The Truth About the New Sig P365 X Macro: 1000 Round Review
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The Sig Sauer P365 X Macro just might be the new king of carry. Possibly the most feature packed, reliable, and accurate compact carry pistol on the market right now.
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I have been carrying a 43x for 3 years with no complaints. The second the Macro released I knew I needed one. Finally was able to get one last week and couldn't be happier. The fact that its almost identical in size to my 43x and has 7 rounds more plus built in comp is unreal.
It’s exactly why I just bought one even though I’ve been happy with my 43X MOS. It even uses the Shield arms mags with zero issues
Just bought my macro yesterday!
I have a non mos 43x. Other than just having an extra gun, I feel my 43 will gather dust. I might go pick up a sig tomorrow
@@mickmouse92the triggers are so smooth, second time at the range when I was a teen my stepdad handed me one over a Glock and that trigger was butter man.
@kyzmn actually I am surprised I said that 3 months ago. So I did get the sig, well, my wife got it. After 2 months and 500 rounds - I re fell in love with my 43x. I had it cut too. Both great but my 43 will never collect dust!
Picked up an XMacro yesterday. This is the best carry gun one could wish for. Great balance, concealable, 17+1? Are you kidding me? Great job Sig!
I'm debating p365x vs p365x macro. Magazine size and barrel vents are the only difference eh?
@itsbij
Wider grip as well I believe, I'd prefer that for an easier draw.
But that's just me, it's preference on which is better.
Trying to decide between this or the VP9SK.
If only we had more honest people like this guy. Chris doesn't give a single fuck and will tell you exactly like it is. No sponsors or overlords to appease. Something quite rare these days, and I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
@@anthonyarcher7268 you got something to back that up with or are you just another Cenk Uygur?
@@anthonyarcher7268 proof or didn’t happen
You think overlords don’t pay people to give a pretend “non-biased” review? Ever notice how the complaints people make are nothing different than the universally accepted “not that big a deal” of complaints? That way people like you think “well he mentioned one kind of barely sort of negative thing that’s not really that big of a deal to anyone, that must mean he isn’t being paid to promote this gun”.
Who’s Chris?
My 1st personal gun (not issued), zero regrets. Needed something just as Chris said to flex as both my EDC and home defense for both my Wife and I. Love the channel and keep up the wonderful work.
I’ve got the hellcat, p365, shield, and xdm-e 3.8” 10mm osp for my carry rotation. I had a chance to shoot this gun this weekend. I was very impressed with how soft it shoots. The gun was also 100% reliable in the 200 rounds in it (unlike my 2020 model p365 was out of the box). It’s a nice gun. I would reccomend it to anyone (or the hellcat rdp) who feels like the original p365/hellcat are too snappy.
Just got done shooting it today, going back tomorrow to purchase it. Will be my first gun. Question where is this gun at $700? Lol. Everywhere I searched it’s $840/$850 plus tax ect.
@@jay3251 $800 at sportsmans, palmetto, grabagun
@@czwarlord9243 thank you!
@@jay3251 did you buy it?
How Sig got 17 rounds into that size of a gun is still mind blowing
30th century Star Trek technology.
Wasn’t by hand I’ll tell you that! These compact 9’s with the higher mags are tough to load! Lol
It’s a conspiracy they have been sneaking behind our backs and shrinking the 9mm more and more to make us believe that 😂
@@bulabroha The X Macro grip is shorter than than a standard 17 round double stack grip, and it's a lot thinner.
@@mikekare79 😂....that's a Fact !!
Hands down the most useful gun channel on UA-cam. No question at all.
Sold! Just got onto California handgun roster, I’ll be adding this to my CCW
Still not in store. Can’t wait to get a hold of this one and a holosun
Absolutely LOVE my Xmacro. Fired a good 800 rnds out of it and have had 0 issues with it. Its my edc and id confidently say id trust my life with it. 100%
How is the frame to slide fit after 1K rds?
Love the honest reviews. I purchased the Macro in late August, ordered 507, mounted and began shooting. 1400 rounds so far without a hiccup using all kinds of ammo. This is my carry and home defense gun. I've let several others shoot a mag or so of ammo through it. Every single person loves the experience. Awesome "little workhorse", IMHO.
How is the accuracy on irons at 15-25 yards with the macro? Personally, I upgraded my xl with the Spectre slide and the accuracy is terrible. It shoots super high at 15-25.
