@brian' I do but in today's time, too many people think UA-cam videos and Google searches can replace formal education. I see so many on social media try to speak about evolution, anthropology, philosophy, linguistics, and other sciences simply because they read a CNN article written by a mainstream atheist scientist.
Eve In this context, the term made sense. I agree with your argument, about people carelessly writing about subjects they don’t really understand, but here I don’t see that.
Well Marilyn Manson must hate peaches. He put Evan Rachel Wood ahead of her. What a fucking idiot! On Dita's worst day and on Evan's best day, she still couldn't hold a candle to that woman.
He spend 10 minutes saying nothing because he seemed afraid to really tell the truth. So the comment section remains confused. Men = fuck/marry anything hot or beautiful, they don't give a fuck as long as it's either of those and sometimes ugly does the job, but they don't marry ugly, has to be hot or beautiful. They marry ugly if they have no other choice. And women marry anything into money and success. They don't marry beauty or hotness.
This explains a lot. I've had crush over someone just for their looks and I've very gradually developed a crush over someone who I didn't even register as hot at first. They feel a lot different.
Yes this is what distinguishes my current gf to all other girls I've had crushes on. I had a crush on her ever since I was a kid, pre-puberty, and I could always feel it was much different than the others.
Beauty does too imo, but in a different way. I always tell my fiancee she gives me the coziest of boners because if we do get it on I'm totally invested in her pleasure as a result of her being a good person. The same could not be said about random hot women I encounter in my life.
I have to disagree. If you exrecise and keep a healthy lifestyle, your raisin genes start to pop around 80 years old. Many 60 year olds that look younger than your average 30 year old.
This is why The Joe Rogan Show is as popular as it is. The quality of this discussion is sooo far beyond what you can get on any TV show, it is laughable.
@@Azer1125 TV is good for shit like The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad. Thing is, this is like less than 1% of the total content that is on TV - so much of it is mindless drivel.
A couple years ago my wife and I were at a family function(we are in our mid 30s with 3 little girls of our own). 2 of her distant cousins arrived who are both in their early 20s. 10lbs of makeup, fake lashes, fake nails, fake boobs, fake everything; but definitely a commanding presence in the restaurant. I can see it on my wife that she was flooded with insecurity in an instant. I reassured her that being a hot girl pales in comparison to being a beautiful woman. I think the perspective given in this video proved to be true in this instance because that statement visibly lifted her countenance.
My girlfriend has the same issue, she's not conventionally, stereotypically "hot", but she's incredibly cute and beautiful at the same time. Im always trying to tell her so, but she always feels insecure when she sees a woman that you'd consider hot I guess.
You still called her cousins 'hot' though which would have done nothing for her insecurity. Would have been better if you called them trashy or said they looked like transvestites.
@@Myview246 No, since it's disrespectful to bully people for their appearance to make yourself feel better. Insecurities shouldn't be solved by bringing other people down.
For me, "pretty" has more to do with physical attractiveness from the neck, up. "Hot" has more to do with physical attractiveness from the neck, down -- especially in regard to physical fitness. "Beauty," on the other hand, at least for me, has to do with attractiveness outside the realm of physical attraction, with some crossover into the physical forms.
You can hear this guy filtering every single sentence he utters holding to dear life in this outrage culture we live in... It is kind of sad to be honest
Clout Lord I was about to ask if you have been to college lately and remembered who was in this video after all.. And even if it was only an internet bizarre phenomenon this wouldn’t mean less since now social media madness and pressure can - and do - twist people’s image forever irl and even fire them. Society’s integration with the internet is not something apart like it used to be, it’s now an extension of people’s lives with rules and laws that apply outside of it too, and an affront to speech here is not something you can just escape by disconnecting your modem anymore unfortunately.
That's not true, he's a scientist and all scientists do this. They all filter, it's what makes them come across very well and perceived to be intelligent (which they are)
It's true. But he's broadly from the same ideology as the thought police. It's great to see these intellects coming over to the sensible side but they were part of the reason we ended up here.
@n cw While that might be true I think most people that cheat cheat because they are cheaters. Hence the phrase "how you got em is how you lose em". They will likely cheat on the hot girl too and cheat at a lot of things in life not just relationships, it's just a general character flaw they posses. If your partner cheats in games/school/business etc. Watch. Your. Back. Another reason is because their chosen "life-partner" (the hot and beautiful one they married) is a prude. Which is why you'll come across stories of guys with beautiful smoking hot wives and not very attractive mistresses. The mistress actually puts out which was the whole point of having a hot wife in the first place.
@n cw they will gonna cheat anyway, look at those Hollywood hotties.. thier males cheated on them too..lol.. Actually guys don't know what they want..like women.
@@WillBlindYouWithLight because like they said it’s not about the other person and how much they can give, the cheater is just a cheater no matter how good the person is.
@@IsaacAsimov1992 Strength. This could be inner or outer strength. I feel like strong men have a higher capacity to love and be able to take care of others and that’s beautiful to me. Inner strength in particular is a fire that never goes out once you possess it.
@@bm5_5_5 Thanks, and that's a good answer. Like a lot of things strength isn't so easy to define. I know I'm strong in some ways but in other ways I consider myself weak.
....I’ve noticed my hubby says I’m “beautiful” when I have no makeup , hair in a bun and sweats on but says I’m “hot” whenever I wear makeup, my hair down and form fitting clothes....I’ve always noticed this, even when we were dating ,but never given it much thought until now
I personally think women look amazing when they have no makeup, hair all messy, and wearing pajama pants. To me for some reason, it's hot and beautiful.
Risav Sahu of course my friend that’s why I made the distinction 😂😂😂. But come on there are multiple famous jokers you do usually have to specify cut me some slack
I think hotness is superficial, while beauty goes deeper. I've seen women as well as men who were hot, but not terribly interesting or bright. They might be good to look at, but would you want to try to have a deep and meaningful conversation about the mysteries of the universe with them if they could never get past their looks or what others thought of them? Beauty, on the other hand, involves more than just the physical appearance. It's how they carry themselves, how they can conduct a conversation, whether they had a dark sense of humor, and their personal code of helping others. True beauty, when cultivated effectively, I think gets better with age. It's something I wish more young women could realize, because then they could stop shooting for the unattainable goals of perfection and instead focus on doing the best they can with what they were born with.
Fantastic post. Such excellent points. I was thinking the conversation on the video was too black and white..not enough depth or nuance. Humans are way more complex. Men tend to compartmentalize too much. We are far more multifaceted. Putting women into just 2 categories is ridiculous and shallow.
hot people exude sexual energy which doesn’t require intellectual conversations because their one goal is sex. whereas on the other hand beautiful people tend to be more conversationally inclined because they are aiming for marriage, which would mean a life of conversation
Historically a woman who is hot is seen as such because she loves her body and is uninhibited sexually. There is something intangible about true beauty that encompasses kindness and compassion. The combination of both is the pinnacle of femininity. Stop thinking its an either or. Be both.
As a single hetero male with some experience (57) I have always related hotness to individuality, compassion, intelligence, self sufficiency and determination. I always find the woman who doesn't need to be with me, but chooses to, to be the hottest. She also must have strength of character. Being readily available sexually is a bit of a turn off, however counter-intuitive that sounds. When I used to go to singles bars back in the day, I would always watch for the woman that would rebuff guys all night. She would be the one I would approach, and usually be able to flirt with successfully. I have met, and dated some very smart and discerning women that way. The women most men don't get to be with. THAT is hot! Usually a lot less drama as well, as they tend to be well grounded in themselves.
The only thing you can do to honor that is to treat the next one right. Everyone’s makes mistakes, it’s what we do after the mistake that forms our character. Also.... that’s a big step, to admit where you have gone wrong. 💪🏽🖤 good for you man.
Depends what you mean. A woman with a great face can have a sterile physical persona, be almost invisible walking by while a woman who is average face but has some beautiful movement in her hips and a sensuous physical demeanour can stop conversations. It's still an outward manifestation of inner qualities, but it's not purely internal. The prettier woman with no sexual physicality might need to be more active or do yoga or explore Latin dance or do something external like that. It's inside AND outside regardless how you look. Character and feminine connectedness are sexy and desired traits that can be visually evident.
