Man not only do you do these cheap chinese parts, which non of the big channels do, you do up your videos in such high quality and detail into these parts, looking at the construction etc. Really a one of a kind. Eveyone always needs to save a buck or two in this expensive hobby. You are really doing everyone a giant service thanks man!
1st let me congratulate you for the evolution of the channel, Luke.. being here since the 1st build it's so awesome to see not only the quality raising, but your knowledge and detail analysis of the components, construction, etc.. thanks for the dedication and content!!
The plastic "tags" (actually called "flash") the rougher surface (and maybe even the colour saturation) is likely less to do with the actual moulds or materials and more to do with skipping the finishing steps. Usually on more high end plastics someone would manually trim off the flash with razor and very quickly hit the the parts with a blowtorch (referred to as flashing), the heat temporarily melts the surface smoothing things out and burns off any white mould release powder (talc) imbedded in the surface which can mute the colour. You could do this yourself and see if it brings the knockoffs more into line aesthetically with the originals.
Chris, fantastic comment, dropping some KNOWLEDGE on me! Interesting though, from what you have said, they will have skipped several finishing steps, so it will definitely have bough the cost of manufacture down!
@@TraceVelo This makes me wonder if Costelo was manufacturing the pedal bodies (in China) all along for assembly in France, where they used better quality bearings, etc. Anyway, thanks Luke. (Maybe the "Made in France" logo was stretching the truth?)
Hi bought a costelo road bike 2 years ago, full carbon, frame/forks, 80 and 60 mm deep carbon wheels, 11 speed ultegra di2 disc brake, integrated stem/bars, really great bike, looks exactly like the cannon aeroroad bike....
I always watch Trace Velo videos ALL the way through to make sure he gets that sweet "watch time" for the analytics/algorithm. Love your stuff man, you're doing everyone a great service!
That's incredible you even bought original ones to compare with knock offs. I'm using original xpresso 2 from last summer and I love them. I want to upgrade (???) with knock offs, your review helped me. What I found, All Time pedals (xpresso and even Xpro) have these white bushings instead of needle bearings, except some older higher end models like yours xpresso 12.
Tracevelo and Spindatt are my fav channels for cycling tech/setup these days. Some big channels are feeling like they just push the most expensive gear blindly.
Thanks for the in-depth comparison! I've bought a couple of XPresso 12s over the past decade, and a few of the lower-tier XPressos too. They are fantastic pedals - second to none in looks (sorry LOOK), weight, quality, and ergonomics. I just checked my oldest ones (~2013) - they do not have the groove in the spindle, but an etched L/R marking, like the Costelo ones. Newer ones have the groove. The original TIMEs also used nylon bushings for a long time. They last, but definitely have more play than a proper needle bearing. Swapping the bushing for a bearing is a popular mod. Newer XPro ones have bearings, anecdotally the Mavic branded ones that TIME manufactured also used bearings, but I have no first hand experience with those. The originals could regularly be had for around 150 USD (from reputable distributors, not aliexpress/ebay knockoffs), so the Costelo ones aren't that great of a deal. I'm sad they have been discontinued. BTW, the TIME pedal brand is owned by SRAM now. Even post-acquisition, their customer service is flawless. They just sent me replacements for some worn parts free of charge.
OK thanks for the comment bloop! Interesting that they bought in the groove post 2013... maybe the pedals I've seen are legit. It's can be SO difficult to tell with these Chinese products. You are right about SRAM though, their returns policy is pretty stellar!
Are you sure about that Mavic point? Here another Time user, that bought a Mavic pair on 2015 aprox and after about 15k kms they wore out that bushing. Mavic gave me my money back. They where the previous than top of the range model (carbon body without titanium axle) I still use Time Xpresso 10 that I've bought for replacement of those Mavic pedals
Really looking forward to see you building up that sweet gravel bike! I think its actually quite interesting, how cheaply one can build up a gravel bike from lets say a trekking frame + a rigid carbon fork (carboncycles for example) and some used STI levers (ST-RS405 or ST-RS505 can be real good deals sometimes). It requires a bit of tinkering with the compatibilities, but i learned a lot and managed to build up some very nice and cheap bikes for me and my friends. greetings from germany
Yeah if you shop around, and are willing tinker around with some second hand parts, you can def do it on the cheap. But yeah im really excited to see how the gravel bike turns out... Especially with the braking setup i've chosen, its gonna be an interesting build that's for sure!
A few years ago I had a pair of genuine Time Xpresso pedals purchased from Merlin cycles. When I took them apart to service them one pedal had needle roller bearing, the other pedal had a bushing, just like the one in your Costello knock off. I replaced the bushing with a needle roller bearing.
I bought a Costelo Supersonic road bike back in 2019. I think this predates Trifox, but it's exactly the same Trifox frame that has been reviewed by several UA-cam bike reviewers. It was utterly fantastic; light and rigid, an excellent machine to cover the miles. It had a few little bits that weren't perfect, but nothing that would hinder the everyday user.
Before the current BMC copy that you show in the video they had a Speedmachine model that I have always wanted but never obtained. Instead I have been buying 2nd hand western frames and building those up.
UPDATE: The fakes are good, really, really good (at least mine are,) at mimicking the real deal. Just pulled them apart after 6-years for the first time. And to my surprise... Just checked my Xpresso 12 pedals. Had them since 2017. No groove on the left pedal. But do have the left hand (*indicated*) thread on the drive side pedal. Regards Jordan
@@TraceVelo UPDATE: After 6 years I finally decided to pull my Xpresso 12's apart, partly because of this video (curiosity) and the left pedal was making a noise (thought it was the cleat, but replaced that and still the noise. Turns out. After 6 years and countless kilometres (easily +30,000kms, possibly nearer 40,000,) my pedals are indeed fakes. I should also note that I regularly swap them between bikes and have had no issues wit the Ti axle thread,; looks as good today as it did 6-years ago. While the axle screw has indications for different threads, both have a standard Right-Hand thread. Inside were the metal shielded 6801 bearings and nylon sleeve. I've replaced the bearings with NTN 6801LU double contact rubber seal bearings and re-greased with my favourite bentonite clay high temp bearings grease. Obviously they were spotless before re-assembly. What's wild is just how good the fakes are... (or at least mine have been.) I always use OEM Time cleats from my local bike shop. I've even had them special order in new strike plates on a couple of occasions as they've worn out. All fit and work perfectly. While its 6 years ago now (paypal receipt dates Feb-17, 2017,) I kind of recall that the packaging was excellent and gave no indication that they were fakes, had a manual and all. Even though they are fake :(, they have performed flawlessly for 6 years. No slop in the bearing, not play in the sleeve. And the bearing lasted 6-years!!! (Also live in Australia and very rarely ride in the wet.) Thanks for the excellent video. Learnt alot. At least I know my Time VXRS frame is genuine, and while the pedals are knock-off's, they sure don't look like it. Jordan
OK nice, well then maybe my costelo set will last after all... I just assumed the nylon bearing would only last a few hundred kilometres, but clearly you can get some decent mileage out of these pedals. It probably helps that you are in OZ, so get some nice dry sunny weather, but regardless, 30,000km plus is freaking impressive. Thanks for the update dude!!!!
