Honestly the coolest SPAA in the game. The animation and sound is amazing, and watching those giant missiles zip towards the target with their big trails is quite the sight.
I knew the Tor-M1 was cool, but this is just too much. The way the missile launches up, then flips sideways and then activates it's engine is so satisfying. Same with the s300/400
@@lucasmoreno2154 high off boresight means the missile is able to lock targets very far away from its boresight (The boresight being the area the missile sees when looking straight ahead) e.g. R-73 and AIM-9X The problem is that in order to take real advantage of HOBS missiles we'd need some sort of HMD (Helmet Mounted Display) so you can lock people by looking around, unleashing the true capabilities of the high off boresight. Otherwise it'll just be like any other missile in the game but with better countermeasure resistance and more maneuverability
This is essentially the first modern air defense in game. It’ll be cool if they’d add larger ground maps and things like the SA-3 and HAWK air defense in the future
The sa3 and hawk have to large of range for use in war thunder. Not only that but they are not independent vehicles they require multiple vehicles to work
@ 00:55 Thanks for showing the detail of the missle being fired from the SAM system. I have seen other people use this and we just see the missle flying from the target view.
I think the ALT+L feature is supposed to change how the missile guides, whether it uses its own radar to be FOX-1 or being guiding in by hand like all the other radar SPAA’s.
It changes the predictive flight path for the radar lock target. Its always mouse guided regardless, but your mouse will follow a radar lock so.. For the crosshair on top of target, it guides just like every other saclos missile. This is the least efficient of the 3, as the missile doesnt predict where the target will be. For crosshair in front, it flies a little ahead of the radar lock and turns in toward the target when its about 0.5 km away from the target. This makes the flight path shorter in theory, but is easier to lose track on maneuvering target. For crosshair next to, it does the same as the last one, but now the missile aims at a point between you and the target. Theyre all different types of guidance and have advantages depending on the direction of the enemy in relation to you
Also quick thing, I could be wrong but I thought fox 1 is semi active radar homing which is the missile takes the information from the vehicle that fired it from its radar and not it’s own. If it had its own radar it would be a fox3
The only complaint I have for this is that it doesn't get thermals, it would make things much easier but I guess this might change once the Russian tech tree has it but other than that the TOR-M1 is as impressive as I expected it to be!
Recently as I finished my grind for the new abrams and my cadet mates came online, all 50 of us hoped online and created a operations custom. we had Anti-air, helis, tanks and a few aircraft, with the 2 sides of this operation in Vietnam oh boy was it good, we had a sqdrn of our Ace of spades in the tomcats keeping air supremacy and we had some British Harriers keeping the ground clear of the other side with both the Chinese and Russian military. We spent 7hrs playing this and we all enjoyed every last bit of it, I found it really cool seeing the Anti air missiles coming from seemingly nowhere and coming in our direction. Best game we’ve ever played together.
Debating whether I should grind China or something wait till they plop this after the 2s6, I think the Chinese tree is gonna get real interesting if they decide to go gen 4.5+ on aircraft
It should also be noted that the missiles of the 2s6 and the tor1m barely fit in 11.0, but they are kept there by the guns of the first and the radar of the second
I just like how the missile fly and launch out of the tank and also i like that your friend helicopter just say hi to you while you're targeting a fighter keep doing your good job have a nice day i'm by the way we have the same time i have that one also like it
Nice video Hunter, I gotta admit this thing is so cool when it launches it missile. I had the pleasure of playing a match with you yesterday on fields of Normandy, unfortunately we got our asses kicked lol 🤣
I think the bit about the IRST can be uncovered by taking a look at X-RAY for the TOR. It does not say it has a "Track Radar/IRST" , but instead "Track Radar/TV". This implies to me that it actually has no IR guidance mode and instead uses contrast like the early Mavericks and Walleyes. This would explain why it can't be used at night, as well as why it has trouble acquiring a lock while also not displaying distance (doesn't have a laser range finder to pair with it)
I think the Alt+L does that the mark on aircraft is that the missile flies where you point it, the mark in front of aircraft is that it will lead the missile in such a way that it hits the aircraft without manual input needed, not sure though.
