Path of exile needs more videos LIKE THIS! Simple, straightforward and step by step. I have probably played the game for over 1000 hours since it came out on Xbox. I consider myself a casual player, because I get bored with the grinding nature of the endgame. The problem with 75% to 90% of path of exile videos is it they are geared towards people who already know how to do what the video is supposed to be teaching you how to do. You already know how to map sustain. Now, let me tell you the most efficient way to map sustain You already know how to build a character. Now, let me show you the best character to build. The only way to demystify this game for people is to make straightforward videos like this that assume the player knows very little about the topic and aren’t filled with acronyms (I could go on a whole rant about content creators using far too many acronyms and abbreviations ) 😂
Wow this video was incredibly helpful. You were very thorough and insightful; not a second of my time was wasted watching that. I’m excited to try out some of your tips later tonight! It’s really nice to have a strong and outgoing community to support such a complex game.
I played 2.3 k hours... and i didnt invest enogh in white/yellow maps... just trans/alch them and go... second thing is... i only vaal good rolled red maps... not the bad ones... lul but he is right... why waste a already good outcome...
@@DasHeino2010 wtf? I have 2.8k hours into poe.. But holy moly dude. You have to vaal all red tier maps to get the achievment. When you have sirus 8/7 you have unlock most of the awakened bonuses. But you never put a vaal orb on it.
@@shiosuke4837 I mean... i vaal for the bonus and so... but if i had these already... i would only vaal good rolls... wich is just a waste of an already good outcome ^^
Thank you for being so detailed in this.. been playing 2 years and this season been struggling on sustaining t14+ maps, followed as much of this video as i could remember. Went from 4 t14+ maps to 29 t14-t16 maps in 3 hours. Cost me some currency but the return was much more profitable. Double thumbs up
The time stamp thing isn't working for some reason yet, idk why. Probably takes UA-cam some time to be able to do it. Check the description in the meantime.
Hey just found your video. Timestamps are still not working for this video. No problem. Just youtube weirdness :) Thanks for the guide! Can't wait to try it all out this weekend!
I'm new to the game. I don't know anyone who can do succinct explanations as you do. Thank you for taking the time to keep it all simple to understand. You've relieved me of my PTSD when I first looked at the global map that was all greyed out and I had no idea what I was supposed to do.
just run new maps and know how to complete your atlas. After that you will have no problems with maps. But when you struggle you can also do blighted maps for some maps or Lab. :)
This was hands down the most helpful video about the atlas/maps that I've found. Most of the others from the big name streamers skipped over pretty much all of this and assumed that you know what all this is.
It would be good to mention that now in Harvest you can easily reroll bad map mods or upgrade normal maps to rare using harvest crafting and not worry too much about spending alchemy and chaos orbs
I'm more than half-way though the atlas and JUST figured that out yeaterday. People need to mention it more often. Obviously in this video he wanted to stick to core mechanics and not be too league-specific. But good to know for sure
I have played this game for like 300 hours and finaly understanded all of it . Thanks ! Btw nice build guides in this channel , realy powerfull . Keep up the great work !
Hey Big Ducks. I have been following all the OG poe content creators for years now and am glad to have added you to the list! Great informative content for everyone! Thanks mate. Keep it up!
I know this video is quite old, but I needed this so much! I had a major problem sustaining and this did wonders for me. Tnx for all the awesome content. Regularly check your Channel and it has improved a lot of aspects of the game for me. Keep it coming and keep up the good work. You don't beat around the bush and go straight into the subject, just as it should be 👍🏼
This is so helpful, i was struggling to get higher maps, all i ended up getting was t5 constantly even when doing t5, ill try all this when i get back from work and hopefully it helps me next league too
Not all hero's wear capes! I love POE but I seriously can't figure things out, like I should just go hide in a closet with my paste and cry. This made it a bit easier, stuck on the Atlas and trying to understand the Watchstones and 90 videos later I am ready to grab my paste again..I think this was my biggest problem with trying to get the tier maps I need, I am/was not rolling them right. - thank you for this!!
Good content and clear explanations. I'm still at a stage where I'm just trying to improve my build so that I feel confident in high-tier maps. I'll probably come back to this at a later date.
This video helped alot. Ive been having a ton of trouble getting maps to drop. Thanks for the video. Also the tip with the 4 chisels on white maps was a great tip, I had no idea.
Hey BD, I actually watch this video to relax-thank you for sharing and Happy Holidays. So. When you describe why Einhar is useful, you say "Glass Can Chans" or something... I think Einhar's experience as a Roadie and being an additional Summon that does damage is why he is good to have around. :-)
Good vid. The only thing I didnt see you mention, and I may have missed it cause I did jump ahead a bit, is adding prophecies. They can add a decent amount of mobs to a map for little investment. In being a Karen and reminding you about these, I am also being a hypocrite because I am incredibly good at forgetting them myself.
