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  • @suitbanter1851
    @suitbanter1851 Рік тому +1814

    The missile "jumping" before firing off is called cold launching. You guessed correctly, the missiles are launched through gas (the gas isn't actually in the missiles, it's through a gas chamber below the missile itself.) One of the benefits of cold launching over hot launching (the rocket engine activating within the vertical launch tube) is in the event of a launch and the missile engine malfunctions, they can eject the missile to avoid it exploding inside.

    • @nicazer
      @nicazer Рік тому +107

      Another benefit of cold launching is having a smaller effect on the radar equipment. Hot launching that close to the radar reciever can mess with with the incoming data and possibly lose the lock if the missile is slaved to the vehicle's radar

    • @matthewdukes3207
      @matthewdukes3207 Рік тому +42

      Not to mention the fact that an object at rest tends to stay at rest. The most inefficient part of any rocket launch is imparting that initial velocity, so if the rocket's already moving when the engine ignites, it wastes less propellant.

    • @nmspy
      @nmspy Рік тому +3

      I dont think itd be too different, the initial momentum is upward, the rocket motor would still need to use as much energy to get it into motion, especially considering the TOR missile weight

    • @yurikostenko4110
      @yurikostenko4110 Рік тому +10

      And I should note that this is a fairly popular launch method in Russian missile systems. It is used in most anti-air missiles, in ICBMs, in different sea-based missiles and so on.

    • @90enemies
      @90enemies Рік тому +10

      It also makes reusing the launch tube a lot cheaper and easier because you dont even need to maintain it often unlike Hot Launch.

  • @nikiforosspyropoulos2756
    @nikiforosspyropoulos2756 Рік тому +1508

    The missile moving so erratically is giving me major anxiety

    • @pileOgames
      @pileOgames Рік тому +59

      Mostly phrom the server replay. In game its smoother lol

    • @devenirpyro
      @devenirpyro Рік тому +81

      It knows where it is because it knows where it isn't

    • @yureinobbie68
      @yureinobbie68 Рік тому +9

      I thought it was a stock market curve phrom the side xD

    • @jansimek8816
      @jansimek8816 Рік тому +37

      The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
      In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.

    • @Lord_Of_Spoon
      @Lord_Of_Spoon Рік тому +8

      It's just doing the owl thing to increase its depth perception.

  • @Getoffmycloud53
    @Getoffmycloud53 Рік тому +835

    04:58 “The missile predicts where you are at all times. It knows this because it predicts where you are not…”

    • @patrickbateman4148
      @patrickbateman4148 Рік тому +17

      Misquote

    • @yourallygod8261
      @yourallygod8261 Рік тому +57

      the missle knows where it is by knowing where it isn't
      for anyone feeling like it wasn't sounding right the way this commenter said it >:(

    • @cloaker7237
      @cloaker7237 Рік тому +16

      The missile knows where it is at all times
      It know this, because it knows where it isn’t.

    • @jblob5764
      @jblob5764 Рік тому +16

      @@patrickbateman4148 duh... Was edited for the situation

    • @carter8292
      @carter8292 Рік тому

      🤓

  • @blueskiestrevor5200
    @blueskiestrevor5200 Рік тому +345

    An advantage to a VLS (vertical launch) system like is is that you can fire multiple missiles rapidly in multiple directions without the turret needing to move. This makes sense when you understand that a big part of Tor's mission is to shoot down waves of inbound cruise missiles.

  • @Banjax007
    @Banjax007 Рік тому +129

    “The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, the system commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. The position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.”

  • @KampfTiger1
    @KampfTiger1 Рік тому +345

    Actually the RIM-24a are the biggest Surface to Air Missiles, its on the USS Douglas. Could be a cool video idea.

    • @PhlyDaily
      @PhlyDaily  Рік тому +218

      👁👄👁

    • @toasteroven6761
      @toasteroven6761 Рік тому +39

      ​@@PhlyDaily 590 Kg of CAS Pain...
      And the missiles will only get bigger, imagine when SM-2 or even the SM-6 missile enters the game on
      DDGs...

