I once had a teacher who also really liked KISS. Sucks he told me i was stupid and would be a failure in life. Never understood why when I aced his class and just wanted to ask him questions to learn. Him evading them and telling me I should understand on my own made no sense considering I was a student and he was the teacher.
Some teachers carry on the ways that they were taught/treated by their teachers and those things aren't always the right fit for every person type. I hope you still got something from his class despite it.
Lmao my art teacher was they exact way. While he did make some good points when teaching and gave good advice and lessons, he unfortunately spended most of the class constantly yelling and berating us all, calling us failures, and throwing stuff over the most trivial things. He also tended to vehemently spout a lot of outdated beliefs that would often make a good portion of the class uncomfortable, one of them being beating kids with ADHD (Something I have, which I kind of saw as a threat when I first heard that). He was also a little racist, but then again, he was one of the oldest teachers in the school at the time. One of my classmates described him as a watered down John Kricfalusi, which after doing research of the latter, I can somewhat agree on that to some extent with the behavior. Thankfully, he retired last year, so no one will have to put up with his bull anymore.
I also have a teacher that likes to say KISS but it was in primary school and he wasn’t that bad although he did make some remarks about people in the class being stupid
I dont remeber where I learned KISS, but it's always been in my head, and I hear it constantly whenever I overcomplicate a drawing or even doing complicating finish carpentry, I hear it lol..
I remembered it from a short-lived show on Cartoon Network called Tower Prep. I think a kid had a parent that worked in tech and that was a common motto.
I can see it being used to hinder a project too. One of the writers for Fallout 4 mentions KISS, but the game was criticized for it's story that left a lot to be desired.
This is why I have at least 2 versions of many of my characters. A detailed version for close ups and posters and such...and a simple versions which portrays the character correctly with less details and more emphasis on the shapes themselves
I was thinking that, too. People who talk about shape language pretty much always use super-stylized, cartoony characters as an example, but like... what if you're not drawing something where every character has a different unique shape? I want to see this applied to characters like Ami from Sailor Moon or Rei from Evangelion.
I remember when I took a more advanced art class in high school and had to do still lives and portraits. Our art teacher still told us to break it down into shapes. Sometimes it'd have more or less shapes than the one in the video. Then from there you'd gradually add more detail. So I'd guess they still break it down to shapes. Maybe they look at a wooden mannequin, reference images, or act it out themselves for poses or a complex emotion. It's worth looking into behind the scene stuff or interviews of animators you like for inspiration.
I see soooo many people make really complicated characters with intricate markings/design and while they look cool, they are so hard to make art of. this is why i like keeping my characters markings/clothing/design simple and iconic
Luca Hass to be one of my favorite Disney movies. It has every summer vibe and it makes me feel like I’m back in summer especially when it’s winter. Good job Disney and Pixar you really made my life a lot more easier.
They still use the same foundation tho. Many anime characters can still be distinguished by shape, color or gestures. There's also different standards for western and eastern animation too
Yeah, it gets to the point that some characters either are ridiculously overly designed or impossible to be told apart cause the artist draws the same face and body shape, only differing in eye and hair color/cut
well, at least at the sketch level. the reason is simply to make it easier and quicker to reproduce. but if ya got an army of animators with bread crums for pay, ya can prob get away with more complex designs layered on top of the basic sketches. or be like those few people who spend half their life to make a single comic so slowly because they made too much work for themselves and were in too deep to start over.
Stop thinking of the final designs and just really look at the characters, robots, monsters, etc. You'll notice basic shapes reoccurring throughout their artwork.
The other really important thing for animation is to remember that the most memorable characters should be identifiable even if all you see is a silhouette. Their body shape should be unique enough in your work that even just the silhouette is enough to tell who they are. It's why Minnie Mouse wears a dress and has a bow, instead of relying on less obvious tells like a different color or facial features that may not show all the time.
Happened to see this short again and it’s exactly what I needed to hear to not feel so overwhelmed with learning the basics of character design. Thank you!