I recall that Joe of China Cycling interviewed Mr Costelo at the China Bike Show. Apparently the real deal & a major player. I guess if its good enough for his team to use...however bike teams always throw away & replace stuff as it wears out doesn't apply to the home user though. Elvis has left the building 🤣 Oh another great video & looking forward to the next one already.
You're correct, I bought a pair and the axle that holds the tension spring cracked and broke. When it did, I noticed wear in several other parts of that pedal most of which you mentioned in your video. It would just be a matter of time till it failed in other areas if that spring axle didn't fail first. Lasted me less than 2 months of regular riding.
You're welcome, glad it helped. On that note though, those costello pedals are still going strong with minimal maintenance... must have done 1000's miles on them by this point, I'm pretty impressed tbh. Might be worth a followup
I've been using three different generations of Time pedals - currently I'm on the Xpro 12 pedals. I can vouch for the longevity of the axle design. It's been unchanged for ages. None of them ever failed on me. They do develop a tiny bit of axial play but that's it. The Xpresso were actually the best value for money ever. Too bad they're discontinued. The open design means that you can stomp on the wrong side of the pedal and break the carbon spring. Happened to me once. It's very unlikely. However, I do think that the closed bottom on the Xpro series is an improvement for that reason. Of course they say it's more aero as well ;).
I used to ride TIME pedals and they were easy in/out. the White plastic is probably Durlon (harder nylon) and is used in several pedals including Crank Brothers platform pedals. The RS bearings are cheep and I would replace the shielded ones as (in your video) your pedal starts moving side to side. Durlon is cheaper but probably not as bad as you would think. But please replace the shielded bearings before a catastrophic failure. You can get the bearing number off of the shielded bearing or the RS one in the OG Time pedal. Thanks for the reviews and always entertaining! Completely unrelated and a definite blast from the past about the RLX Carbon Bottle cages... not recommended on seat tube on my gravel bike, The force of a hard knock was just too much for the tab at the bottom, no problems on my road bike though.
Thanks Dirk! Yeah I think the shielded bearings def need to be replaced! I very got the bearing size, and they are only a few quid, so def worth doing!!!
i have no experience with Time Pedals but my late friend Rolf Rost had these. Rolf was mechanic of the Swiss National Team when Wolfram Lindner was national trainer. I had problems with SPD pedals and Rolf fixed it - he told me that these problems are frequent except for Time Pedals after watching Hambini I think Time is a brand that is underestimated they are quality nerds
Looking forward to the gravel bike build! Been looking to get some upgrades for mine so would be great to see where I can cut some costs 😉. If you live around Oxford you should sign up for the 'OxDuro' race this summer to put the components through their paces!
So they are pretty good, but they are quite expensive aswell, with import duties they were around £80 actually.... plus the included insole is dreadful.
The RS bearings can easily be acquired, the L and R etching are actually easier to understand, but knock-off quality is usually hit and miss plus not using the needle bearings suck. They could've modified their design a bit to use ball bearings instead of needle bearings, which would improve the quality and improve repairability since ball bearings are easy to acquire. but i guess knock-off manufacturers can't be bothered with that 🙂 using titanium and carbon fiber but not bothering to use proper bearings ☠️
I has wellgo pedals with du 'nylon' bushings - absolute rubbish, 3 pairs dead within 1000 miles. Seems this pedal would be good except for that - all to save a £5 a pair
Thanks! Yeah i need to get a few more miles on the cassette before I can really test the quality, but TBH if you are thinking of getting one, just go for it. From what i have seen so far, they are pretty freaking amazing for the price!
@@TraceVelo Good to hear. With supply issues, getting a SRAM or Shimano equivalent has been expensive. Wouldn't mind dropping some extra €€€ for a lightweight cassette that has similar longevity. My only concern would be indexing or gear slip.
@@SgtFinaldo No issues with either on my SRoad cassette. I've never run Dura-Ace or Sram Red cassettes, but the SRoad one is easily as good as my 105 R7000 cassette...
The John Smith (the one with Delileah bike) made a video about pedals and as to why you should get the cheap ali express knock off ones, I got myself a Promend branded SPD -SL ones at I already clocked in 5,000 KMs since September of last year and I still have no issues with them. It costed me $20 and it is a complete steal for what it is, that said I might check out this Costelo pedals if I grow bored of the SPD-SL mechanism. The same guy also recommended that the Costelo Vento Bartapes feel the same with the legit Fizik Vento. Might also be worth checking it out.
Those Costelo pedals may indeed prove to be less durable, but remember that you could afford to replace them THREE times before You’d be out of pocket versus the Time pedals🤷♂️
Very true, but I would still not recommend them unless you are planning to replace the bearings. Ultimately 60 quid is a decent budget for pedals. There are definitely better choices out there!
@@TraceVelo Thanks, Luke. Anyway, Im really after Shimano compatible pedals for my winter bike, so I don’t have to have two sets of cleats/shoes. (My summer bike sports pukka Ultegra pedals). Know youre busy, but I would welcome any good value alternative recommendations. 🤞
The analysis is interesting and valid for a lot of chinese products.. it can look good from the outside, but will probably lack on durability and maintenance.. but Costelo is kinda good, I have a Vento bartape knockoff which is holding well after 5kkm, and a G8 2620 insole copy which is possibly one of the best purchases I made.. going strong 1.5yrs, solved some foot issues I was having, it's probably better than most competitors, and of course is not durable as the G8, but it's like 10% of the cost so.... I was going to ask about the Sidebike shoe, always been intrigued by those.. good to know a review is on the way! haha
Have you tried reusing the costelo bartapes or you never had to take them off when recabling? I want to try a bartape that will last me for long, I have already used 3 different kinds but the best so far is the one that costed me the least.