@@dontewashington3250 I’ve only shot with the red dot since day one
You shoot steel cased ammo at with it? If so, how'd it perform?
exact same experience minus the dot. big fan of the gun
I ran 1000 rounds of 115 grain aluminum case through it when I first got it and I cleaned it maybe twice in between because it just wasn't getting that dirty with the aluminum. Not sure why.
Personally, I couldn't imagine having a red dot that you couldn't use to rack the slide. That needs to become the gold standard.
It is the gold standard.
@@bp516 It's not, it's a luxury not a standard currently
I don’t like doing that it puts your fingerprints all over the lens. Just overhand rack with the front serrations or pinch the back serrations and rack that way.
There is no gold standard, just training
I rack with that optic for years now never had an issue. Might want to look at how you mount them if you do. Torq wrench is the key
Hands down one of my favorite and I've not been kind to sig over the years
I've been carrying this exact setup for about a month now and it's by far the best carry gun I've ever owned when you consider the size to capacity ratio.
Hopefully you never have to shoot it without ear protection. Try the Icarus grip if this will be your edc.
What holster are you using and how do you like to?
Hard to carry anything else after buying this guy.... has been perfectly reliable and it is an engineering marvel to me because of all it offers in such a small package. Awesome review as always!!
I carry a 19x and a G30s and I'm itching at the bat ti get this because I feel like I wouldn't need anything else to carry unless I'm running full kit
Edit: I've been carrying it for about 3 weeks... It's now the go too
I find it to be my favorite carry gun now. I’ll still do the xl when I’m wearing shorts but the macro with a tlr7 a is just a set up I feel good with no matter what situation comes up
Same here. I went for Marco as daily after carrying g17 tlr1 for while. I’m just itching for new holster to arrive so I can add tlr7a onto it. Best pistol made ever.
I like the P365 TacOps better, prefer the longer barrel to a compensator.
@@robertdrawdy3749 any rust issues? Im stuck between the macro and the g19, but I live in florida and keeo seeing people complaining about rust when using it as an edc
You are my favorite channel of 2022. You're consistent, entertaining, and fun to watch. Please keep up the great work!
Thanks as always for your honesty and frankness! I’ve been researching an EDC gun for a while now and I keep coming back to you. Your delivery and attitude resonates well with me.
Keep up the great work
I love that your the only UA-camr that is actually HONEST with reviews. We know we all have favorite guns but your not as biased as others. Respect
This guy was born to review guns, very thorough but straight to the point with no bias. Well done 🔥
I handled one at my local gun shop today. I don't know what kind of wizardry they're doing over at SIG, but I was very impressed at the size/capacity ratio! Perfect for daily carry!
Exactly this. Got to hold one yesterday and I just knew I had to have one. Gonna save for the next two months to treat myself to this pistol for my birthday
It was one of those 😳😳😳 moments for me too when o was at a shop and held one. Just perfect.
I have a stock P365 and loved it so much it became my EDC. Was at the range, and one of the range masters let me handle his X-Macro. I was so impressed I got one and it became my new EDC 😂. Shoots like a dream, especially with the built in comp on the front.
Just bought one. Only a few hundred rounds in. So far so good. Absolutely love it!
bought this awesome pistol and love the way it reacts when fired, the recoil is amazingly low for such a compact gun and not to mention 17 + 1 rounds. Thanks for your honest reviews, keep up the great work.
I bought the x macro frame and 3 magazines. I converted my p365 xl. I had my barrel and slide magnaported. The magport makes a big difference on muzzle rise and recoil. Love the frame.
You can buy it now? Who's selling it
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 sig has some in stock and Wilson combat will have some soonn
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 grabagun has em
Where do I find the mags I did the same thing but can’t find any mags
@@tuneE9 pretty hard to find right now. I’ve got some but might try your local dealer
I loved carrying my 365XL but times were tough and looking to get another but maybe this Macro will suit me better. Thanks for the better gun reviews.