Great guide. I just started getting into high tier maps, and I have been having trouble getting high tier maps. I have completed all the bonus objectives up to lv 12/13 so far and I am trying to compete all of them.
Holy shit, I play this game for a few years now and I actually didnt know you can see your objectives when alt-pressing maps...this makes everything so much easier....I have to go now...
Last couple days i was looking for a BV build and how to craft a explode chest and now that i need a map sustain guide to farm seeds faster, YOU'RE HERE TOO??? what's the next coincidence?
Helped me alot thanks, I was mainly focused on getting over 100 maps cleared which is the most important thing like you said, but I ignored every other mechanic. thanks!
One thing I haven't heard people talk about, is that if you're doing the challenges you need to find a balance. For example, you can do things so it takes an hour or more per map. But if you need to do a couple thousand maps to get a challenge, that's not practical. I find that chiseling, alchemy, and getting all the bonuses+awakening bonuses is enough. I rarely use sextants or scarabs, only in special cases like when a scarab is for a challenge. I get my 40 challenges done in just under a month, so it seems to work for me.
2 MORE TIPS: 1. After evry single map with Zana mission (you dont need run map if you dont whana, just activate on shity map) gives you RESET of shes shop offer. You can use it to grab some maps that you need to compleate bonus or find some influenced/unique maps. Most of trades are for chance orbs/alhcs/chaos. Be careful with buing expensive guardian/unique maps. Sometimes the price on market is significantly lower. 2. There is a site that allow to exchange maps betwen players. If you have done most of maps on some tier, and you need 2-4 maps to compleate that tier you can just exchange with other players. Site is called PoeMap. Be careful on spam if you list too many things in one time.
nice vid. just one thing, at 15:40 you said something about barrels being useless. If you get the barrels mod and use it in a Vaults of Atziri map you will get tons high quality drops.
On top of this map mods also apply to the grove. Meaning if you harvest lifeforce in a upgraded map you get more lifeforce and i think more items too :)
The Barrel sextant can actually be pretty good. Depends what you get though. Also get used to dying here and there on juiced maps. You're gonna say "Wtf just killed me???!!" Quite a bit, but it's worth it.
doesn't matter what your bonus and awakening objective bonus completion is at if you don't say what your map awakening level is. If you're doing those 10 tier16 maps with awakening level 1 and have a loot filter to hide out-leveled maps, then you'll not see much map t16 map sustain. Don't forget to add your map favorites on the side as well.
@@QuockaFlocka Awakening lvl 8. Puting a T16 map as favourite map don't make t16 more common. And a T16 map can't be an outleveled map, and, obiously, my filter doesn't count t14-15 as outleveled. When I said "not a single map" I meant T15-16.
1. Yes, if we're talking about a 1 map sample size, then it's unlucky but not far from unexpected. You'll average out in a 10 map sample size. 2. Adding a T16 map as a favorite increases the odds of your maps dropping when a map drop rolls and that means you have a higher chance at getting better t16:t15:t14 ratio than if you didn't have a t16 map favorited. If you're trying to sustain T16 maps, then you definitely want as few t14 maps dropping relative to t15 and t16 since only unique bosses from t14 can drop t16 maps.
Are you telephatic or something? I was reading guides regarding maps sustaining. They were all about juicing but they missed one important detail - the less tiers on the atlas then you get better sustains. It worked for me. Otherwise heavy juicing might be furtile without it. So for example 2 stones in the inner circle and 1 in the outer circle.
Actually answered all my questions thank you. Was wondering why only white maps are dropping, poe atlas introduction for new players should be little bit more than that in actual game, it just says plug your watchstones in your little box and go kill something.
Awesome video, although I didn't need most of it, it was enjoyable to watch. Great content for people who are new. I know I would love that kind of video when I started playing.
I try as much as possible to SFF maps, even though I am not on SFF. Main reason is that it helps you understand how maps drop and not relying on trades. Also if I do trade maps, 95% of players does not reply. With the current league, I am able to reach 120+ completion and 20 watchstones with less than 10 trades of maps (Except for t15 beach head which I use for leveling)
One of the best map sustain aspects is Zana's store. Buy all of her maps, then, when you open a map with a Zana mission chosen, her store gets restocked again.
I dunno I have been investing in maps, and here is an example. I got a t16 Geode Map, chiseled it up to 20%, alched it, Vaaled it, and had 4 watchstones not only in Lira Arthain but in the surrounding areas. I a t3 Shore map from that investment. For every 4-5 t11+ map that I invest in I get maybe 1 t11 or higher map. Shore is on the other side of the map! Edit: I used 3 Sacrifice to the map as well.
