I had a new heart valve last September & there is no way I would have been able to get out & about so much on my analogue bike. I did have a Scott Aspect but then after my operation I bought my first emtb, a Turbo Levo. I think just getting out wherever is the point regardless of what you're riding & enjoying it.
Canyon: Please release the Strive:ON for order in the United States. I want to order one now. I'm stuck between buying this bike and another because I don't want to miss riding this summer. Excellent job on moving to Bosch; that is why I didn't order a Canyon in the past. I would also like to see the Bosch on the Torque:ON.
Mee too 46 now can still ride like I'm 26. Got a 900wh battery in my spectral done some 70mile epics. I still ride my normal MTB but 25 miles on that and I'm done these days... burning more cals on the longer rides on the emtb.....
Also Canyon made Enduro-like Bikes before the Strive. We considered the first Strive actually more of an All Mountain option with its 140mm. Enduro Bikes were simply called Freeride Bikes and had 160-180mm travel and yeah, a shitty geometry :D
Got to be electric for me ever since my motorcycle accident I find it hard to ride analogue bikes so give me EMTB every time I have a Cube hardtail atm
I have both emtb and normal and tbh I’d rather ride my normal mtb, yeah emtb is fun but I mainly only use it if there’s quite a few hills on my ride, other than that normal bike all the way
I love my 2014 Strive, but my asthma made me stop using it since a small climb would ruin my day. This thing looks like the solution for getting me back on the track. I want it, I need it, now! ❤
E-Bikes are nice, but unfortunately out of my reach with how much they cost. My job also doesn't offer leasing one so I'm all out of luck I guess. But I could just buy a car for the same money anyway.
It also changed so much in fact that it changes who can do mountain biking now. Old age? Not the most physically fit? Looking for a good time? And EMTB all the way! Just ask my 50 year old dad who I drag up 2000-3000 foot hills every weeknd 😂.
@T Bone I have a 2022 Levo turbo and the motor is sensational. Crazy what I can get up with that thing. It feels nimble and playful going downhill too. I sized down purposely.
I recently got my first ebike, they are loads of fun but still have some draw backs. In the steepest terrain you can definitely feel the difference in weight on an ebike. To me it feels like the back wheel wants to slide out/around more. On an amish bike I never have any issues controlling the rear end. The ebike is much harder to "correct" and control. It takes a lot more effort to get the bike to do what you want it too. Ebikes are fun but they're not going to be replacing regular bikes. If I'm riding the gnarliest of trails I still want my 30ish pound enduro bike.
Have you tried a more serious softer compound tire? And what wheel size, I'd have to go 27" to gain more control over it. I get you tho, pros way more fit than I'll ever be say they're so much more exhausted climbing on ebikes, yet people still call them lazy ez motos
So I am getting my Strive on underdog on Monday. The customer service convinced me to buy the Medium although all my Santa Cruz and Levos are large. I love the levos size and my Bronson feels a little cramped in cockpit. Am I going to regret buying the Medium being 5’10 with a 30 inch inseam.. Thanks for the help.
Mine arrived yesterday. The bike turned up in crap condition tho, scrapes on the frames all over and I don’t think it happened in transit. I’ve complained and awaiting a reply. What was the condition of yours on arrival please? 🙏
For me the key of having an Ebike is to have two bikes in one. A Downhill bike for descents and a good bike to the Hills. Is like going on bikepark by yourself.
God know's untill ridden both, either way judging by the price i expect 110% performance from both, however knowing Bosch motors the ebike will be outstanding compared to past models as manufacturers have put a lot of hours into designing the ebikes of today & very doubtful you would be disappointed
I would only buy an ebike for shuttling, even then i think it would null the DH. Just kills you watching them blast up the hills but its about quality rather than quantity of runs
My definition of better right now would be to take bikes like the Transition Smuggler and make them cheaper so I can have more bikes. Having a motor bike is not for me.