You can buy just the lower unit and convert the xl into the xmacro if you still have it
I have over 3700 rounds through my macro now. Had a mag issue around 3000 rounds besides that I have had no issues. Love this gun for carry
I like your channel because you have some of the best in depth gun reviews on youtube. Keep doing what you are doing. Thanks
I am no gun guy, or at least, I wasn't a year ago. With the rise of crime and the insanity taking over the entire world, I've been doing research for the last 6 months or so into firearms for home defense and family protection. Will be taking tactical training in a few months, reading tactical thinking books. I have settled on this firearm(the P365 xmacro comp) partly due to your videos and knowledge you have. Thank you, Chris. You're invaluable to all of us who wish to know the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Finally got one. Cleaned it, went to the range with just iron sights. Shot 300 rounds of factory 115grn brass, 124 grn hand loads, and 124 grn of both nickle plated and brass cased sig hollow point with zero issues. Brought my 43x to compare recoil and control and there was a difference albeit not huge. So far loving this pistol.
New Outlaw, today is a good day.
Indeed it is. I look forward to his reviews more than anyone else's. The only one that comes close is Sage Dynamics. 💪🏻
Simp much?
1000 rounds through my x macro. Not 1 issue. I’m very accurate with the iron sights from the x macro. For those who don’t know they light up in the dark The real kind not the ones you have to put a flashlight too. This is over a hundred dollar upgrade. I put a holosun 507 k just like honest outlaw about 600 rounds ago. It does co witness with iron sights. very accurate. Love this gun and honest outlaw videos. He hits on 95% of what I like to know. It is my go to gun but I still swap out my cz pcr 75d every now and again
Got this 3 months ago. Was worried about malfunctions. But have put around 800 rounds with no issues. Have shot many self defense rounds no issues. Really love this gun. My first sig. x macro has taken the place of my cz 75 d pcr for edc. Have the holosun 507 k on it. Works terrific. Thanks honest outlaw for what you do. By the way. I still love my cz 75d pcr. I swap it out every now and then.
Where do you get the sights?
I built a 365XL with the FCU I purchased about a year ago. I just got the X Macro grip and put it on my XL build. I also added the Holosun 507k v2. Love the gun so far.
Picking one up soon. Ever since I got the 43x I realized the slim line pistols are so much more comfortable for concealed carry.
I was actually thinking about switching from the m&p 2.0c to a 43x MOS or something like this X Macro because of EDC comfort. The m&p feels heavy and bulky. I shot a p365XL, but the grip is too small. I have big hands and want a full grip, but as small as possible of a gun for carry comfort lol. Which is the ballpark of the 43x, Sig Macro, hellcat pro etc. Maybe the canik tp9 sc elite at least when the mag is inserted, but that grip is odd and I have not held one yet.
@@kpatt2006 know exactly what you mean. I like to carry my FN509M but it's thicker and heavier. The 43x has become my comfort piece. Can wear it even with light clothing. I highly recommend it to anyone looking. Best to go to a shop and actually hold it in your hands. Everyone is different and likes different things. Take care pal, good luck
Appreciate the review Mr. Outlaw.
Looks like a nice option, but I'm sticking with my Shield Plus with the 15 round Equalizer mags, optic, and night sights.
Everyone have fun and be safe.
2 things, 1st awesome review non bias straight to the point with all the important info no fluff. 2nd that is the wrong light for the macro. The macro takes the 7 sub with the 1913 rail the sig version is for the for the 365, 365x, 365xl. it has a smooth rail no cross slot. Looking forward to your next review.
I ordered the X Macro grip and mags since I already had a custom P365XL. So glad that I didn't have to order a whole new gun. Love the pic rail for my TLR 7A as well.
From the way those plates were singing, you shot that pistol like it is part of you Great review. I’m buying one
I've been very happy with mine. I gave it an initial cleaning and oiling, then decided not to clean it again until it starts malfunctioning to see how far it can go. As of right now I have 1300 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. Since about the 1100 round mark it has occasionally failed to lock open on the last round of a magazine, but I don't see that as an issue.
Did you ever encounter any issues?
@@lostatsee6867 Nope. After I hit 3000 rounds with no cleaning and no failures I finally gave it a break, took the whole thing down and deep cleaned it. Just put another 200 rounds through it yesterday with no issues. The only problem I have had isn't technically with the gun, but I bought the gun as a combo with the Romeo Zero Elite red dot. The red dot randomly stopped working and the gun department I bought it from couldn't figure out what was wrong with it so I sent it to Sig and they sent me back a new one. I didn't put it back on the Macro because I don't trust it. So that's the only thing to be wary of when buying a Macro: don't go for the bundle with the Romeo Zero, just buy it without an optic and separately buy a decent one if you want to.
I've had my X-Macro for over a year now and have enjoyed it. It's my go to EDC.
I liked how you compared guns of different sizes/manufacturers. Good review!