Heyo! I don't know if I missed you saying you can purchase maps from Zana after completing her missions :) This was really important for me for progression and a lot of new players might not know. Have an amazing week! Great video!
One thing as it was refered in the video when u vaal a map u can increase the tier, he didn't mentioned that changed the location of the map, not the zone but the map name and this is important for 2 things first might be a layout that u don't like (indoors), second and most important it hinders your progress cause u might already done that map and if u wanna be fast to completee u should repeat maps if possible. This is why sometimes I don't vaal maps while I am completing the athlas
Oh ok. So I should at least spread them enough to have all tiers represented. Time to go make some adjustments then. Keep up the good work! Love your stuff :)
I have the same issue. I have 16 watchstones and I’m not sure where to put them. In the slots where is says “obtained”? When running T15/16 maps with watchstones I still can’t get influence anymore. The conquerors won’t show up.
@@stefanoslan the game clearly helps you in the quest list - it says for example "search regions with 4 socketed watchstones". Hover over the citadel and if all 4 lines are "obtained" - you're done with it. move your stones elsewhere.
Great presentation ! Any chance you could offer us some explanation about the difference between Awakener level 5 and 8 Sirus and how the conqueror encounters differ between those levels and before ? Thanks and be well :-)
I havent done much mapping in conquerors of the atlas. Im still curious about the mechanics of maps dropping when you first socket watchstones. Can any t4 lead to a t5 beach drop, for example? Great video though i will incorporate these tips
To my understanding if you have finished the beach map then yes, it can be dropped from any map that is one tier lower. However, maps that you haven't completed can be only gotten by playing maps that are "next to" them. The absolute main goal when you are mapping is to do bonus objectives. If you are missing a certain map it is also a good idea to just buy those maps from other players. This way you will steadily continue your progress. I have pretty much done all the bonus missions from Atlas this league and when I am mapping with pretty much zero investment (I am just alching and chiseling my maps) I usually get around 2-3 map drops per map.
item quant doesnt affect map drops btw this was cleared out by chris wilson during 1 podcast and was the reason why bisco's collar went down in price/ not popular anymore for map sustain
item rarity is not important against map drops, but there is data on grinding high rarity vs high quantity and actually i believe high rarity gives great results even tho the usual understanding and consensus is against it. but still just understanding the core concepts + just playing the game will get you through and give u hundreds and thousands of maps
I just saw this video in 3.12 on a time that I thought contracts are squeezing out the drop rate of maps for me, which I completed 154/154 in delirium and 153/154 in harvest. So I thought maybe I am missing some basics and the previous experiences were just dumb luck. It turned out that it is me chasing the conquerors too hard that I placed all my 16 watchstone in the centre 4 areas, making me get no more drops between T5 to T13, before I build up enough cache for T14+
Yo don't diss the barrel sextant, the barrels actually have really good drops, especially if it's the worm barrels. Unless you have a build that doesn't really explode the chests by itself, a summoner for example.
Just a heads up you can get special circumstance drops cause I got a tier 13 unique map in my first ever map. It was dropped from a unique strongbox alongside two other tier 3 unique maps. I'm assuming this was just a random loot drop outside of the in-map rules like I could have looted in a heist or just from any other unique strongbox.
im new to the game so this is a lot of help, btw what happens to the tier1-4 maps that i havent unlock can i still finish it and get the bonus coz i got 8watchstones now and those nodes are now replaced with tier 6-9 maps? ty
Hey sorry, may be a stupid question. But i got tier 3 maps and then i put watchstones in them and that area becomes upgraded, How do i then get the yellow level maps in that area? The watchstones are the really confusing part.
Honestly the easiest one to do is promenade since you can orb of Horizon any T16 map into it (there's only 3 different possibilities). But my opinion is if your target farming another map just sell the ones you get that you don't want and buy the ones you do. Probably the simplest way.
What the favorite system does is basically add any map you favorite 10x into the loot pool, so if you favorite a map 3x, you'll have a 31 to "however many other maps of that tier are on the atlas"-chance of getting that map. Means your best two options imho are, either favorite 2-3 different maps of each tier (t14-t16) 3x each and you'll be able to easily run only maps you've favorited, or favorite the map you want 3x and remove watchstones from your other regions until there are as little maps of the same tier on the atlas as possible, and then you can build a huge pool of that map as you'll have something like a 31:4 chance (depending on how many maps of that tier you still have on your atlas) of dropping the map you've favorited with each map drop of that tier. Also, get high map quant, alch every map, reroll them to 60%+ quant without chisel, 75%-80%+ with chisel and vaal them, it's worth it, vaal orbs are super cheap these days, chisels are debatable, very expensive atm but prob still worth.
question: you said you should be able to see the map you wanna do on the atlas to get any drops. does that include the map tier? like if i run a crimson temple map tier 11 but only see a tier 13 on the atlas, would i still yield maps outta it?
