CERAKOTE Professional Ceramic Coating Tested On Wheels | Full Prep Application & Results
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- CERAKOTE Professional Ceramic Coating Tested On Wheels. Full Prep Application and Results. In this video I show the exact preparation I use to apply coatings to wheels to offer maximum effectiveness. The CERAKOTE professional ceramic coating is very different from conventional ceramic coatings. It is a fool proof system to apply, low fumes, no tackiness and no risk of high and low spots. So far it seems to work well on the wheels I am testing but time will tell how this chemistry really will work in the real world scenarios. Stay tuned for updates on this product in the comments.
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5+ week Update and the Cerakote Ceramic Coating On the drivers side wheels has FAILED completely. Now the car was exposed to 14 days of harsh road salt and other deicer chemicals on the streets and lots of precipitation. Is this what stripped the coating down I would assume yes but it has now failed. There is some slight beading on the surface but zero self cleaning properties means the coating is barely hanging on. My passenger side still is holding up about 80% from initial application with our Hyper Gloss Ceramic Spray Sealant. Rumor is that Cerakote obviously recognized an issue with their launch of this new product and are supposed to revise the formula? Let's wait and see as I am on the Beta test list to get a new batch whenever they send it out but things have been very quiet this month regarding this. Was the failure of the coating a curing issue as addressed by the CEO or was it just not designed for wheels? We will see in the coming months what becomes of this new coating technology.
I had same exact experience with CERAKOTE! Hopefully they get it right the 2nd time around....must be a huge blow to CERAKOTE! Or they bounce back strong...let's see :)
I applied Cerakote to my 23 740i , 1 stage prep! Everything seemed fine for about a month. In between time I use honeydew foam ph neutral. I took a 1400 mile trip and 70% of it was in rainy weather. Once I got to my destination, I went to the car wash to rinse it off, I noticed that it wasn’t beading like it was before, I figured it was clogged with road grime. So then I used CLEAN SLATE and it completely removed the coating in more than 70% of the car. CERAKOTE has some explaining to do.
Wow thats crazy please let us know if they respond to your issues. Can you tell us if you applied it in a controlled environment or was it applied outdoors?
It was applied in my garage, my vehicle is garage kept. It was 65 degrees that day.
3 week update. the Cerakote Ceramic Coating is still beading nicely on the face and barrels of my drivers size wheels. I have driven through days of rain, salt and debris and washed these wheels about 12 times since application. They do not 100$ self clean even with wheel cleaner but they seem to still be performing well. There are a bunch of negative videos going around that the coating failed because of a curing issue and the manufacture has addressed that they are working on a solution. In my case the coating did not seem to have any curing or failure issue as of today.
Considering I clean my wheels a minimum of 3x per week I will update everyone on how the Cerakote is holding up by pinning the comment up top of this video. If anyone has tried this new Cerakote ceramic coating please share your results and feedback below.
Cerakote knows that there is a problem with this first version they released and will probably release an updated version. It is a curing issue and thus the different experiences from many users of this coating including me. It also needs the full 5 minutes for it to have the sweating effect.
Hi Mike what steps did you take for curing the coating on your end? Did you apply indoors with a controlled temp ? I kinda went overboard by having my car in the garage for 30hrs with temps at 71F but mainly because it has been so damp with constant rain I wanted to make sure I got the best possible bond but time will tell how this goes and I will update everyone in the comments of this video
Pan is good but you sometime have to question his objectivity
I stopped watching his channel because I just don’t have the time to watch a paid infomercial. I rather get my reviews from honest reviews. I like to see real world results.
Yeah the videos he made were just so obviously paid for, and i’ve seen some people do chemical tests and it really didn’t hold up. Also, there is a guy who made a video on it(it was an orange corvette) and he made an update in the comments saying the coating is not holding up well at all. He did all the proper steps too, full 2 step paint correction and proper prep so it seems like this coating just isn’t what it was marketed to be.
He gets angry when you call him it. Guilty activity 😂
@@fskofSame here. There are so many better people out there. Stopped watching his commercials. Hope others wise up and do the same.
First it was Turtlewax now it’s DIY detail
RE the braking, typicaly if you take traction control off (assuming you have that option) you'll get less dust in the rear. Those system often use rear braking to keep you from oversteering.
Thanks for the thorough and honest review Phil. We can always count on you to be genuine and honest.
Have you ever tried AMMO NYC coatings? Like GELEE Pro?
Larry seems like a man of high character and integrity like yourself, with a similar product quality philosophy.
Happy New Year!
That was eye opening that the initial washing and decon prep did not remove everything that was on the wheels and that something stronger than Gyeon Prep was needed. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching and noticing that which is why i made this video. The white towels do not lie as you see and i am confident to say anyone who has had bad results using any coating really comes down to the preparation and process. Since the Cerakote is the newbie i truly wanted to give it the best possible chance of performance. We will see how it holds up as il update everyone weekly in the comments here
Awesome video as always. Proper prep, real world durability test, no bs hype. Looking forward for the next update on this!