My problem is, when i keep my drawing simple, transforming that simple into something more complicated is harder than deez nuts. For example, when i draw an anatomy for a pose, i want to see how my character looks in that pose, so i tried to draw my character above the anatomy to keep the consistency. But when i tried to draw my character, no matter how many times i tried to keep the consistency of the pose, the characters outfit and body, i just cant draw it.
mfw my general art style and characters I design have realistic proportions and shapes making simplification more difficult :pensive: Just a reminder that I need to try developing a secondary simplified art style to animate with. That or I can try learning animation on hard mode xd
Haha my animation teacher says the same thing. "Keep it simple, stupid". Also rather than saying "everybody understand?" Or "got it?" He says "we hip to the jive?" He's a very good teacher
Wait why is ghis actually one of the best pieces of advice I've heard for animation? Its so simple and logical but also a game changer! This actually makes me less scared to try more complex animations with different angles!
Nope! Visual style trends just happen in waves. You get several years where different styles take over for a bit before a new one happens and takes its place. In the 60s, a LOT looked like that Hannah Barbera Star Trek cartoon, 80s had GI Joe and Thundercats looking series. It's all trends like clothes! The main thing that changed animation styles now was the shift to symbol animation software. That gave us shows that move like Rick & Morty does, where individual bits are moved, rather than hand drawn. That changed how character designs were made because of the constraints of that animation.
My brain gets extremely impatient when it comes to digital art, mostly because lineart feels much less forgiving than traditional pen and paper. I found an interesting way around it which was to make the pen big, say size 50 or 80, and make large blobs to quickly define the silhouette. This way, I can use those blobs to make the brain work for the lineart 1000x simpler than if I was making the line art on a blank canvas. (Note: I do use a new layer for the line art on top of the shape blobs)
Meanwhile me, having a mostly anime-ish artstyle that I can just memorise the design easily even if it's complicated and can easily recreate any reference photo:
Thank you so much! I'm trying to become an animator myself and have a story a ready thought out so I just need to design characters. I have so many of them so it's hard to keep track! This will help a lot!
I’ve been drawing for a long time and I never really understood the shape thing people were talking about but this actually helped me understand the shape thing and is going to help me in the future a lot
That'll definitely help me remember my characters... But the thing that helps me the most to remember how handsome and attractive I find you is when I get a notification of when you've posted a new video 😍🤣
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Where were you 2 weeks ago when I started this extremely overly-complicated project?! 😂
Hope this helps for the next one, at least!
keep it simple, stupid!!
@boiiiigodofboiiii I forgot how to be a billionaire, can you help me?
@@w花bI forgot how to type, can you help me?
@@noimsquidward7327I forgot how to use my fingers, can you help me?
Japanese animators: You're not going to see your families again.
Orphan animator who is single: Wait, I have a family?
Fr 💀
@@men_del12People who live in abusive households: fine by me
@@threecheeseburritoreal
@@threecheeseburritoZhongli...what are you doing here?!
And that, children, is why we create model sheets.
Thanks mister!
Ye I thought he was gonna talk about that but then talked about something completely different
Is a model sheet the same as a reference sheet/character reference sheet?
@@moonwatcher4047 Yes; also known as a "Turnaround," because you include views of the character from several different angles.
@@willmfrank Cool!
Our graphic design professor said it as “Keep It Simple Sweetie!” and I still adore her for that after years :D
I learned the phrase as Keep It Stupid Simple.
@@ImmacHn😂
My professor literally said it as "Keep It Simple Sweetheart."
“keep it simple, sweetie!”
“keep it simple, stupid.”
@@sasvkeee._the middle ground is sweaty
Wait... you had an animation teacher in HIGH SCHOOL?! That's awesome 😍
Thats what i say. Bro was lucky
Idk I want that too😭
Yeah like wtf
proko didnt exactly come from a poor household lol
Yah! I was gonna comment this like dose this guy live on another version of this world? 😂
I can imagine a college professor screaming at his students to KISS.
😂
IT APPEARS THERE'S BEEN A BIG MISUNDERSTANDING-
“Great advice, hurts my feelings every time.”
-Dwight Schrute
first thing i thought of lol
exactly what that reminded me of lmao
I came straight to the comments to find this comment. Thank you! I was having a hard time remembering it.
