You'd think after Illidan literally stayed behind to kept Sargeras imprisoned that'd be proof enough that everything he did was to save Azeroth Tyrande: "Hmm I just don't know...." seriously?
The real reason Malfurion turned against him was jealously that he would lose Tyrande and his position to his brother because he was a more dedicated, worthy person in almost every way. They had to retcon Illidain in the books and the expansion in Wow to make Malfurion not look outright evil for what he did to Illidain, but I consider that all fluff not cannon since Blizzard has ignored its book lore in the past and the expansion is inconsistent with all the other depictions of Illidain. In the original story of WC3 Malfurion is a vain and capricious ruler who never cares about anyone unless its a chance to make himself the center of attention or its about Tyrande, and even then he's still fine jerking off for 1000 years dreaming while all of the women of their species are forced to stay awake and guard the sleeping men in a giant dream world where they can have sex with images of elven women a perk which Malfurion fully takes advantage of with Tyrandes image as stated by him upon awakening. Meanwhile Illidain is willingly staying imprisoned while he has the power to break out at any time so that he can serve his people again when the Demons return, which he does despite his hatred towards Malfurions unjust betrayal and then when Malfurion condems him once again out of jealousy and spite he still obeys his brother and accepts his judgment even though he could have reduced Malfurion in to a smoldering pile of ashes in front of Tyrande, which he would have completely deserved.
Illidan is not needed. He is doing what he wants. T'he pantheon is enough to keep Sargeras imprisoned, Illidan is only satysfing his Revenge fantasies .
This demonstrates clearly that Illidan has grown far more as an individual than Tyrande and Malfurion, who both can't seem to put the past behind them. Illidan has not only forgiven them both, but also understands that there are more important things in life than grudges- And this is coming from the guy wielding dark powers but for his own beliefs, who refuses to buckle to anything less than what he deems worthy of his own merit. (Look at that smile in the thumbnail. This guy is truely content.) Tyrande and Malfurion don't deserve Illidan, Tyrande especially. She seems pretty psychotic thesedays anyway, and I can't help but feel Illidan dodged a bullet!
Illidain has always been the bigger man. He willingly stayed imprisoned for 10000 years when he had the power to escape just so he could be available when the Burning Legion returned, meanwhile Malfurion and all the other elf men were in the Green Dream living out a fantasy where they could conjure the images of elf women and have sex with them, all while the actual elf women had to guard, shelter, and go without any male sex or attention for 1000 years. The demographic damage alone from that 1 decision marks Malfurion as an incompetent ruler. When you throw in how he imprisoned, betrayed and humiliated Illidain multiple times out of jealousy over Tyrande even though he already had her. Malfurion is like the cliche villain from an opera ruining the heroes life and bringing them to tragedy purely out of jealousy. The fact that Illidain isn't remembered as the true hero of Azeroth and Malfurion is one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in the whole series. Illidain was also a more talented ruler and conquered an entire planet and actually could have destroyed nerzhul once and for all if Malfurion had not interfered because of his emotions over Tyrande. Malfurion is the most worthless and incompetent ruler in the entire series and after she slaughtered the wardens Tyrande is a legit traitor and evil person who never gets held accountable. They deserve each other but poor Illidain deserved better than either of them.
Such a superficial vision. Think about this: characters don't know everything like us. Also, Illidan has always been a disgustive liar until the end, Who never told anyone his secrets. Malfurion's reaction is Just perfect: he knows that his Brother did certain things, but he already forgave him in the past and he remembers the Good old days. Tyrande does not know how see the message, because Illidan is a jerkish liar. Therefore, their reactions are appropriate. Illidan never had the Power to escape his his prison, he managed to do It only After Tyrande weakened the magical barriers wich hold him back. And Remember: Illidan is not Dead. This is not a Sacrifice. Why they should cry for somebody Who is still alive? They do not Need to be forgiven, because they did nothing wrong. Illidan was imprisoned because he condemned the world. And the eye of Sargeras... Even the retcon could not repair this.
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@@petersander5802 There were no innocents in Illidan´s path. The wardens were the closer to being innocent, but then again, they were trying to stop/imprison Illidan, and the guy spent 10 thousand years in a dark cage without being capable of killing himself, and to top it, he was imprisioned even if he was the actual reason the Legion didnt out right conquer Azeroth, killing them was pretty mild for a Stormrage tbh.
@@xanderguldie They both could have admitted that even though he was eccentric and took drastic measures, he did what he did in order to save his world rather than rule it. At the very least they could've said that they knew they had the same goal all along after deciding to willingly leave himself stranded to insure Sargeras never left confinement to threaten Azeroth again. Man's kinda committed himself too much to still be considered a villian now.
