Dear lord this deck is the definition of overwhelming. There's too many resources for mid-range and aggro decks to fight through. It's like facing against a final boss
Yeah I just now farmed Bo1, it's 70-80% aggro, mid is good as you mention, and after 7 straight Ws I finally lost to a grixis control deck. There's so much card draw too, it's beautiful to clown on the black discard deck
It's funny one of the domain deck's worst matchups is against the 36 wraths deck. Their removal is useless if you don't play permanents, they don't have enough threats to outlast 36 wraths, and they will eventually deck themselves by drawing too much off beanstalk and atraxa.
Up the Beanstalk is OP tho. It works on all card types (not only creature), also it counts only on the "printed" mana value, which can be abused by cards with alternative cost.
watching every copy of up the beanstalk draw 6 cards a game is just mindblowing, one of those two mana plays that requires an immediate answer or you just get absolutely drowned.
Domain feels like a final boss fight as much as it ever has. Overlords make this deck so much better. Used to be they wouldn't have anything out before Atraxa. Now, though, they WILL get a big body unless you deal with those before they hit the field. But I've actually discovered that my own Narset Token Midrange deck still works just fine against it and even got new tools in the form of Enduring Courage. This deck is very beatable. They need Beans to draw cards, and it's more important than ever to destroy those thanks to the overlords allowing them to ramp while they draw and enable domain in one turn. Despite how many good cards are in this deck, they NEED all those cards, and they can't ramp with only single green anymore, l so their mana is less consistent, and their deck is largely composed of lands to try to fix this. Without Beans, they'll run out of removal quickly, and as much as Overlords eventually create a body and do enable Domain immediately, you need every opener to start with one and double green or they can't ramp and enable Domain, and if they don't have that, it makes their removal a lot slower. If you can make them waste turn 3 holding removal instead of ramping, you but more time before the Sunfall. The fact that the overlords impend means they're slower than Atraxa, so you have time, and you must deal damage quickly with a wide board, but not one that gets routinely crushed by Temporary Lockdown. Aggro is actually not bad against Domain. Domain gets wrecked by Leyline decks, but as the aggro, you can't dump your whole hand onto the field to get board wiped. You have to bait out the board wipes with pressure, then blitz them down while they're tapped out. If you can remove enchantments and creatures with your spells, even better. You have to get damage where you can and then seal the deal once they're stuck recharging. Just like a boss fight. Play careful, but hit them when they're open. To win, you need to either have ways of dodging or countering their board wipes, or you need the redundancy to rebuild after, or you need to kill them before they Sunfall everything you have.
Up the Beanstalk is just a crazy card. If you untap with it, it isn’t hard for it to be 2mv draw 2, which is already above rate. And you often draw 5+ cards over the course of a game.
Yeah, the card is just poorly designed. It cycles upfront and all the rest is bonus; even if it were worded "whenever you spend five or more mana for casting a spell" it would still be broken. It shouldn't draw on entering.
To be honest, even when Atraxa rotates out, Domain will still exist in a different form: Bant Control with all the new overlords and Beanstalk synergy. Whether it will be meta is a different story.
Holy crap, I know we all know that 5 color decks always try to go over the top of whatever their opponents are doing, but DAMN tbis deck doesn't even have to try. It just does! Really powerful stuff here Luca, i appreciate you making this deck for us, but I sure hope I don't have to play against this xD
35:16 could you have still used the not on my watch after the 3 damage resolves/they choose to sack scamps, in full control? Would make any pump spells they have redundant.
You either put enough greed in the deck to beat domain/reanimator or you add enough cheap conditional removal to beat mono red. There really isn't much room in between. Also there is absolutely nothing preventing this deck from cutting back slightly on the removal and adding a full playset of either the white or black overlords. Good luck dealing with thier value train then.
I wouldn't really bother with the Black overlord, remember that he only gets "Non-Avatar" creatures out of the graveyard. So if your deck is loaded with Overlords he's going to miss a lot of the time. Plus the Domain deck in its default configuration is mostly white/green, there isn't a ton of black sources to pay for the BB cost.
@@jasonslade6259 Green overlord near automatically fixes those mana issues on it's own. Also they were more pulling enchantment removal out while adding more targets to rite of the moth and/or smugglers surprise. It was far more abzan in mana pie and removal suite apposed the naya displayed here and I suspect the the black overlord was slotted over a few of the beanstalks. Edit: Granted this could have been a localized phase of the ladder as I have also people running atraxa and ghalta in straight orzov reanimator..
@@ericwolf9664 I agree, you can bypass the mana issues by switching to a more black-heavy version of the deck but I've played a creature heavy Golgari deck with 8 overlords in it and the number of times that I cast Balemurk on turn 2 and got no hits was unacceptable. If you go up to 12 overlords its going to be even worse. I just don't think he belongs in that kind of deck.