Teacher: Kiss it.. KISS YOUR ARTWORK
💀
... 💀
K - Keep
I - It
S - Simple
S - Stupid
🤓
But imagine if the teacher actually meant that💀
*FBI, OPEN UP!*
I love how I read that in peri's voice- I js find it funny bc ur pfp is Peri and- yea nvm ill stop-
I once had a teacher who also really liked KISS. Sucks he told me i was stupid and would be a failure in life. Never understood why when I aced his class and just wanted to ask him questions to learn. Him evading them and telling me I should understand on my own made no sense considering I was a student and he was the teacher.
Some teachers carry on the ways that they were taught/treated by their teachers and those things aren't always the right fit for every person type.
I hope you still got something from his class despite it.
Lmao my art teacher was they exact way.
While he did make some good points when teaching and gave good advice and lessons, he unfortunately spended most of the class constantly yelling and berating us all, calling us failures, and throwing stuff over the most trivial things. He also tended to vehemently spout a lot of outdated beliefs that would often make a good portion of the class uncomfortable, one of them being beating kids with ADHD (Something I have, which I kind of saw as a threat when I first heard that). He was also a little racist, but then again, he was one of the oldest teachers in the school at the time.
One of my classmates described him as a watered down John Kricfalusi, which after doing research of the latter, I can somewhat agree on that to some extent with the behavior.
Thankfully, he retired last year, so no one will have to put up with his bull anymore.
I also have a teacher that likes to say KISS but it was in primary school and he wasn’t that bad although he did make some remarks about people in the class being stupid
when i read this comment i hadn't watched the whole video and i thought your teacher just really liked the band kiss 💀💀
Narcissist threatened by your potential take it as a compliment
Your animation teacher just watched this in his favorite chair, laughed, smiled, and took his last breath
Why am I crying.
Damn how old you think their teacher is lmfao
I dont remeber where I learned KISS, but it's always been in my head, and I hear it constantly whenever I overcomplicate a drawing or even doing complicating finish carpentry, I hear it lol..
I remembered it from a short-lived show on Cartoon Network called Tower Prep. I think a kid had a parent that worked in tech and that was a common motto.
I can see it being used to hinder a project too. One of the writers for Fallout 4 mentions KISS, but the game was criticized for it's story that left a lot to be desired.
I learned it from The Office 😅
@@GoldenLeafsMoviesYeah sometimes things are too simple
@@laurendavis4584same
Imagine if the class did a group animation and they overcomplicated it so somebody says
“Guys, we have to kiss”
Which one? I don’t mind doing both~
@@cobylin9192lol me either
It's interesting to see advice be placed in multiple industries. KISS is also used in the tech sector as a guide on how to write clean code
Hey! Those are Aaron Blaise animations! I love Aaron Blaise!
He's great! We have a demo from him coming out in my Drawing Basics course that was so interesting to watch back, long after it was recorded.
Hot
@@ProkoTVanny ways keep it up stupid
yea you owned all of us one u called ua atupid first 🗿
@@ProkoTVLets KISS
"My animation teacher in high school" and then I remember the fact that other people get better opportunities and I shouldn't hate myself over that
_“Keep it simple, stoopid”_ is the greatest line I've ever heard from any teacher. Ill remember it for ever.
This is why I have at least 2 versions of many of my characters. A detailed version for close ups and posters and such...and a simple versions which portrays the character correctly with less details and more emphasis on the shapes themselves
Simplification is a core concept to art, no matter the style. You build all of your art on simple, basic foundations.
How can you make complex drawings look simple? That's what I'm always thinking about when watching 80s & 90s anime OVAs.
I was thinking that, too. People who talk about shape language pretty much always use super-stylized, cartoony characters as an example, but like... what if you're not drawing something where every character has a different unique shape? I want to see this applied to characters like Ami from Sailor Moon or Rei from Evangelion.
I remember when I took a more advanced art class in high school and had to do still lives and portraits. Our art teacher still told us to break it down into shapes. Sometimes it'd have more or less shapes than the one in the video. Then from there you'd gradually add more detail.
So I'd guess they still break it down to shapes. Maybe they look at a wooden mannequin, reference images, or act it out themselves for poses or a complex emotion. It's worth looking into behind the scene stuff or interviews of animators you like for inspiration.