Lmao I love how the pilot said "tor has op range" bro wanna talk about air to surface atgms with hella range? god some people in this community give me an aneurysm
Things will get out of Hand once ARH missile come into the game. LoaL would also be cool for stinger based systems, but probably not really fair. Once the Requirement for line of sight is gone, things quickly get out of hand. You fire a missile in the general direction of the target and boom, gone
i think we are going to need some anti radiation missiles now. That wont help with the IRST but if its inconsistent at range then some standoff power would be good.
''Tor-M1 is capable of engaging two missiles at one or two different targets. To do this, both targets must be in the 15x15 degree sector, and the second target has to be selected with the “Select Radar/IRST target to lock on” button.'' Does anyone here know how this works? I can get a lock on 2 targets that are close to each other. I can also switch between te targets with the select radar/irst target keybind. But I dont get how you fire 2 different missiles at 2 targets.
They meant two missiles, one of them following the other .. not both of them at the same exact moment as far as I understood. Similar to Hellfire when firing two missiles at two targets and there is 7 or 8 seconds between them.
@@Hunter_i86 inn the demo video it takes out two heli's with fast sequential launch, I too cannot for the life of me figure this out. Warthunder is crap for explaining how there systems work. honestly how hard would it be to demonstrate how systems work?
so i noticed something at 1:25 that being a different radar lock indicator, I've only seen this on the F-14 on TWS mode so does that mean the tor has something similar to TWS?
Can this thing detect drones? That’s my biggest question because no other SPAA I’ve used can properly see drones on radar due to where they spawn and it’s SO annoying getting killed by some dick in a mq-1 when I’m literally sitting in a flarakrad
No, you will not get RWR warning, and yesterday I was flying against a guy with TOR, he launched three missiles using the radar mode not IRST, I didn't get RWR warning too, we talked about it in the "All Chat", I don't know if it is a bug or not but the TOR lock mark is different, it is similar to TWS passive lock "The non-filled square shape", I was getting away from his missiles only because I was seeing the missile smoke trail, so I was just pulling off to get out of the 12km distance.
Do you have a sound mod installed or did they change the sound of helis flying nearby? That Z-19 at 2:02 sounds a lot different to what i remember, its a lot better.
هنتر انت عملاق عراقي و اعتقد الاول على العرب و التقفل عليه تحركه تحركه طبعا ماشاء الله و العين بارده اريد اعتب عليك عتب حبايب نريد حلقة عربية بيها معلومات عن هاي اللعبة لتقوية مجتمع العرب نريد ناسس جيش بينا و نشارك حروب وخطط
صديقي العزيز ممتن للتعليق الجميل والكلمات اللطيفة وأشكرك على المجاملة، بخصوص اقتراح حضرتك .. هو اقتراح جميل بالتأكيد ولكن قناتي هي قناة بدون تعليق صوتي، فما اعرف شلون رح اقدر افيد المتابعين العرب بمقاطع فيديو بدون صوت .. والتعليق الكتابي يعني ما ممكن نسهب بيه كثير .. هو مجرد رؤوس اقلام وافكار سريعة ومختصرة على اشياء محددة، ممكن يوماً ما اجرب اسجل فيديو + صوت ولكن ابداً مو اكيد .. تحياتي الك يا طيب
It's lock radar is very efficient.. You don't even need to find them... Just look at the radar then look at the direction in third person view and spam lock key.. It will acquire lock within 3 clicks... IRST is weak
the missile jump and the ignition sounds so good
Moin
@@wingmantv7470 Moin
Right? That was soooo cool! :D
Honestly the coolest SPAA in the game. The animation and sound is amazing, and watching those giant missiles zip towards the target with their big trails is quite the sight.
