THRUSTMASTER T3PA DIY LOAD CELL MOD, CHEAP MOD UNDER £25 FOR CONSOLE AND PC
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2020
- Leo Bodnar load cell amplifier..
www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.p...
Load cell sensor
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363063406336
Rubber Buffer
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223700384876
JST-XH lead
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142565190820
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Great video and info ... I will be doing the mod as soon as the loadcell and amp arrive ... thanks again for the info ...
I did this exact mod to my pedals, changed everything for me!
thanks for this very easy, apart from on my t150 it seems that red wire is ground and black is live??, i just couldnt get it to recognize the LC until i saw another thread on irst, so i flipped the plug that goes into the amp, and it works😊
I’ve ordered the parts so I can this on my T3PA PRO pedals. The conical brake mod bracket is different on the T3PA PRO so I’m going to rig up some sort of mount to get it working. Thank you for the video. 🤙
Awesome.. Takes a bit of getting used to but definitely worth it.. Hope it goes well mate.
@@RobbofpvGaming I just finished with the mod and I'm really happy with how it turned out: revolutionsimracing.com/threads/t3pa-loadcell-upgrade-diy-guide.1588/page-2
Awesome mate, I'll have a look now..
Fantastic mate, have you done any laps yet?
@@RobbofpvGaming I gone on shuto in assetto corsa for a quick run and i like it more than the standard conical mod already but I still need some time to adjust
Wondering if you can help me , installed everything but without touching the load cell it says I have 100% brake pressure. Even if I press the brake it stays at 100%?
I didn't have to replace the amp just reversed polarity and it all works fine now looks like it's going to work well thanks a lot mate
Aahh good stuff mate, glad you got there in the end.. I do remember seeing variations of wiring when I was researching.. Glad nothings damaged.
@Peter Williamson hey what are you using for this upgrade? i have hx711 board and t3pa pedals
@@BorisSchmidt you need the Leo Barnard centre sensor as well
it needs to be pressed very hard, has anyone tried 10kg celle?
at 100% brake (acc) my palyseat is lifted off the ground.
Just to let you know I've worked out my mind is not working my 3 TPA pedals the red wire is negative and the black wire is positive the opposite from your description so anyone doing this should check with a multimeter first just reordering amp now fingers crossed
I bought my pedal set used, and there was no conical brake mod. Anyone know how to make one? I can do this mod cuz i dont have the brake mod 😢
Hi brilliant work thank you so much for taking the time to do this. One question! Could you please tell me what size of rubber buffer I need off ebay as there are a lot of different sizes. Many thanks Stu
Hi mate, the rubber buffer is an M4, 10 x 10 here's the link to the one I used www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BUFFER-Rubber-Mount-Anti-Vibration-STOPS-Male-ALL-SIZE-M6-M8-M10-M12-M16-D-/223700384876?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
I also got this spring after and cut it in half and seated it over the rubber buffer to make light braking a bit easier.. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COMPRESSION-SPRING-Wire-Diameter-1-5mm-P-/114210854495?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 it's the "P9" option and just needs cutting to length. Thanks for watching bud and good luck with it.
Awesome thank you so much, can't wait
Great video. I’m going to do this mod. However I will drill and tap for a larger rubber mount. M6 15x20mm. Thoughts on this?
Yeah the rubber mount could be made better.. I ended up getting a spring with the same diameter and fitting it round the rubber mount to strengthen it and give me some low pressure braking..
Hi there! This is such an amazing video. I would like to give it a go but I am struggling to find that kind of amplifier. I can only find the HX711 amplifier. Do you reckon it will work too? Thanks a lot.
Hi mate, I couldn't find any info on the HX711 amplifier so I stuck with the leo bodnar.
So I'm thinking if doing something similar to DFGT pedals, will the braking force required damage the pedals, considering DFGT pedals are plastic rather than metal?
I can't answer for sure mate but the thrustmaster Pedals are plastic too.
Only advise I can give, is avoid spraying any wd40 on spueaky Pedals as it makes the plastic brittle and more likely to break.
Nice! Does it still working? How is the calibration? You have to press the pedal 2 or 3 times after power on like the original?
Still works perfect mate, I use it for league races every week and can't imagine not having it now and yes, calibration is exactly the same, just apply what you want full pressure braking to be and you're calibrated.
@@RobbofpvGaming Thank you for reply! I am waiting Leo Bodnar amplifier comes and I will make it here. Maybe my lap times comes...
hi have purchaced all the parts i need just one question do you need to program the board or is the amplifier pre programed
thanks in advance
Hi mate, nothing needs programming at all, everything is literally just plug and play.