I was able to shoot this gun a few months ago and I liked it a lot. I think the only reason I did not buy one at the time is because I have literally every other version of the P365. After some careful thought, and watching your 1000 round review I'm thinking I may have to go back and get it. lol. Thanks for the video.
Lol
What do you think about the regular Sig P365X?
Just buy the grip frame module and put it on your existing one.
My glock 43x mos has 15 round flush mags from Shield Armory. It's my favorite gun by far.
I used to carry a glock 43x and I still love it. It's my gym shorts carry. I picked up the uncomped version of the Macro a couple months ago and I love it. Feels great in my hand. Very manageable recoil amd it shoots great. The capicity is ridiculous. I put 407 k green dot on mine and at night throw a light on it, and it becomes a great home defense handgun. I highly recommend it.
I have around 1300 through mine. No issues and it’s become my EDC.
How many rounds now
It’s one of the finest conceal carry guns and most versatile on the market today in a holster in your pocket in your jacket. It’s there when you need it. I bought one last year 😎Thank you for sharing.
I’ve had mine for a couple of months and love it. Just purchased the Icarus precision aluminum grip module and wow does it take the gun up a notch. I know the grip module is expensive but it’s 100% worth it.
It’s almost the price of a new gun. Might get it down the line
Can't get my fcu to go in it's so tight on the Icarus what is the trick?
I didn’t have any issues getting mine in. I did watch a video on someone going over the grip module and he said his was extremely tight also. Put a little muscle into it 😜
I love how we’ve gone from big guns to small guns back to big guns but still smaller than the original big guns. An absolute roller coaster of engineering. Lol
Just got mine last week but only had opportunity to put a few hundred rounds through it, but so far the most fun firearm I've shot to date. this is the first handgun with optic I've ever owned, and love everything about it, this is my new EDC.
Really love my P365 XMacro. The compensator works. I would be very interested in seeing a comparison against other micro compensated guns like the CR920P and the Hellcat RDP.
After watching your reviews for the spectre comp and macro, I got my hands on both at my LGS to feel the differences, and I rented the macro to shoot. I definitely agree with you on your ending note that the spectre comp feels better in the hand with the lxg grip module, but there was no way I was gonna pay an extra $450 just for a tin barrel and trigger. Ended up trading a safe queen for a macro, and I went out and bought an eps carry, tlr7 sub, the LXG grip module, and a holster. Now my macro is an imitation spectre comp but with everything I need to carry it (light, rds, holster) for approximately the base price of the spectre comp alone. I couldn't be happier since I'm a slim dude who enjoys wearing clothes that don't look like I'm one wind gust away from being flung into the sky 😂 now I can go from my g19 to this for the summer months and wear what I wanna wear
Thanks for all the work you put into all of your reviews! I appreciate ya. Stay safe
Held an Xmacro today for the first time at my local shop and fell in love. I also held the Shield plus, S&W 2.0, P365XL, 43X, and one other non memorable gun. Once I sell my SCT19 frame with Dagger upper, I'll be getting the XMacro. Down the road Icarus Precision frame for perfection. Great video as always.
The only reason I'm hesitant getting a carry gun is the waiting game from the market constantly evolving. Next thing you know, there will be a Walther PPS M3 that has doubled capacity or a Kimber R7 Mako with better reliability.
Plus the fact that the XL is basically the same gun with a slightly longer barrel. They now make a 17rd mag for the XL and it's $200 cheaper...
Mako with better reliability? Mines been perfect…
True. But life doesn't wait for you having the perfect gun. It's the old saying of better to have a .22 on you than a .45 at home. Good luck.
If your main concern is reliability you should be carrying a G43X 😂.
@@weirdshibainu reminds me of PC gaming, "but the RTX 4080 is right around the corner!"
Keep on like that and you'll never be in the game (get yourself strapped and protected).
When it comes to - yet not just for - the amount of juice for the squeeze, the Mossberg Mc2sc is excellent
This is a reason I am a Sig fan! They keep innovating!
Thanks for your no BS reviews
If you have a P356XL already - you can get a 17 round magazine for it or you can get the 17 round magazine and Macro grip module and then you've got it except for the compensator.
I just bought the x macro this week bc I saw your top guns of 2022 video, I’ve only put about 200 rounds through it but I absolutely love it
Recently got a 365 and ive been shooting a lot lately at the range with norma range ammo. Really enjoy how well I shoot with it, and it has been trouble free so far.