It's not really a consumable part in the same way as tyres and chains are... you should get a good few years out of a modern eMTB battery before you'd ever think it might need replacing, and only because it isn't holding it's charge for quite as long as when new.
I really believe e bikes are the future. , I mean 20 years of so, and they will be the norm for recreational riding. Go further, ride steeper hills and not get as tired. Awesome. The worse thing is getting disheartened. Then you quit The confidence boost ebikes give us a superb plus
It is literally a comparison test between a regular MTB and and eMTB. You might have made your mind up already, but a lot of viewers might well be interested in what the actual differences are, and considering the pros and cons of both if they are in the market for a new bike - hence a comparison on this channel is legitimate content.
@@jmo2752 You make a very fair point. I would still like all E-bike content to be on the EMBN channel. It would be different if EMBN didn't exist, but it does. All of that said, I'm just one person and that's really all I expect my opinion to count for. Thanks for the reply.
@@CatManDoSocial If the video had been uploaded to EMBN, you could have cried there and said "Ooh, this channel is only supposed to be about e-bikes and not normal MTBs😭"
Sorry not really interested E bikes, if I was I would watch your Ebike channel. I ride a normal bike to get away from the electronics of this world, hence I would not get the electronic dropper post or derailleur.
I don´t get whats the difference between Spectral On and Strive On now. It´s nearly the same kinematics and look . So please don´t compare apple with pineapple, it´s not the same. Especially without shapeshifter-technology 👀
Spectral On and Strive On are not nearly the same, take a look at the geometry, it's vastly different. The Strive On is much slacker and longer with a steeper seat tube angle.
@@smoothoperator7534 We are a channel for all things off-road and mountain biking. You can find a more in-depth tech video on the release of these new EMTBs on our specific channel EMBN.
Normal Mtb are also overpriced, look at brands like santacruz, canyon. You get mtb for 5k and i bought a full power enduro emtb haibike for 3k so it really depends
That’s bs, so many people ride e bikes now because it’s fun. You talk the same fear of the future stuff like back then when gears and shifters were introduced some of the old riders preferred to ride anything by muscle power.
@@userbarny6271 canyon is far from rubbish! Has superb service, top support& quality! But yeah. E-bikes are not something to own long term... like a normal bike.. (im talking 30+ years)
As a Canyon owner, I can confidently say this view is wrong. Canyon support has been great. Servicing, well that's down to owners, and a good opportunity to support your local bike shop.
Never. If you've followed the channel for more than a year I think its become very obvious that their job is to move product, and I think they haven't thought critically about their impact on broader issues like climate change and emissions output by how hard they push e-bikes (non recyclable batteries).
Ebike everyime. For the same reason i buy a colour tv rather than a black and white one. Pedalbikes are obsolete. Comment below if you are a peasant on a retro bike.👇
Does adding a motor and a battery improve a bike?? I don’t want a big heavy bike that does all the work for you. Keep your ‘laps’ of the bike park to yourself. Thought there was a channel for these things?? Until I am too old or so fat I can’t ride a normal bike I have zero interest.
@@LastAphelion dude have you read what you wrote?? Of course an E-bike makes it easier. Total marketing con. Professional riders are on these bikes because they are paid. I’ve had a day on a couple of E-bikes. I felt a total fraud, plus going downwards, they are so cumbersome. Monster trucking everything. Killed the joy for me.
Then people who have no idea about them will have major misconceptions about them, like they already have/do. I enjoy watching all kinds of the mountain biking.. No one here is complaining about a bunch of park and downhill races being XC riders. Embn is perfect for all the specialty stuff but having some content on the channel is a good thing.
Does the Canyon Strive:ON finally make you want an E-bike?! 🤔
Sure
no, love my hardtail too much
No. Is your Emtb channel failing so badly that you have put it's advertorials on this channel ?
No thanks, will stay with my analogue version, the e-version is sooo ugly (and I don't need the help to climb a hill, yet...).
Nope 🙃🙃
Seems like GMBN and EMBN are slowly merging into one channel.