Thank you for the guide. I have a question, If I need to find a tier 14 map, is it necessary for the tier 14 map to be next to the map that I run or in the same region, or just have a tier 14 map in atlas to be able to drop?
My issue is currently, that i got somehow a bunch of Watchstones, yet if i socket them, most my Maps i have are then to low in lvl to either spawn a Quonquorer or drop higher tiers of maps. I barely after a couple of days managed to get up to 8 Watchstones, and now i'm stuck. Worst thing in my opinion, that this new system devalues your entire map pool ou accumulated when you have to socket stones to progress. As a new player, this does cost me double time and ressources to somehow manage, which made me quit the last time around.
How strong is the 1% awakener bonus to drop a connected map? I'm at 142 bonus complitions and A6 but find it hard to sustain t14-t16. I try to run every map with sextant chissel and Fragments but get 7 maps per 10 maps invested kind of wierd
That moment when the juiced map is for me a "normal" map. Lul. For me is a juiced map as follows: Delirium Orbs, Awakened sextants with "Beyond, Currency items from rare monsters, Additional Breach/legion and Hunter treasures", with Scarabs like "Additional 3 breach, 3 harbinger, 150/250% more divination cards and more uniques/legion/metamorph. As extra unique watchstones with packsize and sometimes for a t19 map the 3 other ones. For maxmal output I choose nemesis and also Alva for a lot of loot. :D Its a lot of investment, yeah, but holy moly those maps are awesome
The fact that rarity doesn't help map or currency drops is news to me. Thanks for pointing that out. Guess I better stop buying the "quantity also applies to rarity" maps from Zana...
i always end up with 2-4 zones with red maps and still no T1-5 maps dropping in the other Zones when i run the lower tiers ( i havent socketed watchstones in those regions )
I can see the map on the atlas and i am doing the maps directly connected to it and YET i ran 8 with 20 quality and alchemy but the drops are either tier 1 or from a completely diffirent far region. What am i missing here? I am getting t1 drops from a t5 map ffs this is frustrating.
i can litteraly sustain my t 14-16 with awakener lvl 5 about 90/154 and 30/154 and i rarely do more than chisle-alch (and vaal for bonus) Soo im not making that much currency but map sustain is almost never a problem with the new atlas
Path of exile needs more videos LIKE THIS! Simple, straightforward and step by step. I have probably played the game for over 1000 hours since it came out on Xbox. I consider myself a casual player, because I get bored with the grinding nature of the endgame. The problem with 75% to 90% of path of exile videos is it they are geared towards people who already know how to do what the video is supposed to be teaching you how to do. You already know how to map sustain. Now, let me tell you the most efficient way to map sustain You already know how to build a character. Now, let me show you the best character to build. The only way to demystify this game for people is to make straightforward videos like this that assume the player knows very little about the topic and aren’t filled with acronyms (I could go on a whole rant about content creators using far too many acronyms and abbreviations ) 😂
Yes!!!
The best video I've seen to clearly understand how effectively upgrade your map and get real sustain. Thanks you very much !
Wow this video was incredibly helpful. You were very thorough and insightful; not a second of my time was wasted watching that. I’m excited to try out some of your tips later tonight! It’s really nice to have a strong and outgoing community to support such a complex game.
I already knew most of this but this guide is very well made, and I'm sure new players will love this
I agree
I played 2.3 k hours... and i didnt invest enogh in white/yellow maps... just trans/alch them and go...
second thing is... i only vaal good rolled red maps... not the bad ones... lul but he is right... why waste a already good outcome...
@@DasHeino2010 wtf? I have 2.8k hours into poe.. But holy moly dude. You have to vaal all red tier maps to get the achievment. When you have sirus 8/7 you have unlock most of the awakened bonuses. But you never put a vaal orb on it.
@@shiosuke4837 I mean... i vaal for the bonus and so... but if i had these already... i would only vaal good rolls... wich is just a waste of an already good outcome ^^
Thank you for being so detailed in this.. been playing 2 years and this season been struggling on sustaining t14+ maps, followed as much of this video as i could remember. Went from 4 t14+ maps to 29 t14-t16 maps in 3 hours. Cost me some currency but the return was much more profitable. Double thumbs up
The time stamp thing isn't working for some reason yet, idk why. Probably takes UA-cam some time to be able to do it. Check the description in the meantime.
It's funny that it didn't work on the first video that you pointed out the cool new feature lol
Hey just found your video. Timestamps are still not working for this video. No problem. Just youtube weirdness :) Thanks for the guide! Can't wait to try it all out this weekend!
I'm new to the game. I don't know anyone who can do succinct explanations as you do. Thank you for taking the time to keep it all simple to understand. You've relieved me of my PTSD when I first looked at the global map that was all greyed out and I had no idea what I was supposed to do.
honestly this video is a godsend.... thank you!