Same thing applies to men. A man can be classically handsome and physically fit, but if he doesn't carry himself with that 'certain something' and a little swagger he's just good looking and NOT sexy or as you say "hot".
So true!! The hotness is really to do with who he actually is. I find a guy irresistible if he’s physically attractive AND he’s confident, kind, self assured. To me his looks don’t have to be 100% (though he can’t be “ugly” in my eyes) but the personality needs to be right for me to have any interest at all.
The amount of guys that don’t understand this is nuts. I got a lot of friends who I’d say are in physically better shape and are genetically better looking (I’m not bad looking but hardly a supermodel) but have no swagger, wit, confidence in themselves beyond just their physical appearance. The result is that I’ve struggled way less in basically all my interactions platonic or not with women. And funniest of all they’ve never had any sort of curiosity as to why that’s the case outside of remarking angrily that I don’t go to the gym so that doesn’t make sense lmao.
As a women who have suffered a lot with relationships. I want to thankyou for having this video in your channel. I'm trying to not focus on hotness anymore.
"males really have 3 reproductive strategies but the last one is so aweful that I dont even want to enter it into the discussion" (not even 0.2 seconds later) Joe Rogan: "You're talking about rape" God damn it joe.
Hmm. This puts being told I was "the hottest girl in highschool" in a new light. An abusive childhood (aka "Daddy issues"), a giant chest and eating disorders, and I was considered bangable. These days, the pain of so many heart and body breaking events and the strength to overcome them and fight through.. I've been told I am beautiful and unattainable more times than I can remember. I think a large part of the difference between "hotness" and beauty is the factor of accessibility or attainability. I carry myself differently now. I look people in the eyes steadily, seriously and defiantly instead of briefly and coyly. Things can change over time. People change. Labels are transitory. Main thing to remember or build is respect of self.
I think the whole set of experiences you've had with a person can overshadow their physical beauty/hotness quite quickly. If we set aside extreme outliers on both ends, average or somewhat close to average people can turn into either extremely attractive or repelling partners based on just their behaviors.
so the HOT female is jacked...hard to not get past the hotness to see the beauty and the hot female knows she has tremendous power. broadcasting hotness is the fashion design females use and most have NO CLUE the power of their body!
I seen an older women, 60+ that was truly beautiful. Perfect symmetry and bone structure. She had wrinkles and skin looked aged. Yet she was truly beautiful.
My two cents: Hot = body, fitness, hair, makeup, cosmetic surgery, work done, tight clothes, projected confidence, risk taking excitement etc Beautiful = inside and out, a caring empathetic personality, kindness, fitness/health as in looking after oneself, genetics that cannot be changed with any procedure, sense of style, good self esteem, self-respect, giving back to the world in one way or another Cute = all about intellect, endearing qualities, uniqueness, personal interests etc and has nothing to do whatsoever with outside appearance And all 3 makes you a triple threat guy (girl) 😂
For me "hot" is someone with an amazing body and "beauty" is someone with an amazing face. The body generally doesn't age well, but the face can age quite gracefully.
Arutemisu What I got from the discussion is that someone can have a beautiful face and still not beautiful. In this instance beauty means someone with a nice attitude some caring ...basically beauty is within.. if you find someone that is hot and beautiful (in the context of the discussion) you have hit the jackpot
for this clips they use the sounds directly from the soundboard, mAybe the audio output for the podcast is different hence why he tells people to get closer to the mic. you. can make a mic sound closer with a mixer but its easier to just tell the person to get closer
The audio levels are being balanced on the fly by Jamie, so if someones audio levels suddenly drops he obviously signals to Joe to tell the guest to return to the previous position. Otherwise if the guest suddenly returns to the previous position without Jamie returning the levels to where they were, the audio would peak and sound horrible.
When someone say its beautiful - it tickles their visual senses like when u r looking at a painting. When they say its hot - it tickles their sexual senses
My ex husband once told me “The night I met you at that party you were the hottest woman there by far.... but a week later when I came to pick you up for our first date I realized that you were beautiful”......I told him it made no sense and he explained it to me by saying “Hot is from the neck down, and Beauty is from the neck up”....take it for what you will but it sort of made sense to me at the time.
The term 'triggered' has been hijacked by certain groups and now is seen as a political word, as opposed to its dictionary definition, so he feels he can't just use it freely any more
When I was 19 I went out with a guy. He did not call after that but after a couple of months I heard that he described me as „the kind of girl you marry“. I was young, stupid and quite self-conscious, so I did not understand that it was actually a big compliment. I guess I wanted to be hot and not beautiful to men at 19. Now at 35 I see clearly that being beautiful is the better way to go long-term. Human babies are indeed extremely needy 😊
Honest question, how would you react to being told you would be a great mom? I sometimes thought that about a girlfriend, but I think it might sound silly or wrong. (I'm not into kids at all, even when I was with her). Would you take it as a compliment? something weird? creepy?
@@canobenitez actually, my friends used to tell me this all the time and it used to really bother me. but honestly when people tell me that now, i view it as a complement. it feels more genuine.
As a young 20 year old woman, I’m so glad I saw this video and read some lovely comments. I’m very shy and I’m very to myself a lot of people tell me I’m pretty but I never believe it because I have fiends who attract guys like magnets because they have phenomenal bodies and are an open book but I have never had a boy find me attractive or let it be known to me and sometimes it makes me very insecure but I know I’m a great girl and will find the the right one one day ☺️
If you want to understand real gender dynamics, check out Edward Dutton or else Stefan Molyneux at Freedomain on Odysee. They are trying to address r/K theory in this video, but failing badly and sending mixed messages because of the nonsense opener of choosing between hotness and beauty. Another good one UA-cam is Jennifer Moleski.
I felt the same way when I was your age. I felt very insecure about myself. The thing that changed my life was going to University. I studied dentistry and it automatically boosted my self-esteem like crazyyyy. I felt so confident and proud in myself. I made good money and money also helps boosting your confidence. I also started going regularly to gym and my life really changed. As you get more confident in yourself, you exude that energy of demanding respect and being praised (may sound egotistic). Try doing something in life that will add to your value outside of the physical. attractiveness is mental as well. For me education made the trick. Try figuring out your life path and that will automatically boost your self esteem :)
Yeah! I found that excruciating. It took the floor out from under her especially since I’d had no rouble hearing her at all. I wanted to punch Joe for the power play
Her body language continually reflected his looming over her - as she turned slightly away all the while, he took his leadership lack of tact and directed it at her.
Women often become more beautiful after their 20s. They should know that and hopefully feel better. Also quirky women with some interesting features are way more beautiful than a robotic appearance.
@@paulj9821 well I said after 20s. You said to 30. But 30s easily better than 20s except for fake Barbie doll look tricking some guys with little taste.
When I picture hotness I just see a curvy, fertile, nubile body. When I picture beauty I see an aesthetically pleasing face. I don’t really think hotness necessarily equates sluttiness in my mind.
Def agree, but a few things. First off your first sentence was perfect. But in hotness I still do need something alluring from the face. Even something like the smile, or eyes, complexion etc...You also have to put hotness in the same category as sexy then basically. That is what the initial, hormone freak self is feeling, at least that's how I feel.
I could be wrong, but I always saw hotness as superficial/sexual attraction. Beauty is something that radiates from the person and is timeless. You can see it in their eyes and in their smile.
2 years later, but I agree with you. Hot women are women I appreciate for how they make me feel down there, but beautiful women I appreciate for how they make me feel up there. I hope that makes sense. lol
The reason why ‘hot’ girls are sometimes seen as more attractive than beautiful girls is the ‘hot’ girls truly only care about appearance so, they invest all their time, money and energy into being more physically attractive. Beautiful women still are competent when it comes to their looks. They take good care of themselves too. However, they also spend time investing in their education, family, friends and passions. They seem to have untapped physical potential and people wonder why they haven’t utilized it. They’ve spent that time elsewhere.
