Looking back it is kinda crazy how long Gitaxian Probe was legal in modern without people realizing how broken it was. It was basically only played in Infect and sometimes in Storm. This thing flew under the radar for waaaay to long.
It was less good in slower modern back when you could play Eternal Witness for value and Tarmogoyf and Siege Rhino were premium threats and life totals mattered more while information from looking at a hand once often didn't last basically the whole game. Maybe it was still correct to play in more decks though.
@@uselesscommon7761 There are definitely value decks where you wouldn't trade 2-8 life per game for playing 56 cards and don't get much value from looking at their hand, but it's really busted in any deck that benefit from being able to check if the way is clear or they need to play around something, and modern has a lot of those.
@@qba919yeah that’s what was throwing me off. He had 7 cards in graveyard, he exiled 6 when the Titan only needs 5 exiles. So yeah l, even though it was a little awkward, the board state was kept correctly.
I believe moving the equipment shouldn't target Nadu, either, because it's an activated on the equipment and that ability is targeting a different creature, but maybe I missed something?
Carl and Team I do love the new graphics but do remember that the point of 1 video was not to overwork yourself! do be careful! Really enjoying the video!
Let's hope that the psychic health of the people involved in the video stabilised since nine days ago. Also, what a montage style change with the simple geometric shapes! I like it, it makes following the players' schemes even easier!
Carl: I need to take a break from the youtube channel, we're only doing one video a week Also Carl: Well with all this extra time, I can spend twice as long editing that one video! Never change Carl.
I also have 2 editors helping me with the editing :) this one was done by Brian. The time issue is mostly planning, sourcing cards, booking guest visits, making assets, scripting and filming shorts, making thumbnails, editing 1/3 of the videos, building decks and then everything involved with the actual shoots. So far the reduction in videos is giving me a sufficient workload reduction :) hopefully it stays on that path
Really cool idea, would also be nice to see decks built around banned cards, but just with banned cards, so that the decks have more of a theme without legacy wrecking everything
I believe if built decks that were only banned cards legacy will completely crush modern. I would guess their maybe jeskai colours. Run a play set timewalk, ancestral recall, black lotus, some moxes, 4 white plume adventure, 4 lururus of dream den 4 mental mistep, 4 ragavan. Some combination of these broken cards and others. Probably azorius inative tempo would be the deck name. modern on the other hand doesnt really have a deck it can build, the only reason carl didnt win is due to have alot of "bad" legacy cards he ended up drawing into.
OMG "Cardmarket's guide to the Multiverse" and "Freitag Nacht" had me laughing SO hard. Also really cool video! It alternated between Thoralf playing "3-mana win the game" and Carl going "0 mana draw a card, but the card is Consultation without a Thoracle in the deck, except now I hit Balance to prolong my suffering"
Another banger! Videos like this from you are what got me into 60 card magic for real. I had played some as a kid, but didn't realize how deep the gameplay could be or how much history was behind the cards until I saw how much fun you guys were having in your videos. I especially liked the Ragavan vs Lightning Bolts one, that was a lot of fun and it made me realize that the new cards aren't always better in Magic since I was scared off due to all the power creep I'd heard about : D Keep on making fun videos like this, where you take "serious" magic concepts and turn them on their head, please! They're awesome!
Talk about higher quality editing! I love the new cut-ins; brief summaries of everything discussed, those tags across the top bar that could have good applications outside this delightfully silly format, the simple shapes to highlight the interview but not distract from the content. TOP QUALITY
Free for all format. there is no ban lists. deck building is based around other format deckbuilding rules. your life total is based on the deck building format you chose.
That is a REALLY good face on the thumbnail. Also I know you mentioned that you'd still keep the best deck ever series as a 2-every-week, but please don't feel like you have to. I still love watching every video you guys make, whether it's once or twice a week. ALSO also yeesh, new editing?!? Take care of yourself!!!!
yeah you are right, that is certainly weird. Toralf has some explaining to do! Notably they did not show what cards were in their hand this game. So maybe they caught this mistake late?