    • @_jagerbomb
      @_jagerbomb Рік тому

      🤓

    • @thunderwrld
      @thunderwrld Рік тому +2

      @@toasteroven6761 Sm2 and sm6 will be op no matter what dude

    • @molstad182
      @molstad182 Рік тому +7

      @@_jagerbomb cornball+cringe+L

  • @arcturus960
    @arcturus960 Рік тому +60

    Forgot to mention that the TOR can lock onto two targets at once and quickly switch between which is being tracked

    • @IvanTre
      @IvanTre Рік тому +2

      Does this work in the game too ?

  • @vannlo355
    @vannlo355 Рік тому +171

    I feel like when it launches out it's fins are pointed in a specific way to allow it to turn before the motor fires

    • @jacobdewey2053
      @jacobdewey2053 Рік тому +17

      Most systems like this use a set of thrusters in a cap on the nose to orient the missile before firing the main motor. You can actually see them fire in real-life videos of systems like this.

    • @vannlo355
      @vannlo355 Рік тому +4

      @@jacobdewey2053 I see, I was just taking a guess

    • @jacobdewey2053
      @jacobdewey2053 Рік тому +5

      @@vannlo355 No worries! Just thought I'd chime in with some knowledge

    • @hf117j
      @hf117j Рік тому +3

      It's a good guess, the main thing you forgot to account for is that at speeds that low with the weight it has, it probably wouldn't have enough airspeed over the fins to orient it until the motor fires

    • @Fantastic_Mr_Fox
      @Fantastic_Mr_Fox Рік тому +1

      @@vannlo355 I made the same guess as you originally, but looked at some footage and you can clearly see the jets on the nose, it's really cool

  • @mr.snidor1773
    @mr.snidor1773 Рік тому +16

    So we are just ignoring the fact that he uses UA-cam white mode....

  • @ideadlift20kg83
    @ideadlift20kg83 Рік тому +43

    It's meant to shoot down multiple targets at the same time which is why it has the launch system. It means it can just pop a missile and have the tiny rocket shove it in the right direction without turning the turret.

  • @konstantin88181
    @konstantin88181 Рік тому +21

    1:34 this is for firing from closed positions, when surrouded by trees, or rocks or buildings. Rescently there is a video appeared where "Pancyr" shoots at multiple targets from closed positions and one of rockets just hits near building just because of this reason - tilted missile launcher. Also Tor's missiles are much heavier, so this vertical lounching position is it's key feauture.

  • @cadet5126
    @cadet5126 Рік тому +3

    As dcs pilot and study of missile evasion i can tell you can hit the dive to bamboozle missile dive into the ground killing itself. Second tactic is to notch which is pointing your wing at the threat (you know when you're 90° degrees to threat site from RWR) 3rd tactic is weaving which happens turning side to side as you're chaffing. Tactic for those fighters or players that doesn't have chaff against SAMs like Tor is to go back dive to treetop level and weave but do not turn hard or you'll lose speed and become vulnerable to missile. TOR missiles can be independent which means even it's host lose lock on you the missile itself sees you but if you do many evasive actions you will likely break it's lock because it's too much for it or it self destruct due to it's low energy it had to bleed because it tries always get ahead of you.

  • @theegunpro4561
    @theegunpro4561 Рік тому +34

    The vertical launch really reminds me of the submarines from back in the day

    • @arcturus960
      @arcturus960 Рік тому +4

      @twerking bollocks he’s talking about the April fools event for I think 2020

  • @gamblerik9723
    @gamblerik9723 Рік тому +20

    the missiles are stored in the middle because it is protected and its better than having 8 unprotected missles at your back that everyone can see.

  • @turtlepowa
    @turtlepowa Рік тому +30

    This AA to be honest feels like and underground missile base for some reason
    I am glad you are back

  • @doorlock4631
    @doorlock4631 Рік тому +28

    5:23 ; A missle knows where it is, by subtracting where it isnt….