Alexander Stewart beautiful women just have more to offer, in my opinion. they don’t rely on their looks because they have other shit going for them. the biggest tragedy to me is a “hot” girl who’s a total ice queen who’s afraid of being funny or silly because she MUST look hot and serious at all times...that’s so dry and boring.
A hot woman can have more to offer than just her hotness. Also putting a lot of time into how you look doesn’t mean you invest all your time in it. Like I care very much about how I look when I go out but it doesn’t mean I do that all day long and I don’t know anybody who does.
"....not searching for them in the same individual." This last small statement right there holds so much truth. The concept of what men want for their wife (aka the Beauty), and then if they can find the woman they can do all those things to, that they would never do with the mother of their children, this is the Mistress (aka Hotness). However, I do believe women get these persona's confused when trying to attract a man. Attraction is so subjective. Not everyone is going to find the same characteristics Beautiful or Hot. This was an interesting discussion.
Discussing complex human emotions did not form any part of his argument. He talked about beauty, hotness and needy babies. I almost feel it would be better to talk about human reproduction in terms of love and lust. You can feel lustful towards the person you are in love with, but not necessarily be in love with a person you feel lustful towards.
Lunar Dee I still think it’s bullshit that some random person would say something like that and not have to suffer any consequences. I bet he wouldn’t have the balls to say it to someone’s face like that. And I’m confused why he said it in the first place. Your profile pic isn’t even an inch yet your skin is still glowing through the screen. I wish I looked half as good as you lol
TipTheScales27 I’m sure if he saw me he would call me beautiful to my face and try and get my number if my presence didn’t intimidate him already. Thank for you standing up for me xxx 😘
Dude you're so right. I wanna see him make an ASMR channel, get one of those ear microphones and like fart into a pillow then scratch at it with this nails
Right. Hotness is glaringly-appealing, head-turning physicality. And this can be subject to one's taste but it is almost always about the objectified person's proportions, vocal timbre, age. All things primally desired in a "mate." Beauty, however, though one might often ruminate on a person's physicality, it is with much more nuance and consideration. With someone beautiful, your first impulse isn't to seed or be seeded (though this may be your second or inevitable impulse) but to luxuriate in their features, lean into them, catch the way the nearest light source illuminates their eyes, their lips, both matching preternaturally perfect in hue with their un-painted skin. Hot is a young, 1995 Yasmine Bleeth. Beautiful is the singular visage of Isabelle Huppert. (add. Our celebrities, namely, actors and models, are hard to equivocate between hot and beautiful by virtue of their being. They are celebrities because they typically exemplify either both labels or begin hot and transition to being beautiful. We should all be so lucky.)
Somehow, beauty is ignored from age 18 to 50. The amount of fake beauty masquerading itself as true beauty is scary. Really, is it needed to wear so much make up on your face thinking you can bed any guy you want??
Yeah. Islam as well as the two other Abrahamic religions. Nuns as you know also wear modest clothing. Orthodox jewish women also wear modest clothing. A head scarf was globally widespread until very recent times.
I was always so hard on myself to get the perfect “hot body” seen on so many fitness models on Instagram. After watching this I realized that I would always be complimented by other as beautiful, and not as hot. Watching this has made me feel so much better about myself.
If that's you in your picture, I can honestly say, that as long as your face goes accompanied with kindness and femininity, you are really beautiful. And I don't have low standards, so don't worry about it :)
Hotness is a measure of reproductive value, therefore youthness and fitness are hot Beauty is a measure of aesthetics, there are even beautiful trees, rocks, etc, you can loose your youthness but keep being beautiful since it's about the symmetry and harmony of your body
Agreed. It begins exactly that moment when you stop trying to validate yourself by the amount of sexual attention you get from guys. Because we all know how long it lasts for. I wish we teach our daughters this. :)
@Penny miller Since women are HALF the population there is no need to be paranoid about people type casting you based on one random lady on youtube. Everyone knows woman come in many shapes, colors, intellectual levels, and have many different personality quakes. I hope you also realize that.
I feel like a girl being hot is just you being sexually attracted to her. But her being beautiful is involves being attracted to her mentally and physically.
Smell is a big part of it, pheromones, have you noticed someone's natural smell? There's a biochemical element that he could mention. As an old chick I can look back on dating and link natural smells of dudes (skin on neck/chest) to true longevity/lasting attraction. I could literally smell when someone wasn't right for me, but usually ignored because they were throwing flowers and crap and awesome romantic gestures and positive attention is attractive, too. :)
This makes a lot of sense. All the guys I’ve dated tell me I’m beautiful and would want to be in a committed relationship with me but aren’t ready. I respect the honesty because no one gave the goods. Mutual respect and go our different ways🤝
Beauty is classic good looks, in my opinion. They would look beautiful buying groceries... it doesn’t matter. Hotness is good looks that are then heavily sexualized.
I just finished watching a Netflix series called “Too Hot to Handle” and I now understand why so many men are attracted to a contestant in there named Francesca Farango. From a woman’s perspective, I didn’t find her beautiful. Her face was certainly not beautiful to me. But the men went crazy over her and I can see now it’s because her body is very very hot. She is the “hot girl”
It’s pretty funny when I was watching this I realized my definition of hotness and beauty is reversed from how they describe it. I believe this is probably because how young people now describe actions and other such things as hot, whereas beauty is mainly a physical attributes for at least myself. It was pretty crazy to see just how perfectly my definitions of these 2 words were mirrored.
This is so funny because I JUST said above to a younger guy I am sure-I think you’re mixing up “hot” as they mean it with “beauty.” Beauty in my generation (I’m 44) is what guys married, hit us what they just eff.
Bret: "the I idea is so awful we shouldn't even bring it up at all" Joe: "You're talking about rape"? 💀💀💀 Joe really just ignored his avoidance of the topic.
That was hilarious 😂 I appreciated that. This is Joe's podcast after all. If he wants to clarify something his guest said rather than let his guests have to guess/assume what the guest was saying, that's awesome. And also fux cancel culture
"HOTNESS" is about the EFFECT beauty has on a person. Her beauty makes the "blood boil" is to what that expression is referring. In other words, SHE is not hot, SHE makes YOU hot.
Hotness is a unit to measure attractiveness which is raised by improving body composition while enhancing specific muscles and also maintaining healthy skin and hair. Not everyone is beautiFUL but anyone can be HoT.
socialization plays a huge role in how we perceive beauty so let's not forget how much of our ideas around beauty are also based on decades of motivated media representation
Abby Mohler 100% correct. It’s very interesting when you look at the history of Gillette Razors & L’Oreal. They were a massive influence in getting people to feel the need to look “prettier” or feel “cleaner” by using their products. The media has also helped build complete social mind constructs that warp a lot of perception of what is, or is not “beauty” recognized today in the Western world.
@3,14 _ All true, except that big breasts have nothing to do with milk production. Small breasts have the same milk ducts and make the same amount of milk as large ones. The current obsession and fetishization of large breasts (especially unnaturally large ones on slender women) is a fairly new and unhealthy phenomenon that seems to have been formed by the porn industry.
Her: _"Talk dirty to me."_
Me: *_"You're an evolutionary bargain."_*
Ok so go ahead and explain this because I love when people repeat what they don't understand.
@Eve
It was a joke.
@@unicornswag888 Ok
@brian' I do but in today's time, too many people think UA-cam videos and Google searches can replace formal education. I see so many on social media try to speak about evolution, anthropology, philosophy, linguistics, and other sciences simply because they read a CNN article written by a mainstream atheist scientist.
Eve In this context, the term made sense. I agree with your argument, about people carelessly writing about subjects they don’t really understand, but here I don’t see that.
This is just a very formal discussion with the boys on a saturday night
and the lady friend that is also a bro lol
I thought this was gonna be more fun. 😂
No cap
In the bathroom stall type shit
Dead
“You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world, and there's still going to be somebody who hates peaches.” - Dita Von Teese
Only if he or she is a gay peach, dumb or asexual.
Im the one that doesn’t like peaches.
That's copied off a Chris Rock joke
Well Marilyn Manson must hate peaches. He put Evan Rachel Wood ahead of her. What a fucking idiot! On Dita's worst day and on Evan's best day, she still couldn't hold a candle to that woman.