@@Silburificfr
Was just about to comment this
@@Silburific Or more realistic characters like Leon from Resident Evil or Ellie from TLOU
Man, never in my life have i wanted to download a short so much.
KISS is also a mantra in software development. It's universal!
this is why i like cartoony styles, i can really rely on shapes to manage my workflow
keep it simple student
but your teacher is so sweet :)
That puppy run at the beginning is too cute.
I see soooo many people make really complicated characters with intricate markings/design and while they look cool, they are so hard to make art of. this is why i like keeping my characters markings/clothing/design simple and iconic
He called me stupid... but I felt nothing but respect
Luca Hass to be one of my favorite Disney movies. It has every summer vibe and it makes me feel like I’m back in summer especially when it’s winter. Good job Disney and Pixar you really made my life a lot more easier.
Luca is the perfect to movie to just kick back, relax and just chill.
Luca is an amazing movie tbh
I quite agree
Love Aaron Blaise. The animation of the dog and the drawing of the bear is so cool of his.
American animation says keep it simple
Japanese and South Korean Animators: No
yeaaaaaaah uhh those guys go haywire in all the ways...
They still use the same foundation tho. Many anime characters can still be distinguished by shape, color or gestures. There's also different standards for western and eastern animation too
Yeah, it gets to the point that some characters either are ridiculously overly designed or impossible to be told apart cause the artist draws the same face and body shape, only differing in eye and hair color/cut
well, at least at the sketch level. the reason is simply to make it easier and quicker to reproduce. but if ya got an army of animators with bread crums for pay, ya can prob get away with more complex designs layered on top of the basic sketches.
or be like those few people who spend half their life to make a single comic so slowly because they made too much work for themselves and were in too deep to start over.
Stop thinking of the final designs and just really look at the characters, robots, monsters, etc. You'll notice basic shapes reoccurring throughout their artwork.
I always liked the idea that less is more when it comes to character design
You should also keep a reference sheet handy so you can keep sizing consistent relative to the world and to other characters
KISS is such a good mantra for basically everything
The other really important thing for animation is to remember that the most memorable characters should be identifiable even if all you see is a silhouette. Their body shape should be unique enough in your work that even just the silhouette is enough to tell who they are. It's why Minnie Mouse wears a dress and has a bow, instead of relying on less obvious tells like a different color or facial features that may not show all the time.
“Keep it super simple” is better
I really needed this 😂 I'm still working up to character animation but still lack keeping things consistent 😔
Japanese anime really waved goodbye to that tip didn't they
That's because they typically animate fewer frames than other animations.
Happened to see this short again and it’s exactly what I needed to hear to not feel so overwhelmed with learning the basics of character design. Thank you!
The best advice I have ever heard
I understood K.I.S.S as "Keep It Stupidly Simple"
THANK U SO MUCH
U ARE AMAZING
Bro is out here saving my life
Im gonna start using this 😍
Thank you I was really struggling with this❤
My problem is, when i keep my drawing simple, transforming that simple into something more complicated is harder than deez nuts. For example, when i draw an anatomy for a pose, i want to see how my character looks in that pose, so i tried to draw my character above the anatomy to keep the consistency. But when i tried to draw my character, no matter how many times i tried to keep the consistency of the pose, the characters outfit and body, i just cant draw it.
How dare you put a deez in your comment IM CALLING THE GODDAMN POLICE
Best explanation ever❤️
"Keep it simple, stupid!"
Genshin animators would beg to differ
Isn't that all 3D models though?
It's not really that the designs are complicated, the simple shapes and identifiers are there!
The _details_ are what make them seem complicated
I really needed to hear that😅
mfw my general art style and characters I design have realistic proportions and shapes making simplification more difficult :pensive:
Just a reminder that I need to try developing a secondary simplified art style to animate with. That or I can try learning animation on hard mode xd
The dog animating in the beginning is so cute!! I love them!!
Your high-school had an animation studio? 🥺 Mine didn't even have enough teachers and classes to put students into appropriate lessons.
