btw, Zuzwang... A long time wasn't new video... It's time to back in SC2. Check please Way to Liberty (v.2.x) mod
Thanks! I'll try to check it out! What is it?
@@ZugzwangStarcraft that is another fine mod in SC2 game universe. Hope, you'll like it ,😇
This is command and conquer
Cool video what race mod you using?
where can play this MAP?
Hope you are well. Miss you my man!
Happy new year James! Happy New Year! Best to you and yours!
Wish there was a standalone melee mod for UPL. AI doesn't work for ALL RACES PVP.
Where can I participate in these sort of matches?
Got you covered in my prior answer on another vid pogmaster - just check there my friend.
are you a chess fan? wondering from the name? Do you stream chess ever or post chess videos on here?
I am a chess fan, but there is no chess content on here. All Starcraft 2, all the time. Though it would be cool to have some Stormgate one day!
Stupid question, but how do i play these new races???
Not stupid at all - you should be asking! These particular races are found in the mod called "ALL RACES PVP". However, if you are unfamiliar with how to add a mod to your SC2 game, you want to learn with this super short tutorial here:
ua-cam.com/video/mWNWSoyykac/v-deo.html
You'll just need to substitute the different mod name. It's completely free and probably much easier to set up than you'd expect.
Thanks buddy will do@@ZugzwangStarcraft
I was hoping to see CARR but he's a campaign unit
You can actually make him in this mod, just 1 at a time
how is tihs mod called? I really wanna know
How does one create their own 4th race?
A lot of work in the editor.
Helicopters and tanks with 2 cannons just make it look like a ww2 game.
Also, the names aren’t compelling at all. Can’t say I will remember “TR17” in a week.
Surely not as great as the “Viking” or the “Assimilator”
Awesome! ❤
StarCraft 2 Alternate please...
It does seem like the UED is overpowered compared to the UPL, but I still believe the UPL had a good chance of winning, the strike fighters could have been beaten by the Ospreys (assuming they weren't sacrificed into losing fights with infantry dealing little to no damage). As for the UED bio ball, I think the UPL should have had a good chance with their TR17's but they were miss-managed and not properly covered by the UPL infantry.
Also mispronouncing mortar has driven me mad
Heya Lionbreaker - hope you recover! I'd be interested to see an even number of ospreys up against an even number of strikefighters.
"Motor trooper" Welp I can't watch now. ;_;
only had one game until now with the UPL but my oponent askd me to not Workerrush
LOL! That was most kind of you. That's like my best strat.
Helicopters and tanks with 2 cannons just make it look like a ww2 game.
Also, the unit names aren’t compelling at all.
So yeah. That's actually deliberate. The UPL is a precursor faction in terms of Starcraft cannon. So it's like near-future fiction. Their earth-based tech is only a few hundred years beyond our own. I'll agree, it's not as sexy, but I concede it was done for a reason.
first
also your early today
and last who said you shoudnt do intros ill fight him right now WHERE IS HE
Awesome! I'll arrange the Thunder Dome!
the UPL are like Nato they should have abrams x tanks
Whats upl mean?
United Powers League. Before UED and Brood War, there was UPL.
It doesn't look like starcraft and it doesn't feel like that. In my opinion it's not a progress, rather just modders throwing ideas.
Uhhh how is this a new "race" if they're both humans, maybe different factions make more sense 😏.
Agreed, "race' is a pretty cumbersome term. I agree, factions works better. But, hey, old habits die hard. We'll get there.
Looks like 2 terran rip offs
Mortar.. moRtar troopers 🥲😅. Not a car engine 😋.
Great game as always though !
Sorry Mauffuman, I'll get it right next time...maybe, probably not, 50/50, no that's a lie too.
i love the races