Keep listening to the sounds mkay.
I had a new heart valve last September & there is no way I would have been able to get out & about so much on my analogue bike. I did have a Scott Aspect but then after my operation I bought my first emtb, a Turbo Levo. I think just getting out wherever is the point regardless of what you're riding & enjoying it.
It's all about having fun on bikes at the end of the day 👍
Canyon: Please release the Strive:ON for order in the United States. I want to order one now. I'm stuck between buying this bike and another because I don't want to miss riding this summer. Excellent job on moving to Bosch; that is why I didn't order a Canyon in the past. I would also like to see the Bosch on the Torque:ON.
That regular Strive looks really good
Love my ebike for all types of riding. Just getting more laps and riding done than I would ever manage on a normal MTB.
Mee too 46 now can still ride like I'm 26. Got a 900wh battery in my spectral done some 70mile epics. I still ride my normal MTB but 25 miles on that and I'm done these days... burning more cals on the longer rides on the emtb.....
Also Canyon made Enduro-like Bikes before the Strive. We considered the first Strive actually more of an All Mountain option with its 140mm. Enduro Bikes were simply called Freeride Bikes and had 160-180mm travel and yeah, a shitty geometry :D
This is supposed to be an enduro bike comparison, but for the gnarly downhill you only rode one bike and didn't make any comparison between the two?
Got to be electric for me ever since my motorcycle accident I find it hard to ride analogue bikes so give me EMTB every time I have a Cube hardtail atm
I have both emtb and normal and tbh I’d rather ride my normal mtb, yeah emtb is fun but I mainly only use it if there’s quite a few hills on my ride, other than that normal bike all the way
I love my 2014 Strive, but my asthma made me stop using it since a small climb would ruin my day. This thing looks like the solution for getting me back on the track. I want it, I need it, now! ❤
E-Bikes are nice, but unfortunately out of my reach with how much they cost.
My job also doesn't offer leasing one so I'm all out of luck I guess. But I could just buy a car for the same money anyway.
But you can't drive a car on the trials!
@@aasimmons lol yes you can! Just different types of trails! That’s why they make off road vehicles buddy!😂
If you haven't tried an EMTB, it's a must. They are all unreal these days. Not like 4 or 5 years ago...
It also changed so much in fact that it changes who can do mountain biking now. Old age? Not the most physically fit? Looking for a good time? And EMTB all the way!
Just ask my 50 year old dad who I drag up 2000-3000 foot hills every weeknd 😂.
@T Bone I have a 2022 Levo turbo and the motor is sensational. Crazy what I can get up with that thing. It feels nimble and playful going downhill too. I sized down purposely.
I recently got my first ebike, they are loads of fun but still have some draw backs. In the steepest terrain you can definitely feel the difference in weight on an ebike. To me it feels like the back wheel wants to slide out/around more. On an amish bike I never have any issues controlling the rear end. The ebike is much harder to "correct" and control. It takes a lot more effort to get the bike to do what you want it too. Ebikes are fun but they're not going to be replacing regular bikes. If I'm riding the gnarliest of trails I still want my 30ish pound enduro bike.
Have you tried a more serious softer compound tire? And what wheel size, I'd have to go 27" to gain more control over it. I get you tho, pros way more fit than I'll ever be say they're so much more exhausted climbing on ebikes, yet people still call them lazy ez motos
@@LastAphelion Bike came stock with DD 2.4 in the rear. Gonna run the widest tire I can back there for the next tire.
@@christiandruan Maybe something like a Schwalbe Downhill super soft
That's where the SL comes into it's own.
Love my emtb 2023 giant rein been mtbing 20 years now this allows me to do hill repeats more & Iam now getting faster down hill
So I am getting my Strive on underdog on Monday. The customer service convinced me to buy the Medium although all my Santa Cruz and Levos are large. I love the levos size and my Bronson feels a little cramped in cockpit. Am I going to regret buying the Medium being 5’10 with a 30 inch inseam.. Thanks for the help.
