As an old bullet swager, I've been using these tools for well over 40 years on jacketed pistol and rifle bullets I make. I almost never see anyone swaging bullets anymore, so I am glad to see someone who has this CH tool. They do work better when mounted on the bench via small board and C-clamps, for that keeps the bullets from walking.
LEE makes a collet crimp die for 44 magnum...it beats the heck out of using a cannelure tool as far as time saving goes. If the brass is the correct length before crimping it doesn't hurt the brass either, but you will see that ring around the mouth of the case.
Yep. I have both collet and taper crimp dies for 44. I just chose to give this tool a run this time. Thanks for watching, and taking time to leave a valuable comment! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That's exactly where I found one, at a local gunshow, about 5 years ago, if you can find one then buy it, they are really pricey tools and they work well. I've used mine on bullets and also on cases.
@@HobbiesHobo hiya, Hobo. I used it once on some cases for a lever gun where I felt the need to help keep bullets from getting set back. But then I determined that I didn’t want to permanently disfigure the cases, and just used cast bullets with good crimp grooves. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a I no longer use it on cases, no real need. Colored sharpie works without marking the case up. I wasn't using it to prevent setback, just to mark "My" cases. Works great on some bullets though.
It’s an interesting piece to have in your arsenal, for sure. I’ve never tried it on plated bullets, but I have some that I may put to the test. Thanks for checking in, GGW! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
The screws are original to the tool. I have one I just got "used", but it's new old stock still in the box with paperwork. Screws are identical. I'm here to see how to use it! The only jacketed bullets available for .30 Luger have no cannelure.
Does the tool cause a "slump" in the bullet, above or below the cannelure? I've had problems with factory cannelure bullets, where the base(or boat tail-body junction) measures the nominal size (0.355 or 0.224 for example). Then, between that base point and the cannelure, it's 0.0005 to 0.001 smaller. Then between the cannelure and the ogive, it comes back up to nominal size. This obviously causes a problem with ammo durability, and I'm trying to see if buying non cannelure versions, then adding it myself would give better results, or if I'd still get the "slump" in the middle.
Hi Joe. Anything that squeezes a bullet, for whatever reason, can potentially put a ‘waist’ on the shank of the bullet. How much depends on the hardness of the core, and thickness of the jacket. Even your crimp die can produce the effect. I measured these, and there was no deformation. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a thanks Sir, I sincerely appreciate it. I have noticed a similar waiste when experimenting with a crimp die. These just came straight out of the box with the waiste already. Anyway, thanks again, keep up the good work
I had watched a video explaining about 38 wadcutters and why some had a 'crimp' in the case where base of bullet would be and how it affected accuracy, this looks similar but different?
The crimp in a case there to prevent the bullet from setting back into the case under recoil, but it is performed by a similar machine. In fact, this tool can be used for that function. The cannelure on a bullet, found primarily on revolver rounds but also on some rifle bullets, is there for the case mouth to be crimped into, for the same reason: to keep the bullet from moving under recoil. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
The bullets were just a little more than half price. I only bought 100 to try, so money saved wasn’t huge. But I don’t do this solely to save money anyway. By the time I checked back, they were sold out or I would have bought more. Thanks so much for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks, Walks. Somehow I KNEW that you could connect. I have some plated 45 Colt bullets, sans cannelure, that I got really cheap one time. I may try it there, but I’m skeptical. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for watching, That may well be true for bolt action BR shooting. These bullets are destined for 44 mag ammo, for which I prefer the more dependable crimp offered by a cannelure, particularly when used in the tubular magazine of my lever gun. Any effect on accuracy will not be noticed at the relatively short ranges I’ll be shooting these. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
As an old bullet swager, I've been using these tools for well over 40 years on jacketed pistol and rifle bullets I make. I almost never see anyone swaging bullets anymore, so I am glad to see someone who has this CH tool. They do work better when mounted on the bench via small board and C-clamps, for that keeps the bullets from walking.
Thanks! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
LEE makes a collet crimp die for 44 magnum...it beats the heck out of using a cannelure tool as far as time saving goes. If the brass is the correct length before crimping it doesn't hurt the brass either, but you will see that ring around the mouth of the case.
Yep. I have both collet and taper crimp dies for 44. I just chose to give this tool a run this time. Thanks for watching, and taking time to leave a valuable comment! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That's an AWESOME tool to have especially when you have bullets without a cannelure...... Thanks for sharing Walter....
Hi Michael. Thanks for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Pretty neat, never knew that existed, Thanks Walter
Hiya, Len! Thanks for stopping by the bench! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for sharing Walter . I think I have saw someone in a video many years back who was using one of these cannellure tool. 👍🇺🇸
Thanks, Dwayne. It’s kind of an ‘old school tool’ without much use these days. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Very interesting tool I have never seen or heard of this. Always learning something from you Walter
Thanks fro dropping by, Chris! Much appreciated. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
great work Walter
Thank you, my friend! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Wow, that's pretty cool! I've never seen that before.
Handy when you need it. It can be used to crimp a case below the bullet, too, if needed. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Interesting tool you have there
Thanks, M1. Old school stuff! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Hi Walter cool tool thanks for sharing
Hi Ocean. It’s great to hear from you! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I've never seen a tool like that in action... Thanks!