Facts
Dude spent 10 minutes just to say: hot means sex
Beautiful means marriage
He spend 10 minutes saying nothing because he seemed afraid to really tell the truth. So the comment section remains confused.
Men = fuck/marry anything hot or beautiful, they don't give a fuck as long as it's either of those and sometimes ugly does the job, but they don't marry ugly, has to be hot or beautiful. They marry ugly if they have no other choice.
And women marry anything into money and success. They don't marry beauty or hotness.
99% of men don't have the luxury to choose between the two. They have to choose someone with a half-attractive butt and a non-ugly face at best.
@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Yeah that was trying my patience too...
Bingo
found the nimrod under 30 section of the comments
This guy sounds like Heath Ledger’s Joker as a college professor.
Can't NOT hear it now lol
lol
I CAN'T "UN-HEAR" IT
Omg
Shit, you need more likes brotha.
Watching this and I turn to my BF and I was like babe, am I hot or beautiful? And he said it depends on the angle LMAO
Jason Young lmao
😂😂😂
Smart dude
Lol
Very true!!
I wish joe would stop him and randomly say “did you see that video of that Moose getting hit by a car?”
have you ever done DMT while riding a moose?
What are your thoughts on MMA vs Jiu Jitsu as an evolutionary biologist?
why is that so funny, lmfao.
🤣
Jamie pull that up...
This explains a lot. I've had crush over someone just for their looks and I've very gradually developed a crush over someone who I didn't even register as hot at first. They feel a lot different.
The second one hits different
Yes they are!!
@@Charger319 they sure do!
Yes this is what distinguishes my current gf to all other girls I've had crushes on. I had a crush on her ever since I was a kid, pre-puberty, and I could always feel it was much different than the others.
Same here , I had a crush on a guy with nice eyes and good facial features but wow … a brick had more personality than him
Hotness causes erection and beauty causes love and affection.
dropping bars
Thats some poetry of life you got there
@Luna Na.. next
Luna women dont separate the 2 . Men do
Beauty does too imo, but in a different way. I always tell my fiancee she gives me the coziest of boners because if we do get it on I'm totally invested in her pleasure as a result of her being a good person. The same could not be said about random hot women I encounter in my life.
Bruh we all turn into ugly raisins eventually anyway stay humble
😂😂😂
phoneflipp lmao
I have to disagree. If you exrecise and keep a healthy lifestyle, your raisin genes start to pop around 80 years old. Many 60 year olds that look younger than your average 30 year old.
@@kazziodex9561 it doesn't matter at the end. Your looks is not the end all be all.
Not all sadly...
This is why The Joe Rogan Show is as popular as it is. The quality of this discussion is sooo far beyond what you can get on any TV show, it is laughable.
Your comment is such a striking truth. It articulates what I've been feeling about the internet vs TV for years perfectly
You think laughable is the proper term there?
@@Azer1125 TV is good for shit like The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad. Thing is, this is like less than 1% of the total content that is on TV - so much of it is mindless drivel.
? I know TV doesn't usually bring the best exactly but this is not That high quality...
Most of this shit is pretentious stoner talk bullshit
A couple years ago my wife and I were at a family function(we are in our mid 30s with 3 little girls of our own). 2 of her distant cousins arrived who are both in their early 20s. 10lbs of makeup, fake lashes, fake nails, fake boobs, fake everything; but definitely a commanding presence in the restaurant. I can see it on my wife that she was flooded with insecurity in an instant. I reassured her that being a hot girl pales in comparison to being a beautiful woman. I think the perspective given in this video proved to be true in this instance because that statement visibly lifted her countenance.
My girlfriend has the same issue, she's not conventionally, stereotypically "hot", but she's incredibly cute and beautiful at the same time. Im always trying to tell her so, but she always feels insecure when she sees a woman that you'd consider hot I guess.
@@slothymango comparison is the thief of joy
It’s sad that their self esteem is dependent on bringing other beautiful women down.
You still called her cousins 'hot' though which would have done nothing for her insecurity.
Would have been better if you called them trashy or said they looked like transvestites.
@@Myview246 No, since it's disrespectful to bully people for their appearance to make yourself feel better. Insecurities shouldn't be solved by bringing other people down.
For me, "pretty" has more to do with physical attractiveness from the neck, up. "Hot" has more to do with physical attractiveness from the neck, down -- especially in regard to physical fitness. "Beauty," on the other hand, at least for me, has to do with attractiveness outside the realm of physical attraction, with some crossover into the physical forms.
Spot on.
ok fax
Nailed it
Best description. Beauty is the inner!
Faxx
You can hear this guy filtering every single sentence he utters holding to dear life in this outrage culture we live in... It is kind of sad to be honest
Jimm pathetic world we live in nowadays, people are disconnected from reality and dwell in a social media world
Clout Lord I was about to ask if you have been to college lately and remembered who was in this video after all..
And even if it was only an internet bizarre phenomenon this wouldn’t mean less since now social media madness and pressure can - and do - twist people’s image forever irl and even fire them.
Society’s integration with the internet is not something apart like it used to be, it’s now an extension of people’s lives with rules and laws that apply outside of it too, and an affront to speech here is not something you can just escape by disconnecting your modem anymore unfortunately.
That's not true, he's a scientist and all scientists do this. They all filter, it's what makes them come across very well and perceived to be intelligent (which they are)
Or...he's just thinking about what he's saying to make sense??
It's true. But he's broadly from the same ideology as the thought police. It's great to see these intellects coming over to the sensible side but they were part of the reason we ended up here.
Hot = hook-up
Beauty = life partner
@n cw While that might be true I think most people that cheat cheat because they are cheaters. Hence the phrase "how you got em is how you lose em". They will likely cheat on the hot girl too and cheat at a lot of things in life not just relationships, it's just a general character flaw they posses. If your partner cheats in games/school/business etc. Watch. Your. Back.
Another reason is because their chosen "life-partner" (the hot and beautiful one they married) is a prude. Which is why you'll come across stories of guys with beautiful smoking hot wives and not very attractive mistresses. The mistress actually puts out which was the whole point of having a hot wife in the first place.
@n cw they will gonna cheat anyway, look at those Hollywood hotties.. thier males cheated on them too..lol.. Actually guys don't know what they want..like women.
@@alicedoors4826 so what if they have the hot wife that's inside and out gorgeous? AND she's kinky? Why tf would he cheat then?
@@alicedoors4826 that explains my boy Arnold. He was fucking the ugly maid like he wasn't the Terminator
@@WillBlindYouWithLight because like they said it’s not about the other person and how much they can give, the cheater is just a cheater no matter how good the person is.
“Elegance is the only beauty that never fades.”
Amen 🙏
YES
@@bm5_5_5
Yes.
What's the male equivalent of elegance?
@@IsaacAsimov1992 Strength. This could be inner or outer strength. I feel like strong men have a higher capacity to love and be able to take care of others and that’s beautiful to me. Inner strength in particular is a fire that never goes out once you possess it.
@@bm5_5_5 Thanks, and that's a good answer.
Like a lot of things strength isn't so easy to define.
I know I'm strong in some ways but in other ways I consider myself weak.
....I’ve noticed my hubby says I’m “beautiful” when I have no makeup , hair in a bun and sweats on but says I’m “hot” whenever I wear makeup, my hair down and form fitting clothes....I’ve always noticed this, even when we were dating ,but never given it much thought until now
Anarchy Is Unstoppable holy fuck bro
Wow thi is o true!youve opened my m8nd to this. U taught a complete stranger something. Thanks
I personally think women look amazing when they have no makeup, hair all messy, and wearing pajama pants. To me for some reason, it's hot and beautiful.
@Anarchy Is Unstoppable what the fuck kinda women are you around that have sweat pants that smell like fish?
@@chefboiardeeznutz9881 All women smell like fishy fish.
Hotness makes you hard, beauty makes you weak
Okay, that was a perfect set of definitions.
Ooooh nice
Fucking true
Thats some wise words
Damnnn nice one! Agreed.
He has a very soothing voice. I want him to read Fight Club to me as a bedtime story.