Is crimping a must, or are there cables that already have both head types?
Hi mate. You might be able to source the right cables with the right plugs but as this was the first one of these I had done, I made my own to make sure the wiring was in the right order.
Am I right in thinking that the pedal movement made just before making contact with the load cell won’t register as braking? Is it only once the load cell and pedal arm meet
That is correct mate. What I've done since making this video is cut a spring to fit behind the pedal and around the rubber stopper so I get light pressure on the brakes when needed and still get full pressure when needed. Hope that made sense.
@@RobbofpvGaming Is that stopper part of the kit? Or can you mount any sort of stopper, would it be better to just have a bigger slightly softer one that touches the pedal when at 0% braking?
Hello, congratulations on your work, I was wondering, if the same procedure can also be used for the G25 / G27? By connecting LeoBodnard directly to the G25 potentiometer wires! See you soon
Hi mate, I'm not sure to be honest but definitely worth doing some research..
@@RobbofpvGaming Hello, very fast response, great, what do you say, can we test? Do you have any way of knowing if it might work? Thanks
I'll look into it but I haven't got any logitech wheels to test it on.
Almost sure it will work as it will output the same signal as a potentiometer i guess.
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what size load cell are we looking for ? the one u posted says not avaliable for me the page itself lol
like a 20 k is what most are 20k is not much to push with your leg
I really liked the video but do you really notice the change? Or better to invest in better ones like TLCM? Thanks.
On the other hand, I've been researching to do this to mine and I've seen three people using Leo Bodnar's amp, but does it have to be this one? Stores also sell other amps but they are not the same. Thanks for the possible clarification to the doubt. Greetings and good video.
Thanks mate.. I can't compare to the tlcm Pedals as I haven't tried them but I can confirm that, after a period of getting used to how hard you have to brake (as you would in real life) my braking consistency and technique has hugely improved. If you've ever thought "how can I shave off a few tenths here and few tenths there" it won't come straight away with this system but it definitely opens up options with braking techniques.
As for the amplifier, I can't give you any kind of definitive answer with that I'm afraid.
ad623 board is an alternative
One question, do you know if its required to use the Leo Bodnar amplifier or can you use any other brand?
Shipping is more than the product itself, so i'm looking for an alternative!
I'm not sure if I'm honest mate, a bit of research might help you but I just used what was recommended.
@@RobbofpvGaming thanks anyway man! The things i hear is that it should be done with the Leo, will cost me around 60 for that alone.. 😅
@@Nickinatorz nightmare mate, I take it you're not in Europe..? Shipping costs are a nightmare.. Why can't everything be done by amazon.. 😂
@@RobbofpvGaming no im in Europe which makes it even worse! Fucking taxes haha
Nice video ... any clue where i can find " JST-XH lead " ? Thank you !!!
Amazon or eBay will probably be your best bet.
the link for the loadcell is not working have you by any chance got another one another link
Hi mate, I've not had chance to put another link up yet but all you're looking for is a 20kg load cell. If I get chance later, I'll link another one.
thanks for the quick reply I found another one on ebay
@@peterwilliamson4957 that's great.. Good luck with it. 😉
thanks I found another loadcell just one question does it make it better
It does take a bit of getting used to but once you've practiced a bit, the muscle memory makes your braking much more consistent.
Thanks man bit the bullet and ordered everything
ebay links invalid :(
Hi I don't know if you can help load cell I ordered was an HX 711 did all the work and put it together today but got no nothing back it's just not working I don't know if I've got the wrong loadcell or not if you could help that would be great
Did you hook it up through the leo bodnar amplifier?
@@RobbofpvGaming no I wired it up just as you did in the video by the way it was a 2 S balance leads I do fbv as well
Sorry to be a pest but if you could let me know what loadcell you ordered I will try and find it on the internet maybe this one just doesn't work thanks alot
I didn't use the HX711 board, I used the leo bodnar amplifier that's listed in the description.. I'll find the same load cell now mate.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224246120591
Do these modifications work for console models as well ?
Yes, I use this on ps4.
@@RobbofpvGaming does the ps4 reads it as a mechanical mod or computerized mod ? I’m about to get a t300 rs gt with the t3pa pedal gt edition and thinking about getting this done but I’m on ps4
@@Amolakms95 how did you go what did you get?
very cool! does it works good?
It works brilliant mate, it took me a couple of races to get used to it but my braking is much more consistent now.