Mine arrived yesterday. The bike turned up in crap condition tho, scrapes on the frames all over and I don’t think it happened in transit. I’ve complained and awaiting a reply. What was the condition of yours on arrival please? 🙏
For me the key of having an Ebike is to have two bikes in one. A Downhill bike for descents and a good bike to the Hills. Is like going on bikepark by yourself.
Strive, Spectral, or Torque? 🤔
My strive ON has been shipped today 😊
Are the Strive:ON's even available? Can't find anything on their website...
Have you ever tried or know the BOXER wimcycle? if you have or not please review
God know's untill ridden both, either way judging by the price i expect 110% performance from both, however knowing Bosch motors the ebike will be outstanding compared to past models as manufacturers have put a lot of hours into designing the ebikes of today & very doubtful you would be disappointed
I would only buy an ebike for shuttling, even then i think it would null the DH. Just kills you watching them blast up the hills but its about quality rather than quantity of runs
How do you make it better? "Add batteries and a motor."
We have very different definitions of better.
My definition of better right now would be to take bikes like the Transition Smuggler and make them cheaper so I can have more bikes. Having a motor bike is not for me.
Where is the review of the canyon torque
Already have an emtb and love it 👍
I'm not really a fan of having an expensive consumable part like a $1000+ battery
How often does one realistically replace those $1000 batteries?
It's not really a consumable part in the same way as tyres and chains are... you should get a good few years out of a modern eMTB battery before you'd ever think it might need replacing, and only because it isn't holding it's charge for quite as long as when new.
will keep full cap 500 cycles before going down to about 80% max cap if you treat it right
yeah good full sus ebikes are here at like 4000€+..you can buy a fucking car with that
Would love an e-bike but not to replace my current acoustic bike
They are very different riding experience, it's worth having a try on one if you haven't yet!
@@gmbn ridden a handful. Great bits of kit and they definitely have a good purpose
@@FatboyAussie WTF is an "acoustic bike"? 😅
You can have both - they are not mutually exclusive you know! (despite what some commenters on here seem to think...)
@@dit4963 non powered.
There’s a new trend analog bikes. Created by the slow down peoples who want enjoy the travel in slow motion.
Maybe years down the line I'll get an E-bike, until then I'll stick to naturally aspirated
Mountain bike vs Ebike.
Always the base bike
You didn’t even ride it DH. Ofc emtb is worse DH. Worse doesn’t mean useless or bad but 10kg weight is never positive on a bike.
They add lead in downhill bikes. I like all my bikes around 35-40 lbs. My emtb is 52 but it is great for long days. Can't wait to get an SL..
Wcup Free!
I really believe e bikes are the future. , I mean 20 years of so, and they will be the norm for recreational riding. Go further, ride steeper hills and not get as tired. Awesome.
The worse thing is getting disheartened. Then you quit The confidence boost ebikes give us a superb plus
@@irfuel Or they just want an easier life.
You all have an entire channel dedicated to E-bikes. Why do you have to keep posting E-bike content here?
Because EMBN doesn't get enough views 😅
It is literally a comparison test between a regular MTB and and eMTB. You might have made your mind up already, but a lot of viewers might well be interested in what the actual differences are, and considering the pros and cons of both if they are in the market for a new bike - hence a comparison on this channel is legitimate content.
@@jmo2752 You make a very fair point. I would still like all E-bike content to be on the EMBN channel. It would be different if EMBN didn't exist, but it does. All of that said, I'm just one person and that's really all I expect my opinion to count for. Thanks for the reply.
@@CatManDoSocial If the video had been uploaded to EMBN, you could have cried there and said "Ooh, this channel is only supposed to be about e-bikes and not normal MTBs😭"
@@FINNdeischgut You're wrong. I don't watch EMBN so I wouldn't have seen it to begin with. But thanks for playing.
