2007-2012 Ford Mondeo 2 0 TDI fuel filter change
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- This is my first attempt to change a fuel filter on my Mk4 2008 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDI. You will need to purchase a diesel hand pump (about £7) and some clear plastic pipe to prime the fuel lines after replacing the filter. It's a little more difficult than doing a Mk3 where if you fill the new filter with fuel the engine will start first time.
Hi Nigel, great video. One thing for future ford fuel filter changes is NEVER rev the engine. Doing so uses fuel in the lines and pump before it has time to bleed up from the tank. Theres a good chance the system will self prime if you dont rev on starting. Thats how we did it any way. But great video. Many thanks :)
this guy is spot on reminds me of one of our old techs i work with.
Your video helped me last time, it's time again and I found your vidoe again! Remember now that I last time used the pump I used to drain engine oil with, that worked fine, maybe a tip from me. Thanks for your help.
Great video. Good to see some of the pitfalls and solutions. Many thanks.
Great video, helped prepare me for the job. The hand pump seemed a bit tricky so I opted for a vacuum cleaner hose attached to a jam jar with a tyre valve connection to the schrader valve near the fuel pump on my 140bhp diesel (details in other posts). The clear pipe in the fuel circuit to the valve shows if any air is left. Also decided not to try to drain the filter housing as others say it just syphons straight out of the fuel tank. Just split the filter housing and take care to catch spillage in a washing bowl. The vacuum cleaner was fast and efficient and I pulled about half a litre through the into the jam jar. Even so, there was a heart stopping moment when the car seemed to refuse to start. Took a bit of cranking but got there eventually.
+bill wintrip that's what I did
Tried this method today Nigel and it worked a treat. I found it helpful to leave the vacuum pump connected after priming in case more was needed (which it was), just have a fair sized bucket to catch the return line fuel when the engine is running as quite a bit of fuel comes through.
Great stuff Nigel, thank you very much for your tutorial!! I have read every possible instruction available online but only your video made me brave enough to actually do it. Along with Ben Clarkson's tip on priming the system (disconnecting return pipe with blue clip and priming the filter directly) worked a treat. Thank you both!
Hi Nigel really found your video useful. When I did this job recently, I didn't bother with the drain plug, it's just something else that can break or leak. I just slightly loosened the filter housing, held a bucket up right underneath the filter and drained it this way. You are right about bleeding the system, if you don't bleed the system it will run for about 10 seconds and then die! I used a fluid extractor to pull diesel from the tank. I broke into the return line at a green clip under the bonnet near the offside wing. A few pumps and it will pull diesel from the tank.CAUTION, be careful with this clip it is easily broken. To disconnect the green return line clip, carefully prise up the centre part of the clip, it does not fully remove. Then PUSH down on the outside part of the clip, and the line should release easily, without any problem. Keep up the good work, I really enjoyed your video on Forscan.
Thanks for your tips got to change my filter tomorrow will let you know how I get on. Sorted done it thanks
Also corresponds to Mk4 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI. (most common european denomination, different in UK and probably Ireland)
Thanks a lot for this very clear video.
Thanks for the video....we have been having major problems with our Mondeo...have followed your video today our car is know running beautifully!
What problems did you had?
Yeah, it would be nice to know the problems you had.
Thank you so much Nigel, i just changed diesel filter(And other services) on my mondeo with your help! :-)
Thanks for this video. I was able to do it myself and follow your tips. I had no fuel spillage problems though :)
Thanks for the comments.This was the end of a major service. I'd already changed the other filters, including the pollen which is also tricky, and brake pads. I'd been saving doing the fuel filter as I admit it worried me the most and I couldn't find a UA-cam to help. There's nothing worse when you can't start your car after messing about.
Brilliant video Nigel. Your videos have given me a lot of confidence in working on my Mk4.
Pete Saxton . Thanks I really appreciate your comment.
Thanks for the video. Doing my own fuel filter change today, just ordered the priming pump to help make easier.
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Thank you this helped me a lot. Also I waited and drained as much as I could out the fuel filter and still got covered….🤷♂️
You need to slightly open the housing to let air in and then drain. Well that’s two of us got covered in diesel 😂.
many thanks from turkey.after changing filter i cant make work my car cuz of made some air on fuel system.i operating my car while air in tube removed and used brake spray to operate until fuel comes to engine.thanks for the tip
Great video really enjoyed it, loved your very calm attitude to the job. Well done.