Thank you for fixing all of my issues with just one video
Excellent
The KISS is very helpful! Thank you! ❤
Haha my animation teacher says the same thing. "Keep it simple, stupid". Also rather than saying "everybody understand?" Or "got it?" He says "we hip to the jive?" He's a very good teacher
"What's so fun about animating?"
"I love to kiss!"
Wait why is ghis actually one of the best pieces of advice I've heard for animation? Its so simple and logical but also a game changer! This actually makes me less scared to try more complex animations with different angles!
Oh, so THAT'S why cartoons look so alike nowadays.
Nope! Visual style trends just happen in waves. You get several years where different styles take over for a bit before a new one happens and takes its place.
In the 60s, a LOT looked like that Hannah Barbera Star Trek cartoon, 80s had GI Joe and Thundercats looking series.
It's all trends like clothes! The main thing that changed animation styles now was the shift to symbol animation software. That gave us shows that move like Rick & Morty does, where individual bits are moved, rather than hand drawn. That changed how character designs were made because of the constraints of that animation.
Me who draws Kirby super often:
*But they are already simple-*
This is really helpful to keep in mind for whenever I feel ready to try my hands at animating, thanks🙂
I make animations and I can say, this is extremely important/usefull!
thanks! your actually so awesome and i love these drawings and animations
i hope someday ill be on your level
omg that bulldog is killing me ! So cute !!!
I needed this reminder.
My brain gets extremely impatient when it comes to digital art, mostly because lineart feels much less forgiving than traditional pen and paper. I found an interesting way around it which was to make the pen big, say size 50 or 80, and make large blobs to quickly define the silhouette.
This way, I can use those blobs to make the brain work for the lineart 1000x simpler than if I was making the line art on a blank canvas.
(Note: I do use a new layer for the line art on top of the shape blobs)
His animation teacher would kiss him on the mouth to remind him how complicated things can be
😑
I absolutely needed to be reminded of this! Thanks.
I would love an animation teacher, especially for tips like this
This will be greatly helpful
The keep it simple stupid was personal
Omg, that is very good to know. I'll keep that in mind when I start to work on my Entertainment Design in Animation portfolio. Thanks for sharing! 😊
This helped a lot! Thank you!
It should have been "keep it stupidly smiple
I fine it funny how this pops up when I start thinking of making a comic
Thankfully the characters are very simple
Circle heads
I'm thinking of making a comic someday so this is actually helpful!
*"Just kiss it!"*
-The teacher
_Cal-Arts:_ *"And I took that personally."*
As someone who wants to be an animator, this is helpful. Thank you!
Meanwhile me, having a mostly anime-ish artstyle that I can just memorise the design easily even if it's complicated and can easily recreate any reference photo:
This gives me motivation!! Thanks!!
Absolutely! Learned this and I only started animating last October!
As a teen who would like to become an animator, this really helps. Thanks!
Thank you so much! I'm trying to become an animator myself and have a story a ready thought out so I just need to design characters. I have so many of them so it's hard to keep track! This will help a lot!
dude that’s the acronym that my teacher constantly used years ago.
I’ve been drawing for a long time and I never really understood the shape thing people were talking about but this actually helped me understand the shape thing and is going to help me in the future a lot
Love the work of Aaron Blaise, Brother Bear is one of my favorite animated films
Thank you for your advice iv'e been struggling with animation
I tell my students “Keep it simple silly,” but I work at an elementary school.
Disney called. They want their animator back.
Man he just made me rethink my entire time drawling
🤯
I still always feel bad when he said the stupid part lol.
That opening had me thinking a dog had stumbled onto the set of Brother Bear 3 😂😂
Fun fact kiss is also taught in programming
Everyone, just remember: KISS
That KISS at the end was all 😂😂
The worst she can say is "No"
Her : "KISS"
genshin impact: we don’t do that here
I always forget this 😭
I love how u came in my shorts outa nowhere and i love it 😂❤
Oh, breads... I forget about this simple thing but *VERY* important thing of drawing
Thank you for you reminded it
I thought it was going about dont add all these small details to your characters but i guess its kinda related to it
That'll definitely help me remember my characters...
But the thing that helps me the most to remember how handsome and attractive I find you is when I get a notification of when you've posted a new video 😍🤣