Diana Woods sounds like Morgan Freeman and Keith ledger’s jokers love child lol
he sounds like a sociopath. look at con men interviews. no emotion in his voice.
@@ciarangrimes7912 Not to be confused with the famous painter Heath Ledger
Risav Sahu of course my friend that’s why I made the distinction 😂😂😂. But come on there are multiple famous jokers you do usually have to specify cut me some slack
Really? I find it grating on my nerves. The way he speaks irritates me
I think hotness is superficial, while beauty goes deeper. I've seen women as well as men who were hot, but not terribly interesting or bright. They might be good to look at, but would you want to try to have a deep and meaningful conversation about the mysteries of the universe with them if they could never get past their looks or what others thought of them? Beauty, on the other hand, involves more than just the physical appearance. It's how they carry themselves, how they can conduct a conversation, whether they had a dark sense of humor, and their personal code of helping others. True beauty, when cultivated effectively, I think gets better with age. It's something I wish more young women could realize, because then they could stop shooting for the unattainable goals of perfection and instead focus on doing the best they can with what they were born with.
True😊😊
Well said
Fantastic post. Such excellent points. I was thinking the conversation on the video was too black and white..not enough depth or nuance. Humans are way more complex. Men tend to compartmentalize too much. We are far more multifaceted. Putting women into just 2 categories is ridiculous and shallow.
You're mistaken In thinking that you can't be hot AF while also incredibly, interesting, intelligent and capable of profound levels of depth.
hot people exude sexual energy which doesn’t require intellectual conversations because their one goal is sex. whereas on the other hand beautiful people tend to be more conversationally inclined because they are aiming for marriage, which would mean a life of conversation
Historically a woman who is hot is seen as such because she loves her body and is uninhibited sexually. There is something intangible about true beauty that encompasses kindness and compassion. The combination of both is the pinnacle of femininity. Stop thinking its an either or. Be both.
Awesome comment Angela, and so true. Why shouldn't a woman be both!
I do it everyday. So i'd like to believe.
@@grannybemx6729 If you believe, therefore you are!
Manifestation 101 lol
As a single hetero male with some experience (57) I have always related hotness to individuality, compassion, intelligence, self sufficiency and determination. I always find the woman who doesn't need to be with me, but chooses to, to be the hottest. She also must have strength of character. Being readily available sexually is a bit of a turn off, however counter-intuitive that sounds. When I used to go to singles bars back in the day, I would always watch for the woman that would rebuff guys all night. She would be the one I would approach, and usually be able to flirt with successfully. I have met, and dated some very smart and discerning women that way. The women most men don't get to be with. THAT is hot! Usually a lot less drama as well, as they tend to be well grounded in themselves.
I chose the hot one, Now I miss the beautiful one.
It was a mistake.
someone tag his girlfriend lmao
You didn’t deserve her at the time. Wish her the best, better yourself and go find another beautiful lady. Just treat her right next time
@@CL-jw4ei Yeah, thanks!
The only thing you can do to honor that is to treat the next one right. Everyone’s makes mistakes, it’s what we do after the mistake that forms our character. Also.... that’s a big step, to admit where you have gone wrong. 💪🏽🖤 good for you man.
Mix dna
So to sum up...don't let the little head think for the big one
Lmao
Wise words.
OxyElite red pilled a bit?
OxyElite easy to say and difficult to do 🤕
Did you come up with that one? lol
It really means alot when you find a girl who is truly beautiful but can also be “hot” for you and only you. Something you’ll never want to let go
he just took the long division version of saying "beauty is on the inside".
But no one believes that saying...this video really explaines the proverb with real life connotations.
i stil couldnt fuk his co-worker.. she is neither hot or beautiful. im trying to find something attractive about her with his laws .
Depends what you mean. A woman with a great face can have a sterile physical persona, be almost invisible walking by while a woman who is average face but has some beautiful movement in her hips and a sensuous physical demeanour can stop conversations.
It's still an outward manifestation of inner qualities, but it's not purely internal. The prettier woman with no sexual physicality might need to be more active or do yoga or explore Latin dance or do something external like that. It's inside AND outside regardless how you look.
Character and feminine connectedness are sexy and desired traits that can be visually evident.
,🤐🤣🤣🤣
Actually he didn't. He said women who advertise hotness are sending a message that they are available for sex without the need for pregnancy.
Girls Locker room: omg Vanessa you’re soooo cute in those shorts
Boys Locker room:
This joke has gotten old now stop!
Kevin it was too perfect an opportunity
I thought it was 'grab em by the pussy'
The boys are cool. Most girls talk about other girls and guys they like with code names. But then again, my sample size is relatively small.
Why's there a girl in the locker room?
Same thing applies to men. A man can be classically handsome and physically fit, but if he doesn't carry himself with that 'certain something' and a little swagger he's just good looking and NOT sexy or as you say "hot".
spring kelly so TRUE
spring kelly absolutely
So true!! The hotness is really to do with who he actually is. I find a guy irresistible if he’s physically attractive AND he’s confident, kind, self assured. To me his looks don’t have to be 100% (though he can’t be “ugly” in my eyes) but the personality needs to be right for me to have any interest at all.
spring kelly !!!!!! Very
The amount of guys that don’t understand this is nuts. I got a lot of friends who I’d say are in physically better shape and are genetically better looking (I’m not bad looking but hardly a supermodel) but have no swagger, wit, confidence in themselves beyond just their physical appearance. The result is that I’ve struggled way less in basically all my interactions platonic or not with women. And funniest of all they’ve never had any sort of curiosity as to why that’s the case outside of remarking angrily that I don’t go to the gym so that doesn’t make sense lmao.
As a women who have suffered a lot with relationships. I want to thankyou for having this video in your channel. I'm trying to not focus on hotness anymore.
"males really have 3 reproductive strategies but the last one is so aweful that I dont even want to enter it into the discussion" (not even 0.2 seconds later) Joe Rogan: "You're talking about rape"
God damn it joe.
Joe was never one for subtlety. lmao
🤦♀️ 😆
I love Joe lol.
He didn’t say aweful
he had to say it because some people wouldn't pick it up
Joe “just move that sucker around, thank you” rogan
Lol I read this when he said it
Bob Ross same
Joe "Bitch speak up" Rogan
Haha...the way she grabbed that mic though...
same haha no u dumby
Hmm. This puts being told I was "the hottest girl in highschool" in a new light. An abusive childhood (aka "Daddy issues"), a giant chest and eating disorders, and I was considered bangable. These days, the pain of so many heart and body breaking events and the strength to overcome them and fight through.. I've been told I am beautiful and unattainable more times than I can remember. I think a large part of the difference between "hotness" and beauty is the factor of accessibility or attainability. I carry myself differently now. I look people in the eyes steadily, seriously and defiantly instead of briefly and coyly. Things can change over time. People change. Labels are transitory. Main thing to remember or build is respect of self.
I'm glad you evolved into someone strong and self-reliant. I think the world needs more women like you.
Well said.
Eating disorders are torture, you're very strong to get through that 🙏🏼
strranger nah you’re just a simp
@strranger Drop your nice guy act. Women don't owe you affection or attention just because you chose them. Stop girlfriendzoning women.
I think the whole set of experiences you've had with a person can overshadow their physical beauty/hotness quite quickly. If we set aside extreme outliers on both ends, average or somewhat close to average people can turn into either extremely attractive or repelling partners based on just their behaviors.
Wow you just wrote what I think since I am around 17 yo.
Perfectly said imo. It 100% correlates on how I see people 👌🏼
Do all evolutionary scientists talk in this calm voice?
Yes
I would assume so. They seem confident in their intelligence and dont seem to have the need to prove it.
I think it’s also great so when they share a their knowledge it also allows other to slowly rap their mind around the idea
@@lxrocha good point
@Coding in Flow Yo! Good to see you here. I watch your android tutorials.
Hot: Instant gratification
Beauty: Long-term happiness
This guy just wants you to understand the weight of his words. It’s fun to listen to a smart guy explain a stupid idea.
Hotness causes arousal and beauty causes commitment.
Beauty causes both.