Yeah i have heard a few good things about Costelo frames too, i mean maybe i'll check one out in the future... As for the shoes, they are pretty good, what i would say tho, the insoles that are included are absolute trash...
@@hucklejoko4838 hmm not yet, I've installed it and it remains in place, without significant wear in all that time, that's all I can say... The adhesive seems strong tho, so I'd say to take them off would tear the tape apart :(
Once the Costelo pedals bearings/bushings wear out, it would be interesting to compare life if you replace them with sealed cartridge & needle bearings.
After this video sparked my curiosity and an annoying squeak that developed last week. I pulled apart my 6 year old (purchased in Feb-2017) Xpresso 12's. Only to discover (to my surprise.) that they are knockoffs... But 6-years of flawless service, that's not bad (up until last week, no slop, no play, no noise at all from the rotating assembly.) And I've swapped in known OEM parts ordered direct from the Time dealer in Australia (cleats and strike plates) that work perfectly. After a clean and some new NTN bearings, expecting them to go another 6+ years and +30,000kms.
Awesome, thanks Anthony! Yeah this is definitely on my list. But while you wait, my absolute favourite bike light is the Navi800 from Enfitnix. I picked it up on AliExpress for £25... It's amazing!
Great video. It would awesome to do a similar teardown comparison of the "Chinaplay" and the official Wahoo Speedplay. My Aliexpress titanium ones have got 1500+ miles on them and still going strong so seem pretty well built (thanks for your previous review video).
Good review mate. I add: I've ridden on these pedals for 3 years . I also own the originals having bought them first. Quite good except : 1. The tightness of the clip- in can't be adjusted like the original. It's because the axle adjusting the carbon spring clip stiffness variance is not manufactured to the same tolerances as the original and can't vary the stiffness of the carbon clip. 2. The bearings are poor quality. Change them out. The nylon bushing has no problems both on the original and this . The carbon and the titanium axle work fine. That's Chinese knock offs for you: the main thing they usually get mostly right but quite bad on the last 90 +percent details. At the end of the day you get what you pay for.
Again a superb video with a great technical background and great eye for detail. Hope you get to 100k Subscribers in the next mpnths. Just left a comment for the algorithmus :)
@@TraceVelo Looking forwward to ypur upcoming videos. you are really delpoying the content like crazy this year. Keep the good work up and i think we all see the great effort you are putting in. Thank you a million times for that :)
Great video, Luke! Would be cool if you could take the time to make a "best of" kind of video i.e. which parts you think are really worth buying and have decent quality. For example, I got one of the saddles you mentioned in one of your videos and I'm super happy about it. Thanks for your great content, you rock!
Now I know why mine are making such a noise. THANKS for this. Oh I also now know why they were such a good price. Fully TIME branded. I will try and fix them with bearings.
Been here since the beginning, and I look forward to each and every video. Well.. except that one video. But we don't talk about that. *Cough*. ANYWAY.. I'm running speedplay pedals currently, and love them. I've been thinking hard about giving the titanium China Play pedals a sniff. I just love the float and the massive cleat cover that you have to push off from with that particular platform.
Yeah I would probably give them a go. If you run speedplays currently, then they are basically the same. I think the cleats are also interchangable between them
Super looking forward to the gravel bike as want get one myself... From the picture you posted in the video it looks like an Ican frame... I just got Ican 38mm wheels... They really nice and feel great to ride on!
I think you could complement this with a comparison of cheap AliExpress cleats against look and Shimano originals. Would be cheaper 😃 and not so long. IMO they are near identical and $7 v $40
I can confirm not all Time Xpresso 12 pedals have the Grove. They aren’t created equal. I’ve have been using Time pedals since the 90’s. The earlier version of Time Xpresso 12’s used to use a bushing. Which the later version as well as the Mavic iClic use a proper bearing. I have found the first thing to wear out is the pedal’s rear clip. It can develop a chamfer where it meets the cleats rear portion where it engages. This will render the pedals unusable if you pull up the pedal stroke it will disengage.
I've some old TIME XPresso 12s (2013) and indeed they don't have the groove (and use bushings, not bearings). Don't think I got scammed with knockoffs, as I bought them from a reputable seller. Must be something they added later. Got the same problem with the worn-out clip, mine still work but occasionally I'm "half clipped in" and have to clip out and back in for them to fully engage. It's worse if the cleat also has some wear.
I've been using the Zeray ZP-110s (1:17) which are a Look Keo knock-off and have been super happy with them. Better than Look's entry-level Keo Classics and on par with their mid-range pedals. Picked them up for £20-25, and so happy with them got another pair to replace my worn Look Keo 2 Max pedals for a third of the price.
@@TraceVelo I've not checked them out in detail as you have. Just chucked them on the bike and off I went. No idea about longevity but have used for about 2000km over winter with no issues so far. But even if they only last for half the time as Look pedal, then I'm ahead.
I've had these pedals on a bike for 3 years they're ok but the bearings on one is starting to go. The problem is the float on the cleats are quite excessive for me but you can get a less floaty cleat as a genuine aftermarket. The knock iclic cleat are ok but not great and they don't last long. the genuine are better but pricey. The time first pedal are a good pedal worth a look at Luke
Right OK, that's longer than I thought they would last tbh. But I agree with you about the cleats that come with them. The Rubber is already peeling of after a few hundred miles. Anyway, thanks for the comment Glenn!!!
Interesting camparison, I do not understand why you should buy the counterfit version. Just buy the xpresso 4 or 6 for similar money but you will then get decent bearings and just 70g or 80g more total weight. As I have worked with injection moulding I am actually more concerned regarding process times. If you stress the cycle times in injection moulding you will end up with flowlines and hot spots which reduces the strength of the material. So if you try to cut cost in time then you soon will get fatigue cracking pedal bodys. On my commuter I have used the Atac 2 pedals for almost 10 years now without service. Just keep on rolling.
Exustar Keo-style (or spd-sl style) pedals are definitely the best. And if you can get the ones with titanium spindles, they weigh only 200g for a pair.
it all comes down to pride in your work, some knock offs can be amazing value as long as the manufacturer has come pride in what they are doing. Sadly 99% of knock-off companies just want to make as much money as fast as possible before closing down.
Yeah, I know alot of people swear by SPD on road bikes. But the shoe covers are from AliExpress again, the brand name is Giro. I've had quite alot of their stuff in the past, seems pretty decent.