Thanks for the video Nigel. I was always worried about doing this myself and now I've seen this I reckon I could manage it.
Good Video Nigel, it will help a lot of people without them having to find out the hard way. Why on earth do they have to make things so hard? It was a piece of cake on the MK3 and could be done in 10 minutes!
Thank you for your video very helpful.
Thank for this tutorial. Worked perfectly. 👍
Very helpful ...many thanks for taking the time to make the video, good tips and easy understand. Cheers.
Kev
…on my mondeo 2007 ever worked the first method of turning to 1 position 7 times for 20 seconds. Before that I had black days😂 bleeding the system!
This is brilliant. Saved me another few hundred quid.
Perfekte Erklärung hat super funktioniert bei meinem Ford Mondeo :)
The method of turning the ignition on and off is only effective if there is a pump in the fuel tank, on the other hand for future reference I find it easier just to disconnect the fuel line from the filter to the engine/injector pump and just pump fuel through with the diesel filter primer until it comes out the primer then connect the fuel line and do a quick start rather than pumping it through the return. There will still be fuel in the rail and around that area but if there was any air there it would bleed through the injectors while cranking anyway.
Thanks for posting this Nigel , very helpful indeed
Just a couple of things. First of all turning the ignition on and off will not work on the partucular engine you were working on. That only works on vehicles fitted with an electric fuel pump. Also there is a much easier way to bleed the system. On the right hand side of the engine as you look at it, there is a valve exactly the same as a car tyre valve on the fuel line. Simply connect a syringe type pump to the this valve and draw the fuel up from the tank until no air bubbles can be seen. The car will start first turn of the key.
+knebworth1986 Hi Knebworth1986....silly question maybe, but what prevents the whole tank emptying when the filter is removed? Thanks
knebworth1986 hello, cand u pls add a photo?
Thanks for the advice. A photo of it's location would be good.
Sorry I no longer have the car so can't photograph it. If you remove the plastic cover over the top of the engine. You should be able to trace the fuel lines which go across the front of the engine and then up the right hand side as you look at it. One of the lines has the valve on it with a dust cap just the same as a car tyre valve. The lines are easily seen. They are close to the top of the engine next to the high pressure fuel pump
Joe, as soon as the seal is broken on the fuel filter housing, the suction on the fuel in the tank is lost and it will remain in the tank. It will not drain away with gravity because the fuel pick up is above the level of the fuel in the tank. Same principal as syphoning
nice video thanks .. done as you did . worked a treat
Good video , the joys of home maintenance . LOL .
Thank you :-D from mulde (denmark) .. now i will try :-)
Thanks very informative, keep up the good work,
I've used a cheap hand vacuum pump brake bleeder, works well, seems easier than the bulb pump
Can you drop a link to what you use?
@@NigelEaland
Sorry for not replying sooner, I bought it off ebay, typed in vacuum brake bleeder kit, I bought in an orange plastic box, only around $22aud, there's multiple fittings to get an air tight seal,
Check the flow direction of the hand pump and hold it vertically. It sucks the air out. When it goes tight then stop, reconnect the pipes and start the car.
Very helpful. For me worked.
What can I say.. the hand pump was not necessary. Plus if you prime it a bit more you'll find that the very first time you started the engine it will not stall
brilliant video 😎
all you need to do is to start the engine and spray short bursts of carburettor or brake cleaner in the air intake until the car bleeds it'sself,
I do like the ones that you can fill with diesel or injector cleaner, why would they put a filter under the car😱🤣
I used a Sealey oil syringe and a tyre valve connector. Both new, so as not to cause any fuel contamination
Thank you Nigel.
ive chewed on with other methods but never that one, i went to the air valve next to the pump with a hand pump like that, i'll try this method next time, cheers
Thanks for the comment. I did try a Ford Focus timing belt once. It's a very tricky procedure as the bottom pulley is not locked to the crankshaft. You need special tools to lock the overhead cam shafts and the pistons at the correct timing before torque tightening the bottom pulley bolt. In short I don't want to do another one again.
practice makes perfect
Fantastic.