@@cazabrow1967 he never was a villain tho, he's just thinking in absolutes and you can't really blame him considering his eyes see the entirety of legion's power across all the universes, i would be in constant hurry and seek for power too if i was to constantly see countless worlds my enemy conquers every moment. their reactions are just another hint from blizzard to show how misunderstood illidan is even by his own family, dude's fighting evil that witnessed the dawn of creation while others think of legion as "damn another threat to azeroth fucking demons gotta kill them now somehow"
I have been backing Illidan since Warcraft 3 and was annoyed when they made him loses to Arthas and a villain in TBC. His feeling towards Mal & Tyr were always sincere, he helped ended the first war against the Legion, then they locked him up for thousand years because he created the second WoE, which btw is the source of arcane magic for the whole of Azeroth and the elves' immortality. After that the legion came again, they let him out, he fought for them and win that battle, becoming more demonic in the process, so they both cursed at him and chase him away. Comes TFT where Illidan decides to fight Arthas and the Scourge, which was the main threat to Azeroth atm, Night Elf Fam hunted Illidan down and hindered him again causing him to change his tactic to build power in Outland by any means to PREPARE for the Legion, also caused the birth of the Lich King because of that. In legion expansion, he came back from death, save the world from destruction and still have the time and mind to give them his message, that is how they reacted? Poor Illidan, forever a virgin with the thought of his twin brother banging the woman he loves. Personally hope that he kicks Sargeras's ass and get to bang a female titan like he fukin deserves
he's not kicking Sargeras' ass: he's kissing his ass and sucking his dick because "lordship over this world was never my desire: only the power, only the magic" (actual words which you and Activision ignored because "uwu emo edgelord morally gray douchebag > good-aligned hero")
@@OneTrueVikingbardI feel like they should have leaned more into anti-hero. He's saving Azeroth, but he's not so cut and dry doing good. He is willing to murder people to get to the result he needs or wants, or he's willing to do the bad things to get to those results. Which I guess is what he does, but they just didn't do a great job in terms of hero/anti-hero. I did like how they made Illidan preparing for the Legion and making the demon hunters make sense as best they could. I think Illidan will return after The War Within, as he will have some insight into the Void and help us fight them.
@@federerlkonig330 You are just hating Illidan without knowing the fact. He is more useful compared to Tyrande and Malfurion. Malfurion is a hypocrite.
He was the only one out of the elves who ever expressed any sympathy for her pain and loneliness and in the end she spent her life opposing the only Elf who was more dedicated to protecting his world and his people than she was.
It's sad how Malfurion and Tyrande didn't really care that much...damnit! Illidan sacrificed EVERYTHING and what did they do? NOTHING! Maaaan i hate them so much!
Malfurion and Tyrande: Save the world during the war of the ancients, sacrifice their immortalkty to exorcise Archimonde and defend Hyjal during Cataclyam. Fandom: "they did nothing they are useless and selfish"
@@joco8290 i know i need one, not my fault if many Illidan fan do not consider the truth. And you are commenting a 1 year old section, too, without even adding something to the cnversation.
@@federerlkonig330 "i know i need one" we are World of Warcraft players so I think us both don't have a live. "not my fault if many Illidan fan do not consider the truth" they have the right to have an opinion they want to have. If you disagree with it and go full on comment spree to try to prove them wrong shows that you are not toleratable person. "And you are commenting a 1 year old section, too, without even adding something to the cnversation." but I am not trying to change everyones opinion. If I knew anything about the lore I would have debated you. But what I said still stands. If somone belives he is 100% in the right he is keep going to believe that no matter with how many comments you come up with.
Remember that it was Malfurion and Tyranda who blew up the wells of eternity destroying the world and killing millions for the greater good. And they say it is Illidan who sacrifices everything for the greater good. He wanted to recreate it to keep the fighting power. They imprisoned him and used the power of his well
why is creating a second well of eternity even a bad thing? Arcane magic lead the legion to azeroth in the first place, but after that they already knew where azeroth was. Its not like using more arcane magic would tell them where it was even more. After the War of the Ancients, theres no longer any downside to arcane magic.
I mean what were they supposed to do? Let Sargeras enter through the well and destroy the world? The sundering destroyed the continent but it didn’t destroy the world.
@@Sotalol014 well what was illidan supposed to do? let the lich king run rampant over the world and devour all life? the eye of sargeras was going to destroy the continent of northrend but it wouldnt destroy the world
@@federerlkonig330 How would it have caused something like the cataclysm? he was targetting northrend. Deathwing was targetting the planet. in what way are the two events similar?
uuhm that's it?? your childhood friend and brother is now technically dead because you can't see him anymore and your response were "okay, then. Back to work"??
Huh, u know the irony of it all? Now tyrande has learned the value of turning to less savory means of dealing with her enemys in order to save whats left of her people, and malfurion is slowly losing his mind to the nightmare (although its gone now who knows what kind of damage It caused), now of all times they are starting to get a deeper understanding of illidans sacrifices xD
That's unironically the reason I stopped playing my Night Elf Druid. The disguise I feel towards Malfurion and Tyrande after Legion ended is just immeasurable. And now in Shadowlands Tyrande continues to reach new levels of stupidity.
@@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer Not sure about Malfurion, but for Tyrande it seems normal. Like first she wanted Illidan to leave Night Elves. Turned out he was good guy all that time. Ok, she accepts illidari as allies, myabe she has learned her lesson? Uh, no. Right at the end of Legion she declines Thalyssra for even more stupid reasons... WTF? And then you can see Nightbornes doing all that stuff with teleports and other things and they look really useful for Horde during BFA. Tyrande literally threw out a weapon that Horde picked up and used against the Alliance. And in Shadowlands all Tyrande is doing is seeking REEEEEEEvenge while not caring about anything else. I mean she is MUCH more evil than Sylvanas as a character IMHO. Even without Jailer Sylvanas has an excuse to be evil at least because she died twice and was turned to a banshee. Also Quel'Thalas destruction was much more horribe than the destruction of Teldrassil (no safety portals to Stormwind or other races' help for Sylvanas' people). Tyrande, on the other hand, only had to witness how Teldrassil burns and it's enough for her to lose her mind entirely even though many night elves survived (unlike High Elves). And yes, she wasnt mind controlled by Arthas/Jailer or anyone else (unlike Sylvanas). I don't know, i hate this character. Tyrande is mega stupid in my opinion.