Always get to know the person before having sex.. That way both know what you're looking for.
Interesting
can be angry arousal aswell
so the HOT female is jacked...hard to not get past the hotness to see the beauty and the hot female knows she has tremendous power. broadcasting hotness is the fashion design females use and most have NO CLUE the power of their body!
I seen an older women, 60+ that was truly beautiful. Perfect symmetry and bone structure. She had wrinkles and skin looked aged. Yet she was truly beautiful.
im not joking, this is the exact explanation my bf gave me when he cheated on me lol
Bruh
Mal Iy I’m worried by the fact you called him your bf and not your ex-bf lol
Dump him
Jesus, what an explanation.
PS: Fuck that guy. Hope he's your ex.
Lmao
I love it when intelligent people talk about something for 10 minutes that can instead be essentially described in a one sentence rap lyric.
Manny S 🙌
It was damn precise to me.
ha! awesome comment
Can't turn a hoe into a house wife
I’m attracted to fat hunks of crap. That’s my thing.
Hotness= eye candy
Beauty= attractiveness+child raising traits (kind, gentle)
And you got both ;)
“Child raising traits” um chief those are just human traits
sad cat I think we can agree that not all humans are able to take care of a child properly.
blk also everybody’s ideas of qualities and traits that are conducive to child raising is subjective.
Echo that’s fine. But if they were human traits.. every human would have them. Can’t generalize like that.
My two cents:
Hot = body, fitness, hair, makeup, cosmetic surgery, work done, tight clothes, projected confidence, risk taking excitement etc
Beautiful = inside and out, a caring empathetic personality, kindness, fitness/health as in looking after oneself, genetics that cannot be changed with any procedure, sense of style, good self esteem, self-respect, giving back to the world in one way or another
Cute = all about intellect, endearing qualities, uniqueness, personal interests etc and has nothing to do whatsoever with outside appearance
And all 3 makes you a triple threat guy (girl) 😂
Apart from the cute, it just seems the classic whore/madonna-dichotomy (look it up)
For me "hot" is someone with an amazing body and "beauty" is someone with an amazing face. The body generally doesn't age well, but the face can age quite gracefully.
Jana Vasić yes, this!
Arutemisu What I got from the discussion is that someone can have a beautiful face and still not beautiful. In this instance beauty means someone with a nice attitude some caring ...basically beauty is within.. if you find someone that is hot and beautiful (in the context of the discussion) you have hit the jackpot
How old are you? Genuinely asking, not being shady.
Love your pfp btw
Agreed but when it comes to beauty i think personality and grace have some thing to do with beauty
Idk if its just me but every time Joe tells someone to pull the microphone closer I could hear the person just fine already.
for this clips they use the sounds directly from the soundboard, mAybe the audio output for the podcast is different hence why he tells people to get closer to the mic.
you. can make a mic sound closer with a mixer but its easier to just tell the person to get closer
that's possible
The audio levels are being balanced on the fly by Jamie, so if someones audio levels suddenly drops he obviously signals to Joe to tell the guest to return to the previous position.
Otherwise if the guest suddenly returns to the previous position without Jamie returning the levels to where they were, the audio would peak and sound horrible.
i dont why they didn't do anything with the audio for john danaher podcast, i could hardly hear that guy.
Same
What makes someone beautiful: their face, their personality, their deeds.
What makes someone hot: the sun.
😂😂😂✨😜
Lol
deep thoughts
Well done.
💯
When someone say its beautiful - it tickles their visual senses like when u r looking at a painting.
When they say its hot - it tickles their sexual senses
Hotness is transient, Beauty is permanent
idk I've been watching the same porn for 60 years and I'm the only one getting ugly and liver failure
Says who? Not.
How is beauty perm also you can control hotness but not beauty , you can change your body but not your face
accurate
I like to think of Beauty as eternal or infinite
My ex husband once told me
“The night I met you at that party you were the hottest woman there by far.... but a week later when I came to pick you up for our first date I realized that you were beautiful”......I told him it made no sense and he explained it to me by saying “Hot is from the neck down, and Beauty is from the neck up”....take it for what you will but it sort of made sense to me at the time.
Why is he EX
Yeah why ex?
Because our marriage fell apart after our son passed away. Stop assuming every divorce is “because someone did something wrong”....
@@nadiadelphi6850 oh that's sad.. I'm sorry..
Nadia Delphi I’m very sorry that happened. I didn’t assume that someone did something wrong. Hope you’re doing well. ❤️
my husband says I'm cute. I'll take what I can get.
Lmao what an Incel. Dude has no idea what he's talking about
Lmaooo
@@corncobjohnsonreal what, id take the compliment 'beautiful' over 'cute' any day
dude...same
Adreana Falkner you’re the sort of cancer fracturing modern relationships. Breaking up with someone over the word cute. How mature
The bible first wrote this that beauty is fleeting but a godly woman is what is to be sought.
*hesitates* “...I’ve been robbed of every useful term... They’ve been triggered...” 😂😂😂
So true it's funny
I don’t really get it, was he trying to use euphemism ?
The term 'triggered' has been hijacked by certain groups and now is seen as a political word, as opposed to its dictionary definition, so he feels he can't just use it freely any more
DOLLY ZOOM It’s also a word used by conspiracy theorists recently. It has to do with mind control triggers.
When I was 19 I went out with a guy. He did not call after that but after a couple of months I heard that he described me as „the kind of girl you marry“. I was young, stupid and quite self-conscious, so I did not understand that it was actually a big compliment. I guess I wanted to be hot and not beautiful to men at 19. Now at 35 I see clearly that being beautiful is the better way to go long-term. Human babies are indeed extremely needy 😊
@Shoaib Sheikh did she ever hit you up?
@Shoaib Sheikh bro wtf . This is UA-cam not tinder
Honest question, how would you react to being told you would be a great mom? I sometimes thought that about a girlfriend, but I think it might sound silly or wrong. (I'm not into kids at all, even when I was with her). Would you take it as a compliment? something weird? creepy?
@@canobenitez actually, my friends used to tell me this all the time and it used to really bother me. but honestly when people tell me that now, i view it as a complement. it feels more genuine.
@@canobenitez I dnt kmow about other girls, but I see it as a big compliment
Woman talks like shes trying not to wake up someone sleeping under joes desk
Hahahahahahha
Lmfao
But I love it though, I wonder if that's her natural tone, something about it I find really appealing
I didn't like her interrupting. She added nothing.
Lol
As a young 20 year old woman, I’m so glad I saw this video and read some lovely comments. I’m very shy and I’m very to myself a lot of people tell me I’m pretty but I never believe it because I have fiends who attract guys like magnets because they have phenomenal bodies and are an open book but I have never had a boy find me attractive or let it be known to me and sometimes it makes me very insecure but I know I’m a great girl and will find the the right one one day ☺️
I'm sure you will good luck :)
I think I may be the male version of you. I feel the same way about my situation
If you want to understand real gender dynamics, check out Edward Dutton or else Stefan Molyneux at Freedomain on Odysee. They are trying to address r/K theory in this video, but failing badly and sending mixed messages because of the nonsense opener of choosing between hotness and beauty. Another good one UA-cam is Jennifer Moleski.
I felt the same way when I was your age. I felt very insecure about myself. The thing that changed my life was going to University. I studied dentistry and it automatically boosted my self-esteem like crazyyyy. I felt so confident and proud in myself. I made good money and money also helps boosting your confidence. I also started going regularly to gym and my life really changed. As you get more confident in yourself, you exude that energy of demanding respect and being praised (may sound egotistic). Try doing something in life that will add to your value outside of the physical. attractiveness is mental as well. For me education made the trick. Try figuring out your life path and that will automatically boost your self esteem :)
@@Yasi_nzi thank you for the very good advice! I will definitely try working on myself Tysm ❤️
I know a lot of married 7’s and single 10’s
Sometimes its just a personality thing
Introduce meh to the single 10's?
I've met a few 10's who open their mouths and become 3's
10s on the outside or on the inside?
@@dmac26official that's typically how it'll go
I was so captivated in what these two were saying until Joe broke the flow of the conversation with the microphone. We hear her just fine.