    • @Getoffmycloud53
      @Getoffmycloud53 Рік тому +1

      You beat me to it 😂

    • @IndigoSolution
      @IndigoSolution Рік тому +7

      The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
      In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
      The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

    • @Rickyp0123
      @Rickyp0123 Рік тому +2

      @@IndigoSolution That was a freaking great read. Thank you sir or madam.

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Рік тому +2

      @@IndigoSolution This is why mathematicians shouldn't explain things until they're forced to get an A in their language courses.

  • @noahwipert3688
    @noahwipert3688 Рік тому +216

    So glad your back Phly, we all missed you!

    • @IAteYourCookiez
      @IAteYourCookiez Рік тому +2

      Yes

    • @tobi2233
      @tobi2233 Рік тому +5

      Chill it’s not like he came back from the dead

    • @bungojerry9297
      @bungojerry9297 Рік тому +3

      People have been commenting this since he came back. "it's time to stop"-filthy frank

    • @Marin3r101
      @Marin3r101 Рік тому +3

      You're as in you are back Your back would imply you are talking about his back.... that would just be weird.

    • @FillyCheesteak
      @FillyCheesteak Рік тому +1

      You’re

  • @ionator2000ist
    @ionator2000ist Рік тому +11

    Another to keep in mind is the TOR-1 in warthunder is nerfed to be usable in warthunder. They can shoot out to like 20-25 almost 30 miles.

    • @sunshadow7XK
      @sunshadow7XK Рік тому +2

      >Nerfed to be useable
      God I hate this. People want tanks, but then when they behave like actual tanks they act like babies.

    • @shadowconquer-yv5yd
      @shadowconquer-yv5yd 9 місяців тому

      @@sunshadow7XK 🤓It's an SPAA. Also what can you do, it's a multiplayer game.

  • @mekset4135
    @mekset4135 Рік тому +4

    5:27 „The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't by subtracting where it is from...“

  • @MrOiram46
    @MrOiram46 Рік тому +8

    I remember the Tor-M1 was also in the original MW2 during “Contingency” mission, it’s the one that shoots down the 1st Predator drone that you use in the mission when you reach the top of a hill overlooking a village

    • @bohdannikitin9119
      @bohdannikitin9119 Рік тому +1

      You could destroy it before it shoots down drone btw

  • @rayotoxi1509
    @rayotoxi1509 Рік тому +2

    1:45 its launches it vertical becuse the soviet wanted to have a Sam system that cann engage targets 90 degree over it the search radar even looks up you cann see the small extention on the radar angled upwards so you cann scan for targets above you and shoot them

  • @vdq
    @vdq Рік тому +12

    You have been back a while now but I cannot explain how much excitement I still feel seeing a new video

  • @xRxSxFx2xPxGx
    @xRxSxFx2xPxGx Рік тому +2

    i think in addition to what others have said about firing multiple rockets at once at different targets, the VLS allows it to be better hidden or camouflaged say if in a clearing in the woods or in a courtyard in a clump of buildings in a small town, if working in tandem with separate radar entities it can fire without needing a direct line of sight without giving away where it launched from .

  • @zer0neverer098
    @zer0neverer098 21 день тому +1

    On the strategy to evade the missile, there's a certain turret in Space Engineers iirc, that fires into the predicted future position of a ship based on it's vectors movement.
    The way it's usually avoided is with a screewdriver/vortex type of forward movement, which often results in complete and continous missing of the target.
    The danger of this method is if the object under our control moves completely straight and is, in fact, only rotating, our ass *will* get nae nae'd.
    If one would say, learn how to perform a controlled stall turn from screwdriver or vortex forward movement, without falling out of the sky due to loss of lift, that could be one of the ways to dodge, because the missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviation to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and if follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it know where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

  • @FredRated1967
    @FredRated1967 Рік тому +2

    Yeah, usually for a launch like that, they use some kind of compressed gas to give the initial boost before the missile's motor ignites.