Shoudl've call him Illidan The betrayed, betrayed by his own people and love ones, who choose traditions and rules over him, him who gave EVERYTHING to fight for the world.
Yes but Malfurion showed us at Battle of Darkshore that he can be batman. And i like Genn too. Tyrande is now quite crazy , Anduin i can.t stand him cause he is forced to be like his father and meh and the dwarves are not even serious, maybe Moira but too little.
I think we will see him again, Sargs sword remains, I think Illidan will become Lord of the Burning Legion. (1 of 6 forces needing to be kept in balance) he will weaponize the Legion for fighting against death taking over) in the end. He is the chosen one!
Well they've kinda wasted the oportunity with this dialog...Tyrande at least should have talk to Illi since theiy were both at Nighthold. A more dramatic dialogue to keep the fans satisfied.
Again with the hatred for Malfurion and Tyrande. Look I know a lot of you are fans of Illidan. I am too. But one thing you can’t say was that he was misunderstood. He committed sins unlike any other and would’ve doomed the world at least three times if he succeeded, especially now that we know that Ice Crown was a gateway to the Shadowlands. Malfurion and Tyrande had to deal with Illidan far longer than any of us had to. So stop with the hatred
People seems to miss that Illidan had made a lot of mistake an damage in the pass that it was not easy for these two to forgive him and seems to forget that he's a power hungry lunatic back in the old days. Second well of eternity? Slaughtering night elves settlement in frozen throne? Almost destroying northrend in the name of kil'jaiden? All of the atrocities the illidari had made in his name? Illidan had commited a lot of sins in order to gain power. Malfurion's reaction to him is very very normal.
Pathetic. All these "atrocities" are nothing compared to what the Legion would have done. If Illidan wouldn't have made all these sacrifices the Legion would still reign and do worse. Illidan saved Azeroth at the cost of his life and the "normal reaction" of his brother would be "he did unforgivable things. Back to work." for you ?
@@xernymon atrocities is still atrocities no matter what. And alot of his atrocities are NOT necessary at all. Remember that he razed and genocide villages of the night elf at the start of the frozen throne. Then trying to destroy northrend itself (which would've impact all of azeroth) because he's too scared of kil'jaiden? Second well of eternity? And then with all the talk about sacrifice and shit he reject the gift from xera. A gift that could've proof beneficial to fight against the legion? And his "sacrifice" at argus isnt a "sacrificr" at all. He didnt need to stay.
@@angelofslaughter2431 he rejected the "gift" from xera because is useless to make a deal with an absolute entity, also a lot of the atrocities that illidan did, it was because of the betrayal of his people and how malfurion treat him. illidan was a lot more practical and effective than malfurion.
@@porlax he betray his people. Not the other way around. He create another well of eternity just cuz he's so addicted with the power and magic. He literaly raze villages along the way at the start of frozen throne. "practicality and efficiency" does not excuse innocents that were lost in his lust for power. The power and deal that xera offers are clearly more of a good choice and way better than the way he attains and use all those demonic powers.
@@angelofslaughter2431 why does everybody call him power hungry as if it's a bad thing? Motherfucker lived for defeating the Burning Legion, of fucking course he needed power for that. Yeah, he created another Well of Eternity, so night elves remained immortal for another ten thousand years and kept enough power to stop Archimonde in Reign of Chaos. Remember nighfallen from Suramar/Aszuna? That's who would be left of kal'dorei by the time Archimonde invaded Azeroth. No one would be there to hold back Grom's dumbfucks and no one would do a doot in that horn to stop Archimonde. But yeah, what a selfish asshole Illidan is for creating a new well. Razed villages? Illidan commanded to destroy the ships. Nagas took the order a bit too literally and killed villagers as well. And lightforged Illidan wouldn't be stronger than demon hunter Illidan. He would be just as strong, if not weaker (If he was strong enough to kick Xe'Ra's ass, I can't imagine how could she make him stronger) and also absolutely brainwashed by lawfully evil entity.
@@federerlkonig330 imagine using people's disability as an insult and then acting like you're innocent, there's a reason why you're a Malfurion fangirl. XD
@@notverybright9825 because "blindness" Is used Also in the metaphorical way, maybe? And, if It Is used metaphorically, It Is somewhat right to use It as an insult, as It denotes the same willing lack of foresight that Illidan has?
Doesn't it feel like game companies trip over their own feet after doing something good sometimes? Like WoD was shit, but then we got Legion and it seemed like a step in the right direction and then Blizzard went back two steps and fell down with BFA. Or like when Dice released Battlefield 1 and it was amazing until they took a step backwards with Battlefield V. Like you doing so well, what happened? lol
I liked malfurion and tyrande in Warcraft but from legion and onwards I don't like them, illidan changed no longer staying as ignorant night elf, sacrificed his life, freedom to save other, to save not only Azeroth but other worlds aswel from legion and Sargeras and yet those 2 act like that, like for real I wish that sylvanas would Kick Tyrande's ass and Malfurion will get what he deserves aswel
After all those sacrifices even in the end he cared about the world.i wish they could at least thanks him but this showed us those two are nothing but TRASH 😔
I have no love for Tyrande after teldrassil. She turned into everything she criticized Illidan for being with none of the merit. She's just a shallow hypocrite at this point in the story. Except she doesn't do something like try to create a second well of eternity or do anything for the greater good of the nightelf society or azeroth until Ysera and Shandris pull her head out of her ass.