I had my volume all the way up to enjoy the sound of the missile being launched only to go deaf from the Chinese commander guy screaming at me
I knew the Tor-M1 was cool, but this is just too much. The way the missile launches up, then flips sideways and then activates it's engine is so satisfying. Same with the s300/400
Just wait till we get high off boresight air to air missiles
Bastion-P:
@@Faedz I didn't understand a word but I'm all for it
@@lucasmoreno2154 high off boresight means the missile is able to lock targets very far away from its boresight (The boresight being the area the missile sees when looking straight ahead) e.g. R-73 and AIM-9X
The problem is that in order to take real advantage of HOBS missiles we'd need some sort of HMD (Helmet Mounted Display) so you can lock people by looking around, unleashing the true capabilities of the high off boresight. Otherwise it'll just be like any other missile in the game but with better countermeasure resistance and more maneuverability
1:58 the heli wanted to see tor launch live 😂
This is essentially the first modern air defense in game. It’ll be cool if they’d add larger ground maps and things like the SA-3 and HAWK air defense in the future
The sa3 and hawk have to large of range for use in war thunder. Not only that but they are not independent vehicles they require multiple vehicles to work
hawk has a seperate radar and launch vehicle
Isnt the ADATS modern?
What would the HAWK gameplay would be ?
There are many modern anti aircraft shooters in the game wdym
@ 00:55 Thanks for showing the detail of the missle being fired from the SAM system. I have seen other people use this and we just see the missle flying from the target view.
I think the ALT+L feature is supposed to change how the missile guides, whether it uses its own radar to be FOX-1 or being guiding in by hand like all the other radar SPAA’s.
It changes the predictive flight path for the radar lock target. Its always mouse guided regardless, but your mouse will follow a radar lock so..
For the crosshair on top of target, it guides just like every other saclos missile. This is the least efficient of the 3, as the missile doesnt predict where the target will be.
For crosshair in front, it flies a little ahead of the radar lock and turns in toward the target when its about 0.5 km away from the target. This makes the flight path shorter in theory, but is easier to lose track on maneuvering target.
For crosshair next to, it does the same as the last one, but now the missile aims at a point between you and the target.
Theyre all different types of guidance and have advantages depending on the direction of the enemy in relation to you
Also quick thing, I could be wrong but I thought fox 1 is semi active radar homing which is the missile takes the information from the vehicle that fired it from its radar and not it’s own. If it had its own radar it would be a fox3
oh a furry :D
There is no FOX-1 here.) TOR does not use SARH missiles. It uses SACLOS. Radar on TOR is just another eye.
@@jayson3595 yes you're right
The only complaint I have for this is that it doesn't get thermals, it would make things much easier but I guess this might change once the Russian tech tree has it but other than that the TOR-M1 is as impressive as I expected it to be!
Im not sure but i believe i heard that the China Tor m1 in wt the first Version is
Maybe is the Tor m1 that russia gets the new one maybe with thermal
probably in TorM2
TOR-M2?
That poor recon drone got pulverized 7:40
That chinese audio scared the fuck out of me xD 1:13
Is the perfect combination Tor + Hunter I really enjoy this video thanks Hunter I need some training with you 😂
Really hope other SAMs also get that amazing sound that the TOR M1s missiles have
What is needed to counter this missile? The only weaknesses I see is the amount of smoke the missile produces and the slow initial launch.
A lot of chaff can break the lock, I saw some pilots successfully doing that while playing.
Split S, drop altitude and chaff. You either saturate the skies with aircraft, or your going to have to bait all 8 missiles.
Scared me there with the title for a min i thought they started ww3
ahh can't wait to see Pantsir-S1 and BUK-M3 added to WT
I love how people either know u and wanna say hi or wanna see u fire that bad ass thing xD
Recently as I finished my grind for the new abrams and my cadet mates came online, all 50 of us hoped online and created a operations custom.
we had Anti-air, helis, tanks and a few aircraft, with the 2 sides of this operation in Vietnam oh boy was it good, we had a sqdrn of our Ace of spades in the tomcats keeping air supremacy and we had some British Harriers keeping the ground clear of the other side with both the Chinese and Russian military.
