Bless you for the Haydn Crusade. These are enlightening, informative, and immensely enjoyable posts -- and are an important addition to the literature on the subject -- as reference they will live on and on for those interested discovering Haydn.
I share your enthusiasm for this symphony. Truly a landmark, as was no. 34 with its massive, tragic first movement. But you are right about the finale to no. 35; definitely a breakthrough, anticipating the later Haydn with its combination of high humor, surprises that nevertheless fit perfectly within the overall scheme,, and continuous development. This symphony is often considered a "Sturm und Drang" work, at least it's often present in recorded surveys of those symphonies (e.g., Salomons, Pinnock). I think I can see why. It's not a moody work, but it is full of nervous energy. As always, I am indebted to you for your grand tour of this amazing symphonic corpus. Looking forward to your treatment of no. 39--another breakthrough.
I am really starting to love this series. Wow. In fact i have gone back to the beginning and currently at 10, but listened to this one. Loving this exploration. These videos should be watched by all of us 11k and others also!! Btw. Congrats on 11k young sir!!
I just bought the Brilliant Classics box with A. Fischer doing the complete Haydn symphonies. I'm binge listening. So much good stuff in it. It's just inspiring to think I know maybe 25 of these pieces well, and I'm only a quarter of the way there...
Would you consider doing a video on Haydn’s (and Beethoven’s!) absolutely delightful folksong arrangements? I just discovered them recently and am shocked that they aren’t better known compared to the rest of both composers’ outputs.
Thank you, David, for another excellent, insightful analysis of a splendid Haydn symphony! As an alternative to the fine performance you used, this work is also the latest offering on the Haydn2032 UA-cam channel. As a small supplement to your detailed musicological observations, here are two of my own. First, Haydn would on rare occasion reuse the “beginning-is-the-same-as-the-end” technique of this symphony’s final movement in later works, albeit with a different twist in each one. For example, the second movement of Symphony No. 57 in D Major (1774) opens and closes with a soft, pizzicato rendering of the inverse of the 3 loud notes that begin and end Symphony No. 35’s fourth movement. And the still later String Quartet Opus 33, No. 5 in G Major (1781) has a four-note motto that also initiates and finishes its first movement. Second, as H.C. Robbins Landon points out (“Haydn: Chronicle and Works” Vol. 2), there is a section in No. 35’s second movement (bars 10 and following) that is eerily reminiscent of the refrain from the traditional Christmas carol, “Adeste, Fidelis” (“O Come, All Ye Faithful”)-specifically, the melody associated with the words “Venite, adoremus” (“O come, let us adore Him”). That resemblance between the song and the symphony must surely be coincidental, but the similarity is striking and, considering the current time of year, appropriately seasonal.
I’ve always loved this particular symphony since I was a schoolkid when I happened to catch David Atherton beginning a BBCSO concert with it. I always found it fresh, vivid, athletically lean yet sexy, even by Haydn’s high standards. It is indeed a special piece! Italianate, even ‘Mozartian’ in its cantabile second subject? And with what resource does Haydn utilise his tiny orchestra!
i have all haydn sinfonies under Dorati on LP and CD for me the" goldstandard",the naxos recording here is for me in german:langweilig and i want only hear the sinfonie no. 35 with Dorati.,another sinfonie i love was sinfonie no.12 but as a result love all.-Every morning a sinfonie from haydn with coffee a good book,i read in the moment Denis Diderot(Rameaus Neffe) and the live was light and happy and you forget all your problems now the war and the other problesm here in germany and europe.
Bless you for the Haydn Crusade. These are enlightening, informative, and immensely enjoyable posts -- and are an important addition to the literature on the subject -- as reference they will live on and on for those interested discovering Haydn.
I share your enthusiasm for this symphony. Truly a landmark, as was no. 34 with its massive, tragic first movement. But you are right about the finale to no. 35; definitely a breakthrough, anticipating the later Haydn with its combination of high humor, surprises that nevertheless fit perfectly within the overall scheme,, and continuous development. This symphony is often considered a "Sturm und Drang" work, at least it's often present in recorded surveys of those symphonies (e.g., Salomons, Pinnock). I think I can see why. It's not a moody work, but it is full of nervous energy. As always, I am indebted to you for your grand tour of this amazing symphonic corpus. Looking forward to your treatment of no. 39--another breakthrough.
The whole simphony but especially the last movement is incredibly ear-catching.
Superb! Thanks Dave.
I am really starting to love this series. Wow. In fact i have gone back to the beginning and currently at 10, but listened to this one. Loving this exploration. These videos should be watched by all of us 11k and others also!! Btw. Congrats on 11k young sir!!
Thank you for an enlightening talk on my favorite Haydn symphony, for the past few moths at least! And thank you for pronouncing ‘integral’ correctly.
I did?
I just bought the Brilliant Classics box with A. Fischer doing the complete Haydn symphonies. I'm binge listening. So much good stuff in it. It's just inspiring to think I know maybe 25 of these pieces well, and I'm only a quarter of the way there...
Would you consider doing a video on Haydn’s (and Beethoven’s!) absolutely delightful folksong arrangements? I just discovered them recently and am shocked that they aren’t better known compared to the rest of both composers’ outputs.
They are delightful. Perhaps I can do something--eventually!
Great talk Dave, and congratulations on 11k subscribers!
Thank you kindly!
Thank you, David, for another excellent, insightful analysis of a splendid Haydn symphony! As an alternative to the fine performance you used, this work is also the latest offering on the Haydn2032 UA-cam channel.
As a small supplement to your detailed musicological observations, here are two of my own. First, Haydn would on rare occasion reuse the “beginning-is-the-same-as-the-end” technique of this symphony’s final movement in later works, albeit with a different twist in each one. For example, the second movement of Symphony No. 57 in D Major (1774) opens and closes with a soft, pizzicato rendering of the inverse of the 3 loud notes that begin and end Symphony No. 35’s fourth movement. And the still later String Quartet Opus 33, No. 5 in G Major (1781) has a four-note motto that also initiates and finishes its first movement.
Second, as H.C. Robbins Landon points out (“Haydn: Chronicle and Works” Vol. 2), there is a section in No. 35’s second movement (bars 10 and following) that is eerily reminiscent of the refrain from the traditional Christmas carol, “Adeste, Fidelis” (“O Come, All Ye Faithful”)-specifically, the melody associated with the words “Venite, adoremus” (“O come, let us adore Him”). That resemblance between the song and the symphony must surely be coincidental, but the similarity is striking and, considering the current time of year, appropriately seasonal.
I’ve always loved this particular symphony since I was a schoolkid when I happened to catch David Atherton beginning a BBCSO concert with it. I always found it fresh, vivid, athletically lean yet sexy, even by Haydn’s high standards. It is indeed a special piece! Italianate, even ‘Mozartian’ in its cantabile second subject? And with what resource does Haydn utilise his tiny orchestra!
Very well said!
Great, now I see why i liked haydn better over mozart as a symphoniest.
i have all haydn sinfonies under Dorati on LP and CD for me the" goldstandard",the naxos recording here is for me in german:langweilig and i want only hear the sinfonie no. 35 with Dorati.,another sinfonie i love was sinfonie no.12 but as a result love all.-Every morning a sinfonie from haydn with coffee a good book,i read in the moment Denis Diderot(Rameaus Neffe) and the live was light and happy and you forget all your problems now the war and the other problesm here in germany and europe.