This is bullshit, I would have preferred character progression than iam_awesomism. Its like I knew everything from beginning. So he went to outland for hiding from legion and tried to destroy frozen throne for legion. What's so hard to admit mistakes and move on. may be seek forgiveness.
You have spent 16 fucking years involved in almost every major conflict in recent history. How would it make sense to not be a well recognised champion?
@@endlessnoodle3056 exactly, I love it. WoW has become more focused on story with each new expansion. Having us interact and fight alongside iconic characters is just amazing. For me it's more immersive and makes you feel powerful. Some might argue that it's not as much an MMORPG nowadays, but it still has all the same things. Sometimes it can be a little overkill because they act like some of these iconic characters are so beneath you in terms of power.
LOL. People listening to Illidan and instantly buying his lies (well..he believes them too). He is crazy, guys! He justifies all the horrible things he did with "the means justifies the actions". But the charme of Illidan is in fact that he is a bad guy.. Duh! He's an anti-hero, so don't try to portray him has a hero.
Whatever he did without him the Legion would still exist and would have done things a lot worse. He may have done lot of crimes he IS and will be a hero forever.
He never was crazy , he decided to meet his enemy by going to zin ashari . His plan was all along to get the demon soul and use it to close the portal and that's why he pretended to be one of them so he can get near it . He also wanted to create second well cuz they were powerless against a second invasion without it and he was right cuz they failed and needed his help in the end .
He was always steps ahead of the people on Azeroth. They did not see what he did, thus no one understood his actions or could justify them. He saved the universe. He is a hero many times over 😇 without him, Azeroth/universe lost.
![Tyrande's Death & Hunt for Illidan (2020) - All Cutscenes [Warcraft 3: Reforged]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bHBZdBHjPoc/mqdefault.jpg)
Illidan was smart ....he bid us farewell before reforged hit
You'd think after Illidan literally stayed behind to kept Sargeras imprisoned that'd be proof enough that everything he did was to save Azeroth
Tyrande: "Hmm I just don't know...."
seriously?
These night elf are all nothing but a bunch of arrogant fools who cares only themselves.
Cazabrow hell you would think sacrificing your own soul to save others would be proof enough. But nope , you get banished
The real reason Malfurion turned against him was jealously that he would lose Tyrande and his position to his brother because he was a more dedicated, worthy person in almost every way. They had to retcon Illidain in the books and the expansion in Wow to make Malfurion not look outright evil for what he did to Illidain, but I consider that all fluff not cannon since Blizzard has ignored its book lore in the past and the expansion is inconsistent with all the other depictions of Illidain.
In the original story of WC3 Malfurion is a vain and capricious ruler who never cares about anyone unless its a chance to make himself the center of attention or its about Tyrande, and even then he's still fine jerking off for 1000 years dreaming while all of the women of their species are forced to stay awake and guard the sleeping men in a giant dream world where they can have sex with images of elven women a perk which Malfurion fully takes advantage of with Tyrandes image as stated by him upon awakening.
Meanwhile Illidain is willingly staying imprisoned while he has the power to break out at any time so that he can serve his people again when the Demons return, which he does despite his hatred towards Malfurions unjust betrayal and then when Malfurion condems him once again out of jealousy and spite he still obeys his brother and accepts his judgment even though he could have reduced Malfurion in to a smoldering pile of ashes in front of Tyrande, which he would have completely deserved.
max cogswell wow...granddaddy Druid. You disappoint me .
Illidan is not needed. He is doing what he wants. T'he pantheon is enough to keep Sargeras imprisoned, Illidan is only satysfing his Revenge fantasies .
This demonstrates clearly that Illidan has grown far more as an individual than Tyrande and Malfurion, who both can't seem to put the past behind them. Illidan has not only forgiven them both, but also understands that there are more important things in life than grudges- And this is coming from the guy wielding dark powers but for his own beliefs, who refuses to buckle to anything less than what he deems worthy of his own merit. (Look at that smile in the thumbnail. This guy is truely content.)
Tyrande and Malfurion don't deserve Illidan, Tyrande especially. She seems pretty psychotic thesedays anyway, and I can't help but feel Illidan dodged a bullet!
Yes before the lore i like Malfurion, but now, Illidan beats him in a landslide personality wise
Illidain has always been the bigger man. He willingly stayed imprisoned for 10000 years when he had the power to escape just so he could be available when the Burning Legion returned, meanwhile Malfurion and all the other elf men were in the Green Dream living out a fantasy where they could conjure the images of elf women and have sex with them, all while the actual elf women had to guard, shelter, and go without any male sex or attention for 1000 years. The demographic damage alone from that 1 decision marks Malfurion as an incompetent ruler. When you throw in how he imprisoned, betrayed and humiliated Illidain multiple times out of jealousy over Tyrande even though he already had her.
Malfurion is like the cliche villain from an opera ruining the heroes life and bringing them to tragedy purely out of jealousy. The fact that Illidain isn't remembered as the true hero of Azeroth and Malfurion is one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in the whole series.
Illidain was also a more talented ruler and conquered an entire planet and actually could have destroyed nerzhul once and for all if Malfurion had not interfered because of his emotions over Tyrande.