We spent 7hrs playing this and we all enjoyed every last bit of it,
I found it really cool seeing the Anti air missiles coming from seemingly nowhere and coming in our direction.
Best game we’ve ever played together.
it's funny how people gathered around your radio station
Debating whether I should grind China or something wait till they plop this after the 2s6, I think the Chinese tree is gonna get real interesting if they decide to go gen 4.5+ on aircraft
China is looking good in War Thunder, they are getting a lot of love.
It should also be noted that the missiles of the 2s6 and the tor1m barely fit in 11.0, but they are kept there by the guns of the first and the radar of the second
I just like how the missile fly and launch out of the tank and also i like that your friend helicopter just say hi to you while you're targeting a fighter keep doing your good job have a nice day i'm by the way we have the same time i have that one also like it
Thanks a lot my friend :)
Seeing the rocket coming out of the tank is my new fetish
Finally, the 3rd person perspective on the launch. Love you, mate.
Hope you enjoyed it! :)
@@Hunter_i86 I did, thank you. ^^
finally a video for the Tor M1
Looking forward to HQ-17, equipped with Chinese phased array radar.
Currently Grinding China, looking forward to this!
Nice video Hunter, I gotta admit this thing is so cool when it launches it missile. I had the pleasure of playing a match with you yesterday on fields of Normandy, unfortunately we got our asses kicked lol 🤣
Nice to meet you my friend, thanks a lot :)
@@Hunter_i86 hopefully next time we meet we will be victorious
Now we need the 9K33 OSA in order for the air to be clear of flies :)
Was looking for some gameplay of the Z-10 following the changes it got thanks for the video.
Hey I'm really bad at the radar thing. Could you do a walk through on your set up?
I think the bit about the IRST can be uncovered by taking a look at X-RAY for the TOR. It does not say it has a "Track Radar/IRST" , but instead "Track Radar/TV". This implies to me that it actually has no IR guidance mode and instead uses contrast like the early Mavericks and Walleyes. This would explain why it can't be used at night, as well as why it has trouble acquiring a lock while also not displaying distance (doesn't have a laser range finder to pair with it)
Do flares work against this mode? Bc if it's a TV guidance type of thing theoretically they shouldn't
@@poopstick924 I would assume flares will do jack shit
The missile launch animation is sweet and the sounds ready great👍
Bro I thought this was real God damnit 🤣
I hope more radar SPAA's get added. IR mssiles just don't do anything.
I think the Alt+L does that the mark on aircraft is that the missile flies where you point it, the mark in front of aircraft is that it will lead the missile in such a way that it hits the aircraft without manual input needed, not sure though.
You are right, figured out that later.
Man I was quickly scrolling and read the title and was like well shit 😂
Lmao I love how the pilot said "tor has op range" bro wanna talk about air to surface atgms with hella range? god some people in this community give me an aneurysm
It is 12km, like FlaRakRad.
Gg Hunter u re the best i love ur videos👌✌
Things will get out of Hand once ARH missile come into the game. LoaL would also be cool for stinger based systems, but probably not really fair. Once the Requirement for line of sight is gone, things quickly get out of hand. You fire a missile in the general direction of the target and boom, gone
Stinger easly fooled by flares
Damn, that rocket launch animation is sooo goood
Hunter what's ur opinion on the new cannon sounds?
They ruined the sounds directions on ground and in air, this happens every time the renew the sounds so I hope they don't change it every two months.
@@Hunter_i86 i Noticed that most of the time now the sounds tends to lag behind the plane, like 6 meters behind the plane
The sounds are neat but the sound directions are ruined
6:44 Kind of cute how the BMP-2 stayed with you guys to defend against ground attack :D
And to defend against aerial targets as well, it has a secondary 10km missile and it has now a LOCK too.