It’s the versatility that makes it good. You can play it sooner when needed and can split up the damage while gaining life. Not to mention it’s easier to cast in this deck than something that’s double red.
I play Temur and my favorite win in this meta was continuously bouncing atraxa to the reanimator player's hand and watching them mill themselves out into a loss
I got downvoted for saying we should wait until after rotation to have yearly bans and use domain as an example of a deck that may still be to strong even after rotation. I got attacked and downvoted into oblivion "because rotation kills the deck"
Dear lord this deck is the definition of overwhelming. There's too many resources for mid-range and aggro decks to fight through.
It's like facing against a final boss
I was hoping this deck would lose some traction after rotation but it feels better now than ever.
Yeah I just now farmed Bo1, it's 70-80% aggro, mid is good as you mention, and after 7 straight Ws I finally lost to a grixis control deck. There's so much card draw too, it's beautiful to clown on the black discard deck
Biggest problem with this deck is it's just tedious to play against, and the mirror is even worse.
I hate when the 4th leyline binding / sunfall dropped
It's funny one of the domain deck's worst matchups is against the 36 wraths deck. Their removal is useless if you don't play permanents, they don't have enough threats to outlast 36 wraths, and they will eventually deck themselves by drawing too much off beanstalk and atraxa.
Me: "I never thought I'd fight Monored besides such a disgusting deck."
Domain: "And besides a friend?"
Me: "I could do that."
I truly don't even know who to root for between Mono R and Domain Atraxa
"Let them fight"
Seriously. Both are cancers to the format, more or less
Monored at least doesn’t waste your time like the domain deck does.
@@Muertoloco13 Cue the monoR player expending 30s deciding which mountain to play.
@@gabrieljoseozanan6989copy that reply for all future comments on mono red Vs x it's spot on lol
LVD is the master of his Domain
Up the Beanstalk is OP tho.
It works on all card types (not only creature), also it counts only on the "printed" mana value, which can be abused by cards with alternative cost.
watching every copy of up the beanstalk draw 6 cards a game is just mindblowing, one of those two mana plays that requires an immediate answer or you just get absolutely drowned.
Domain feels like a final boss fight as much as it ever has. Overlords make this deck so much better. Used to be they wouldn't have anything out before Atraxa. Now, though, they WILL get a big body unless you deal with those before they hit the field.
But I've actually discovered that my own Narset Token Midrange deck still works just fine against it and even got new tools in the form of Enduring Courage.
This deck is very beatable. They need Beans to draw cards, and it's more important than ever to destroy those thanks to the overlords allowing them to ramp while they draw and enable domain in one turn.
Despite how many good cards are in this deck, they NEED all those cards, and they can't ramp with only single green anymore, l so their mana is less consistent, and their deck is largely composed of lands to try to fix this. Without Beans, they'll run out of removal quickly, and as much as Overlords eventually create a body and do enable Domain immediately, you need every opener to start with one and double green or they can't ramp and enable Domain, and if they don't have that, it makes their removal a lot slower. If you can make them waste turn 3 holding removal instead of ramping, you but more time before the Sunfall. The fact that the overlords impend means they're slower than Atraxa, so you have time, and you must deal damage quickly with a wide board, but not one that gets routinely crushed by Temporary Lockdown.
Aggro is actually not bad against Domain. Domain gets wrecked by Leyline decks, but as the aggro, you can't dump your whole hand onto the field to get board wiped. You have to bait out the board wipes with pressure, then blitz them down while they're tapped out. If you can remove enchantments and creatures with your spells, even better. You have to get damage where you can and then seal the deal once they're stuck recharging. Just like a boss fight. Play careful, but hit them when they're open.
To win, you need to either have ways of dodging or countering their board wipes, or you need the redundancy to rebuild after, or you need to kill them before they Sunfall everything you have.
DOMAIN EXPANSION: DUSKMOURN OVERLORD
Domain Expansion: Everything, everywhere, all at once.
Up the Beanstalk is just a crazy card. If you untap with it, it isn’t hard for it to be 2mv draw 2, which is already above rate. And you often draw 5+ cards over the course of a game.
Yeah, the card is just poorly designed. It cycles upfront and all the rest is bonus; even if it were worded "whenever you spend five or more mana for casting a spell" it would still be broken. It shouldn't draw on entering.
Another video seeing Mono Red getting slapped around is always joyful to watch.
In most circumstances, I would call this petty.
Specifically the Leyline deck, though, I do not mind being petty at at all.
Red player flooded hard. Domain actually has bad matchup against red.