I have several handguns including both a P365x and the P365X Macro. I love them both but the Macro is my favorite EDC.
Love my Macro! Definitely shoots flatter than my original P365. Although I do have to be more conscience of it printing with the longer grip. But it has replaced my P365 as my EDC. Great video, thanks!
Get yourself a mag guts kit for you 365. I carry a 365x with a mug guts and I get 14+1. It adds 2 rounds to the stock 12 round mag that comes with the 365x. I have 2 mags with the guts kits...and it is actually shorter than the stock mag cause the butt plate on the mag guts kit is contoured. They're sweet.
This one prints something serious.
What’s print mean
@@Whatisgoingon-od9ybgun showing through the clothing when you're carrying.
I have a Glock 43 with +2 extensions since it was pre 43x, I also have an MR920 elite. While looking at carry guns for my wife I put my hands one one of these today at Scheels and if I had no gun and had to pick based on feel in the hand only it’s this gun. Another gun shop had one but maybe a tac model and at glance I think it was just a mag well but that fit the hand even better
Preordered mine the day it went live. Just ended up selling it yesterday, it does feel great in the hand and in theory should be the absolute best carry gun but for some reason I just could not shoot it as well as my Glock 19. I don’t think either conceals easier or more comfortable than the other. With the right holster and my body type it makes no difference. The comp I think gave it a slight benefit in its return to zero but it still felt very snappy in my hand and it was difficult to get a full grip since it has such s thing grip. My Glock 19 just feels smoother and I get substantially better groups with irons at 25 yards then I could with the macro with a red dot. It’s a great gun! But both my 19 and the Macro were competing for the same role, I like the practice as much as I can with the same gun then bounce between different guns so I sold the Macro and will be keeping the Glock 19.
I owned the original 365 and sold it cuz it would take too much practice to be consistent. Tried the macro a few months ago and had the same problem.
Your choice man. This is MERICA!
Probably cause the fatty grip allows you to naturally point. I know this because on my MP, medium and small palm swell would put me out of natural aim. But the slightly fatty medium Large size puts the angle of pressures on the gun to be appropriate for natural aim, length of pull on trigger and, enough surface for both hands to be place on the grip. Sub compacts fail in this area because everything has trade offs. Yes you can probably train around it…. But it is also not very fun
Glad I seen this get your approval now I can buy one with confidence a few reviews out there showing Trigger malfunctions But I thought it was BS
Bought an xl yesterday and it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for in an everyday carry 💯
I just got home with one this morning and haven't fired it yet, a little nervous going into this review but I love this weapon so far! It feels so damn good in the hand
Edit: 1 month and change later and this is still my edc and hasn't left my side for more than a moment. Amazing gun and reliable as all hell, I still run it completely stock and will likely not add a light or holo its just too good out the box.
Great review and makes me extremely satisfied with this purchase! I have to wonder where people are finding these for under 750 though! I paid 805 out the door with tax and the dealer showed me his invoice from the distributor was almost 750. He had trouble finding it with a few distributors as well. I'll be taking this out tomorrow to run some TUI and range ammo through it, can't wait!
One of my LGS was having a Black Friday sale and I was able to get the XMacro for 10% off retail. It’s a good deal considering the current price for this Sig. 😊
@@RonRamil I've been carrying it around all day in my house. Its just such a nice feeling gun. Colon noir said it best that this gun is basically made for hobbit hands and it fits me to a t. I've got medium hands with some heft to them and I think this beats my favorite grip ever which is my 92fs full size. Can't wait to see what other manufacturers come up with in this size and capacity.
@@freemel8929 yeah it does feel really nice. I was just dry firing it a few mins ago 😂😂 I won’t be able to get to the range until next weekend. By that time, my Holosun 507k will arrive which will increase the desire to get to the range.
@@RonRamil nice! im going to get a tlr7a light but I haven't decided on using a holo or not yet. I have a holosun on my m4e1 and they are great! But whew they are pricey after the price of this gun.
originally when the Macro came out I wasn't all that impressed. But now from your review I'm going to look into it again.
I can’t believe how far we’ve come in 20 years - I was excited to train with a concealed P239 (8 + 1, DA/SA) back then. Now we can carry 17 + 1, with a RDS, and weapon light using about the same real estate, but also keeping our pants from falling down. Still love my P239, as well as it’s sexier sibling P225, but they sadly don’t see much daylight anymore.