Over 78hours on one character and not getting passed tier 12 maps! This is gonna help massively.
Sometimes you just have to buy a map 1T higher
Was stuck on T11 then bought a T12 and now I run T14-16 infinitely
I looked everywhere for a clear, thorough explanation of map sustain. This is amazing, thank you so much.
just run new maps and know how to complete your atlas. After that you will have no problems with maps. But when you struggle you can also do blighted maps for some maps or Lab. :)
Oh man, this is the best explanation I've seen. It helped me a lot, even though I have >1000 hours in the game. Thanks.
Pure gold not a wasted minute with all this valuable info. Thanks again, you make learning about this game interesting and fun rather than tedious.
This was hands down the most helpful video about the atlas/maps that I've found. Most of the others from the big name streamers skipped over pretty much all of this and assumed that you know what all this is.
It would be good to mention that now in Harvest you can easily reroll bad map mods or upgrade normal maps to rare using harvest crafting and not worry too much about spending alchemy and chaos orbs
I'm more than half-way though the atlas and JUST figured that out yeaterday. People need to mention it more often. Obviously in this video he wanted to stick to core mechanics and not be too league-specific. But good to know for sure
You can stick maps in there? :o
@@tuomas3505 yep, you can stick most items in there!
I have played this game for like 300 hours and finaly understanded all of it . Thanks ! Btw nice build guides in this channel , realy powerfull . Keep up the great work !
This man is just an outstanding UA-camr on every level
Hey Big Ducks. I have been following all the OG poe content creators for years now and am glad to have added you to the list! Great informative content for everyone! Thanks mate. Keep it up!
I know this video is quite old, but I needed this so much! I had a major problem sustaining and this did wonders for me. Tnx for all the awesome content. Regularly check your Channel and it has improved a lot of aspects of the game for me. Keep it coming and keep up the good work. You don't beat around the bush and go straight into the subject, just as it should be 👍🏼
This is so helpful, i was struggling to get higher maps, all i ended up getting was t5 constantly even when doing t5, ill try all this when i get back from work and hopefully it helps me next league too
Super excited about this video! :) I need this!
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Not all hero's wear capes! I love POE but I seriously can't figure things out, like I should just go hide in a closet with my paste and cry. This made it a bit easier, stuck on the Atlas and trying to understand the Watchstones and 90 videos later I am ready to grab my paste again..I think this was my biggest problem with trying to get the tier maps I need, I am/was not rolling them right. - thank you for this!!
Dont worry same here
This is top notch explanation, I just started exploring the Atlas for the first time and this helped me a ton, well done mate
Good content and clear explanations. I'm still at a stage where I'm just trying to improve my build so that I feel confident in high-tier maps. I'll probably come back to this at a later date.
thank you for making content starting at bare bones level then escalating up . appreciate it!
This video helped alot. Ive been having a ton of trouble getting maps to drop. Thanks for the video. Also the tip with the 4 chisels on white maps was a great tip, I had no idea.
Just fyi this is true for glassblower orbs as well. They increase flask quality 5% on white flasks and 2% on blue.
Hey BD, I actually watch this video to relax-thank you for sharing and Happy Holidays. So. When you describe why Einhar is useful, you say "Glass Can Chans" or something... I think Einhar's experience as a Roadie and being an additional Summon that does damage is why he is good to have around. :-)
LOL It's been 2 years of playing this game and I had no idea about a lot of information in this video. Thanks!
Thanks mate. Great summary! I've definitley been underinvesting in maps.
Good vid. The only thing I didnt see you mention, and I may have missed it cause I did jump ahead a bit, is adding prophecies. They can add a decent amount of mobs to a map for little investment. In being a Karen and reminding you about these, I am also being a hypocrite because I am incredibly good at forgetting them myself.
Great guide. I just started getting into high tier maps, and I have been having trouble getting high tier maps. I have completed all the bonus objectives up to lv 12/13 so far and I am trying to compete all of them.
Holy shit, I play this game for a few years now and I actually didnt know you can see your objectives when alt-pressing maps...this makes everything so much easier....I have to go now...
Last couple days i was looking for a BV build and how to craft a explode chest and now that i need a map sustain guide to farm seeds faster, YOU'RE HERE TOO???
what's the next coincidence?
Helped me alot thanks, I was mainly focused on getting over 100 maps cleared which is the most important thing like you said, but I ignored every other mechanic. thanks!
One thing I haven't heard people talk about, is that if you're doing the challenges you need to find a balance. For example, you can do things so it takes an hour or more per map. But if you need to do a couple thousand maps to get a challenge, that's not practical. I find that chiseling, alchemy, and getting all the bonuses+awakening bonuses is enough. I rarely use sextants or scarabs, only in special cases like when a scarab is for a challenge. I get my 40 challenges done in just under a month, so it seems to work for me.