  • @lucian9685
    @lucian9685 Рік тому +2

    I guess the main benefit VLS (vertical launch system) is that its easy to reload and you can store more munitions without the need of complex reloading equipment like that used in rail and tube launched systems. It would be the same for naval ships using VLS, Plus extra credit for looking cool af

  • @EraOfJack
    @EraOfJack Рік тому +1

    Stacking the missiles vertically allows you to fit for more missiles, especially when they're that big. The missile system was designed to house the missiles inside to protect them mainly from the environment so feasible way to house them sideways. You have to do verticle.

  • @whatinthefuckisahandle
    @whatinthefuckisahandle Рік тому +1

    5:26 I was kinda expecting to hear "the missile knows where it is" not gonna lie😂

  • @phats701
    @phats701 Рік тому +1

    I love the replay analysis - always wanted to re-watch some of your good kills, so i'm here for it!!

  • @ZengoOshiba
    @ZengoOshiba Рік тому +5

    8:44 is basically the only time I have ever heard Phly genuinely scared from seeing a team mate die.

  • @edgelordcutting
    @edgelordcutting Рік тому +1

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.

  • @spit782
    @spit782 Рік тому +1

    5:27 The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"

  • @gabrieleramian591
    @gabrieleramian591 Рік тому

    19:05 something you can do to dodge modern air défense missiles is called notching and it implies flying perpendicular to the missile while launching flares and chaff. This makes it harder for the missile to track the target. I don’t know if it’s modeled in the game but I would hope so

  • @ExcavationNation
    @ExcavationNation Рік тому +1

    Phly it flips over in the beginning bc The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation.

  • @21Walls
    @21Walls Рік тому +4

    I think the reason the missiles are missing/snaking hard and losing energy is because Phly is switching out of auto mode. In the lead mode, every small change in target direction at long range makes the missile veer hard to keep leading with each slight move. The target burns very little energy but the missile burns a lot of energy. In auto mode, I suspect the missile will use the most energy saving mode until it's close enough that the lead mode will not cause wild deviations in its course.

  • @TheNecromancer6666
    @TheNecromancer6666 Рік тому +1

    The VLS in the Tor is the most efficient way to Shoot 360 and to store missile. Same reason, why most ships have VLS.
    The Tor flipps with manouver Jets.

  • @DraconX3
    @DraconX3 Рік тому +2

    5:23 The missile knows where it is >.>`....

  • @BallisticAero
    @BallisticAero Рік тому

    Seeing ppl in a cobra let along in 11.0 pop off always makes me happy. That thing usually gets ripped apart like wet paper before it's even 2 km to the battlefield

  • @anthonyfarrell7720
    @anthonyfarrell7720 Рік тому +1

    I look forward to seeing the Type 93 and the Tor-M1 chilling together on the battlefield, despite being on opposite teams.

  • @edisontrent5244
    @edisontrent5244 Рік тому +58

    A anti tank version would be interesting

  • @C10_WN
    @C10_WN Рік тому +3

    Oh nice it was the newest SPAA

  • @dylandaugherity4041
    @dylandaugherity4041 Рік тому +2

    I forgot how much phly daddy makes me appreciate the small things in warthunder

  • @soy_sauce.19
    @soy_sauce.19 Рік тому +2

    Man I can't say how much I have missed the daily uploads from daddy Phly ;)

  • @TheClutchCaleb
    @TheClutchCaleb Рік тому

    BEYOND happy to see Phly in my feed. Working from home feels good again!

  • @darthkarl99
    @darthkarl99 Рік тому

    As others have explained it's meant to engage multiple targets and in the real world it will often get the radar data from a different entity so it doesn't need it's own radar to guide the missles. Imagine if helicopter base AA put an F-14 style track while scan lock on anything that came too close that you could use in warthunder terms.

  • @Echo_4609
    @Echo_4609 Рік тому +1

    If this is anything like the Little Bird we can almost NEVER expect this AA to be added into it's real country's tech tree

  • @America_Yea
    @America_Yea Рік тому +1

    From what I've heard those are the same vertical missiles designed for ship use and are mortar fired before igniting the secondary systems so as to not damage delicate radar or other systems or personnel with the backblast.