Malfurion is the most worthless and incompetent ruler in the entire series and after she slaughtered the wardens Tyrande is a legit traitor and evil person who never gets held accountable. They deserve each other but poor Illidain deserved better than either of them.
Such a superficial vision. Think about this: characters don't know everything like us. Also, Illidan has always been a disgustive liar until the end, Who never told anyone his secrets. Malfurion's reaction is Just perfect: he knows that his Brother did certain things, but he already forgave him in the past and he remembers the Good old days. Tyrande does not know how see the message, because Illidan is a jerkish liar. Therefore, their reactions are appropriate. Illidan never had the Power to escape his his prison, he managed to do It only After Tyrande weakened the magical barriers wich hold him back. And Remember: Illidan is not Dead. This is not a Sacrifice. Why they should cry for somebody Who is still alive? They do not Need to be forgiven, because they did nothing wrong. Illidan was imprisoned because he condemned the world. And the eye of Sargeras... Even the retcon could not repair this.
So how many of you can leave the past behind? Hated on someone too long? Perfect reflection of the real world I think.
@@maxcogswell4201 yea what was the point of permanently staying in that green dream lool
3:17
*Malferion talks*
Lil' fawn: LOOKIE ME DANCE!
didn't notice that, but it brought me cheer
Malfurion was always Jaelous because Illidan has bigger balls and pretty face.
And because illidan is more badass
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Illidan: bring honor to the name stormrage
Malfurion: dies completely un honorably
Malfurion and Tyrande truly showed themselves to be trash here.
What About all of the innocents in Warcraft 3 Where all of the innocents were slaughtered?
@@petersander5802 You mean the innocents that the game goes out of its way to tell you aren't actually innocent in any shape, way, form, or fashion?
@@tek512 try to play it again then
Nah just Tyrande Malfurion atleast seemed he was willing to forgive his brother
@@petersander5802 There were no innocents in Illidan´s path. The wardens were the closer to being innocent, but then again, they were trying to stop/imprison Illidan, and the guy spent 10 thousand years in a dark cage without being capable of killing himself, and to top it, he was imprisioned even if he was the actual reason the Legion didnt out right conquer Azeroth, killing them was pretty mild for a Stormrage tbh.
Very disappointing. Malfurion, Tyrande and Illidan were close once. I would expected a greater reconciliation
Nniiiahhhh... Niiiiaaaaaaaa
So how exactly?
@@xanderguldie They both could have admitted that even though he was eccentric and took drastic measures, he did what he did in order to save his world rather than rule it.
At the very least they could've said that they knew they had the same goal all along after deciding to willingly leave himself stranded to insure Sargeras never left confinement to threaten Azeroth again. Man's kinda committed himself too much to still be considered a villian now.
@@cazabrow1967 he never was a villain tho, he's just thinking in absolutes and you can't really blame him considering his eyes see the entirety of legion's power across all the universes, i would be in constant hurry and seek for power too if i was to constantly see countless worlds my enemy conquers every moment. their reactions are just another hint from blizzard to show how misunderstood illidan is even by his own family, dude's fighting evil that witnessed the dawn of creation while others think of legion as "damn another threat to azeroth fucking demons gotta kill them now somehow"
Their reaction on illidan's Messenge Is very out of character.
Amazing ending... it was incredible to see them in the well of eternity, and Illidan quotes... couldn't be better. Thanks for uploading this.
they used to do threesome inside the tree of eternity
LOL great catch
3:16 lil guy wanted to show off a little dance and then skidaddle
I have been backing Illidan since Warcraft 3 and was annoyed when they made him loses to Arthas and a villain in TBC. His feeling towards Mal & Tyr were always sincere, he helped ended the first war against the Legion, then they locked him up for thousand years because he created the second WoE, which btw is the source of arcane magic for the whole of Azeroth and the elves' immortality. After that the legion came again, they let him out, he fought for them and win that battle, becoming more demonic in the process, so they both cursed at him and chase him away. Comes TFT where Illidan decides to fight Arthas and the Scourge, which was the main threat to Azeroth atm, Night Elf Fam hunted Illidan down and hindered him again causing him to change his tactic to build power in Outland by any means to PREPARE for the Legion, also caused the birth of the Lich King because of that. In legion expansion, he came back from death, save the world from destruction and still have the time and mind to give them his message, that is how they reacted? Poor Illidan, forever a virgin with the thought of his twin brother banging the woman he loves. Personally hope that he kicks Sargeras's ass and get to bang a female titan like he fukin deserves
Their reaction on illidan's Messenge Is very out of character.
@@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer Illidan's portrayal in Legion as a hero is way out of character
he's not kicking Sargeras' ass: he's kissing his ass and sucking his dick because "lordship over this world was never my desire: only the power, only the magic" (actual words which you and Activision ignored because "uwu emo edgelord morally gray douchebag > good-aligned hero")
@@OneTrueVikingbardI feel like they should have leaned more into anti-hero. He's saving Azeroth, but he's not so cut and dry doing good. He is willing to murder people to get to the result he needs or wants, or he's willing to do the bad things to get to those results. Which I guess is what he does, but they just didn't do a great job in terms of hero/anti-hero. I did like how they made Illidan preparing for the Legion and making the demon hunters make sense as best they could. I think Illidan will return after The War Within, as he will have some insight into the Void and help us fight them.