Thank you! Il be posting weekly updates here in the comments section stay tuned
I use Fireball Wax Off before a prep spray. It does a seriously good job of actual prep. Messier than the body shop preps though and requires rinsing. Good video. You really know your stuff.
Its good to see objective review
Im so sad that iam a fan of Pan and to watch him promote Cerakote like he did despite the bad results in durability
Sponsoring killing the detailling !
He does put out great content and that elaborate video tour of factory etc was great to see. I am confident that these early issues some are having will be addressed and revised by Cerakote as they are a serious company. Thanks for watching this video
His response since all the backlash is the alarming part for me. Can’t trust him.
can anyone fill me in on this Pans response as I have not followed much of whats going on and simply do these videos for fun these days. There is always an explanation to everything so we all should hear both sides of whats going on here, so far the coating is working well on the wheels almost at week 2 since i filmed this video
I wondered about the applicators as well. If you cut open the pads that the coats comes with it does have an inner plastic behind the microfiber so it really doesn’t absorb all the product it rubs out on surfaces of paint or glass very well.
I wonder if your results are based on the type of plastic you used? The trim on my Tesla Model Y came out great. I can't speak to durability but i based my decision on videos where the product was holding up after a year.
Such a stunning wheels.
After watching numerous videos about Cerakote, I still can't figure out what makes it industry-disruptive.
Thats a marketing term they used to hype up the launch. It is a completely different chemistry than typical coatings
So bad they had to give it away and create a marketing blitz to get rid of inventory 😂. That’s the disruption. I’m joking but it really doesn’t seem that good.
I think it’s just a cost thing. 2 bottles for 60$, seems to put a coating in your hand that is cheaper than most others. The durability concerns me tho. I bought it, it’s still in my closet waiting for spring but I’m still watching all these reviews to see how others are doing with durability
I stopped watching “pan the sellout” about 3 years ago.
I will be watching this closely. I was planning on using Gyeon Mohs Evo on the wheels of my 23 QV this spring so this test came at the right time.
As of now it looks like the Hyper Gloss is working better 👍
Glad it helped I am going to keep everyone updated on the performance each week in the comments as I wash and clean my wheels many times each week. If i see any performance change or drop the comment will be pinned above in this video section so keep an eye on that. So far since I shot this video I have washed and cleaned my wheels twice. I will most likely do it after the Holiday and continue on with my weekly regimen.
Mohs Evo is a very good coating but not high solids. I’m not sure how it’ll hold up on wheels. It’s doing great on my paint. I used Armour Detail’s wheel coating and that has been legit so far.
Mohs Evo is wrong for wheels. Gyeon Quartz Rim is what you need. Will protect and last significantly better than any spray sealant also.
Start using R-Evolve-X from the UK. Strongest wheel coating on the planet.
Stoner Car Care has a new Iron Remover that is sulfur-free & smells fine. It DOES have an issue with staining some concrete & some coated plastics - Stoner is working on a new version.
I refuse to use any iron products there so toxic to end user
Stoner's is pH neutral. I'd check the ingredients before making that statement. The solvents in the Gyeon wheel coating that you inhaled that kept you awake is worse than anything an iron remover can do to you. @@autofanaticcars
Two Week Update: I have now cleaned my wheels 5X since making this video. So far the drivers side wheels coated with Cerakote are still beading perfectly on the spokes. There are now larger water beads in the barrels where as in this initial video the beads appeared smaller. There still is minor brake dust residue left in the barrels even after blasting our Auto Fanatic Wheel Cleaning Foam in the foam cannon. These wheels are difficult to rinse in the barrels with limited clearance so this tends to be typical.Also notice some brake dust residue all so slightly in the lug pockets now on the rear wheel but not the front wheel. After physical inspection the barrel wheel finish is horrible on these wheels and there is also micro pitting from stone chips throughout which might be causing more grab effect of the brake dust. The passenger side coated wheels with Auto Fanatic Hyper Gloss still feels slicker to the touch and have better hydrophobic performance and is offering better self cleaning action. On the passenger side coated with our Auto Fanatic Hyper Gloss Ceramic Spray Sealant you can actually see more brake dust in the foam run off from using our Auto Fanatic Wheel Cleaning Foam. I may post a short video on Instagram later today showing this so check that out. Is the Cerakote coating starting to fail I can not make that judgement as of today January 3rd but will update everyone as I continue to live with it and see how it performs.Please continue to share and post your feedback below so I can share with the manufacture direct.
Meticulous work Phil, as always. 👌👏
Many thanks!