VIP AA / U never be alone XD
An SPAA gets such attention lol, feels special.
The rocket motor noises are just 👌
i think we are going to need some anti radiation missiles now. That wont help with the IRST but if its inconsistent at range then some standoff power would be good.
I don't care about how good this is, with this badass cold launch tor is best SPAA in game
Hunter how would you compare manuvrability of Z10 vs Z19E? Is it worth the upgrade overall in your opinion?
Please bring more Z10 videos. Content is very lacking on YT about that chopper in actual pvp combat
Help team?
Nah I go say hi to Hunter
''Tor-M1 is capable of engaging two missiles at one or two different targets. To do this, both targets must be in the 15x15 degree sector, and the second target has to be selected with the “Select Radar/IRST target to lock on” button.''
Does anyone here know how this works? I can get a lock on 2 targets that are close to each other. I can also switch between te targets with the select radar/irst target keybind. But I dont get how you fire 2 different missiles at 2 targets.
They meant two missiles, one of them following the other .. not both of them at the same exact moment as far as I understood. Similar to Hellfire when firing two missiles at two targets and there is 7 or 8 seconds between them.
@@Hunter_i86 inn the demo video it takes out two heli's with fast sequential launch, I too cannot for the life of me figure this out. Warthunder is crap for explaining how there systems work. honestly how hard would it be to demonstrate how systems work?
Amazing as always hunter,
The only UA-camr whose videos i will always watch to the end
Thanks my friend for your kindness :)
gaijin only finished less than 50% of this aa...too simply and nerfed
One of the best spaa in game by far
i love using the TOR but theirs alot of flaws like the radar not being a 3rd person locking system
It can 3rd person lock target, you need to be at radar mode, not IRST.
@@Hunter_i86 cheese
too much tail smoke that I can not see the plane at all lol
Attention to the designated area
Hope russia will get tor in upcoming update i like how the missile being fired
Sorry for my bad english
They should add this to soviet tree I would buy it immediately
+1000000000000000 social credit well done comrade
The launch of every missile god dam
how are you able to track the target without having the lock? can the same be done with the flarakrad? where you dont have a fully closed box
What do you mean? I'm locking.
Nice work Hunter
Thanks a lot my friend :)
so i noticed something at 1:25 that being a different radar lock indicator, I've only seen this on the F-14 on TWS mode so does that mean the tor has something similar to TWS?
I think so yes. Seems like there's a search radar (the one that spins) and a lock radar (the square in front of the missile bay)
same
@@uncoussinbaka721 that’s how a couple of spaas in the game are
@@imafraud7413 really? I never noticed them having more than one radar "antenna". I'll pay more attention next time I'll play ^^
@@uncoussinbaka721 you’ll find it on the Gepard, OTOMATIC, the Japanese version of the Gepard, ZA-35, and maybe some more
Can you make a video describing the different missile guidance modes?
Yup!
The Drone Age is over.
Can this thing detect drones? That’s my biggest question because no other SPAA I’ve used can properly see drones on radar due to where they spawn and it’s SO annoying getting killed by some dick in a mq-1 when I’m literally sitting in a flarakrad
I remember I saw one drone, by naked eyes .. not by radar.
@Kashgari so no drones are still broken in game
Russia has a solid Premium line up with the T-72 T-URMS the 2S38 and the SU 25K (alternative the tech tree SU 25) and MI 24V or P
Hunter Question, when you lock on with irst will my aircraft get radar lock warning? Or just radar blips
No, you will not get RWR warning, and yesterday I was flying against a guy with TOR, he launched three missiles using the radar mode not IRST, I didn't get RWR warning too, we talked about it in the "All Chat", I don't know if it is a bug or not but the TOR lock mark is different, it is similar to TWS passive lock "The non-filled square shape", I was getting away from his missiles only because I was seeing the missile smoke trail, so I was just pulling off to get out of the 12km distance.