I haven’t shot the X Macro, but I’m content with my P365 XL with WC grip. Carried with 12 rounder to keep the butt tidy, but with a X Macro 17 round mag on deck. I haven’t yet added a Streamlight because I’m waiting for more holster options, but hopefully soon…
Love my 239 !
Bought a 365 when it first came out. I then bought the XL when it came out. I now just bought a Macro. Love the platform. Game changer. I do wish the Macro had stayed with the smaller proprietary light rail to save having to buy new holsters again. I have an existing stash of XL kydex. I don’t run a light. Excellent review bud!
Good review, I like my P365 enough to carry it most days.
The whole P365 family is great. It is all interchangeable and I love my p365, with an xl slide. 10,12,15, and 17 rd mags run like champs, make it what ever size you need
Great review. Thank you for the consistently great content
Chris is one of the very few "guntuber" who's opinion I can honestly trust.
Finally ! Sig has designed a pistol with a lower bore axis to the web of the hand . I have only been waiting for Thirty Fricken Years !
Own it. Love it. 1200rnds so far in 2months. 0 issues
My wife just bought this gun to replace her P250 Compact which turned out to be to big for her. Took it to the range and put 300 rounds through it without a single malfunction. We both love this gun. Thinking about buying one for myself to replace my Kahr P9 which is my EDC. It is much more comfortable to shoot than the Kahr.
Ms outlaw is getting pretty good, starting to shoot faster . Great video bro. 👍
Any time I want to buy a gun I always go to my guy here the best reviewer there is !!! Thanks a lot!!!
Awesome review! The only complaint I have with my X Comp is that the mags need some break in. Racking the slide on a full 17 round mag is tough, grinds against the casing. Also, adding that plus one with a 17 rounder takes a hefty push to get it to click. I’m hoping it breaks in better because I have the same light and optic, it’s the perfect gun!
Lock the slide open, let it fall into place, at least until the mags break in.
I just bought my gun today... I noticed the same exact thing you mentioned. Did yours ever get better after breaking in?
@@ahmadabdallah6451 yes it’ll break in
I've always carried one less than maximum capacity in a carry/duty gun ...old School Military 🪖
Dude the problem when I first got it i actually couldn’t even get the 17th round in no matter what load I put in I watched another vid and they said the same thing it definitely broke in though ..but it still doesn’t like to go in with 124 grain +p federal Hst.. it works with 115 grain fmj rounds though.. which is mostly what I use at the range
Got mine about two months ago and I absolutely love it
I've been looking to get one, but I'd have to sell one of my other ones, to make room. It's really impresses me, and of course the capacity is awesome!
Would have loved to hear mrs outlaw’s comments on this one.
A buddy shot my p365x and liked it but has larger hands than me. He bought the macro and loves it. He glock 19 got forgotten about because of how it shoots and comfort for EDC.
Great video as always outlaw
Love the review, I'm torn between the X Macro and Walther PDP F-Series currently. Hopefully, y'all have a PDP F review coming soon.
For carry id go macro, ¼" narrower and more capacity in pretty much a identical grip and slide length, i bought a f 3.5" and ended up selling it for a 365x cause it was just too big for my frame... Both shot great though in my experience
The macro will smack the fuck outta any Walter
@@ultraspank8479 yeah, but at the time my thought process was i really like how both shoot and the $200 gap was a lot... At least until i realized that it was too big and went to a 365x for a $300 loss rather than a $100 on a xl grip and a 12 round mag where id effectively have 2 guns for less overall
@@bigross37 no doubt about it the macro is pricey they now have the macro grip module out for $80 you can put in your XL and then buy the macro magazine for about $55
I already have almost 1k through mine. All sorts of ammo. Not a single malfunction. I'm still going to watch this review though because I just love your reviews man. Thank you for your time. Enjoy the new land brother! Totally jealous
I just got the Icarus Precision grip module for it and it makes a huge difference. I've used their P365XL and P320 compact grips before and they were great, but they knocked it out of the park with the Macro grip.
Wish I could justify the price.
What holster did you get for it? I want the icarus grip.
@james Bellerose I got a Havoc Holster which I really like and a 3 Speed Holster for if I'm not wearing a belt. Havoc has custom Holsters for the Icarus grip module, with 3 speed it fits in a 365XL holster perfectly even with an optic.