    • @America_Yea
      @America_Yea Рік тому +1

      Cold launch is also used for this but with these particular systems if you look closely there is smoke from the lofting charge ejected with the launch of the missile. It's cheaper and far more reliable as a closed system than having to maintain compressed air under tge launch systems.

  • @nathanbennett5639
    @nathanbennett5639 Рік тому +2

    That rocket has so much energy!

  • @michaelbeiler7164
    @michaelbeiler7164 Рік тому +5

    Man i really wish i knew your key bindings, id love to know what you have and maybe if it suits me set mine up kinda similar

  • @bIuebuIIet
    @bIuebuIIet Рік тому +1

    The "lead" mode is meant to be used against missiles. Standard tracking is fine for aircraft as at the very least you'll destroy the engines and it'll crash. With a missiles, primarily with WMDs, you need to destroy the warhead as destroying with tank/body will in most cases allow the warhead to continue on its flight trajectory. The SAM will explode in front of the target sending the energy and shrapnel either into the incoming missile or sort of make a flak cloud of shrapnel that will detonate the warhead as it passes through the cloud. Think of it like a guidable Flak gun from WW2: you want to lead your target to kill it. It works foe aircraft too but it's not necessary
    That's the dumbed down explanation at least. "Lead" for missiles, "trail" for aircraft.

  • @BirdiesGoCherp
    @BirdiesGoCherp Рік тому +2

    The reason the launch sounds like the torpedo is because they're both metal tubes grinding against their metal launcher.

  • @ZackBadCompany1234
    @ZackBadCompany1234 Рік тому +15

    I think phly need to watch the s550 launch lol if he wants his mind blown

  • @TURAMOTH
    @TURAMOTH Рік тому +1

    I felt the pain in phly’s scream when Daniel died

  • @cakeadventure8412
    @cakeadventure8412 Рік тому

    5:28 "The missile knows where..." oh here we go again lol

  • @LifeOfExo
    @LifeOfExo Рік тому +1

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't and, arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation; the variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it isn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it, too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

  • @thevortex6754
    @thevortex6754 Рік тому

    I believe why the missiles are launched like that is because navy ships like the Arleigh Burke class has a VLS and you can carry so many missiles with less moving parts. So in reality the Tor-2 is a small, mobile land VLS for AA use.
    That’s my reasoning, since the arm carrying design like on some of the AA like the ADATs??? Idk haven’t gotten that far in the game yet, but it was very complex on ships and could only carry a couple missiles and had a long, complex reload time

  • @olischwarz2912
    @olischwarz2912 Рік тому

    The reason for the vertical tubes is because it is more efficient. If you look at most of the Naval Vessels (Russian, American etc) they have the capability for a VLS (Vertical launch system). It can also mean that you can change the type of missile in the case of something like a Ticonderoga class cruiser. Instead of having Anti-Air SM-6's it could have Tomahawk cruise missiles instead in the same tubes that the SM-6's would be in. It is overall just a better and more efficient way of launching missiles.

  • @tigaboss5806
    @tigaboss5806 Рік тому

    I’m so happy you played this I was waiting for a video on it! Great video❤

  • @MrTAGGER88
    @MrTAGGER88 Рік тому +1

    My sanity break from war thunder ended perfectly in time for phly's return as well! What a sick coincidence

  • @husarzzpolski3424
    @husarzzpolski3424 Рік тому +1

    The missle knows where it is at all time.

  • @sweatybotfn9982
    @sweatybotfn9982 11 місяців тому +1

    It’s a cold launch, compressed air from inside the launch module pushes the missile out just like on the a submarine

  • @michajastrzebski4383
    @michajastrzebski4383 Рік тому

    yeah, that VLS is a gas generator pushing the missile out, then using gas thrusters on the missile to orient before lighting its main engine.

  • @matthewhall9530
    @matthewhall9530 Рік тому

    I’m guessing the missiles turn with the turret so the tip function can work without having to spin the missile and then tip it. Makes the launch system and sequence a little less complicated at least in theory. Don’t know how they achieve the tip other than maybe whatever force pushes it out the tube is slightly off center so it doesn’t throw it straight up.