I miss the days lvd would stream drafts
Switched pyroclasm for black virtue and added black scry lands - rb and bg
We all thought the moment New Coppena left. The deck would die. We’re in Duskmourn. This deck is still alive. Retvrn to two years WOTC.
thank god
To be honest, even when Atraxa rotates out, Domain will still exist in a different form: Bant Control with all the new overlords and Beanstalk synergy. Whether it will be meta is a different story.
I don't know a single person who likes the extended rotation.....yet wotc seems to not listen
@@bobboberson6664 it’s a temporary solution to get rid of the overstock.
I love this deck
I never saw a domain deck so clean. Good deck as always, I will try to adapt to BO3
Holy crap, I know we all know that 5 color decks always try to go over the top of whatever their opponents are doing, but DAMN tbis deck doesn't even have to try. It just does! Really powerful stuff here Luca, i appreciate you making this deck for us, but I sure hope I don't have to play against this xD
No wildcards to build it 💔
Have a nice day
Wonder if 3x Atraxa are too many? Plenty of beef to win or stall the game until you find (say) 1 of 2.
Sunfall is such a broken card. I can't wait for it to rotate out.
It's a necessary evil with that many death triggers in the format. But Day of Judgement is coming soon, too.
What do you think about Archangel vs White overlord?
Both are decent, Archangel provides a more unique effect even if it doesn’t trigger Beanstalk.
35:16 could you have still used the not on my watch after the 3 damage resolves/they choose to sack scamps, in full control? Would make any pump spells they have redundant.
Cool, LVD standard video. I wonder what new brew he cooked up.. oh
You either put enough greed in the deck to beat domain/reanimator or you add enough cheap conditional removal to beat mono red. There really isn't much room in between. Also there is absolutely nothing preventing this deck from cutting back slightly on the removal and adding a full playset of either the white or black overlords. Good luck dealing with thier value train then.
I wouldn't really bother with the Black overlord, remember that he only gets "Non-Avatar" creatures out of the graveyard. So if your deck is loaded with Overlords he's going to miss a lot of the time. Plus the Domain deck in its default configuration is mostly white/green, there isn't a ton of black sources to pay for the BB cost.
@@jasonslade6259 Green overlord near automatically fixes those mana issues on it's own. Also they were more pulling enchantment removal out while adding more targets to rite of the moth and/or smugglers surprise. It was far more abzan in mana pie and removal suite apposed the naya displayed here and I suspect the the black overlord was slotted over a few of the beanstalks.
Edit: Granted this could have been a localized phase of the ladder as I have also people running atraxa and ghalta in straight orzov reanimator..
I have good success with azorius control against both types of decks honestly.
@@ericwolf9664 I agree, you can bypass the mana issues by switching to a more black-heavy version of the deck but I've played a creature heavy Golgari deck with 8 overlords in it and the number of times that I cast Balemurk on turn 2 and got no hits was unacceptable. If you go up to 12 overlords its going to be even worse. I just don't think he belongs in that kind of deck.
24:00 i dont get why you didnt get lost the scamp....
No white mana.
@@LegenVD ah my bad, you are right! did not notice at first.
this is the reason i only play brawls and sealed, this is not fun to play against anymore 😢
Overlords go up the beanstalk lol
Can you do a leyline of transformation deck?
“I think it was called…. The deck that just won’t die…”
Domain is Everywhere (and vice versa)
Please play some draft 🙏. I LOVE draft. More variety (from opponents I mean).
I can't get to see the value on Archangel of Wrath, that's 6 mana for 4 damage, I'd rather just play Overlord of the Boilerbilges
It’s the versatility that makes it good. You can play it sooner when needed and can split up the damage while gaining life. Not to mention it’s easier to cast in this deck than something that’s double red.
@@LegenVD I see, that's fair. Thanks for replying! I'm still new-ish so this helps a lot on how to think at building decks
I love how this deck has stuck around even after losing the triomes
Mono Red, Atraxa Domain, BG midrange. No matter who wins, we've all lost.
This deck is frustrating to face, but *very* satisfying to defeat. Oh, to kill a Domain player's Atraxa, and to reanimate it the next turn ❤
I play Temur and my favorite win in this meta was continuously bouncing atraxa to the reanimator player's hand and watching them mill themselves out into a loss
I got downvoted for saying we should wait until after rotation to have yearly bans and use domain as an example of a deck that may still be to strong even after rotation.
I got attacked and downvoted into oblivion "because rotation kills the deck"
this deck have too much value
Good lord, this deck is annoying to play against!
this is one of the decks I always forfeit to because my time is more valuable than dealing with this shit...
3rd
Second
This is what this game has become. Playing Op decks like this one or mono red. Literally no one plays bunnies/humans/dolls. No one has guts
Playing those in Best of 1 is asking to lose. Play best of 3 the variety there is much higher.