As a beta player returning, it was a huge help! Thanks!
Well done my man. Keep up the good work.
2 MORE TIPS:
1. After evry single map with Zana mission (you dont need run map if you dont whana, just activate on shity map) gives you RESET of shes shop offer. You can use it to grab some maps that you need to compleate bonus or find some influenced/unique maps. Most of trades are for chance orbs/alhcs/chaos. Be careful with buing expensive guardian/unique maps. Sometimes the price on market is significantly lower.
2. There is a site that allow to exchange maps betwen players. If you have done most of maps on some tier, and you need 2-4 maps to compleate that tier you can just exchange with other players. Site is called PoeMap. Be careful on spam if you list too many things in one time.
nice vid. just one thing, at 15:40 you said something about barrels being useless. If you get the barrels mod and use it in a Vaults of Atziri map you will get tons high quality drops.
Excellent info. Learned a lot ? Thank you very much.
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My god, thanks so much for this super clear explanation. amazing! :)
On top of this map mods also apply to the grove. Meaning if you harvest lifeforce in a upgraded map you get more lifeforce and i think more items too :)
The Barrel sextant can actually be pretty good. Depends what you get though. Also get used to dying here and there on juiced maps. You're gonna say "Wtf just killed me???!!" Quite a bit, but it's worth it.
It's not worth it to lose days' worth of progress in an instant just because you're greedy
Ever since the new atlas system came, I have never had a problem with map sustaining. New atlas system is so good.
Thank you for the tips.. this is a big help a beginner like me.. hope to see more
149/154 and 140/154. 10 Tier 16 with 90+ quant, sextants, t2 map scarab and 3xScrifice frags, NOT A SINGLE MAP DROPED.
GGG hates me :C
doesn't matter what your bonus and awakening objective bonus completion is at if you don't say what your map awakening level is. If you're doing those 10 tier16 maps with awakening level 1 and have a loot filter to hide out-leveled maps, then you'll not see much map t16 map sustain. Don't forget to add your map favorites on the side as well.
@@QuockaFlocka Awakening lvl 8. Puting a T16 map as favourite map don't make t16 more common. And a T16 map can't be an outleveled map, and, obiously, my filter doesn't count t14-15 as outleveled.
When I said "not a single map" I meant T15-16.
1. Yes, if we're talking about a 1 map sample size, then it's unlucky but not far from unexpected. You'll average out in a 10 map sample size.
2. Adding a T16 map as a favorite increases the odds of your maps dropping when a map drop rolls and that means you have a higher chance at getting better t16:t15:t14 ratio than if you didn't have a t16 map favorited. If you're trying to sustain T16 maps, then you definitely want as few t14 maps dropping relative to t15 and t16 since only unique bosses from t14 can drop t16 maps.
Are you telephatic or something? I was reading guides regarding maps sustaining.
They were all about juicing but they missed one important detail - the less tiers on the atlas then you get better sustains. It worked for me. Otherwise heavy juicing might be furtile without it. So for example 2 stones in the inner circle and 1 in the outer circle.
Another way to get maps you're missing is to buy them from Zana, and refresh her stock when you do one of her missions
Actually answered all my questions thank you. Was wondering why only white maps are dropping, poe atlas introduction for new players should be little bit more than that in actual game, it just says plug your watchstones in your little box and go kill something.
Good simple breakdown. I needed a brush up.
Awesome video, although I didn't need most of it, it was enjoyable to watch. Great content for people who are new. I know I would love that kind of video when I started playing.
I try as much as possible to SFF maps, even though I am not on SFF. Main reason is that it helps you understand how maps drop and not relying on trades. Also if I do trade maps, 95% of players does not reply. With the current league, I am able to reach 120+ completion and 20 watchstones with less than 10 trades of maps (Except for t15 beach head which I use for leveling)
One of the best map sustain aspects is Zana's store. Buy all of her maps, then, when you open a map with a Zana mission chosen, her store gets restocked again.
I dunno I have been investing in maps, and here is an example. I got a t16 Geode Map, chiseled it up to 20%, alched it, Vaaled it, and had 4 watchstones not only in Lira Arthain but in the surrounding areas. I a t3 Shore map from that investment. For every 4-5 t11+ map that I invest in I get maybe 1 t11 or higher map. Shore is on the other side of the map! Edit: I used 3 Sacrifice to the map as well.
Heyo! I don't know if I missed you saying you can purchase maps from Zana after completing her missions :) This was really important for me for progression and a lot of new players might not know. Have an amazing week! Great video!