I need to do a follow up video really but it allows you to brake a bit later and rotate the car towards the apex better while trail braking.. I'd definitely recommend it mate.
sorry to be a pest no I would it up e.... the internet thank you for your help
I cant buy Leo Bodnar LC AMP, What its the alternative? I dont found it other LC AMP what do the same that Leo bodnar. Im from Spain, and Leo Bodnar now cant do enable airmail because Brexit. I need help. Thanks.
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Buenas! Yo estoy en las mismas. Sólo encuentro el amplificador HX711. Has encontrado una alternativa? Gracias
@@rialfe7514 Hola, averiguaste algo? Yo estoy investigando ahora mismo.
@@rialfe7514 Las características del HX711 observo que son las mismas que el de Leo:
Módulo utiliza 24 chip convertidor A/D de alta precisión hx711. Es un diseño especialmente diseñado para el diseño de escala electrónica de alta precisión con dos canales de entrada analógica la integración interna de 128 veces el amplificador de ganancia programable. El circuito de entrada se puede configurar para proporcionar un puente de presión tipo puente (como el modo sensor de pesaje de presión) es de alta precisiónbajo costo es un módulo front-end ideal de muestreo.
Control digital simple e interfaz serie: controles impulsados por pinesno necesita programación
Velocidad de datos de salida seleccionable 10SPS o 80SPS
Rechazo simultáneo de suministro de 50 y 60Hz
Consumo de corriente incluido el regulador de la fuente de alimentación analógica en el chip: funcionamiento normal < 1,5 mA de potencia abajo < 1uA
Módulo HX711 AD
Características:
Dos canales de entrada diferenciales seleccionables
PGA activa de bajo ruido en chip con ganancia seleccionable de 3264 y 128
Regulador de la fuente de alimentación en chip para pila de carga y fuente de alimentación analógica ADC
Oscilador en chip que no requiere componente externo con cristal externo opcional
Encendido en chip
Rango de voltaje de alimentación de funcionamiento: 2.6 - 5.5 V.
Rango de temperatura de funcionamiento: -20 grados a +85 grados.
@@Darchful Nada, al final lo dejé pasar...si al final lo intentas avísame. Un saludo
im doing this and rumble pedals lol
At my pedals, it doesn't work... The amplifier is getting hot... And after that, my wheel base doesn't work anymore... It's defekt no.... What did I I wrong???????
Swap green/white wire coming from load cell wiring.
I don't need it anymore... I've got fanatec now 😅
@@mv_simracing (t3pm+LC mod=CSL lite)
I did my t3pas ad623 LC mod for $10 (excluding the solder cost). I don't use the phrase "night and day difference" often. You can never go back to non-LC input though, be warned. It's like power steering vs having no power steering pump.
(And correction: if amp gets hot, then 3.3v (black) and ground (red) Fanatec wiring😖 needs to be switched on the board. If you never get pedal input either green/white from load cell needs to be switched and/or the potentiometer screw needs to be adjusted on the ad623 board)
Hi, is there any problems with the voltage being different
No problems at all mate, been using mine weekly for about a year now and all works perfectly.
@@RobbofpvGaming that's good to hear. I've just ordered the parts you linked. I've done the magnetic shifter paddles mod where you remove the spring's inside and it give it a nice strong chunky feel with the magnets I used. I can send a like if you want to do it
@@iceman1st1 that's not something I've looked into much but yeah, I'll check it out.. Thanks man. 😉 👊
@@RobbofpvGaming here's a link to the magnets I got. I got 10 and used 5 on each side.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N52-25x10x3-mm-Neodymium-Magnet-Thin-Block-Bar-Magnet-/322273506708?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
Thanks for making this detailed video, really appreciate it 💯👊🏻
@@RobbofpvGaming I've got all the parts now, but I can seem to find the metal mount anywhere. If it's not too much trouble could measure yours so I can make my own please bud
can you do this on the throttle as well?
Probably not a good idea for the throttle, these work off pressure so there's barely any movement on the pedal where as the throttle requires more resolution in movement for control.
@@RobbofpvGaming i tried this mod and i am not sure if i had the load cell wired right to the amp,also to the pedal pc board
@@MrBobchiz1 does it work at all? You have to brake with quite a lot of force.
@@RobbofpvGaming no not at all.I think the color code in the peddles is what's messing with me.
No potentiometers - H.A.L.L sensors, these are magnetic.
T3pa=pots. T3pm=magnetic/hall sensor
Sorry text to talk does not work that well