Each deck is seemingly 1 of each banned card, so there would be no basics in the decks, so they just get a free basic from outside the game each turn. You can even see Toffel do it at 5:56
10:15 didnt thoralf miss lethal here? he could have just put the -1/-1 on Uro as Nadu famously gives all your creatures that broken ability, making Nadu power 10 in the end
Honesty I believe Gitaxian Probe (and Street Wraith whos unbanned) biggest strenght is in..Draw card for only 2 lifes. Of course its not that great against say burn or real tempo decks. But effectively playing 4(8) less cards at low cost is just that good. Its no Pot of Bill (see what I did there? :P ) , but its still banger. Probe could be draw a card and I would still heavily consider playing a playset. Gotta say thoughs I m very happy that you guys runs even "weaker" cards as standalone just for the sake of them. Like certain goblin. This was quite a nostalgic trip. I cannot say I remember having games with all these banned cards, but certainly quite a few.
It's bizarre to me how UA-cam will recommend me a card market video when it's new, I don't watch it right away, and then like 6 hours later it's recommended to me again with a wildly different name and thumbnail
Great video! Could you guys look to do “unbanned” cards in 2024? What does a hogaak deck look like with bridge and faithless banned and can it stack up against boros energy or another of the tier modern decks now?
9:03 carl killed his goblin recruiter with a skullclamp, which should have triggered toralf's bridge from below, making him unable to escape uro on the next turn
It's really cool to see how some cards like Oko are just too powerfull by themselves and get banned from pretty much everywhere but others depend much more on the meta of the format and/or are banned because they enable other broken cards. I wish we could have seen more cards but I guess broken cards make for short games, otherwise they wouln't be broken!
I think the nail in the coffin for Gitaxian Probe was not even the early game stuff. Late game it's also a free way to check your opponent's hand and see if you can close. This was what made it ultimately too oppressive. It removed the risk/reward for some decks if you found it at the right moment
Hey really liked the video but got a bit confused about your mana base. It might be a good idea for next time to take a moment to explain that you only have nonlands in your deck and get free basic lands from outside the deck to remove some confusion. It took me a while to figure this out.
I don't know anything about mixing or levels or anything, but the microphone peaking can be really distracting in your videos sometimes. I Love the easter egg in the drop-down at 2:54. Keep up the good work!
Toralf could've removed a counter in response to the equip to kill the recruiter so he didn't draw two cards and the bridge should've left, meaning no Uro escape. But great game!
In game 1, they missed the Brodge from Below. Carl skullclamped his Goblin recruiter away, so Bridge should have exiled, making him unable to escape Uro.
I was expecting the vintage ban list which only has completely ridiculous and unplayable cards. That would have been so funny, I suggest you try it in another video in this series? Like playing with the ante cards, they are so hilariously broken, like Bronze Tablet which lets you literally steal a card from your opponent... forever! Or like casting Chaos Orb and then Shahrazad? Lmfao
I really love the explanations of why cards were banned and it's a great video as always Hope everyone is doing ok and take care of yourself ❤(it's also aimed at you random viewer who stumbled on that comment)
On further review. As another person pointed out, Uro only requires 5 cards to be exiled for escape, and there were 7 in his graveyard. Looking a moment later, all 7 were exiled, so it seems they played it correctly. It just wasn't mentioned.
Im sorry, is the multiverse guide a reference to guide portions in the film adaptation of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy??? Whether or not, im a huge fan of how it looks, great job on that!
9:20 Judge here. And when it dies, the Bridge from Below in Thoralf's graveyard triggers. You did miss the trigger, but it looks like Thoralf caught it later when he exiled the 6 cards (including bridge) in his graveyard while he was playing Uro instead of the 5 it needed.
Find out more about the banlists here: bit.ly/488ekhF
0:59 this new editing for the commentary is killer. Woah!
thank you! I had a lot of fun coming up with the animations :) - Brian
Love the pop up video style
12:34 “Unfortunately, Thassa’s Oracle isn’t on the banlist”
Truer words have never been spoken
Thassa's Oracle?