Looking at these pedals again. Just as a rule, it's good to avoid pure copycat parts. Howver, if one wanted these pedals and was willing to put in a little sweat equity the bearing and nylon bushing could be easily and cheaply replaced with 2RS and needle roller bearings, respectively
Yeah im pretty tempted to replace them like you describe, but im also keen to see how long they will last as is.... I think when they give up the ghost in the current configuration, I'll get the parts replaced. Should only cost a few quid
Looking forward to the upcoming reviews. As far as Costelo building a cycling team what better way to showcase the quality and durability of their products. By knocking off top name brands and branding them Castelo of course.
HA, spot on! Yeah im really excited to give it a go, could be absolute trash, I mean the reviews are awful and Giant didnt sell it for very long... But it's so wierd, i have to try it!
I have those pedals and in all honesty they aren't bad even tho Luke said they are, they're super light work just as well as Time. I don't use them however due to slight rocking in the axle area and just went with DA spd-sl's..tho I'd still ride them if they'd be stronger, I did get the DA pedals for 150 too 👌 that's why I use them and they're tried and tested
so insightful and very interesting to see what these counterfeiters are up to!! Shwalb...never knew that and i also called it something else...>.> great funnys going on!! :D thank you for the depth of detail and analysis as i was going to get a set but with your help, i think i will avoid a counterfeit!
@17:46 WAIT WHAT?!? Riding Luke and Studio Luke are two different people?!?! The travesty!! Edit: Do you have a Patreon? I know I'd sign up for it if you had one. Your content is top notch and you should be compensated appropriately for it.
Thanks so much Michael, I love seeing comments like these, really makes my day!!! So yeah, I've definitely considered setting up a patreon, and maybe I will in the future, but for now just watching and enjoying my videos is more than enough 😊
Costelo on Alibaba used to make some killer T800 bike packages that were high quality stuff. Whoever says they wouldnt recommend them at 4 times less cost has some math problems. 100% guaranteed 4 sets of those Costelo brand will out last the original brand. The deal is ridiculously good.
I very nearly bought a set of Elite mtb xc wheels recently... Settled on a pair from Farsports in the end, I hope they're going to be worth the money, not received them yet. 😊👍
Man not only do you do these cheap chinese parts, which non of the big channels do, you do up your videos in such high quality and detail into these parts, looking at the construction etc. Really a one of a kind. Eveyone always needs to save a buck or two in this expensive hobby. You are really doing everyone a giant service thanks man!
Awesome, glad you like these videos :)
1st let me congratulate you for the evolution of the channel, Luke.. being here since the 1st build it's so awesome to see not only the quality raising, but your knowledge and detail analysis of the components, construction, etc.. thanks for the dedication and content!!
Awesome, thanks so much Stefano, what an awesome comment!!! I'm always trying to improve my videos, so glad this is coming across 🙏🙏🙏
The plastic "tags" (actually called "flash") the rougher surface (and maybe even the colour saturation) is likely less to do with the actual moulds or materials and more to do with skipping the finishing steps. Usually on more high end plastics someone would manually trim off the flash with razor and very quickly hit the the parts with a blowtorch (referred to as flashing), the heat temporarily melts the surface smoothing things out and burns off any white mould release powder (talc) imbedded in the surface which can mute the colour. You could do this yourself and see if it brings the knockoffs more into line aesthetically with the originals.
Chris, fantastic comment, dropping some KNOWLEDGE on me! Interesting though, from what you have said, they will have skipped several finishing steps, so it will definitely have bough the cost of manufacture down!
@@TraceVelo This makes me wonder if Costelo was manufacturing the pedal bodies (in China) all along for assembly in France, where they used better quality bearings, etc. Anyway, thanks Luke. (Maybe the "Made in France" logo was stretching the truth?)
Hi bought a costelo road bike 2 years ago, full carbon, frame/forks, 80 and 60 mm deep carbon wheels, 11 speed ultegra di2 disc brake, integrated stem/bars, really great bike, looks exactly like the cannon aeroroad bike....
I always watch Trace Velo videos ALL the way through to make sure he gets that sweet "watch time" for the analytics/algorithm. Love your stuff man, you're doing everyone a great service!
MY MAN!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
“Let’s hand this of to Luke in the studio” made me giggle :)
That's incredible you even bought original ones to compare with knock offs. I'm using original xpresso 2 from last summer and I love them. I want to upgrade (???) with knock offs, your review helped me. What I found, All Time pedals (xpresso and even Xpro) have these white bushings instead of needle bearings, except some older higher end models like yours xpresso 12.
For the weight saving and reliability of these knock off's I'd still go for SPD-SL bob basic at 309g
Yeah, I mean i have an old pair of PD-5700 SPD-Sl pedals. I must have done 20,000 miles on them, and they are still perfectly smooth!
Tracevelo and Spindatt are my fav channels for cycling tech/setup these days. Some big channels are feeling like they just push the most expensive gear blindly.
U should try hambini as well!
Hambini is an acquired taste.
Thanks for the in-depth comparison!
I've bought a couple of XPresso 12s over the past decade, and a few of the lower-tier XPressos too. They are fantastic pedals - second to none in looks (sorry LOOK), weight, quality, and ergonomics.
I just checked my oldest ones (~2013) - they do not have the groove in the spindle, but an etched L/R marking, like the Costelo ones. Newer ones have the groove.
The original TIMEs also used nylon bushings for a long time. They last, but definitely have more play than a proper needle bearing. Swapping the bushing for a bearing is a popular mod. Newer XPro ones have bearings, anecdotally the Mavic branded ones that TIME manufactured also used bearings, but I have no first hand experience with those.
The originals could regularly be had for around 150 USD (from reputable distributors, not aliexpress/ebay knockoffs), so the Costelo ones aren't that great of a deal. I'm sad they have been discontinued.
BTW, the TIME pedal brand is owned by SRAM now. Even post-acquisition, their customer service is flawless. They just sent me replacements for some worn parts free of charge.
OK thanks for the comment bloop! Interesting that they bought in the groove post 2013... maybe the pedals I've seen are legit. It's can be SO difficult to tell with these Chinese products. You are right about SRAM though, their returns policy is pretty stellar!
Are you sure about that Mavic point?
Here another Time user, that bought a Mavic pair on 2015 aprox and after about 15k kms they wore out that bushing. Mavic gave me my money back.
They where the previous than top of the range model (carbon body without titanium axle)
I still use Time Xpresso 10 that I've bought for replacement of those Mavic pedals
Really looking forward to see you building up that sweet gravel bike!
