SETUP NOVUSUN CONTROLLER AND MACH 3 WITH HUANYANG VFD TO RUN SPINDLE
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2018
- Update June 2022: This video was made before I purchased the Open Builds Black Box. I no longer runs this controller or Mach3. This system was just too glitchy and unreliable with many problems arising after I made this video. I highly recommend the Black Box for simplicity, cost and ease of setup.
How to configure a Huanyang VFD with a NVUM Nosvusun CNC Controller to run spindle from MACH 3 cnc software. Includes wiring and basic VFD settings.
Amazing information, I appreciate it. This helped me make a final decision about purchasing this controller. Replacing an old Shopbot electronics system that's going bad.
Again, thanks for the info!
glad I could help
I almost bought that breakout board but I opted for the cheaper one. It works but I might get that one you got because I'm having issues setting up the ports because it's a USB card.
Thank you for the video. I have the exact same setup but I cant get the spindle to start using mach3. can you do a video showing what setting you set in mach3 or tell me what boxes you checked on the mach 3 spindle tab any help would be great. yes I do have the jumper set to VI? GREAT JOB! Thanks
Top! Parabéns.
1. The novusun board must be setup on 24V in order to send voltage via VSO and out1. It doesn’t work if only on USB.
2. The out1 on Mach3 must be configured to port #2 and pin #1 and Active Low. Don’t ask me why?
3. Read carefully the Huanyang manual in order to setup the configuration to read from the board terminals. Mine is : Pd001=1, pd002=1, pd044=2, pd070=0.
4. I wired the ground close to Out1 on novusun to DCM on Huanyang. I don’t know if it make difference but I think is more on the safe side.
Hi, what are the parameters you configured on PWM control? I only can get 10.43 v on the VSO output, so the spindle velocity is the maximum and i can't change. Thanks.
I have te same problem.
You found a solution.
same here, did you ever get a fix
I've got the nvum-sp and I've followed all the steps but I'm not sure I've got Mach 3 set up right. I can power up the spindle but I can't adjust the rpm and there's no rpm read out it's all or nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
good afternoon my friend what is the difference of this NVUM controller for the other models which would be the advantages could help me pos i will assemble a cnc milling machine and wanted to know which would be the best choice for the controller.
Hello !!!
Please show how to connect and control PWM
Thank you
Really its a useful information for mt DIY project, can you plz give a additional information that if we are connecting a brown wire in to out-2 on the breakup board, which terminal will get connect in the VFD.
I think you need to connect to REV on HuanYang
hello, do you know how to connect the vfd with only one single terminal? i have something like that i dont know how to connect.Thanks.
Can you please share the ports & pins configuration for spindle motor
Hanyoung Inverter nvem v2 board connection Question: Can I connect the board gnd1>inverter dcm,board gnd1>inverter acm,board vso>inverter vi,board out1> inverter for???
Great
I've spent hours and hours and hours trying to get MACH 3 to see my NVEM on the network or direct connect. I can ping the device no problem.. installed the drivers, plugin, xml blah blah multiple times and still nothing... I'm about to turn this sucker into a street hockey puck and attempt to slap shot.
I know this is super old post. Did you disable the Firewall on the computer?
Hola, tengo un problema, en sentido FOR me va todo bien pero cuando cambio a REV empieza lento y se para. Porque puede ser? En FOR me gira en sentido antihorario y me gustaria que girara en sentido horario
can the NVUM 4 Axis Mach3 USB Card 200KHz be used with mach4?
Hi Bob I have the same setup as you have. Can you tell me which NVUM driver you used because I've tried everyone I could find with no luck.
this is the NV E M page on their site (NV UM is a different page) and the drivers are listed to download - dont put multiple drivers in. remove drivers when altering mach3 settings.
www.nvcnc.net/nvem.html
Hi, it would be great if you make video as mach3 settings for spindle
Hi Armas, I'd be glad to but for now there's some videos out there you should be able to follow on this topic. I've switched spindles and since then have had problems getting the speed control to work. Once I figure this out I will make a video. Are you having trouble getting MACH3 to run you spindle?
That knock off can you tell me which lines to hook up to what for the spindle?
Hello, I am thinking of using a DC Motor Spindle. I want to use NVBDL+ as the Spindle Driver and NVEM as the CNC Breakout Board. I want to control the Spindle Speed with PWM. What is the appropriate connection between NVBDL+ and NVEM?