@@ryanratcliff2726 Yes, lmao. Thank you
I have been looking forward to this matchup ever since Carl's "Oops, All Bans"-deck ❤
Witch video is that?
@@MrKikke2 I think it's "No Banlist Pioneer"
Looking back it is kinda crazy how long Gitaxian Probe was legal in modern without people realizing how broken it was. It was basically only played in Infect and sometimes in Storm. This thing flew under the radar for waaaay to long.
arclight phoenix is to blame
It was less good in slower modern back when you could play Eternal Witness for value and Tarmogoyf and Siege Rhino were premium threats and life totals mattered more while information from looking at a hand once often didn't last basically the whole game.
Maybe it was still correct to play in more decks though.
@@uselesscommon7761 There are definitely value decks where you wouldn't trade 2-8 life per game for playing 56 cards and don't get much value from looking at their hand, but it's really busted in any deck that benefit from being able to check if the way is clear or they need to play around something, and modern has a lot of those.
@@jaysonkirkpatrick6452 It was banned years before Arclight Phoenix was printed
@@necrocreature9117 you are right, i was thinking of faithless looting.
I think at 9:22 Thoralf's bridge should get exiled.
And then he should not have been able to Escape Uro I believe...
it looks like they caught it but didn't mention it later, as all 6 cards from Thoralf's graveyard were exiled instead of just 5 for escape
@@qba919yeah that’s what was throwing me off. He had 7 cards in graveyard, he exiled 6 when the Titan only needs 5 exiles. So yeah l, even though it was a little awkward, the board state was kept correctly.
@@bryaneal9534 he was left with exactly enough
I believe moving the equipment shouldn't target Nadu, either, because it's an activated on the equipment and that ability is targeting a different creature, but maybe I missed something?
Carl and Team I do love the new graphics but do remember that the point of 1 video was not to overwork yourself! do be careful! Really enjoying the video!
Yep! I love the graphics explaining what they don't read on the cards, but I'm listening to the talking points, I don't need those in a graphic
@@Afgncaatp You may not, but hearing impaired viewers would
Let's hope that the psychic health of the people involved in the video stabilised since nine days ago. Also, what a montage style change with the simple geometric shapes! I like it, it makes following the players' schemes even easier!
The editing in this video is really great! The whole match feels very dynamic and fun
Thank you :)
Carl: I need to take a break from the youtube channel, we're only doing one video a week
Also Carl: Well with all this extra time, I can spend twice as long editing that one video!
Never change Carl.
I think Brian edited this one!
I also have 2 editors helping me with the editing :) this one was done by Brian. The time issue is mostly planning, sourcing cards, booking guest visits, making assets, scripting and filming shorts, making thumbnails, editing 1/3 of the videos, building decks and then everything involved with the actual shoots. So far the reduction in videos is giving me a sufficient workload reduction :) hopefully it stays on that path
@@CardmarketMagic Brian did a great job on this one then!! Glad to hear you're getting a well deserved rest after all.
Really cool idea, would also be nice to see decks built around banned cards, but just with banned cards, so that the decks have more of a theme without legacy wrecking everything
I believe if built decks that were only banned cards legacy will completely crush modern. I would guess their maybe jeskai colours. Run a play set timewalk, ancestral recall, black lotus, some moxes, 4 white plume adventure, 4 lururus of dream den 4 mental mistep, 4 ragavan.
Some combination of these broken cards and others. Probably azorius inative tempo would be the deck name.
modern on the other hand doesnt really have a deck it can build, the only reason carl didnt win is due to have alot of "bad" legacy cards he ended up drawing into.
This would be just legacy t1 winning every game with twister looping recalls
imagine a deck using only the banned cards in Vintage
I kind of want to see this played out a couple more times. There are so many powerful cards we didn't see! And the Nadu / Uro draw was just too lucky.
OMG "Cardmarket's guide to the Multiverse" and "Freitag Nacht" had me laughing SO hard.