I think its actually quite interesting, how cheaply one can build up a gravel bike from lets say a trekking frame + a rigid carbon fork (carboncycles for example) and some used STI levers (ST-RS405 or ST-RS505 can be real good deals sometimes). It requires a bit of tinkering with the compatibilities, but i learned a lot and managed to build up some very nice and cheap bikes for me and my friends.
greetings from germany
Yeah if you shop around, and are willing tinker around with some second hand parts, you can def do it on the cheap. But yeah im really excited to see how the gravel bike turns out... Especially with the braking setup i've chosen, its gonna be an interesting build that's for sure!
When you say cheap, how much do you mean?
A few years ago I had a pair of genuine Time Xpresso pedals purchased from Merlin cycles. When I took them apart to service them one pedal had needle roller bearing, the other pedal had a bushing, just like the one in your Costello knock off. I replaced the bushing with a needle roller bearing.
Very odd... Good you got.it replace though!
I swear by the real thing, Time know how to make a pedal 🇫🇷
Thank you for your service to all bikers everywhere
Love the dedication and attention to detail in the review. Thanks for doing these.
Much appreciated!
I'm very excited about your gravel bike build video - I might have trouble sleeping until it comes out!
One of you best video. Thank you very much for your work
Thanks targa, really appreciate it!!!
I bought a Costelo Supersonic road bike back in 2019. I think this predates Trifox, but it's exactly the same Trifox frame that has been reviewed by several UA-cam bike reviewers. It was utterly fantastic; light and rigid, an excellent machine to cover the miles. It had a few little bits that weren't perfect, but nothing that would hinder the everyday user.
Ok nice, thanks for the comment Bryce! Yeah i have heard a few good things about Costelo frames tbh... Maybe they are worth a look....
Before the current BMC copy that you show in the video they had a Speedmachine model that I have always wanted but never obtained. Instead I have been buying 2nd hand western frames and building those up.
UPDATE: The fakes are good, really, really good (at least mine are,) at mimicking the real deal. Just pulled them apart after 6-years for the first time. And to my surprise...
Just checked my Xpresso 12 pedals. Had them since 2017.
No groove on the left pedal. But do have the left hand (*indicated*) thread on the drive side pedal.
Regards
Jordan
Really OK, maybe the groove in the axle is a more recent addition.... 🤔
@@TraceVelo UPDATE:
After 6 years I finally decided to pull my Xpresso 12's apart, partly because of this video (curiosity) and the left pedal was making a noise (thought it was the cleat, but replaced that and still the noise. Turns out. After 6 years and countless kilometres (easily +30,000kms, possibly nearer 40,000,) my pedals are indeed fakes. I should also note that I regularly swap them between bikes and have had no issues wit the Ti axle thread,; looks as good today as it did 6-years ago. While the axle screw has indications for different threads, both have a standard Right-Hand thread. Inside were the metal shielded 6801 bearings and nylon sleeve.
I've replaced the bearings with NTN 6801LU double contact rubber seal bearings and re-greased with my favourite bentonite clay high temp bearings grease. Obviously they were spotless before re-assembly.
What's wild is just how good the fakes are... (or at least mine have been.) I always use OEM Time cleats from my local bike shop. I've even had them special order in new strike plates on a couple of occasions as they've worn out. All fit and work perfectly. While its 6 years ago now (paypal receipt dates Feb-17, 2017,) I kind of recall that the packaging was excellent and gave no indication that they were fakes, had a manual and all. Even though they are fake :(, they have performed flawlessly for 6 years. No slop in the bearing, not play in the sleeve. And the bearing lasted 6-years!!! (Also live in Australia and very rarely ride in the wet.)
Thanks for the excellent video. Learnt alot. At least I know my Time VXRS frame is genuine, and while the pedals are knock-off's, they sure don't look like it.
Jordan
OK nice, well then maybe my costelo set will last after all... I just assumed the nylon bearing would only last a few hundred kilometres, but clearly you can get some decent mileage out of these pedals. It probably helps that you are in OZ, so get some nice dry sunny weather, but regardless, 30,000km plus is freaking impressive. Thanks for the update dude!!!!
Another great show Luke and I’m looking forward to the gravel bike 🚴
Thanks Jonathan!!!
As always, informative and amusing, keep the episodes coming Luke
Brilliant video, well done. Really looking forward to seeing the gravel bike take shape
Thanks Andy, yeah I'm really excited to put it together!!!
I recall that Joe of China Cycling interviewed Mr Costelo at the China Bike Show. Apparently the real deal & a major player. I guess if its good enough for his team to use...however bike teams always throw away & replace stuff as it wears out doesn't apply to the home user though. Elvis has left the building 🤣 Oh another great video & looking forward to the next one already.
I don't own a road bike but love watching your reviews 😁 top notch!
Awesome, glad you like them!!!!!!!!
I am enjoying your clips from time to time in S. Korea. Thank you for your review. I lived in Lancaster, the UK. Cheers!!
You're correct, I bought a pair and the axle that holds the tension spring cracked and broke. When it did, I noticed wear in several other parts of that pedal most of which you mentioned in your video. It would just be a matter of time till it failed in other areas if that spring axle didn't fail first. Lasted me less than 2 months of regular riding.
Hmmmm, yeah I'll be interested to see how long my set last, after reading this, I'll def keep a close eye on them!
Great video Luke, keep them coming please!
Cheers Graham!!!!
Im glad I watched this post before dealing on Craigslist for insane deal,I almost got burned.Thanks for your content🤙👊
You're welcome, glad it helped. On that note though, those costello pedals are still going strong with minimal maintenance... must have done 1000's miles on them by this point, I'm pretty impressed tbh. Might be worth a followup
Awesome video as always. Also really looking forward to that Senicx crankset video 👀
Your videos never fail to make my day. Keep it up Luke, as always ;)
Cheers Reg!
Really, really looking forward to your review of the Drive wheels!
Yeah I cannot wait to get my hands on them!!!
@@TraceVelo mine will be in tomorrow!
I've been using three different generations of Time pedals - currently I'm on the Xpro 12 pedals. I can vouch for the longevity of the axle design. It's been unchanged for ages. None of them ever failed on me. They do develop a tiny bit of axial play but that's it. The Xpresso were actually the best value for money ever. Too bad they're discontinued. The open design means that you can stomp on the wrong side of the pedal and break the carbon spring. Happened to me once. It's very unlikely. However, I do think that the closed bottom on the Xpro series is an improvement for that reason. Of course they say it's more aero as well ;).