I’m sorry I’m not familiar with the NVBDL
What mach3 settings are you using? I have the yl620-a and the nvum 2, but can't get it to working. I do have the spindle making a noise when I hit the start button, but it quickly goes back off and never spins. I am sure I have it wired correctly.
did you fix it i am also stuck in same situation
@@MeneerGaming nope. I've since moved so haven't had much time to put into it, but I've decided to change to a rs485 connection to control spindle speed as it's much easier and gives better control. Still using the controller to turn the spindle on/off
@@ulkesh78 Ahh owk hope the move went great. how did you manage to turn it on and off what were your mach 3 settings and connections on the vfd. Do you maby have pictures?
Thank you
my wiring is all set up correctly as per what i see on your video and referencing manual. but i can't get the spindle to control via mach 3. i can get the spindle to turn on but cannot adjust the rpms? if anyone could help i'd really appreciate it
thanks
yeah i have the same issue.
Bob, which manual did you follow to set this thing up? I stupidly bought the ethernet Version 2 card from Lollette and I just can't get this thing to move a motor. Following their manual is near impossible since the translation is total garbage.
Did you have to change any settings on windows before you got Mach3 to run? I was able to install the plugins for NVEM/NVUM and they're active in Mach3. Went through all the Ports/Pins setup following the images on their manuals but nothing works. They also mentioned in the manual that the "status" section should say something like NVEUM "loaded" but I don't see anything in that dialogue box. Its just blank.
I know you have limited time for UA-cam comments but if you have time to respond that would be wonderful!
I plan on writing a setup manual if I can get this to run.
Thanks in advance!
LogicSpeaks Im using the usb Model and got the manual by googling and finding their website. Didn’t change any windows settings but you need to make sure you installed the driver and drag and drop it into the mach3 driver folder(thats the actual install process) then when you start mach 3 you’ll have to select it every time
@@bobbildz8865 hey, thanks for responding! I didn't actually know your responded, but I had figured out how to connect via another individual's video.
I do however have another question for you of you don't mind.
I was wondering if you ran in to a similar problem. I have a4 motor setup (dual motor for the X axis) and for whatever reason, the X axis will only go one direction when I use the arrow keys. All other motors run fine.
Any idea what it could be?
I have the same controller and I have been trying to figure out the speed control from within mach 3. I have it switching it on and off but I can't adjust the speed.
Chris George Chris George you have to make sure the wires are correct as I show for VSO and Ground. Also make sure the VFD setting on pd044 is set to 1
@@bobbildz8865 thank you I had one hooked up wrong I am going to blame that on not enough coffee before I started
Don't know what I'm doing wrong I have the same setup and I can get my spindle to work on Mach3
I have a weg inverter how could I make this connection?
Should you get the Novus NVEM? The answer is a resounding "NO." So I
wired it all up once I figured I had gotten defective drivers. I
received my replacements, and all was well. The CNC was running
perfectly. Smooth movement, got my E stop ready, and my Zeroing plate
ran perfectly. It seemed all was well. I didn't connect my spindle to
the NVEM (Version 2).
I attempted to finally run a file I setup
with fusion 360 and and it then suddenly started to do weird things
like the emergency stop started to go off randomly. Then suddenly it
just stopped working. The ethernet port no longer received a connection
(lights are dead) and even one of the lights that indicates the device
is on suddenly didn't come on anymore. There is now just 1 red light
and nothing happens.
I turn on the device now and it just wants to drive my motors into my stops.
I
have to say, this is worse than just wasting money. I wasted valuable
time and energy into getting this piece of garbage to work. I seriously
think the people that have one working are just lucky. This thing is
seriously not worth the money. On to go buy my smoothieboard instead
that has an amazing amount of information I can actually read. For
anyone else interested, check them out here:
smoothieware.org/smoothieboard
Finally, I'm just pissed now.
LogicSpeaks while I can say the nvum been just ok for me I wouldn’t recommend it. I’d like to see your progress with the smoothieboard so please post some vids.
@@bobbildz8865 yeah I'm excited about it now actually. I plan on documenting what I can and will gladly share what I figured out. The fact that Arthur figured out how to setup the auto tool changer using smoothieboard is amazing.
Plus, you don't have top use mach3 anymore. Not that mach3 is bad - it works very well.
Hi Bob, I have same NVUM V2 controller. Whem I run gcode my Mach3 stops in the middle sporadically. I have few issues with USB errors as well. Any ideas?