Crazy thing couple months ago we were all looking at the 43x then this lil thing came along. Great video, I'd say handgun of the year.
I’d be surprised if the Spectre has anything special about the trigger besides the coating. Mine felt exactly the same, but I put Tactical Triggers kit in them to reduce overtravel and give it a more defined break.
I agree this is the best Goldilocks gun out-for carry and HD. And if the 17rd grip is too hard to conceal, a person can grab an XL grip and a 12rd mag (with a +2 magguts kit! And have a shorter 14-+1 gun.
I checked one out last night at Academy Sports and I love the way it felt in my hand! I want to get one!
With the P365XL, or the P365, you can get an extra two rounds of capacity by using Maggutz springs, followers and baseplates in the flush fitting mags, not the extended mags. It's pretty sweet and their springs are rated for 20,000 cycles of loading and unloading. So, with my P365XL, I have 14 rounds in the mag plus 1 in the chamber which gets me really close to my G19, except in size. :)
Thanks for that info
Or you can buy an X macro mag and have 17+1 in your P365XL. Too bad they cost about $70 after shipping.
I've been carrying the original P365 for over a year now I can't wait until I can get the P365 X macro I want one so bad
For the price, I still prefer the Hellcat Pro. $540 with 5 mags vs $780 and 2 mags. But, I won’t deny they’re both great. Wouldn’t talk anyone out of either purchase.
780?? I paid 700 with 4 17round mags today...
I have been waiting on this review. Thank you. This is one of the few guns my department "allows" for off duty or secondary and I have been skittish about the price tag. Informative and helpful.
Holy smoke, a gun with an awfull lot of positives and almost no negatives
Sigs p365 line is definitely great for carrying but who knows who’s paid to say what
Tactical Toolbox just made a video about the macro and explained how the slide gets too hot to shoot the gun after a few mags. So if you like your hands to be burnt than ya, the macro is the gun for you 👍🏻
Was able to get one at 10% over cost today. Excited to give er a try. Thanks for the review.
another great video, Honest Outlaw. I have to say, I used to think 1k rounds was a lot until I started shooted myself. hell, that's a busy weekend at the range, haha.
Another fantastic believable detailed review. TYVM! Lots to like as you say: Price, Capacity, Weight, Nolow print, no hassle comp and rackable via optic. I'm going to suggest my wife test this vs G19 at range and see which she prefers for her EDC.
The regular P365 with the 17 round mag is a nice little carry option too.
That might be the way I go. I cannot see spending $800 right now.
@@twelvepercentitalian2511its 650 and comes with a red dot
Informative. Never been a SIG guy, but after that glowing review I may just have to consider this gun....THANKS!!
Had a 43x. Shot and carried my buddies macro... Now I no longer own the 43x and carry the 365x macro everyday. Absolutely no comparison, great gun, great carry, couldn't be happier.
What holster?
See, I did it the opposite way around. Sold the Macro for the G43x
@@jlinka79 went through every P365 variant before I decided that it just wasn’t for me.
@@josephlovasz440 I carry outside the waistband. I used trex arms ironside. Love it!
Just got this gun, definitely my favorite. The red dot zero is pretty amazing also
I love my X macro. Probably my favorite carry gun ever. Including bul armory, oz9 compact, and mr920, and a ridiculous amount of glocks
I live and breath my mr920 so I’m curious what do you like more about the Xmacro/dislike about the mr920? Been debating picking up one 365 variant or another for the past year or so and I’d like to hear some other opinions.
@@logant5552 im going to preface this with the fact that im not big on glock designs and I preferred the OZ9 over the 920. Along with the fact that the 365 x macro was sent to me for free. But the x macro’s mag size mixed with it’s actual size makes me super comfortable with carrying it. Along with that, it shoots very nice with the hornady critical duty +p i run when compared to some other guns. I forgot if the oz9 or mr920 is tho one with the more traditional grip angle but I definitely prefer the more standard grip angle of the 365. Trigger’s also better than what I remember the 920’s trigger being
@@bro26mohw 0z9 and 920 are knock off glocks for nearly double the price. I prefer real glocks 👍🏻. Although this macro is cool but for $850 ummm kind of a rip off at that point.
@@9770G the oz9 and 920 are significantly better than stock glocks
@@bro26mohw sure they are 🤣. Whatever u have to tell yourself to sleep at night knowing you spend 2x the money for a knock off product 😂.
Mrs. Outlaw working that plate rack @10:05