@@Hunter_i86 thank you
they seems to have fixe the strange behaviour of the missile. In devserv, he was so wiggly
The missile is so intimidating when it fires
Cool vehicle but that missile smoke and low g overload really prevent it from been useful against jets
I like modern Russian SPAAs, this is the coolest one so far.
Seems to be very good at its job. Now I kinda want to see you play against one on a jet or helicopter.
Didn’t see it was you hunter, I thought China actually declared No Fly Zone 😂
LoL I got you :D
the sounds are amazing, just wish they fixed the sounds for all the other kinds of launchers
Do you have a sound mod installed or did they change the sound of helis flying nearby? That Z-19 at 2:02 sounds a lot different to what i remember, its a lot better.
The Chinese helicopters have their own new sound that was updated before the patch hit.
@@Kwisss oh cool, thanks for the answer
That kid in the heli really wanted to be in your video I guess
Met you yesterday on Normandy. I was the FlaRakRad.
Nice :)
What are key bindings you use to camera track the missile
I thought this thing is Fire and Forget?
It looks fun but no thermals sounds painful
Should we be surprised that it’s in the Chinese tech tree rather than the Russian one?
Yeah its only a matter of time before we start seeing ARMs and HTS pods 😈
Countermeasures seem to be completely ineffective?
Everyone is bitching about this thing being OP while flying sky high... bitch, fly low and flank attack it, after that fly high as long as you want
It is 12km, just like the FlaRakRad .. only the German one has better IRST, faster and difficult to spot missile.
@@Hunter_i86 exactly
social credit score for hunter: +20 points 😀👍
what is that thing at the end of the bar at the bottom of the screen i forgot what it’s called
I love your Videos😘
why they gave it to china but not for russia?
the question is... can you spot drones on that radar?
Nope :(
Yes, Look careful, it see, lock and destroy recon drone in this very video
@@onerxowns2202 nah, recon drones can be spotted on every radar, those don't matter. We are talking about missile drones.
They have to add SEAD now,its about time.
literally no fly zone
هنتر انت عملاق عراقي و اعتقد الاول على العرب و التقفل عليه تحركه تحركه طبعا ماشاء الله و العين بارده اريد اعتب عليك عتب حبايب نريد حلقة عربية بيها معلومات عن هاي اللعبة لتقوية مجتمع العرب نريد ناسس جيش بينا و نشارك حروب وخطط
صديقي العزيز ممتن للتعليق الجميل والكلمات اللطيفة وأشكرك على المجاملة، بخصوص اقتراح حضرتك .. هو اقتراح جميل بالتأكيد ولكن قناتي هي قناة بدون تعليق صوتي، فما اعرف شلون رح اقدر افيد المتابعين العرب بمقاطع فيديو بدون صوت .. والتعليق الكتابي يعني ما ممكن نسهب بيه كثير .. هو مجرد رؤوس اقلام وافكار سريعة ومختصرة على اشياء محددة، ممكن يوماً ما اجرب اسجل فيديو + صوت ولكن ابداً مو اكيد ..
تحياتي الك يا طيب
so how about the struggle of night? who can locate that heli and jets exactly by this aa?
Use the radar and click in the direction until you get radar lock
It's lock radar is very efficient.. You don't even need to find them... Just look at the radar then look at the direction in third person view and spam lock key.. It will acquire lock within 3 clicks...
IRST is weak
Whats the range of the Tor m1?
12km
The vertical angle of view of the radar does not change to 60 degrees ? The developers mentioned such a function
How to do that?! Maybe the antenna elevation option? Will check.
why they added this for chinese tree not USSR first?
Cause they needed it more?
this is very cool but idk how they can dodge that ... and for tor-m1 you dont need any skilly baby can do this
can you use it for air to ground? like make money that way