Yeah after trying these, I'd really love to give the XPRO ones a go!
Were you able to find a replacement spring (carbon plate)? Just happened to me
@@perrybizyk2596 No. I upgraded to the Xpro pedals when it happened to me. I don’t think a replacement spring exists.
Another great quality review and production Luke!! Keep up the great work, looking forward to see you building that gravel bike..
Cheers grant!
I used to ride TIME pedals and they were easy in/out. the White plastic is probably Durlon (harder nylon) and is used in several pedals including Crank Brothers platform pedals. The RS bearings are cheep and I would replace the shielded ones as (in your video) your pedal starts moving side to side. Durlon is cheaper but probably not as bad as you would think. But please replace the shielded bearings before a catastrophic failure. You can get the bearing number off of the shielded bearing or the RS one in the OG Time pedal.
Thanks for the reviews and always entertaining! Completely unrelated and a definite blast from the past about the RLX Carbon Bottle cages... not recommended on seat tube on my gravel bike, The force of a hard knock was just too much for the tab at the bottom, no problems on my road bike though.
Thanks Dirk! Yeah I think the shielded bearings def need to be replaced! I very got the bearing size, and they are only a few quid, so def worth doing!!!
i have no experience with Time Pedals but my late friend Rolf Rost had these. Rolf was mechanic of the Swiss National Team when Wolfram Lindner was national trainer. I had problems with SPD pedals and Rolf fixed it - he told me that these problems are frequent except for Time Pedals
after watching Hambini I think Time is a brand that is underestimated they are quality nerds
Looking forward to the gravel bike build! Been looking to get some upgrades for mine so would be great to see where I can cut some costs 😉.
If you live around Oxford you should sign up for the 'OxDuro' race this summer to put the components through their paces!
Yeah im really excited to get the gravel bike build together! But yeah I'll def have a look into that OxDuro, thanks for the tip!!
Can't wait to see what you have to say about those shoes. From the video they look pretty good
So they are pretty good, but they are quite expensive aswell, with import duties they were around £80 actually.... plus the included insole is dreadful.
@@TraceVelo Yes, they cost GBP 80 but they have full carbon fiber outsoles. Where you can get shoes with 100% carbon soles for less than that?
I love my Time Xpresso pedals and cleats. I tried other brands and it never felt as good and as natural before I tried those.
Fair enough. Clipless pedals are such a personal thing. I think i probably prefer Look keo, but with the iclic system I can see why people like them
@@TraceVelo Great videos by the way. Always enjoy your reviews and your jokes.
Great review, hopefully manufacturers who are confident will be open to supplying their product gratis to compare to knockoffs.
Thanks Ima, glad you liked the video 😀
The RS bearings can easily be acquired, the L and R etching are actually easier to understand, but knock-off quality is usually hit and miss plus not using the needle bearings suck. They could've modified their design a bit to use ball bearings instead of needle bearings, which would improve the quality and improve repairability since ball bearings are easy to acquire. but i guess knock-off manufacturers can't be bothered with that 🙂 using titanium and carbon fiber but not bothering to use proper bearings ☠️
I has wellgo pedals with du 'nylon' bushings - absolute rubbish, 3 pairs dead within 1000 miles. Seems this pedal would be good except for that - all to save a £5 a pair
Yeah im with you on this one, it was really close to being a great pedal... But that nylon bushing really lets it down!
@ Sep G You’ve misspelled “thieves”
In depth. Great investigation SherLuke Holmes. We are waiting on your SRoad Cassette review!!!!
Thanks! Yeah i need to get a few more miles on the cassette before I can really test the quality, but TBH if you are thinking of getting one, just go for it. From what i have seen so far, they are pretty freaking amazing for the price!
@@TraceVelo Good to hear. With supply issues, getting a SRAM or Shimano equivalent has been expensive. Wouldn't mind dropping some extra €€€ for a lightweight cassette that has similar longevity. My only concern would be indexing or gear slip.
@@SgtFinaldo No issues with either on my SRoad cassette. I've never run Dura-Ace or Sram Red cassettes, but the SRoad one is easily as good as my 105 R7000 cassette...
@@TraceVelo Seems the business. I wanted to avoid the Aluminium spider ones you reviewed a few months back. This steel based one seems the business.
Nice vid er, Luke as always. Cant wait for the gravel bike!
Cheers Clyde Frog!!!! Yeah im really excited to get it built!!!
The John Smith (the one with Delileah bike) made a video about pedals and as to why you should get the cheap ali express knock off ones, I got myself a Promend branded SPD -SL ones at I already clocked in 5,000 KMs since September of last year and I still have no issues with them. It costed me $20 and it is a complete steal for what it is, that said I might check out this Costelo pedals if I grow bored of the SPD-SL mechanism. The same guy also recommended that the Costelo Vento Bartapes feel the same with the legit Fizik Vento. Might also be worth checking it out.
I have ordered the 10 pcs of 8x12x3.5mm bearings. Thanks for the info!
link please? and how did yo put them in the pedals?
Another great one luke, hope you make it big this year!
Thanks so much!!! Yeah me too :)
Those Costelo pedals may indeed prove to be less durable, but remember that you could afford to replace them THREE times before You’d be out of pocket versus the Time pedals🤷♂️
Very true, but I would still not recommend them unless you are planning to replace the bearings. Ultimately 60 quid is a decent budget for pedals. There are definitely better choices out there!
@@TraceVelo Thanks, Luke. Anyway, Im really after Shimano compatible pedals for my winter bike, so I don’t have to have two sets of cleats/shoes. (My summer bike sports pukka Ultegra pedals). Know youre busy, but I would welcome any good value alternative recommendations. 🤞
The analysis is interesting and valid for a lot of chinese products.. it can look good from the outside, but will probably lack on durability and maintenance.. but Costelo is kinda good, I have a Vento bartape knockoff which is holding well after 5kkm, and a G8 2620 insole copy which is possibly one of the best purchases I made.. going strong 1.5yrs, solved some foot issues I was having, it's probably better than most competitors, and of course is not durable as the G8, but it's like 10% of the cost so.... I was going to ask about the Sidebike shoe, always been intrigued by those.. good to know a review is on the way! haha
Have you tried reusing the costelo bartapes or you never had to take them off when recabling? I want to try a bartape that will last me for long, I have already used 3 different kinds but the best so far is the one that costed me the least.
Yeah i have heard a few good things about Costelo frames too, i mean maybe i'll check one out in the future... As for the shoes, they are pretty good, what i would say tho, the insoles that are included are absolute trash...