Yeah! I found that excruciating. It took the floor out from under her especially since I’d had no rouble hearing her at all. I wanted to punch Joe for the power play
That was such a fucking dick move on Rogan’s part.
He was bored of her... So obvious
Her body language continually reflected his looming over her - as she turned slightly away all the while, he took his leadership lack of tact and directed it at her.
Yeah that was dumb
kinda getting some asmr vibes from the way they're talking LMAO
samantha cho to me it sounds like everyone has testicles and they’re being threateningly squeezed as they talk
Marlenet777 well that’s a different more anxiety inducing perspective lmfao
And I still can't believe UA-cam deleted the complete show of Joe Rogan with these two awsome human beings.
I always thought my grandma was beautiful but certainly not hot. She was beautiful in an elegant way sort of like a queen.
🤣🤣🤣
I’d hope you wouldn’t find your grandmother hot 😂💀
Ewwww, you fancy your grandma!? Ewwwwwwwwww.
jk.
Ew.
My dads mom was a gorgeous human being, and hell yes she passed on some of her looks. I loved her beautiful eyes and expression, so French.
Or be neither
Women often become more beautiful after their 20s. They should know that and hopefully feel better. Also quirky women with some interesting features are way more beautiful than a robotic appearance.
Huh? A women's prime is from 18-30 tops.
@@paulj9821 well I said after 20s. You said to 30. But 30s easily better than 20s except for fake Barbie doll look tricking some guys with little taste.
@@samuelmay4823 I mean technically it's 14+ till 28. I just rounded it to 30 cause some people might take it the wrong way.
@@paulj9821 14???????
@@samuelmay4823 see
When I picture hotness I just see a curvy, fertile, nubile body. When I picture beauty I see an aesthetically pleasing face. I don’t really think hotness necessarily equates sluttiness in my mind.
Def agree, but a few things. First off your first sentence was perfect. But in hotness I still do need something alluring from the face. Even something like the smile, or eyes, complexion etc...You also have to put hotness in the same category as sexy then basically. That is what the initial, hormone freak self is feeling, at least that's how I feel.
M0ebius bro what's nubile lol
Natural all natural White pistachio nut Young and attractive.
Someone you would want to marry
Natural all natural White pistachio nut nubile is perky and young-looking
This guy speaks the truth. Being beautiful is not the same with being hot.
I could be wrong, but I always saw hotness as superficial/sexual attraction. Beauty is something that radiates from the person and is timeless. You can see it in their eyes and in their smile.
2 years later, but I agree with you. Hot women are women I appreciate for how they make me feel down there, but beautiful women I appreciate for how they make me feel up there. I hope that makes sense. lol
i Like how she interrupted in such a classy way
The reason why ‘hot’ girls are sometimes seen as more attractive than beautiful girls is the ‘hot’ girls truly only care about appearance so, they invest all their time, money and energy into being more physically attractive.
Beautiful women still are competent when it comes to their looks. They take good care of themselves too. However, they also spend time investing in their education, family, friends and passions. They seem to have untapped physical potential and people wonder why they haven’t utilized it. They’ve spent that time elsewhere.
Alexander Stewart beautiful women just have more to offer, in my opinion. they don’t rely on their looks because they have other shit going for them. the biggest tragedy to me is a “hot” girl who’s a total ice queen who’s afraid of being funny or silly because she MUST look hot and serious at all times...that’s so dry and boring.
It has nothing to do with attraction. Beautiful or hot, we still want to fuck. The difference is what happens after. Commitment, or contempt?
A hot woman can have more to offer than just her hotness. Also putting a lot of time into how you look doesn’t mean you invest all your time in it. Like I care very much about how I look when I go out but it doesn’t mean I do that all day long and I don’t know anybody who does.
Alexander that is a generalization I would not make
Love how you said this.
"....not searching for them in the same individual." This last small statement right there holds so much truth. The concept of what men want for their wife (aka the Beauty), and then if they can find the woman they can do all those things to, that they would never do with the mother of their children, this is the Mistress (aka Hotness). However, I do believe women get these persona's confused when trying to attract a man.
Attraction is so subjective. Not everyone is going to find the same characteristics Beautiful or Hot. This was an interesting discussion.
Discussing complex human emotions did not form any part of his argument. He talked about beauty, hotness and needy babies. I almost feel it would be better to talk about human reproduction in terms of love and lust. You can feel lustful towards the person you are in love with, but not necessarily be in love with a person you feel lustful towards.
But emotions are all built on evolutionary grounds.
@@Shinkajoyes but he didn't really discuss that
Maybe we need to see the whole video discussion? It has to be posted.
Charlie D. He’s an evolutionary biologist, he knows what he’s talking about
Thats EXACTLY what he was talking bout lol
This is why I get uncomfortable when someone calls me sexy.
I made sure to report him. You’re beautiful 🖤
That_one _guy thanks I suddenly felt better.
TipTheScales27 thank you it’s okay. It’s the internet. I may not be everyone’s cup of tea but I’m someone’s morning coffee. :-)
Lunar Dee I still think it’s bullshit that some random person would say something like that and not have to suffer any consequences. I bet he wouldn’t have the balls to say it to someone’s face like that. And I’m confused why he said it in the first place. Your profile pic isn’t even an inch yet your skin is still glowing through the screen. I wish I looked half as good as you lol
TipTheScales27 I’m sure if he saw me he would call me beautiful to my face and try and get my number if my presence didn’t intimidate him already.
Thank for you standing up for me xxx 😘
this dudes voice is more relaxing than any ASMR video
Dude you're so right. I wanna see him make an ASMR channel, get one of those ear microphones and like fart into a pillow then scratch at it with this nails
for real though
Hotness can be temporarily bought. Makeup, outfit, age, fitness.
Beauty is innate.
But, I think that they could be together too..!
"we've been robbed of every useful term" HAHAHA yes
Lmao I was listening to this part and then turned to look at my screen and this commment was the first thing I saw, crazy coincidence
Actively hunted for this comment!
I've been saying that for years and I'm a liberal academic type.
Joe "Even if it dosen't work it'll work" Rogan
These Joe “dah dah dah whatever” Rogan things are really obnoxious. Stop doing it. It’s innapro pro
Joe "these joe "dah dah dah whatever" rogan things are realy obnoxious. Stop doing it. It's innapro pro" Rogan
I said stop it.
Joey J No
Silly Optimism haha
“One of them is so awful to even enter into the discussion.”
Joe Rogan: “ You talking about *rape* “
Right. Hotness is glaringly-appealing, head-turning physicality. And this can be subject to one's taste but it is almost always about the objectified person's proportions, vocal timbre, age. All things primally desired in a "mate." Beauty, however, though one might often ruminate on a person's physicality, it is with much more nuance and consideration. With someone beautiful, your first impulse isn't to seed or be seeded (though this may be your second or inevitable impulse) but to luxuriate in their features, lean into them, catch the way the nearest light source illuminates their eyes, their lips, both matching preternaturally perfect in hue with their un-painted skin. Hot is a young, 1995 Yasmine Bleeth. Beautiful is the singular visage of Isabelle Huppert. (add. Our celebrities, namely, actors and models, are hard to equivocate between hot and beautiful by virtue of their being. They are celebrities because they typically exemplify either both labels or begin hot and transition to being beautiful. We should all be so lucky.)
I think “hotness” is measured through physical aesthetics while beauty is skin deep, it’s about the soul. Hot is for lust while beauty is for love.
I love this, so true
That's not what skin deep means
👏💯👏
This is the absolute worst attempt at someone using a phrase (elementary one at that!) and having NO CLUE what it even means LMFAO. 🤦🏽♂️
Somehow, beauty is ignored from age 18 to 50. The amount of fake beauty masquerading itself as true beauty is scary. Really, is it needed to wear so much make up on your face thinking you can bed any guy you want??
Women used to cover up their "hotness" traditionally for that reason
So Islam was into something..?
Yeah. Islam as well as the two other Abrahamic religions. Nuns as you know also wear modest clothing. Orthodox jewish women also wear modest clothing. A head scarf was globally widespread until very recent times.