Illidan is gone. I missed him :'( Thanks for this video. Illidan is best my character in WoW universe
he is may fav too
And also my fave too
We need him back !!
@@theblindelf7991 More than ever!
My fav too
Illidan did more to help his people more than Malfurion/Tyrande ever did and that's a damn fact.
No.
@@federerlkonig330 yes
He saved the universe.
@@federerlkonig330 nO
@@federerlkonig330 You are just hating Illidan without knowing the fact. He is more useful compared to Tyrande and Malfurion. Malfurion is a hypocrite.
Should have recorded a message for maev too
He was the only one out of the elves who ever expressed any sympathy for her pain and loneliness and in the end she spent her life opposing the only Elf who was more dedicated to protecting his world and his people than she was.
"peace out, nerd"
Dear Maev you a skank.
"Dearest Maev you fucking skank.
Fuck you.
Peace out,
Illidan"
@@tennoshenaniganizer9234 Perfect!
It's sad how Malfurion and Tyrande didn't really care that much...damnit! Illidan sacrificed EVERYTHING and what did they do? NOTHING! Maaaan i hate them so much!
Do you.. Feel the hatred of 10,000 years?
Malfurion and Tyrande: Save the world during the war of the ancients, sacrifice their immortalkty to exorcise Archimonde and defend Hyjal during Cataclyam. Fandom: "they did nothing they are useless and selfish"
@@federerlkonig330 Jesus you need to get a life mate. You've been in this comment section for 1 year saying one and the same shit over and over again.
@@joco8290 i know i need one, not my fault if many Illidan fan do not consider the truth. And you are commenting a 1 year old section, too, without even adding something to the cnversation.
@@federerlkonig330 "i know i need one" we are World of Warcraft players so I think us both don't have a live.
"not my fault if many Illidan fan do not consider the truth" they have the right to have an opinion they want to have. If you disagree with it and go full on comment spree to try to prove them wrong shows that you are not toleratable person.
"And you are commenting a 1 year old section, too, without even adding something to the cnversation." but I am not trying to change everyones opinion.
If I knew anything about the lore I would have debated you. But what I said still stands. If somone belives he is 100% in the right he is keep going to believe that no matter with how many comments you come up with.
He got out before it all went to shit, Illidan Stormrage RESPECT.
Remember that it was Malfurion and Tyranda who blew up the wells of eternity destroying the world and killing millions for the greater good. And they say it is Illidan who sacrifices everything for the greater good.
He wanted to recreate it to keep the fighting power.
They imprisoned him and used the power of his well
why is creating a second well of eternity even a bad thing? Arcane magic lead the legion to azeroth in the first place, but after that they already knew where azeroth was. Its not like using more arcane magic would tell them where it was even more. After the War of the Ancients, theres no longer any downside to arcane magic.
I mean what were they supposed to do? Let Sargeras enter through the well and destroy the world? The sundering destroyed the continent but it didn’t destroy the world.
@@Sotalol014 well what was illidan supposed to do? let the lich king run rampant over the world and devour all life? the eye of sargeras was going to destroy the continent of northrend but it wouldnt destroy the world
@@lenkagamine4145 actually, It would have caused something like Cataclysm, plus let's add the Naga threat.
@@federerlkonig330 How would it have caused something like the cataclysm? he was targetting northrend. Deathwing was targetting the planet. in what way are the two events similar?
uuhm that's it?? your childhood friend and brother is now technically dead because you can't see him anymore and your response were "okay, then. Back to work"??
He. Is. Not. Dead. He is doing what he wants to do.
Racist night elf stuff
theres no way of knowing if he is dead or not, the door was left open for a possible return someday
@@shawnoreilly4917 he didn't say he was dead, he said "TECHNICALLY DEAD, SINCE YOU CAN'T SEE HIM ANYMORE"
zug zug
we never forget you illidan Hope we see you again one day
Huh, u know the irony of it all? Now tyrande has learned the value of turning to less savory means of dealing with her enemys in order to save whats left of her people, and malfurion is slowly losing his mind to the nightmare (although its gone now who knows what kind of damage It caused), now of all times they are starting to get a deeper understanding of illidans sacrifices xD
Tyrande and malfurion now feel the same way agenced sylvannas that illidan feels agenced sargearas
tyrande didn't take on the ngith warrior to save her people, she did it in vengence. THAT was selfish
i want to see illidan became the champion of aman thul like tyrande being the champion of elune...
Personally I believe Illidan would’ve but Sylvanas in her place
“And the shadows grow darker”
Did IIIdian legit predict shadowlands?
could be, blizzard always said that the plan around 5 expansions over the one currently at play.
tyrande you fckinh unemotional ice cube!!!
That's unironically the reason I stopped playing my Night Elf Druid. The disguise I feel towards Malfurion and Tyrande after Legion ended is just immeasurable.
And now in Shadowlands Tyrande continues to reach new levels of stupidity.
Seems to me like blizz wants to aim Tyrande for the next bad guy
Their reaction on illidan's Messenge Is very out of character.
@@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer Not sure about Malfurion, but for Tyrande it seems normal. Like first she wanted Illidan to leave Night Elves. Turned out he was good guy all that time. Ok, she accepts illidari as allies, myabe she has learned her lesson? Uh, no. Right at the end of Legion she declines Thalyssra for even more stupid reasons... WTF? And then you can see Nightbornes doing all that stuff with teleports and other things and they look really useful for Horde during BFA. Tyrande literally threw out a weapon that Horde picked up and used against the Alliance.