@@TraceVelo seems like a good opportunity to test those G8 2620 knockouts I mentioned.. arch options help a lot and they're pretty supportive overall
@@hucklejoko4838 hmm not yet, I've installed it and it remains in place, without significant wear in all that time, that's all I can say... The adhesive seems strong tho, so I'd say to take them off would tear the tape apart :(
Do you have a link to the G8 2620 insole copy.
Once the Costelo pedals bearings/bushings wear out, it would be interesting to compare life if you replace them with sealed cartridge & needle bearings.
After this video sparked my curiosity and an annoying squeak that developed last week. I pulled apart my 6 year old (purchased in Feb-2017) Xpresso 12's. Only to discover (to my surprise.) that they are knockoffs...
But 6-years of flawless service, that's not bad (up until last week, no slop, no play, no noise at all from the rotating assembly.) And I've swapped in known OEM parts ordered direct from the Time dealer in Australia (cleats and strike plates) that work perfectly. After a clean and some new NTN bearings, expecting them to go another 6+ years and +30,000kms.
Another awesome video Luke. I’d love for you to explore the world of bike lights!
Awesome, thanks Anthony! Yeah this is definitely on my list. But while you wait, my absolute favourite bike light is the Navi800 from Enfitnix. I picked it up on AliExpress for £25... It's amazing!
@@TraceVelo thanks for the huge tip! It’s about to turn darker here in Australia and I’ve been a mess looking at lights
Great video. It would awesome to do a similar teardown comparison of the "Chinaplay" and the official Wahoo Speedplay. My Aliexpress titanium ones have got 1500+ miles on them and still going strong so seem pretty well built (thanks for your previous review video).
Yeah, that's a pretty good suggestion tbh... Would be an interesting comparision for sure!
That would be fantastic to see ☺️
Good review mate. I add: I've ridden on these pedals for 3 years . I also own the originals having bought them first. Quite good except :
1. The tightness of the clip- in can't be adjusted like the original. It's because the axle adjusting the carbon spring clip stiffness variance is not manufactured to the same tolerances as the original and can't vary the stiffness of the carbon clip.
2. The bearings are poor quality. Change them out. The nylon bushing has no problems both on the original and this . The carbon and the titanium axle work fine. That's Chinese knock offs for you: the main thing they usually get mostly right but quite bad on the last 90 +percent details. At the end of the day you get what you pay for.
mesure of the bearings??
Again a superb video with a great technical background and great eye for detail. Hope you get to 100k Subscribers in the next mpnths. Just left a comment for the algorithmus :)
MY MAN!!! 👊😎
@@TraceVelo Looking forwward to ypur upcoming videos. you are really delpoying the content like crazy this year. Keep the good work up and i think we all see the great effort you are putting in. Thank you a million times for that :)
Great video, Luke! Would be cool if you could take the time to make a "best of" kind of video i.e. which parts you think are really worth buying and have decent quality. For example, I got one of the saddles you mentioned in one of your videos and I'm super happy about it. Thanks for your great content, you rock!
Yeah great suggestion actually. I'll stick it in the 'Episode ideas' doc 😉
Now I know why mine are making such a noise. THANKS for this. Oh I also now know why they were such a good price. Fully TIME branded. I will try and fix them with bearings.
...and as always I hit the like button before even watching the video because... well, excellent content ahead. Beautiful pullover btw
My man! 🙏
Been here since the beginning, and I look forward to each and every video. Well.. except that one video. But we don't talk about that. *Cough*. ANYWAY.. I'm running speedplay pedals currently, and love them. I've been thinking hard about giving the titanium China Play pedals a sniff. I just love the float and the massive cleat cover that you have to push off from with that particular platform.
Yeah I would probably give them a go. If you run speedplays currently, then they are basically the same. I think the cleats are also interchangable between them
Another informative and detailed video from you ,keep up the good work .
Cheers Gavin, glad you liked it!
Super looking forward to the gravel bike as want get one myself... From the picture you posted in the video it looks like an Ican frame... I just got Ican 38mm wheels... They really nice and feel great to ride on!
Yeah good spot! It's an Ican frame. Really excited to try it out!
It is the same frame I want to buy so looking forward to the video!
Good one... cant wait to see your comments on those shoes :)
Coming soon Marko!!
Mine have the groove in the left.Thanks for the detail.👍👌
No problem Reinhold, glad you got some genuine pedals!!!
Luke, as always, brilliant.
Cheers Andy!!! Glad you liked it
Raceface chester pedals use one shielded bearing and a white nylon bushing as well.
Great video Luke, great detail with your trademark style. Looking forward to the gravel build, curious about the braking set up
Thanks Chuck!!!
Great detective work Luke! I'll give them a miss! Ordered some Elita One bars, hope they are not crap!
Thanks Ed! I've not used the elita bars before, but fingers crossed you got a good set 🤞
I think you could complement this with a comparison of cheap AliExpress cleats against look and Shimano originals. Would be cheaper 😃 and not so long. IMO they are near identical and $7 v $40
Hmmmmmmmm this could make a decent video tbh. ITS GOING ON EPISODE IDEAS LIST!!!!
@@TraceVelo I don't recommend the fake Shimano cleats. They don't wear well, and if you're unlucky they break when you are using them.
I tried knockoff Shimano spd sl cleats and the ones i bought were not fiber reinforced, so they failed quite quickly.
The knockoffs are not as good. very different quality
I can confirm not all Time Xpresso 12 pedals have the Grove. They aren’t created equal. I’ve have been using Time pedals since the 90’s. The earlier version of Time Xpresso 12’s used to use a bushing. Which the later version as well as the Mavic iClic use a proper bearing.
I have found the first thing to wear out is the pedal’s rear clip. It can develop a chamfer where it meets the cleats rear portion where it engages. This will render the pedals unusable if you pull up the pedal stroke it will disengage.
I've some old TIME XPresso 12s (2013) and indeed they don't have the groove (and use bushings, not bearings). Don't think I got scammed with knockoffs, as I bought them from a reputable seller. Must be something they added later.
Got the same problem with the worn-out clip, mine still work but occasionally I'm "half clipped in" and have to clip out and back in for them to fully engage. It's worse if the cleat also has some wear.
The red is polyurea grease, and the green stuff is the castrol grease that shimano use.
I've been using the Zeray ZP-110s (1:17) which are a Look Keo knock-off and have been super happy with them. Better than Look's entry-level Keo Classics and on par with their mid-range pedals. Picked them up for £20-25, and so happy with them got another pair to replace my worn Look Keo 2 Max pedals for a third of the price.