Going to make my son and daughter watch this - They think I’m “OCD” when it comes to taking care of my car. Wheels off and power washed twice a year. On the black painted wheels I use a wash and wax product, marketed for airplane applications, every time I wash the car, which is once, sometimes twice a week. After five years the wheels look great. I guess I’m a 90% Auto Fanatic. Admire your attention to detail. Happy motoring 🤠
Preparation is so critical and I cannot stress that enough. Considering the professional nature of my business restoring and customizing high end cars we always want to over prep so when applying finishes, adhesives etc we eliminate failures and come backs. Ive had this work ethic since I started working on cars over 30 years ago seeing all comebacks from other shops and constant lost money redoing jobs others did due to failures in prep
Fantastic detailed video Phil. It was amazing how much tar/dirt came off the barrels with each prep step and just goes to show how much prep is needed to get the best results from any coating on the market. I wish I lived close to you to have my 2019 Giulia coated. Me living in California is just too far to drive. LOL
Glad you enjoyed it and glad you saw the prep portion i feel 99% of coating failures and adhesive failure is due to inadequate preparation and a controlled environment in regards to ambient temperature. It’s a ton of labor but only choice if you want the best results
Thanks for another great video Phil ! I appreciate all the content that you provide to us and I wanted to wish you and your family a very Happy New Year and all the best in 2024 !
Thank you for the kind words and have a Happy New Year’s 2024 🎉
Seems like you’re not hitting the barrels on the driver side wheel as much as the passenger side with the pressure washer, hence why the passenger side barrels are cleaner than the driver side. Just an observation…
my pressure washer is 2500psi at 2.6 GPM it’s a serious professional rig and I actually hit all 4 wheels pretty good and probably hit Cerakote harder and these are real results of two complete different products on the same substrate. Our Auto Fanatic Hyper Gloss Ceramic Spray Sealant does feel slicker to the touch as I commented in the video when I touched the spokes. Slicker means less resistance to grab which is why the barrel had less residue on the passenger side.
Thank you for introducing me to prep-all; i will keep that on top of my list next time i apply a coating. 'Other influencers' have suggested that IPA based prep sprays will smear the oils&solvents it's supposed to remove unless a 2 towel method prep is used. What do you think? Luckily for me on my Cerakote install, my Honda has never been coated before and i don't think anything but traditional wax had ever been on it until that point (except for Q2 wax on the top only). I do think that the Cerakote spray does repair/revive the coating if it gets messed up but that's kinda hard to prove for social media.
Ipa alone is really not strong enough to fully strip clean a surface as I showed in this video. This is why i use both solvent prep sol and ipa along with mechanical polish cleaning etc
Great info man, and how someone said once “prep is key”. Do you also use the prep-sol on paint before polishing like you did with this wheel? Or after you polish the paint?
I use prep sol whenever doing a serious correction or applying 3M vhb tapes etc
Thank you and you're welcome.
Thank you for the video Phil!
You bet!
Have you tested any of the other koch chemie products other than the Green Star?
Yes they performed well but way overpriced
I have a slightly off topic question. I have a ‘24 230i coming in a few weeks. The BMW dealership offers a Cilajet coating. I have read about lawsuits against the company for its poor quality and possible damage to paint. Are you familiar with this product? Thanks!
Never pay a dealer for anything related to car care all scams
@@autofanaticcarsThank you for confirming my thoughts. I’m going to an independent detailer for a Gyeon coating and bumper PPF.
Snake oil/WD-40! Don’t do it. Save your money, watch a few videos, take some patience, and do it yourself. There are a few user friendly coatings available.
Cerakote is definitely not shake oil the videos your comparing the bad results were not properly prepared or done in a controlled environment. I will keep everyone updates on how the performance of the Cerakote does on the wheels each week as I wash my car and clean my wheels 3+ times per week.. Yes there are easier spray products that perform exception such as out Hyper Gloss but some prefer a long term coating
Can you use prepsol I’m sure I spelled that wrong on a fiberglass boat before I ceramic coat a boat?
Gotta be careful on fiberglass’s as there are tiny open pores sometimes in gelcoat and if you don’t let the prep sol fully evaporate it can affect the coating.
What I’m curious about is if the cerakote professional coating would perform nicely as a window coating? I bought a couple packages and don’t want to apply to others cars if it won’t hold up on the paint…
I honestly would suggest a glass specific coating as others have reported a curing issue with Cerakote but they are revisiting the formula.
Can you link the white towels you said it was from Amazon
I Will tomorrow
@@autofanaticcars ok
towels are no linked FYI and I just bought another 90 pack
Thanks so much
What a pretty wheel
Yeah the style really compliments the car so well
hot water?
No hot brakes
Prep All is another option to clean before coating. Use mask and gloves while using. Prior Preparation Prevents Poor Performance.
That’s exactly what i used in the video as my final step
2nd
Here first!!!!
I dont really understand how your praising your surface prep abilities when skipping an iron remover. Your individual preferences aside it's one of the most important parts of decon and you using an APC with a clay towel is not a substitute.
If you don't like iron remover use less of it, use it outside or find a chemical substitute which doesn't stink such as the new iron remover from stoner.
I'm not a fan of cerakote. Complaining about a coatings performance without an iron remover is the equivalent to complaining how your coating performs after using dish soap.
That's interesting...iron remover being identified as one of the most important steps in decon before ceramic coat application. 😂 Funny how ScottHD performed a longevity test in 2018 with 34 products on a test hood and some coatings lasted the 2.5 year span. His surface prep was a wash, clay, rotary polish, and degrease with isopropyl...not even a sentiment of iron remover.
Chemical guy's got some shit that smells like bubble gum