And in Shadowlands all Tyrande is doing is seeking REEEEEEEvenge while not caring about anything else.
I mean she is MUCH more evil than Sylvanas as a character IMHO. Even without Jailer Sylvanas has an excuse to be evil at least because she died twice and was turned to a banshee. Also Quel'Thalas destruction was much more horribe than the destruction of Teldrassil (no safety portals to Stormwind or other races' help for Sylvanas' people).
Tyrande, on the other hand, only had to witness how Teldrassil burns and it's enough for her to lose her mind entirely even though many night elves survived (unlike High Elves). And yes, she wasnt mind controlled by Arthas/Jailer or anyone else (unlike Sylvanas).
I don't know, i hate this character. Tyrande is mega stupid in my opinion.
Shoudl've call him Illidan The betrayed, betrayed by his own people and love ones, who choose traditions and rules over him, him who gave EVERYTHING to fight for the world.
We are not ready
And he didnt give us anything to say to Miev because he delivered that one in person ;) 8^)
The hero gave different memory stones to the wrong person... well that’s awkward
And this is why I fight for the Horde.
Where are all these 2020 comments coming from? This was made 2017
It's nice looking back at good stuff. Nostalgia trip dude
Cause of tyrande.I wish to see Illidan in Shadowlands
i miss illidan sm... the story in legion and with illidan in general was so good, SL and BFA sucks
This guy sounds like War from darksiders.
Because it is. Same voice actor
Liam o 'brien , yasuo voice aswell xD
Malfurion, Tyrande, Jaina... Almost all of the alliance leaders are cringy jerks that completely suck.
Yes but Malfurion showed us at Battle of Darkshore that he can be batman. And i like Genn too. Tyrande is now quite crazy , Anduin i can.t stand him cause he is forced to be like his father and meh and the dwarves are not even serious, maybe Moira but too little.
Hey leave Jaina out
Maybe I was too hard on Tyrande.
you insult Jaina. she had her reasons . these two are jerks
If illidan returns I hope he slaps malfurions cheeks
I actually hope (but never will happen) that he comes back and kills Sylvannas in the Shadowlands.
Why this won't ever happen?
*That's Arthas's JOB!*
@@bajkotamas1610 there's a high chance we will meet him again in the maw
And clap Maiev's
I think we will see him again, Sargs sword remains, I think Illidan will become Lord of the Burning Legion. (1 of 6 forces needing to be kept in balance) he will weaponize the Legion for fighting against death taking over) in the end. He is the chosen one!
he will back to fuck sylvanas after 2 or 3 extentions
Blizzards writers really didn’t understand a thing
Well they've kinda wasted the oportunity with this dialog...Tyrande at least should have talk to Illi since theiy were both at Nighthold. A more dramatic dialogue to keep the fans satisfied.
Again with the hatred for Malfurion and Tyrande. Look I know a lot of you are fans of Illidan. I am too. But one thing you can’t say was that he was misunderstood. He committed sins unlike any other and would’ve doomed the world at least three times if he succeeded, especially now that we know that Ice Crown was a gateway to the Shadowlands. Malfurion and Tyrande had to deal with Illidan far longer than any of us had to. So stop with the hatred
Good luck
People seems to miss that Illidan had made a lot of mistake an damage in the pass that it was not easy for these two to forgive him and seems to forget that he's a power hungry lunatic back in the old days. Second well of eternity? Slaughtering night elves settlement in frozen throne? Almost destroying northrend in the name of kil'jaiden? All of the atrocities the illidari had made in his name? Illidan had commited a lot of sins in order to gain power. Malfurion's reaction to him is very very normal.
Pathetic. All these "atrocities" are nothing compared to what the Legion would have done. If Illidan wouldn't have made all these sacrifices the Legion would still reign and do worse. Illidan saved Azeroth at the cost of his life and the "normal reaction" of his brother would be "he did unforgivable things. Back to work." for you ?
@@xernymon atrocities is still atrocities no matter what. And alot of his atrocities are NOT necessary at all. Remember that he razed and genocide villages of the night elf at the start of the frozen throne. Then trying to destroy northrend itself (which would've impact all of azeroth) because he's too scared of kil'jaiden? Second well of eternity? And then with all the talk about sacrifice and shit he reject the gift from xera. A gift that could've proof beneficial to fight against the legion? And his "sacrifice" at argus isnt a "sacrificr" at all. He didnt need to stay.
@@angelofslaughter2431 he rejected the "gift" from xera because is useless to make a deal with an absolute entity, also a lot of
the atrocities that illidan did, it was because of the betrayal of his people and how malfurion treat him. illidan was a lot more practical and effective than malfurion.
@@porlax he betray his people. Not the other way around. He create another well of eternity just cuz he's so addicted with the power and magic. He literaly raze villages along the way at the start of frozen throne. "practicality and efficiency" does not excuse innocents that were lost in his lust for power. The power and deal that xera offers are clearly more of a good choice and way better than the way he attains and use all those demonic powers.
@@angelofslaughter2431 why does everybody call him power hungry as if it's a bad thing? Motherfucker lived for defeating the Burning Legion, of fucking course he needed power for that.