Women are forced to cover up. What's hotness to someone is normal to other
@@أحمدقاضي-ذ7غ LMFAO 🤣🤣😭😭😭
Wait...chicken or egg. He says its obvious which came first.
Cliffhanger!
I was always so hard on myself to get the perfect “hot body” seen on so many fitness models on Instagram. After watching this I realized that I would always be complimented by other as beautiful, and not as hot. Watching this has made me feel so much better about myself.
If that's you in your picture, I can honestly say, that as long as your face goes accompanied with kindness and femininity, you are really beautiful. And I don't have low standards, so don't worry about it :)
Chris Inderkum thank you 😊
Natalie Portman: Beautiful
Juliette Lewis: Hot
Monica Belluci: Both
youre d umb
@@unnaturalatrophy8073 47 likes an 0 dislikes. Is it your brain that has ATROPHIED?
@@tigre9271 your dumb indeed
@@aninussdingdong1897 Ok, DING DONG...lol!
Juliette Lewis? She has a giant forehead and looks funny. I’d say Megan fox as the hot one.
Hotness is a measure of reproductive value, therefore youthness and fitness are hot
Beauty is a measure of aesthetics, there are even beautiful trees, rocks, etc, you can loose your youthness but keep being beautiful since it's about the symmetry and harmony of your body
"Kawaii on the Streets, Hentai in the Sheets"
See. Both 😉
Get out!
Eeeeek!!!! Do not look hentai up at work like I just did. OMG! Now I'm going to get fired. =-(
@@ItzReelOutdoorz the fact you use the internet and only just found out what hentai is remarkable. I am sorry that you have now lost your purity
This is hilarious and I love it
LoL
I *know* Im ugly so idk why I’m here
Stop
What Heather said ^ you're a gem!
Same 😂
Y'all gotta stop
Yea gtfoh ugly
As a woman gets older being told she is "hot" becomes an insult. It's an immediate turn off.
Agreed. It begins exactly that moment when you stop trying to validate yourself by the amount of sexual attention you get from guys. Because we all know how long it lasts for. I wish we teach our daughters this. :)
1.25 speed for normal speaking, .75 for baked as f
Been doing 1.5X since youtube made the option, lol.
Thanks. He was putting me to sleep. This works.
Officially the best comment I have ever seen.
2x master race
1.5 asfasgvadgbasbsav
Joe “you gotta pull this thing closer to you” Rogan
lmao
@Penny miller Since women are HALF the population there is no need to be paranoid about people type casting you based on one random lady on youtube. Everyone knows woman come in many shapes, colors, intellectual levels, and have many different personality quakes. I hope you also realize that.
@Penny miller 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@amelist8123 As my good friend Amanda Bynes would say: "Are we all high here?"
He does it as a power move since she keeps interrupting annoyingly
I feel like a girl being hot is just you being sexually attracted to her. But her being beautiful is involves being attracted to her mentally and physically.
True. He overcomplicates it
Smell is a big part of it, pheromones, have you noticed someone's natural smell? There's a biochemical element that he could mention. As an old chick I can look back on dating and link natural smells of dudes (skin on neck/chest) to true longevity/lasting attraction. I could literally smell when someone wasn't right for me, but usually ignored because they were throwing flowers and crap and awesome romantic gestures and positive attention is attractive, too. :)
This makes a lot of sense. All the guys I’ve dated tell me I’m beautiful and would want to be in a committed relationship with me but aren’t ready. I respect the honesty because no one gave the goods. Mutual respect and go our different ways🤝
"Hotness" is why I watch Telemundo even though I can't speak Mexican.
Uncle Tony 😂
Rodrigo Lima dont you mean Portuguese not Brazilian
Mexican A.k.a. Spanish?
Uncle Tony that’s too much lol
Most Telemundo shows are not even Mexican, except the narco ones
Beauty is classic good looks, in my opinion. They would look beautiful buying groceries... it doesn’t matter. Hotness is good looks that are then heavily sexualized.
I just finished watching a Netflix series called “Too Hot to Handle” and I now understand why so many men are attracted to a contestant in there named Francesca Farango. From a woman’s perspective, I didn’t find her beautiful. Her face was certainly not beautiful to me. But the men went crazy over her and I can see now it’s because her body is very very hot. She is the “hot girl”
Why do you watch that delusional bullshit?
PMOL QRCD I’m a housewife lol
Francesca wasn't hot to me. I thought the irish girl was. Never understood the mass appeal of Francesca. She had no personality no banter.
Nah I don’t know many who like plastic boobs and lip jobs
Celeste Aurigue I just googled her. I’m a guy and hell no, she’s not attractive. Very fake looking
Biggest lie joe Rogen has ever told “I hate to interrupt you” 🤣🤣
Beauty is seen on a soul level, whilst “Hottness” is seen on the surface.
Wtf is with people thinking beauty is in the inside. No, it isn't, all you gotta do is look at a person's face.
@@MankeyMark lmfao, that's so rude.
Love it.
A woman who is beautiful but not hot: my grandmother.
A woman who is hot but not beautiful: Kim Kardashian
Mate she is plastic and ugly to me at least
Before the excess plastic surgery
You mean Kim Photoshop
Kim is neither
Hotness are what makes me wake up with morning wood. Beauty is what makes me wake up and cry.
oh my :o
Cringe
@@TheAcdcnz ur cringe Mr. CEO of cringe inc.
@@royaltheoneroyalone3498 how rude
Hahaha
It’s pretty funny when I was watching this I realized my definition of hotness and beauty is reversed from how they describe it. I believe this is probably because how young people now describe actions and other such things as hot, whereas beauty is mainly a physical attributes for at least myself. It was pretty crazy to see just how perfectly my definitions of these 2 words were mirrored.
This is so funny because I JUST said above to a younger guy I am sure-I think you’re mixing up “hot” as they mean it with “beauty.” Beauty in my generation (I’m 44) is what guys married, hit us what they just eff.
The lady’s voice is so soothing
No...
The Office has a whole episode about this. They nailed btw.
What’s the name or number of the episode?
@@florencianataliax season 5 12
go to the doctors, cant believe you watched that trash
Bret: "the I idea is so awful we shouldn't even bring it up at all"
Joe: "You're talking about rape"?
💀💀💀 Joe really just ignored his avoidance of the topic.
That was hilarious 😂 I appreciated that. This is Joe's podcast after all. If he wants to clarify something his guest said rather than let his guests have to guess/assume what the guest was saying, that's awesome. And also fux cancel culture
@@LOLforLIFE123 that’s true
Joe making the conversation much better when he shows he really listens and understands his guests
there is a certain point where pretty becomes almost unnatural looking, so someone that might be a 6/10 to someone else is 10/10 in my book
For me 8/10 -> 10/10 when I realize I truly love her.
"HOTNESS" is about the EFFECT beauty has on a person. Her beauty makes the "blood boil" is to what that expression is referring. In other words, SHE is not hot, SHE makes YOU hot.
Hotness is a unit to measure attractiveness which is raised by improving body composition while enhancing specific muscles and also maintaining healthy skin and hair.
Not everyone is beautiFUL but anyone can be HoT.
socialization plays a huge role in how we perceive beauty so let's not forget how much of our ideas around beauty are also based on decades of motivated media representation
Abby Mohler 100% correct. It’s very interesting when you look at the history of Gillette Razors & L’Oreal. They were a massive influence in getting people to feel the need to look “prettier” or feel “cleaner” by using their products. The media has also helped build complete social mind constructs that warp a lot of perception of what is, or is not “beauty” recognized today in the Western world.
Idk about that. I see hot chick with a big ass and know I wanna smash. I don’t need a tv to tell me that lol
@@SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77 agreed 100%
@3,14 _ All true, except that big breasts have nothing to do with milk production. Small breasts have the same milk ducts and make the same amount of milk as large ones. The current obsession and fetishization of large breasts (especially unnaturally large ones on slender women) is a fairly new and unhealthy phenomenon that seems to have been formed by the porn industry.
Abby Mohler you are beautiful
I think I’m at hotter at 40 than I was in my 20s or 30s…because I own my sexuality more and care less about external validation