Also really cool video! It alternated between Thoralf playing "3-mana win the game" and Carl going "0 mana draw a card, but the card is Consultation without a Thoracle in the deck, except now I hit Balance to prolong my suffering"
You guys always have the best editing tricks. The little blurbs of info sticking out from the cards is such a great visual element
9:12 Wasn't it possible for Toffel to jitte Carl's Goblin recruiter before he equipped it with Skullclamp? Would've meant two fewer cards for him.
They are playing loosey goosey over here
Wasn't supposed to be mansplaining. Just thought that I missed something there. Love those guys
Yeah, that was possible. For fun purposes I am sure they wanted Karl to draw some cards
Could've jitte'd on Nadu to keep triggering that too, but it's not really all that fun to watch I guess.
Yes. He also should have exiled the enchantment from his graveyard as soon as the goblin went to the graveyard.
Really liked the bits with the explanation of the ban, well done
Turn 2? Tolarian Academy opponents dreamed of reaching turn 2. We called that the late game during combo winter.
Only 1990s Type 2 players know the struggle!
Another banger! Videos like this from you are what got me into 60 card magic for real. I had played some as a kid, but didn't realize how deep the gameplay could be or how much history was behind the cards until I saw how much fun you guys were having in your videos. I especially liked the Ragavan vs Lightning Bolts one, that was a lot of fun and it made me realize that the new cards aren't always better in Magic since I was scared off due to all the power creep I'd heard about : D Keep on making fun videos like this, where you take "serious" magic concepts and turn them on their head, please! They're awesome!
I'm really happy you enjoyed this :) thank you for your incredibly kind comment! Hopefully you are having lots of fun with 60 card formats still!
@@CardmarketMagic What a sweet comment : ) I am! I've been playing a lot of premodern and tiny leaders
Talk about higher quality editing!
I love the new cut-ins; brief summaries of everything discussed, those tags across the top bar that could have good applications outside this delightfully silly format, the simple shapes to highlight the interview but not distract from the content. TOP QUALITY
this is literally all I need.
this is the content that makes my evening better.
This was fun, guys! You should play Vintage Cube on the channel more often!
Much love to the Card Market team! Glad to hear you all are taking things slower to prioritize health while still doing a great job here.
Really digging the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy aesthetic.
Would love to see more in this style!
Absolutely love the reason for the bans too!!! Thanks for the vid guys!
THe commentary with the small notes on the side of the card are so good!!
Love the concept. Love the execution. Great job as always
Editing is amazing! I loved the asides where you explained why cards were banned. You have become my favorite MTG channel.
I'm happy you enjoyed it :) we did indeed think the banned cards sometimes required some context!
Free for all format. there is no ban lists. deck building is based around other format deckbuilding rules. your life total is based on the deck building format you chose.
"I'll play a Mountain, which is not banned anywhere"
It is now!
Huh?
@@calfriedman6981 At one point Carl says that about Mountains not being banned...
@@BaronSengir1008 not that
@@hyoroemongaming569 You mean the second part? That was just a joke...
I love the talking heads about why different cards were banned! It's such cool context
Really enjoyed watching this. Seeing so many banned cards play badly shows how much context matters!
I like the normal presentation, but for this game, it was fun to keep things like hand secret. I also like the explanations
so much fun seeing magic played with the broken banned cards! i expected games to end so quickly too!
That is a REALLY good face on the thumbnail.
Also I know you mentioned that you'd still keep the best deck ever series as a 2-every-week, but please don't feel like you have to. I still love watching every video you guys make, whether it's once or twice a week.
ALSO also yeesh, new editing?!? Take care of yourself!!!!
I really like the new graphics you're using for describing cards. Good work with always working to upgrade your videos!
Love the concept, educational (especially for newer players) and entertaining content, well done.
5:38, nadu tap was smoothhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Another great video! Love the "Oops all bans" matchup.
Taking this idea to make a cube called “banned or land” thanks Carl for the spice! And the rest of card market as well
Just want to say that the new format of videos is really nice and the effort can be seen, good job Carl ❤❤
Thank you :)
Fun video. My cube is built around cards that are (or once were) banned.
Legacy ban list is more all over the place because so many of the powerful cards are still fully legal.