Will you ever be doing the timing belt on your Mondeo? Please do us a tutorial if you do - your vids are practical and easy to follow and my timing belt and water pump etc are soon due! Many thanks.
very good and informative video, i wonder why ford put the fuel filter near the fuel tank and not under the hood?
What you could try. Before you touch the fuel filter. Remove the fuse for the fuel pump, start the engine and burn off what fuel is left in the pipes ,which will be under pressure. Will save you getting soaked with diesel.
and then it will be even harder to bleed!
+Arron Somerville.... Considering he has just emptied the pipes and covered in Diesel. Tell me how it would be even harder to bleed.?
not an electric pump! its primed only when the engine turns, so really cranking it over and over again will eventually fire it if you loosen the nuts on the injectors so the air can escape. but why overload the starter, battery and the cars electrics?
@@martinroberts3977 that will just suck more air in and never start, I've used the vacuum pump method several times and it works but you have to make sure you've drawn all of the air through before you crank the engine
@@superseven220 so you've done it my method and it worked. Well you know for next time. FYI I've never had a diesel car not start after changing the fuel filter using my method.
The video was a bit lame.
Thanks
great video 10x man :)
to the right of the engine there is a schrader valve, you're supposed to connect a pipe to that and it bleeds the whole system
a easier way to bleed is to take the blue connector off at the fuel filter housing and using your hand pump bleed the filter from the spout coming from the housing
Which one is the blue? Sorry I have just seen red and white clips on the video.
Good video. ..thanks ...
Doing my service now as bought car and its been sat over a year and an a half. When in higher gears says engine malfunction
Thanks, good one
Thanks Mate!
thanks for vid seems dead straight forward happy to do mine now as its not as smooth running and suspect it may be mucked up, first port of call i think?
good video when will you being doing a oil service?
Nigel, what if you filled the cap with diesel or diesel additive before replacing it? This would minimize the air in the system and then with contact on/off a several times the engine would not stall?
what size pipe is it that you use on the priming pump - is it a 10mm outside diameter/8mm inside diameter? Great video - going to have a go at this myself.
Thanks for doing this video. Can I please ask the diameter of the green pipe you used for draining and attaching to the pump. Many thanks.
Hi Gary. The internal diameter is 8mm.
es un enlace muy bueno y se ve claro el proceso
Very helpfull.
Thanks :-)
I need advice I will not start my car and the diesel pump, here given a new one. and does not start
help me please
ford galaxy 2009 tdci
I did this on a mondeo estate (2011) plate. Had to disconnect the feed and return fuel pipes as the thing kept filling when draining.
well in theory if it has an electric fuel pump the first method should work. The electric pump starts pumping fuel and should fill the filter once you turn on the key a couple of times. Another method which I used when changing the fuel filter on a diesel passat was to spray a bit of deodorant into the admission.. that was enough to get the engine running .
If you do that you run the risk of blowing the needle in the air flow mass sensor and air box
my fuel filter is not behind the tank. we're else could it be pls
The mk3 is in the engine compartment, left side at the back. Mk4 is just in front of the fuel tank under the car. Try and identify the fuel lines at the engine and follow them back.
Hi all,
I am having serious issues starting the vehicle 09 ford mondeo diesel, when its cold or left for hours it takes atleast ten mins to start.
Glow plugs changed already one was bad. Battery replaced. Still no luck.. please advise if anyone had the same issue.
Thanks
@@ahsanwaris1408 poor starting can be caused by a number of problems. I’ve made two videos when I had the same problem and found a number of issues. Check them out:
Poor starting
ua-cam.com/video/V0op-AqJcHo/v-deo.htmlsi=Vg9YnxA2ftEFrd4h
Starter motor
ua-cam.com/video/16rgA_bs0LU/v-deo.htmlsi=VKWa-FDe7Gu3ZTp0
Ok great, Thanks
@@ahsanwaris1408 a common problem is the starter motor failing and drawing lots of current. The engine fails to turn over fast enough to start. It’s worse when cold.
Hi @@NigelEaland
Where abt are you located at?
Like it.
Does anyone know the socket size needed for the fuel filter housing
Re the first method to prime the fuel lines - it should work if you fill the cap with clean diesel before you screw it back on
I did fill the cap as you can see in the video. Unfortunately the body of the filter housing has enough air to cause a problem. So I used the suction method to clear the air.