  • @11Tits
    @11Tits Рік тому

    Tor (SA-15) is the best. Such a lovely SAM system. They launch vls to save space and for protection from blast.
    Also you can as in game track and destroy incoming missiles as the system was designed for.
    The 9M330/1 missile have a large proxi to hit these types of objects

  • @nightbird351
    @nightbird351 Рік тому +7

    anytime i see Phly play WT.... i get motivated log in , get destroyed.annihilated... delete game and dedicate myself to watch these vids 😀😅

  • @galacticmarshin4510
    @galacticmarshin4510 Рік тому +1

    Honestly this is such a cool AA that I would not mind seeing another video

  • @ErikHusky
    @ErikHusky Рік тому +2

    Make a video about how the SU-11 is the most broken thing in air RB at 7.0. (attempt 5)

  • @goose8818
    @goose8818 Рік тому +2

    Phly I just wanted you to know that I’ve been watching you ever since I started playing war thunder about 5 years ago and I just wanna say that all of your videos make me happy and laugh even when I’m sick or having a bad day so thank you❤
    (R.I.P Daniel)😢

  • @milesv5579
    @milesv5579 Рік тому

    We love that your back. Also reminds me of Destroyers missile launches nowadays

  • @mr.stealyourgirl1104
    @mr.stealyourgirl1104 Рік тому

    Them Missiles rly saying
    "Good bye have a great time"

  • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
    @DUKE_of_RAMBLE Рік тому +1

    Genuinely, thank you for the replay footage! ❤️
    I really enjoy being able to appreciate your work from other angles and slow-mo. 👍
    Also, that last death where you claimed cheater, I dunno if it was the right class (recon), but, could he have had a drone to be scouting the area with? 🤔

  • @benjamingunn5403
    @benjamingunn5403 Рік тому

    Thank you for showing the comparision between the real and game SAM system. I think they really need to improve on the sound effects and detail of weapons being fired in this game.

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Рік тому

    vls'es normally don't take up so much space and especially with rotating platforms it minimizes the moment of inertia, so let's it turn more easily

  • @thunderclipper
    @thunderclipper Рік тому

    literally looking at the xray you can deduce its the length of the missile. Also mounting them on the turret puts a ton of weight that's required to spin with the turret and track vehicles.

  • @hopeful_devoid6598
    @hopeful_devoid6598 Рік тому

    This missed system is meant to intercept fast moving targets in a short distance. It doesn't does well against aircraft with a large degree of maneuverability such as drones and helicopters. Also it is easily distracted by missiles since the computer prioritizes them.

  • @thomaszhang3101
    @thomaszhang3101 Рік тому +1

    The missile is launched like this so that it can fire while the turret is not pointing at the enemy.
    The missiles can first fly towards the rough location of the enemy via intertidal guidance and then get guidance by the turret when the turret has turned towards the enemy. It just saves a few seconds of reaction time really.

    • @whoknows8864
      @whoknows8864 Рік тому

      Then why launch the missles from the turret if the advantage is that the turret can turn to lock afterwards?

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 Рік тому

      @@whoknows8864 because you need a big turret anyways, to house the fire control radar and optics, and the missiles is very long so has to be at the center of the vehicle, then why not put it at the middle of the turret and make it turn with the turret?

    • @whoknows8864
      @whoknows8864 Рік тому

      @@thomaszhang3101 Because it adds unnecessary complexity and cost to do it. Although, it does make sense that the missles are too long to be anywhere else. That slipped my mind.

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 Рік тому +1

      @@whoknows8864 haha the last things to worry about in a Russia vehicle are cost and complexity 😂
      Sometimes it’s a little too simple, almost primitive

    • @whoknows8864
      @whoknows8864 Рік тому

      @@thomaszhang3101 for their small arms, sure. But as far has vehicles go? The fancy autoloaders and putting the missles in the turret are a little contradictory to simplicity.