Hmm might have to check those out 🤔
@@TraceVelo I've not checked them out in detail as you have. Just chucked them on the bike and off I went. No idea about longevity but have used for about 2000km over winter with no issues so far. But even if they only last for half the time as Look pedal, then I'm ahead.
I've had these pedals on a bike for 3 years they're ok but the bearings on one is starting to go. The problem is the float on the cleats are quite excessive for me but you can get a less floaty cleat as a genuine aftermarket. The knock iclic cleat are ok but not great and they don't last long. the genuine are better but pricey.
The time first pedal are a good pedal worth a look at Luke
Right OK, that's longer than I thought they would last tbh. But I agree with you about the cleats that come with them. The Rubber is already peeling of after a few hundred miles. Anyway, thanks for the comment Glenn!!!
Good to see you're going with a color other than plain black on your gravel bike (and a nice color at that) 😉
Saw those in a recent video and wondered what they were!
Ive been using shimano spdsl for 10,000 miles now with no problems. They were even second hand
Yeah SPD-Sl pedals are usually pretty bulletproof!
The yellow grease in the time pedals could be motorex grease 2000.
Yeah I think you could be right, some other people in the comments mentioned this too 🤔
Looking forward to seeing the gravel adventure begin
I've been using time pedal for more than 10 years and I do really love it. Just curious why not so many people using it
Interesting camparison, I do not understand why you should buy the counterfit version. Just buy the xpresso 4 or 6 for similar money but you will then get decent bearings and just 70g or 80g more total weight. As I have worked with injection moulding I am actually more concerned regarding process times. If you stress the cycle times in injection moulding you will end up with flowlines and hot spots which reduces the strength of the material. So if you try to cut cost in time then you soon will get fatigue cracking pedal bodys. On my commuter I have used the Atac 2 pedals for almost 10 years now without service. Just keep on rolling.
Exustar Keo-style (or spd-sl style) pedals are definitely the best. And if you can get the ones with titanium spindles, they weigh only 200g for a pair.
Reeeeeally, only 200g.... might have to scope them out. Thanks for the comment Freek!!!
@@TraceVelo I just weighed one: 94 grams on my scales ...
Great video as always mate!
The presentation always raises a smile. Watched the whole video even though I have never and will never use clipless pedals of any type.
Awesome, thanks Lawrence, glad you liked it!!!
it all comes down to pride in your work, some knock offs can be amazing value as long as the manufacturer has come pride in what they are doing. Sadly 99% of knock-off companies just want to make as much money as fast as possible before closing down.
thanks, as usual, Luke.
I’d go the Time pedals every time!
Thats why i use simple SPD Pedals on my Roadbike!
Great Video. Love this Channel! What vor a shoe rain cover are u using?
Yeah, I know alot of people swear by SPD on road bikes. But the shoe covers are from AliExpress again, the brand name is Giro. I've had quite alot of their stuff in the past, seems pretty decent.
Looking at these pedals again. Just as a rule, it's good to avoid pure copycat parts. Howver, if one wanted these pedals and was willing to put in a little sweat equity the bearing and nylon bushing could be easily and cheaply replaced with 2RS and needle roller bearings, respectively
Yeah im pretty tempted to replace them like you describe, but im also keen to see how long they will last as is.... I think when they give up the ghost in the current configuration, I'll get the parts replaced. Should only cost a few quid
@@TraceVelo thanks, as always, for putting up with some of these parts in the name of science
Looking forward to the upcoming reviews. As far as Costelo building a cycling team what better way to showcase the quality and durability of their products. By knocking off top name brands and branding them Castelo of course.
Hi Luke love the channel you’re a natural
I would love you to do a integrated bar and stem install 😁👍
I'm using Costelo frameset, so far so good
TEC the Cycleurope in house brand make licensed Time pedals. They say "made in France" too.
I loved my Time pedals but unfortunately most of my local bike shops don't stock them.
Yeah they don't seem to be super popular really... I can see why shops don't tend to stock them
i have the exustar in titanium version,188gr per pair,they are just perfect i recommand this!
I wonder if that braking system is something like a giant conduct or something even more obscure. Great video as always!
HA, spot on! Yeah im really excited to give it a go, could be absolute trash, I mean the reviews are awful and Giant didnt sell it for very long... But it's so wierd, i have to try it!
To be fair they use the nylon bushing in the lower grade genuine Xpresso versions so the knock offs are more like an 8 with a Ti spindle than 12s
I have those pedals and in all honesty they aren't bad even tho Luke said they are, they're super light work just as well as Time. I don't use them however due to slight rocking in the axle area and just went with DA spd-sl's..tho I'd still ride them if they'd be stronger, I did get the DA pedals for 150 too 👌 that's why I use them and they're tried and tested
You cannot go wrong with an spd-sl pedal, that's for sure!
so insightful and very interesting to see what these counterfeiters are up to!!
Shwalb...never knew that and i also called it something else...>.> great funnys going on!! :D
thank you for the depth of detail and analysis as i was going to get a set but with your help, i think i will avoid a counterfeit!
@17:46 WAIT WHAT?!? Riding Luke and Studio Luke are two different people?!?! The travesty!!
Edit: Do you have a Patreon? I know I'd sign up for it if you had one. Your content is top notch and you should be compensated appropriately for it.
We're twins. Riding Luke is the evil one, it's why he always wears black. He keeps me locked in the Garage
Thanks so much Michael, I love seeing comments like these, really makes my day!!! So yeah, I've definitely considered setting up a patreon, and maybe I will in the future, but for now just watching and enjoying my videos is more than enough 😊
Costelo on Alibaba used to make some killer T800 bike packages that were high quality stuff. Whoever says they wouldnt recommend them at 4 times less cost has some math problems. 100% guaranteed 4 sets of those Costelo brand will out last the original brand. The deal is ridiculously good.
I very nearly bought a set of Elite mtb xc wheels recently... Settled on a pair from Farsports in the end, I hope they're going to be worth the money, not received them yet. 😊👍
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with stuff from farsports. They have a pretty stellar reputation for a reason, im sure you're gonna love them!
I got my farsports wheels about a month ago and they are flawless! I'd gladly buy more in the near future.
you are on your way to be the next clarkson ;-)
Awesome videos! Very helpful and informative.
Can you do a review on oval chainrings?
Wow, so exiting - waiting for new videos aswel!! Great, incredible work here! Thank you.