On a mk3 the diesel filter is in the engine compartment. When I changed one I filled it with fuel and the engine started and didn’t need priming.
@@NigelEaland Sorry, missed that bit - it could be (I stand corrected) that the one you have doesn't have electric diesel pump? Hence the first method didn't work?
robertgral The Mondeo does not have a diesel pump pushing from the fuel tank end. If it did then it would prime itself. The fuel pump in the engine effectively sucks the fuel from the tank. If there is a lot of air in the line it locks and you need to bleed the line. Thanks for your comments and interest.
Hi Nigel
Great video.I have an 11 plate mondeo tdci which has been in the garage for weeks.At first he told me it was the fuel pump spring which they charged £840.The second day I got it back the same thing happened again,so i took it back but they are now telling me that it's the fuel pump in the tank that needs replacing and the fuel lines,but speaking to other people regarding this issue who tell me that model does not have a fuel pump in the tank do you know if this is true also I'm wondering if it can be something as simple as the fuel filter.It starts without any issues but when I'm accelerating esp in low gears and uphill the car kind of pulls back and if I continue accelerating it cuts out.I am on the verge of scrapping this car as I just cant seem to get to the bottom of it and I am not forking out hundreds of pounds for nothing.Any info greatly appreciated mate.
Hi Matt. I can’t say for sure but on my 2008 there is no fuel pump in the tank. It works by sucking the fuel and the pump is on the engine. If there are any fuel line leaks between the fuel tank and the engine air bubbles get in to the fuel or if the fuel filter is blocked will result in fuel starvation. You can see the air bubbles through the plastic fuel line if they are there. See my video for poor starting as it might help you diagnose. Good luck.
Also get an OBD2 interface and download Forscan and get the car to tell you what is wrong. See my videos.
@@NigelEaland thanks for the info Nigel and I will get myself an OBD2 interface..much appreciated
@@mattdodson5352 get one with the switch fitted so you can get across the three CAN busses. Something like this www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075WVKL9S/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_XX15PQVTDPSMVBV6FXG2
Hello there, currently servicing my 08 (57 reg) Mondeo 2.0 tdci, iv been on for 45 mins with the hand pump now and not a drop of fuel is coming through, how long did it take you to start drawing the fuel through?
Same here, how could you start the engine finally?
Any solution? Same problem@@tszchungchui2827
I've added a full service video at ua-cam.com/video/KWDCOp3bO8o/v-deo.html
Hi Nigel could you do an video on ford galaxy how to replace starter motor or where is the ford galaxy starter motor located
I have a Mondeo not a Galaxy. Have a look at my video of replacing the Mondeo’s starter motor. Also look at this link workshop-manuals.com/ford/galaxy_2000.75_04.2000-02.2006/mechanical_repairs/3_powertrain/303_engine/303-06_starting_system/description_and_operation/diagnosis_and_testing/removal_and_installation/starter_motor_2.0l-2.3l/
Hi, when you finisco to suck out the diesel, do you leave the pump or you riconnected the fuel line?
Reconnect the fuel line.
Hi Nigel, i have a 2007 Ford Mondeo TDCi MA, do you know how to release the boot manually. My one is stuck, and when i hit the breaks or open the park lights it makes a drilling noise from the boot. (rataratarata). Do you have any advice? Thanks
ive jus got got poor starting in the morning mainley and leaving the car off about few hours once car on runs fine
I would say it's not the filter. Sounds more like a glow plug problem. Search UA-cam for glow plug test.
Lo spurgo è obbligatorio ogni volta che si cambia il filtro???
Grazie
Sì, devi sanguinare la linea. La pompa del carburante aspira il diesel al motore. Se c'è aria, perde aspirazione e il gasolio non arriva. Google translate è mio amico. Grazie per la visione.
What size is the filter housing nut?
Did you have to relieve the pressure in the fuel lines first?
Open the filter bleed valve then open the housing just enough to let air in.
Hi Nigel,
I've got the galaxy 2009, but seems to be the same engine (2.0 TDCi). Do you know the location fo the turbo on this? I've got the error code which says the actuator flap got stuck in the closed position (that's why no boost), and wanted to clean this, but not sure about the location of the turbo (suspect it's in the back of the engine? - accessible from the engine bay?
Many thanks!
It’s at the back of the engine along with the exhaust manifold. Not easy to get to. Do a UA-cam search, there are videos.