I was just searching for a vid on this. Great timing
One thing as it was refered in the video when u vaal a map u can increase the tier, he didn't mentioned that changed the location of the map, not the zone but the map name and this is important for 2 things first might be a layout that u don't like (indoors), second and most important it hinders your progress cause u might already done that map and if u wanna be fast to completee u should repeat maps if possible. This is why sometimes I don't vaal maps while I am completing the athlas
Huh? You can't complete the atlas without corrupted maps.
OMFG i will subscribe, 1st monster i kill following your tips and i got dropped exalted orb :O
Do you have a channel where you use that keyboard in the background? :)
In my opinion you are the best creator of guides for PoE.
Any suggestions on initial watchstone placements for progressing through your atlas?
middle first, outside second. u have more maps in the inside so u have a higher chance of getting some of em faster.
I'd like to see more time spent on watchstone allocations. Do I stack them all to max as I go? Or spread them out evenly across the zones?
This is covered by "Make sure that you have all tiers available for drops."
Oh ok. So I should at least spread them enough to have all tiers represented. Time to go make some adjustments then. Keep up the good work! Love your stuff :)
@@sambobsam alternatively just buy cheap ivory watchstones to get A8 as fast as possible, then replace with regular watchstones as you can
I have the same issue. I have 16 watchstones and I’m not sure where to put them. In the slots where is says “obtained”? When running T15/16 maps with watchstones I still can’t get influence anymore. The conquerors won’t show up.
@@stefanoslan the game clearly helps you in the quest list - it says for example "search regions with 4 socketed watchstones". Hover over the citadel and if all 4 lines are "obtained" - you're done with it. move your stones elsewhere.
Great presentation !
Any chance you could offer us some explanation about the difference between Awakener level 5 and 8 Sirus and how the conqueror encounters differ between those levels and before ?
Thanks and be well :-)
This was a eye opener. Thank You
I havent done much mapping in conquerors of the atlas. Im still curious about the mechanics of maps dropping when you first socket watchstones. Can any t4 lead to a t5 beach drop, for example? Great video though i will incorporate these tips
To my understanding if you have finished the beach map then yes, it can be dropped from any map that is one tier lower. However, maps that you haven't completed can be only gotten by playing maps that are "next to" them. The absolute main goal when you are mapping is to do bonus objectives. If you are missing a certain map it is also a good idea to just buy those maps from other players. This way you will steadily continue your progress. I have pretty much done all the bonus missions from Atlas this league and when I am mapping with pretty much zero investment (I am just alching and chiseling my maps) I usually get around 2-3 map drops per map.
@@KingOfBlades27 Also remember that you can vendor 3 maps of the same tier and type (eg, t10 Desert) and it will give you back a map of 1 tier higher.
@@tenags0708 YES! This is a great way in the start when the game is dicking around and giving you the same fucking map you have completed already xD
Amazingly informative video. Thank you!
item quant doesnt affect map drops btw
this was cleared out by chris wilson during 1 podcast and was the reason why bisco's collar went down in price/ not popular anymore for map sustain
confirm.. item quant doesnt affect map
Quant from items does not effect map drops, "item quantity" on the actual map does
There is a special place in PoE heaven for creators like you!
item rarity is not important against map drops, but there is data on grinding high rarity vs high quantity and actually i believe high rarity gives great results even tho the usual understanding and consensus is against it.
but still just understanding the core concepts + just playing the game will get you through and give u hundreds and thousands of maps
your great. im playing a lot and your information its like gold, time its important in this game.
Excellent video Big D!
I knew all on this video, but yet I enjoy it all
I'm a new player thx for the vid. Explained alot.
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I just saw this video in 3.12 on a time that I thought contracts are squeezing out the drop rate of maps for me, which I completed 154/154 in delirium and 153/154 in harvest. So I thought maybe I am missing some basics and the previous experiences were just dumb luck.
It turned out that it is me chasing the conquerors too hard that I placed all my 16 watchstone in the centre 4 areas, making me get no more drops between T5 to T13, before I build up enough cache for T14+
Yo don't diss the barrel sextant, the barrels actually have really good drops, especially if it's the worm barrels. Unless you have a build that doesn't really explode the chests by itself, a summoner for example.
great video, just one thing prob i mis that point, but i should only use max tier sextants on red maps right? run yellows and whites without sextants?
Just a heads up you can get special circumstance drops cause I got a tier 13 unique map in my first ever map. It was dropped from a unique strongbox alongside two other tier 3 unique maps. I'm assuming this was just a random loot drop outside of the in-map rules like I could have looted in a heist or just from any other unique strongbox.
This is like learning business - the more you invest, the greater the outcome.
im new to the game so this is a lot of help, btw what happens to the tier1-4 maps that i havent unlock can i still finish it and get the bonus coz i got 8watchstones now and those nodes are now replaced with tier 6-9 maps? ty
Hey sorry, may be a stupid question. But i got tier 3 maps and then i put watchstones in them and that area becomes upgraded, How do i then get the yellow level maps in that area? The watchstones are the really confusing part.