Fun concept!
Nadu beeing Nadu... I missed some moxies from Carl, or maybe a Black Lotus? hahaha
After starting my day with a mental breakdown seeing this video in my feed was very healing❤
I hope you are feeling better now :) I'm sorry to hear you had a rough morning
He was right. I didn't expect them to break from the match and start robbing banks. That was wild.
Honestly outdone yourself with the editing here guys. Hope you're all taking care of yourselves
yall goin nuts on the editing for this one fr
How did toralf get both an Island and Nadu on turn 2 after the gitaxian probe revealed he only had a jitte and Uro in hand?
yeah you are right, that is certainly weird. Toralf has some explaining to do! Notably they did not show what cards were in their hand this game. So maybe they caught this mistake late?
Each deck is seemingly 1 of each banned card, so there would be no basics in the decks, so they just get a free basic from outside the game each turn. You can even see Toffel do it at 5:56
Thoralf use the ban move of cheating
Ah I didn't notice this @@poirithanks
Two explores.
I know most of these cards from Canadian Highlander. Thank you points list!!
Skullclamp and Jitte are stupid good.
I haven’t watched the video yet but I am expecting ANTE!
I remeber my dad playing a wierd deck when i was a kid, i think it was a red Kobolds deck. Would be fun to see in action it again
10:15 didnt thoralf miss lethal here? he could have just put the -1/-1 on Uro as Nadu famously gives all your creatures that broken ability, making Nadu power 10 in the end
Honesty I believe Gitaxian Probe (and Street Wraith whos unbanned) biggest strenght is in..Draw card for only 2 lifes. Of course its not that great against say burn or real tempo decks. But effectively playing 4(8) less cards at low cost is just that good. Its no Pot of Bill (see what I did there? :P ) , but its still banger. Probe could be draw a card and I would still heavily consider playing a playset.
Gotta say thoughs I m very happy that you guys runs even "weaker" cards as standalone just for the sake of them. Like certain goblin.
This was quite a nostalgic trip. I cannot say I remember having games with all these banned cards, but certainly quite a few.
Really love your videos :)
The explanaitions to the banned card are awesome as I'm only familiar with the rules :)
It's bizarre to me how UA-cam will recommend me a card market video when it's new, I don't watch it right away, and then like 6 hours later it's recommended to me again with a wildly different name and thumbnail
Great video! Could you guys look to do “unbanned” cards in 2024? What does a hogaak deck look like with bridge and faithless banned and can it stack up against boros energy or another of the tier modern decks now?
9:03 carl killed his goblin recruiter with a skullclamp, which should have triggered toralf's bridge from below, making him unable to escape uro on the next turn
Love you guys! ❤️
Please keep the channel alive!
That's the plan :)
@@CardmarketMagic Good, and take care of yourself Carl. We'd hate to miss your content man!
You need to do this again, so broken and so fun to watch!
Card market's guide to the multiverse kicks ass
It's really cool to see how some cards like Oko are just too powerfull by themselves and get banned from pretty much everywhere but others depend much more on the meta of the format and/or are banned because they enable other broken cards. I wish we could have seen more cards but I guess broken cards make for short games, otherwise they wouln't be broken!
I was a bit disappointed to not see bronze tablet get played, but it was still fun to watch.
14:23 Excuse me, we dont call it fury in this house. Only Wut here. Wut with Doppelschlag
Let me guess, you also yell "WUTANFALL" when you play it.
that wonky half-brewed deck would still eat the top decks of modern! Show how powerful those cards really are.
Liking the editing! Bit of feedback, kind of missing seeing what they have in hand
Showing the cards in hand is extremely time consuming, so we'll only be doing it for the more competitive videos
Oath of Druids and Goblin Recruiter in the same deck? THAT'S good deck building boys hahaha
Wow the editing in this vid is rly good. I hope you didn’t use your new schedule as an excuse to overwork yourself again lol. Great video!
Not to worry :) extra graphics take surprisingly little extra time. Longer videos are what take time
Hell yeah this is such a fun idea!