Sorry not really interested E bikes, if I was I would watch your Ebike channel. I ride a normal bike to get away from the electronics of this world, hence I would not get the electronic dropper post or derailleur.
I don´t get whats the difference between Spectral On and Strive On now. It´s nearly the same kinematics and look . So please don´t compare apple with pineapple, it´s not the same. Especially without shapeshifter-technology 👀
Spectral On and Strive On are not nearly the same, take a look at the geometry, it's vastly different. The Strive On is much slacker and longer with a steeper seat tube angle.
I have zero interest in anything with pedal assist. Overpriced and overmarketed
@@smoothoperator7534 We are a channel for all things off-road and mountain biking. You can find a more in-depth tech video on the release of these new EMTBs on our specific channel EMBN.
@smooth operator not wrong there mate
Normal Mtb are also overpriced, look at brands like santacruz, canyon. You get mtb for 5k and i bought a full power enduro emtb haibike for 3k so it really depends
So why put it on here ? It's money isn't it.
That’s bs, so many people ride e bikes now because it’s fun. You talk the same fear of the future stuff like back then when gears and shifters were introduced some of the old riders preferred to ride anything by muscle power.
one worse than the other, stay away from the rubbish, no service, no support, no quality, just marketing and gmbn sponsoring
What are you on about?😂
@@SomeOneOneOne aha, haven't you completed a course in reading comprehension yet?
@@userbarny6271 canyon is far from rubbish! Has superb service, top support& quality! But yeah. E-bikes are not something to own long term... like a normal bike.. (im talking 30+ years)
As a Canyon owner, I can confidently say this view is wrong. Canyon support has been great. Servicing, well that's down to owners, and a good opportunity to support your local bike shop.
@@irfuel not all brands are sold in shops, but all shops will welcome you and whatever bike in for service and upgrades/repairs.
second 🤑🤑
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at what point will these guys stop ramming Ebikes down our throats, not interested.
Never. If you've followed the channel for more than a year I think its become very obvious that their job is to move product, and I think they haven't thought critically about their impact on broader issues like climate change and emissions output by how hard they push e-bikes (non recyclable batteries).
they tested both and asked for opinions whats your point ?
You ok hun?
E bikes to e channel please
first
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maaan, these bike are getting longer and longer and more ugly to watch :-/
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Ebike everyime. For the same reason i buy a colour tv rather than a black and white one. Pedalbikes are obsolete.
Comment below if you are a peasant on a retro bike.👇
@@irfuel sounds like he already did!
@@irfuel His mum won't let him have a real motorbike .
You keep the junk food right next to the recliner?
I see he has edited his comment to reflect that snobby "I have an emtb" mentally. What he might not realise is not everyone wants an ebike.
@@irfuel I'm looking at getting one someday, just not yet.
Does adding a motor and a battery improve a bike??
I don’t want a big heavy bike that does all the work for you. Keep your ‘laps’ of the bike park to yourself.
Thought there was a channel for these things??
Until I am too old or so fat I can’t ride a normal bike I have zero interest.
It doesn't do your work for you, even the pros say they're far more exhausting to climb with
@@LastAphelion dude have you read what you wrote??
Of course an E-bike makes it easier.
Total marketing con. Professional riders are on these bikes because they are paid.
I’ve had a day on a couple of E-bikes. I felt a total fraud, plus going downwards, they are so cumbersome. Monster trucking everything. Killed the joy for me.
Are you riding single speed or are you one of those new school babies with gear shifters? ;)
Not hating on e-bikes, they are good fun - just strongly prefer this channel be about mountain biking.
Keep this stuff on the e-bike channel.
Then people who have no idea about them will have major misconceptions about them, like they already have/do. I enjoy watching all kinds of the mountain biking.. No one here is complaining about a bunch of park and downhill races being XC riders. Embn is perfect for all the specialty stuff but having some content on the channel is a good thing.
Look for Battery LATCH problems on STRIVE :ON
You'll be suprise.
Im so tired of eMTB 🥱