What about target sustaining a t16-15 map?Using the favourite system aint cutting it, any other tips?
Honestly the easiest one to do is promenade since you can orb of Horizon any T16 map into it (there's only 3 different possibilities). But my opinion is if your target farming another map just sell the ones you get that you don't want and buy the ones you do. Probably the simplest way.
What the favorite system does is basically add any map you favorite 10x into the loot pool, so if you favorite a map 3x, you'll have a 31 to "however many other maps of that tier are on the atlas"-chance of getting that map.
Means your best two options imho are, either favorite 2-3 different maps of each tier (t14-t16) 3x each and you'll be able to easily run only maps you've favorited,
or favorite the map you want 3x and remove watchstones from your other regions until there are as little maps of the same tier on the atlas as possible, and then you can build a huge pool of that map as you'll have something like a 31:4 chance (depending on how many maps of that tier you still have on your atlas) of dropping the map you've favorited with each map drop of that tier.
Also, get high map quant, alch every map, reroll them to 60%+ quant without chisel, 75%-80%+ with chisel and vaal them, it's worth it, vaal orbs are super cheap these days, chisels are debatable, very expensive atm but prob still worth.
question: you said you should be able to see the map you wanna do on the atlas to get any drops. does that include the map tier? like if i run a crimson temple map tier 11 but only see a tier 13 on the atlas, would i still yield maps outta it?
what is, when you put 4 different fragments in to the mapgenerator..? It's also starts a map
Great video Ducks.
Outstanding content as always.... Question. Does lowering the awakeing level lower the xp gained running a map??
Thank you for the guide. I have a question, If I need to find a tier 14 map, is it necessary for the tier 14 map to be next to the map that I run or in the same region, or just have a tier 14 map in atlas to be able to drop?
Sweet guide buddy!
My issue is currently, that i got somehow a bunch of Watchstones, yet if i socket them, most my Maps i have are then to low in lvl to either spawn a Quonquorer or drop higher tiers of maps.
I barely after a couple of days managed to get up to 8 Watchstones, and now i'm stuck.
Worst thing in my opinion, that this new system devalues your entire map pool ou accumulated when you have to socket stones to progress.
As a new player, this does cost me double time and ressources to somehow manage, which made me quit the last time around.
One thing you did not cover is the unique watchstones the ones dropped from awakened, are they worth using etc.
Those unique watchstones I see on POE.ninja are a mystery to me. Not sure when or where they come from.
I appreciate this. Thank you!
How strong is the 1% awakener bonus to drop a connected map? I'm at 142 bonus complitions and A6 but find it hard to sustain t14-t16. I try to run every map with sextant chissel and Fragments but get 7 maps per 10 maps invested kind of wierd
This is like learning a foreign language. Good video though. Much appreciated
what do you mean "not lit up"
is that doing the completion bonus AND awakening bonus?
Good video, well edited
That moment when the juiced map is for me a "normal" map. Lul. For me is a juiced map as follows: Delirium Orbs, Awakened sextants with "Beyond, Currency items from rare monsters, Additional Breach/legion and Hunter treasures", with Scarabs like "Additional 3 breach, 3 harbinger, 150/250% more divination cards and more uniques/legion/metamorph. As extra unique watchstones with packsize and sometimes for a t19 map the 3 other ones. For maxmal output I choose nemesis and also Alva for a lot of loot. :D
Its a lot of investment, yeah, but holy moly those maps are awesome
The fact that rarity doesn't help map or currency drops is news to me. Thanks for pointing that out. Guess I better stop buying the "quantity also applies to rarity" maps from Zana...
In start Zana is really valuable because you will get a lot of maps from her that will raise your bonus objective counter a lot.
Especially since Chance orbs aren't that expensive, makes the early maps even better to buy
You didn't say where you get those round map things if you use the ones you have. I only have one tier 1 map completed.
i always end up with 2-4 zones with red maps and still no T1-5 maps dropping in the other Zones when i run the lower tiers ( i havent socketed watchstones in those regions )
I can see the map on the atlas and i am doing the maps directly connected to it and YET i ran 8 with 20 quality and alchemy but the drops are either tier 1 or from a completely diffirent far region. What am i missing here? I am getting t1 drops from a t5 map ffs this is frustrating.
i can litteraly sustain my t 14-16 with awakener lvl 5 about 90/154 and 30/154
and i rarely do more than chisle-alch (and vaal for bonus)
Soo im not making that much currency but map sustain is almost never a problem with the new atlas
Do you have a discord i can ask you about this? I think I’m just a dumb person. Can’t figure out this map stuff....
Great video , love this game