I think the nail in the coffin for Gitaxian Probe was not even the early game stuff. Late game it's also a free way to check your opponent's hand and see if you can close. This was what made it ultimately too oppressive. It removed the risk/reward for some decks if you found it at the right moment
Hey really liked the video but got a bit confused about your mana base. It might be a good idea for next time to take a moment to explain that you only have nonlands in your deck and get free basic lands from outside the deck to remove some confusion. It took me a while to figure this out.
would love to see a game where you play with cards that are banned in Vintage
Cardmarkets knockoff hitchikers guide is awesome
this was such a fun video, I kinda wish they'd do it again sometime!
I don't know anything about mixing or levels or anything, but the microphone peaking can be really distracting in your videos sometimes. I Love the easter egg in the drop-down at 2:54. Keep up the good work!
Oh, and the MLG sunglasses on Nadu!
Toralf could've removed a counter in response to the equip to kill the recruiter so he didn't draw two cards and the bridge should've left, meaning no Uro escape. But great game!
"You can not play these anywhere" *stares in vintage* - really?
In game 1, they missed the Brodge from Below. Carl skullclamped his Goblin recruiter away, so Bridge should have exiled, making him unable to escape Uro.
Nice reference in the transition.
at 9:12 Thoralf should have activated the Jitte in response to the skullclamp equip to kill his creature and make Carl very sad.
Nah, this video ended up being exactly what I thought it was gonna be from the thumbnail
I was expecting the vintage ban list which only has completely ridiculous and unplayable cards. That would have been so funny, I suggest you try it in another video in this series? Like playing with the ante cards, they are so hilariously broken, like Bronze Tablet which lets you literally steal a card from your opponent... forever! Or like casting Chaos Orb and then Shahrazad? Lmfao
I really love the explanations of why cards were banned and it's a great video as always
Hope everyone is doing ok and take care of yourself ❤(it's also aimed at you random viewer who stumbled on that comment)
Take care of yourself out there as well :) and stay kind!
9:30 you can't cast Uro. You forgot to exile the enchantment after skullclamp killed a creature.
Came to comment on this. They forgot about it. Glad I wasn't the only one who caught that!
On further review.
As another person pointed out, Uro only requires 5 cards to be exiled for escape, and there were 7 in his graveyard. Looking a moment later, all 7 were exiled, so it seems they played it correctly. It just wasn't mentioned.
@@andfriends11 Thanks for the correction. I miscounted.
This would have been even better as a Bo3. Would have liked to see more broken shenanigans.
Really like videos where you play with legacy cards!
Wish you played more than just one game…
We're trying to reduce our workload right now 😅 adding 2-3 games would add multiple days of work in post-production
How do you guys even came up with all this video ideas this is greate holy
Im sorry, is the multiverse guide a reference to guide portions in the film adaptation of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy??? Whether or not, im a huge fan of how it looks, great job on that!
Yes indeed :D I'm happy you enjoyed it - Brian
now let's go pauper vs pioneer , pleassss
The talking head segments explaining the bannings is fantastic
Gg's guys, loved the video
Would be really fun with the pauper banlist
Since
If i remember correctly
About 60% of it is hating on affinity
cool idea! standard vs pauper next?
I wish they would explain what the islands do and give their surprise reactions about its power level
Not sure if it was relevant, but in Game 1, Bridge from Below should have been exiled when Recruiter was clamped
2:22 Mental Mistep was banned because every deck could run it, which meant every deck had to run it
I think Toffel missed lethal by using the -1/-1 on Nadu instead of Uro, since Nadu gives all his creatures that ability
You were wrong cuz that is exactly what I thought it would be! Still a very fun video though :p
This was super fun!
9:20 Judge here. And when it dies, the Bridge from Below in Thoralf's graveyard triggers. You did miss the trigger, but it looks like Thoralf caught it later when he exiled the 6 cards (including bridge) in his graveyard while he was playing Uro instead of the 5 it needed.
-Carl and Thoralf: " we play junk deck todays"
-"Jund deck right?
Right?"