Yeah, he created another Well of Eternity, so night elves remained immortal for another ten thousand years and kept enough power to stop Archimonde in Reign of Chaos. Remember nighfallen from Suramar/Aszuna? That's who would be left of kal'dorei by the time Archimonde invaded Azeroth. No one would be there to hold back Grom's dumbfucks and no one would do a doot in that horn to stop Archimonde. But yeah, what a selfish asshole Illidan is for creating a new well.
Razed villages? Illidan commanded to destroy the ships. Nagas took the order a bit too literally and killed villagers as well.
And lightforged Illidan wouldn't be stronger than demon hunter Illidan. He would be just as strong, if not weaker (If he was strong enough to kick Xe'Ra's ass, I can't imagine how could she make him stronger) and also absolutely brainwashed by lawfully evil entity.
People decrying Malfurion and Tyrande here. Did you forget all of the slavery and brutality guys??
Illidan's fandom is stupid and blind as Illidan.
@@federerlkonig330 wow man chill
@@muhammadgibran9852 maybe i was a bit too harsh.
@@federerlkonig330 imagine using people's disability as an insult and then acting like you're innocent, there's a reason why you're a Malfurion fangirl. XD
@@notverybright9825 because "blindness" Is used Also in the metaphorical way, maybe? And, if It Is used metaphorically, It Is somewhat right to use It as an insult, as It denotes the same willing lack of foresight that Illidan has?
already over 2, years...damn legion was really fun, and BfA is just the worst ever
Doesn't it feel like game companies trip over their own feet after doing something good sometimes? Like WoD was shit, but then we got Legion and it seemed like a step in the right direction and then Blizzard went back two steps and fell down with BFA. Or like when Dice released Battlefield 1 and it was amazing until they took a step backwards with Battlefield V. Like you doing so well, what happened? lol
He is not dead , and i feel like he will come back in 3-5 expansions , if the game will last that long . Also FUCK MALFURION AND TYRANDE
Turn the music down!
I liked malfurion and tyrande in Warcraft but from legion and onwards I don't like them, illidan changed no longer staying as ignorant night elf, sacrificed his life, freedom to save other, to save not only Azeroth but other worlds aswel from legion and Sargeras and yet those 2 act like that, like for real I wish that sylvanas would Kick Tyrande's ass and Malfurion will get what he deserves aswel
Their reaction on illidan's Messenge Is very out of character.
@@DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer yup
KAIN!!!!!!!!!!
Caius ? ff13-2 ? no wonder they're both badasses
Good....
cool! like it
After all those sacrifices even in the end he cared about the world.i wish they could at least thanks him but this showed us those two are nothing but TRASH 😔
Their reaction on illidan's Messenge Is very out of character.
Dont bite my head off. But wasnt he the king of stormwind?
that's Varian Wrynn
I have no love for Tyrande after teldrassil. She turned into everything she criticized Illidan for being with none of the merit. She's just a shallow hypocrite at this point in the story. Except she doesn't do something like try to create a second well of eternity or do anything for the greater good of the nightelf society or azeroth until Ysera and Shandris pull her head out of her ass.
Tyrande has changed over the years. After she awakens malfurion, he clearly state that, yes she is a bit*h nonetheless.
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a, Legion, the time when wow was still good
Bro you need to upgrade your GPU
:(
Wow, I knew night elves were pricks, but this is just on another level.
done :)
This is bullshit, I would have preferred character progression than iam_awesomism. Its like I knew everything from beginning. So he went to outland for hiding from legion and tried to destroy frozen throne for legion. What's so hard to admit mistakes and move on. may be seek forgiveness.
gobal worming (global warming)
Malfurion was always a POS and my biggest dislike of war3 was that Tyrande liked that lazy trashcan of a personality over Illidan
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I don't know what Illidan saw in Tyrande, she is the worst character in WoW
you mean the best?
All I want now is the option to hunt down/kill malf and tyra for Illidan.
I hate this angle that you are a champion in WOW, tries to make you feel you are the most important person in the game. That just doesnt work for me.
Same feeling friend
You have spent 16 fucking years involved in almost every major conflict in recent history. How would it make sense to not be a well recognised champion?
@@endlessnoodle3056 exactly, I love it. WoW has become more focused on story with each new expansion. Having us interact and fight alongside iconic characters is just amazing. For me it's more immersive and makes you feel powerful. Some might argue that it's not as much an MMORPG nowadays, but it still has all the same things. Sometimes it can be a little overkill because they act like some of these iconic characters are so beneath you in terms of power.
LOL. People listening to Illidan and instantly buying his lies (well..he believes them too). He is crazy, guys! He justifies all the horrible things he did with "the means justifies the actions". But the charme of Illidan is in fact that he is a bad guy.. Duh! He's an anti-hero, so don't try to portray him has a hero.
Whatever he did without him the Legion would still exist and would have done things a lot worse. He may have done lot of crimes he IS and will be a hero forever.
he knew the legions armies were vast and numerous. he was the only one who was actually able to sacrifice everything in order to win.
He never was crazy , he decided to meet his enemy by going to zin ashari . His plan was all along to get the demon soul and use it to close the portal and that's why he pretended to be one of them so he can get near it . He also wanted to create second well cuz they were powerless against a second invasion without it and he was right cuz they failed and needed his help in the end .
He was always steps ahead of the people on Azeroth. They did not see what he did, thus no one understood his actions or could justify them. He saved the universe. He is a hero many times over 😇 without him, Azeroth/universe lost.
The people of Azeroth didn't see what he did. He was already one step ahead of them. Illidan wasn't evil, he is just misunderstood.
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