  • @PrivatePAuLa29a
    @PrivatePAuLa29a Рік тому

    Why it's VLS? My best guess would be easier to engage in any direction when the launcher is slaved into an external radar.
    With the VLS the missile can go in any directions, so the turret does not have to "look" at the intended target.
    And afaik the missiles have small boosters (like the RCS boosters on the space shuttle) in the nose to point the tip in the right direction after ejection.

  • @magicintelligence6625
    @magicintelligence6625 Рік тому +1

    That chopper...looks like a Daniel Tiger in the neighborhood.

  • @renemartinez3203
    @renemartinez3203 Рік тому

    The part got me when he said it sounds like a nuclear , sounds like a torpedo && it really does too 😭😭😭😭

  • @jessiesmoak3380
    @jessiesmoak3380 Рік тому

    yes its called a cold launch. they use a form on compressed gas to launch the missel from the tube then the missel fires its main engines

  • @sniperinstinctxdestinator8670

    "The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't."😂

  • @foamyflightmaster9385
    @foamyflightmaster9385 Рік тому

    Great to see you back in the thick of the action 🎬.

  • @superbrain3848
    @superbrain3848 Рік тому +1

    Chaff should work a bit wiith the Missile.
    will be kinda intresting if they add Electronic warfare as a aspect to the game, radar jammer pods can help with evading this kind of missiles, since it will deny the radar ranging informations

  • @alaskanbas6507
    @alaskanbas6507 Рік тому

    In real life one of the ways to evade such a leading missile is by doing large high-speed loops perpendicular to the line between the missile's origin and the point where you were before starting the evasive maneuver. So in case of heading towards the SAM, you quickly turn 90 degrees and then enter the loop

  • @jamesreilly328
    @jamesreilly328 Рік тому

    Launch system looks like some guided missile cruiser silos. Maybe they’re building in here for the day when we get modern naval?

  • @darkmosino4874
    @darkmosino4874 Рік тому

    5:25 The missile knows where you are at all times, it knows this because it knows where you will be.

  • @spawnzrage1
    @spawnzrage1 Рік тому

    if its long range you need to dive down and use the terrain for cover, because of the predicting nature it will slam into the ground if done correctly or hit a hill.

  • @OnlyonXBOXONE
    @OnlyonXBOXONE Рік тому

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is.

  • @poisonarc
    @poisonarc Рік тому

    Cold launched missiles don't kick up a bunch of dust. There's other benefits too ofc.

  • @marklipsinic7916
    @marklipsinic7916 Рік тому

    It's basically a vertical box launcher on tracks. Just imagine if the USA used its Standard VBL missle system and put it in a tracked or wheeled vehicle system.

  • @Nick-rs5if
    @Nick-rs5if Рік тому

    "The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't"
    😂

  • @die4G
    @die4G Рік тому +1

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't

  • @brianv1988
    @brianv1988 Рік тому

    It's basically like a dry launch system uses gases to propel it up before it Fires it's rocket engines .Russian ships use the same technique to launch their missiles from the VLS. it's basically so if the rocket malfunctions it is not activated and fall like a dud but I could be wrong about that part

  • @dimgl19
    @dimgl19 Рік тому

    5:26 THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS BECAUSE IT KNOWS WHERE IT ISN'T.

  • @chris15782
    @chris15782 Рік тому +5

    I just gotta say, it is so nice to have you back man! I don’t even play war thunder anymore and you make me laugh out loud and shout at the screen every time you post a video. Thanks for doing what you do man!

  • @BrewBlaster
    @BrewBlaster Рік тому

    It's like lighting a bottle rocket in your hand and tossing it up right as the fuse gets near the end.

  • @gdawg4412
    @gdawg4412 Рік тому

    love when you show the replays. GG

  • @CN_MightyDragon
    @CN_MightyDragon Рік тому

    "Oh my god Daniel, Oh, Daniel, Daneilll!"😂😂😂

  • @wadball
    @wadball Рік тому

    17:04 the 2S6 jumps in from hyperspace lol

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Рік тому

    18:10 the thing is, AGM 65's are fire and forget, unlike your missiles