Hiya, Papa. Thank for checking in! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That thing is RAD 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Hiya, DJ. It’s an “old school tool that rules” ! 😀See ya soon! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
That is a cool tool! Thanks for showing it to us! Now I'll be looking for something at the next local gun show!
That's exactly where I found one, at a local gunshow, about 5 years ago, if you can find one then buy it, they are really pricey tools and they work well. I've used mine on bullets and also on cases.
They show up on fleabay now and then. Available new, but expensive. Thanks, Bama! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@HobbiesHobo hiya, Hobo. I used it once on some cases for a lever gun where I felt the need to help keep bullets from getting set back. But then I determined that I didn’t want to permanently disfigure the cases, and just used cast bullets with good crimp grooves. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a I no longer use it on cases, no real need. Colored sharpie works without marking the case up. I wasn't using it to prevent setback, just to mark "My" cases. Works great on some bullets though.
That is a cool tool to have. I have never seen one of those. 😎
Hiya, Dragon. I kind of figured that many reloaders may never have seen one, so I thought it might be a good idea for a video. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
What a cool tool!
Hi Marc! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Nice tool. Never imagined that. 👋👋🤝
Thanks, JC. It’s not much of a common practice these days. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I'd like to run across one of those tools. Good stuff!
It’s an interesting piece to have in your arsenal, for sure. I’ve never tried it on plated bullets, but I have some that I may put to the test. Thanks for checking in, GGW! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Pretty cool, I have heard of them but never saw one work.
Hiya, Trees. Thanks for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
There you go again Walter. Now I got to spend more money!😂
Hi Willie! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thanks for sharing!
Hi, Ed! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
great video walter, very interesting tool, not seen one of them before
Thanks, Mac. It’s an “old school tool” for sure. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Pretty neat thank you Walter!
Hi, Rick. Thanks first checking in! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
👍🤠🇺🇲 Thanks for sharing.
Hi Six. Thanks for stopping by. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
The screws are original to the tool. I have one I just got "used", but it's new old stock still in the box with paperwork. Screws are identical. I'm here to see how to use it! The only jacketed bullets available for .30 Luger have no cannelure.
Hi James. Thanks for that. I hope you got some insight on using the tool! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a Yes, I definitely did. I'm just about to give it a try now. 👍
Hell yeah! Wish I had one of those. How can you get one, order factory direct? Thanks!
Hi and thanks for stopping by. Yes..Google up “CH tool and die Company” and look under the “bullet tools” menu. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Thats cool!
Hi Keith. Thanks for checking in! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Does the tool cause a "slump" in the bullet, above or below the cannelure? I've had problems with factory cannelure bullets, where the base(or boat tail-body junction) measures the nominal size (0.355 or 0.224 for example). Then, between that base point and the cannelure, it's 0.0005 to 0.001 smaller. Then between the cannelure and the ogive, it comes back up to nominal size. This obviously causes a problem with ammo durability, and I'm trying to see if buying non cannelure versions, then adding it myself would give better results, or if I'd still get the "slump" in the middle.
Hi Joe. Anything that squeezes a bullet, for whatever reason, can potentially put a ‘waist’ on the shank of the bullet. How much depends on the hardness of the core, and thickness of the jacket. Even your crimp die can produce the effect. I measured these, and there was no deformation. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a thanks Sir, I sincerely appreciate it. I have noticed a similar waiste when experimenting with a crimp die. These just came straight out of the box with the waiste already. Anyway, thanks again, keep up the good work
@@joearledge1 It is one of the reasons that I disfavor the carbide Lee Factory Crimp die for my cast bullets! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a yes sir, those are the only crimp dies I use!😊
Thanks
Hi, ‘Cincy. Thanks for stopping by the bench! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I had watched a video explaining about 38 wadcutters and why some had a 'crimp' in the case where base of bullet would be and how it affected accuracy, this looks similar but different?
The crimp in a case there to prevent the bullet from setting back into the case under recoil, but it is performed by a similar machine. In fact, this tool can be used for that function. The cannelure on a bullet, found primarily on revolver rounds but also on some rifle bullets, is there for the case mouth to be crimped into, for the same reason: to keep the bullet from moving under recoil. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Cool, how much money do you think you saved
The bullets were just a little more than half price. I only bought 100 to try, so money saved wasn’t huge. But I don’t do this solely to save money anyway. By the time I checked back, they were sold out or I would have bought more. Thanks so much for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
A very cool tool from the past 😁👍🦶🪶🇺🇸
Thanks, Walks. Somehow I KNEW that you could connect. I have some plated 45 Colt bullets, sans cannelure, that I got really cheap one time. I may try it there, but I’m skeptical. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
👍👍
Thanks, Glen! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Or crimp with a Lee collet crimp die. With collet crimp you don't need a cannalure.
Yep. You can even taper crimp if not being used for magnum rounds. I have both. Thanks for stopping by! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Wow , they really missed the mark with those bullets.
Yep. They sold a bunch of them anyway! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
adding cannelure isn't necessary, actually reduces accy!....leave them alone. ..
Thanks for watching, That may well be true for bolt action BR shooting. These bullets are destined for 44 mag ammo, for which I prefer the more dependable crimp offered by a cannelure, particularly when used in the tubular magazine of my lever gun. Any effect on accuracy will not be noticed at the relatively short ranges I’ll be shooting these. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
🙏❤️🩹🤘🏼❤️🩹🙏
Thanks, C-Dub. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