This mondeo using petrol or diesel?isnt this mondeo tdci enjin using diesel?
It’s diesel.
Lucky it wasn't a full tank
sorry to pull this one up after so long, I'm only new to the mk4
what if you put clean diesel in from where you connected your hand pump instead of sucking?
Doesn't work because there's air in line. Though it might work to open bleed screw from filter and then fill lines from that direction. It _might_ be enough, but would takes to even do properly
doesn't method 1 damages the diesel pump
No. Some work on electric fuel pump which the power from the car fills the system up electrically rather than manually
hi ive got ford mondeo titanium 2009 2.0 tdci for some reason overnight when car is off in the morning it takes long to start up now some o e told me i need to change my fuel pump can u advise me 8f that is correct plz thanks
Maybe look at replacing the glow plugs as 1 or 4 may not be heating up properly
probably a stupid question from a total mechanic novice but does this also equate to my ford focus cc3 2.0 tdci? thanks.
+Bluejeanmusic1984
I don't know. Best to check with Ford.
The Mondeos have either a filter in the engine bay or at the back by the fuel tank. If in the engine bay then you can fill the new one with diesel and swap it in. If it is at the back then you will need to bleed the lines. I think your car has a diesel particle filter which is different again.
What do you mean by priming the pipes with Diesel? Did you pour diesel down the return line where you connected the hose for the primer bulb?
Priming the pipe means to draw the diesel through from the tank and to get rid of the air in the line. You suck it through using the hand pump.
@@NigelEaland Yes I understand, but at the end of the video when you said priming the pipes with diesel helped to suck the air out, did you pour fresh diesel down into the return line? Thanks. My Mk4 is due it's filter changed and I'm a little worried about not being able to start it.
@@BlakeCDS ah I understand. I think I didn’t explain myself well. No I did not pour diesel up the return pipe. What I did was to put diesel into the bowl and then put the hand pump outlet into it to stop any air returning as I pumped. My impression is that you suck mainly air but the feed pipe draws the diesel. Eventually my hand pump was crushed by the vacuum it created. I then reconnected the return pipe and the car started and ran.
@@NigelEaland okay I get you, thanks for the replies. My plan is to brim the tank beforehand, and put diesel in the filter bowl to help things along as much as possible.
Enjoy your videos, looking forward to seeing more of the MX5 👍
@@BlakeCDS good call. I had a tank full as well. The Mazda mx5 really does not go wrong. The Mondeo has had a few problems but I love them both. One is for fun and the other is a workhorse. Good luck with the filter. It’s pretty straight forward and even if the engine stalls it will be clearing the air out the lines. Repeat the process and all will be good. Make sure the bleed valve on the filter is fully closed and the filter housing tight with no air leaks before you start pumping.
is not tdi but yes tdci.
Should just give it load easy start
What’s size the tube for the pomp?
8mm internal diameter
dont rev the engine and it will work with the key
What’s size tube pump?
I pretty sure I bought a laser diesel hand pump and I think the pipe was 8mm. Pop off the return connection as shown in the video and measure it. You can buy the pump on Ebay or Amazon. www.lasertools.co.uk/product/3813
Pete Gillan. so garages can rob you.
mate you are going to crack the oli filter house using a pipe wrench, please use a 36 mm socket
:D
Wrong, wrong and wrong...First of all This model doesn't have an electric pump that pulls fuel. 2nd you should connect the hand pump, from the other pipe! which comes from the fuel filter. The one that you used is from return, this means you are trying to pull fuel from the injection pump, totally wrong, not impposible but this is a hard thing to do. How many hours did you try to pull out fuel from the return pipe? Next time try the other pipe, you will see how fast you will fill the filter again...
Thanks for your comment. As I said in the video it was my first attempt and I was testing out the methods I had read about on the internet. Using the return certainly works and so is not wrong and only required a few minutes of pumping to clear the air all the way to the pump. There have been a few alternative methods suggested in previous comments and I’ll try yours next time.
fuel filter i mean
Fuel starvation symptoms are poor starting, rough idling, poor acceleration and poor fuel economy. Change the filter. If you don't have all or some of these symptoms then another cause for poor starting from cold is glow plug failure.
y u mean TDCI
Ford and tdi??.... TDCi and that's a hell of a difference!