Not sureHyrdo Farms..I just started with this controller and have had some weird things happen in the middle of programs as well. I'm going to run a few more this weekend and see how it goes before switching controllers. Hope that's not necessary.
@@bobbildz8865 which controller are you switching to? I am currently looking to shop to. Are you still going to use your same drivers?
Not 100% sure yet but inclined to check out Planet CNC just don't know about learning new software as I'm used to MACH3. Otherwise may need to bite the bullet and get a MASSO and yes still using same drivers don't think theyre the problem.
Hey Hydro,
My "version 2" NVEM uses ethernet. Any idea how to set this thing up for Mach3? Did yours work out of the box?
@@LogicSpeaks here is the manual www.lollette.com/support/pdf/CNC/DS_NVEM_EN.pdf
I have same problem nvem wire connect same as you video but can't speed control on mach3 only spindle can turn on and off speed is 24000 need help
Vfd setting is pd001=1, pd002=1, pd041=1
Oops pd044= 1
Setup:
Windows xp
mach3
Novusun NVUM v2 controller
Knock off askpower VFD (i think)
This is my 1st major cnc build, and i am at the final hurdle - controlling the spindle via mach3 and a vfd. The novusun control board (which has caused endless confusion) is a usb parallel port emulator. Where I am currently, is the vfd reads frequency when the Spindle cw control is pressed on mach3, however, the spindle won't come to life regardless of which pin outs i put it on. The spindle works fine with the VFD in manual mode which rules out some problems, I am just very confused about the relationship between mach3 and the novusun NVUM and how this controls the spindle. Anyone got any experience with this kind of setup?
they change the software of NVUM,. maybe because of FREQUENCY Problem, i think,..
Hi, how did you solve the spindle speed problem?
Ultimately I had to revert to the manual spindle control on the VFD. I was only able to turn the spindle on or off in the end with Mach 3. With the OpenBuilds BlackBox controller I've had no problems. The technology is superior, the software easy to setup and run. The logic is processed on board vs the NVUM which relies on MACH3 to do the processing and this creates missed steps and anomalies such as the spindle problem (although the spindle problem could be the fault of NVUM just not sure)
What is the A axis for?
darktermi1993 the a axis will be your slave axis for the second motor most likely on your y axis
Hi, can you help me with same type Novusun controller setting in mach3?
Hi make sure your motor outputs has spindle checked green. Also make sure in the spindle setup tab in ports and pins that the pwm selection is on. You may have to play with the PWM base frequency to get your spindle to run correctly. In motor output you may need to toggle the hi/low setting to see which activates your spindle. This is for speed control.
For turning on the spindle your output pin1 is what activates the spindle so make sure that it is activated in ports and pins under outputs.
Sorry but I dont have MACH3 in front of me I'm going off of memory so the names I'm using aren't exact, maybe
Honestly, I've had problems with the spindle speed control. It seems to be the way the VFD is resetting and it's not detecting the PWM signal from MACH3 . I haven't had time to check the PWM signal output from MACH3 so not sure what the problem is. I can still turn on the spindle in MACH3 though so am ruining it with the potentiometer on the VFD for now.
I think NVUM is turning out to be a deal where we get what we paid for. I'll update my channel as I make progress and have time. Hope this helps a bit feel free to ask more
@@robertz3806 Hi, thank you. But I don't have spindle motor. Unfortunately I have problem with the controller settings in the mach3. Possible to get pictures from all your mach3 settings please? by email or by any instant message?
Peter Gal what problems are you having? The nvm website has the install manual in English that gives you the Mach3 settings. Try this first if that's not a fix likely there's a hardware problem I'd say
@@bobbildz8865 Hi. My controller doesn't work with them settings. I don't understand why. I am used other settings, now working but always run over. I am tried to setup limit switches, but the machine run over in all directions. I am tried to setup limit without limit switches, but can't find any options.
So your controller is powering up and the steppers run correctly? If your limit switches aren't working make sure you have Mach3 inputs on for the input ports you're using for those switches. It could be active high or low depending how you connected the cable to the switch if the switch has three tabs. I checked mine with multimeter so when pressed the switch passes current so they're active high. The controller has input ports labeled.
So I have to say, this NVEM Novus is full of mysteries. I'm beginning to think its a huge piece of wasted money.
So I connected all drives, everything 100% certain correctly wired. My X
axis with a slaved motor (Dual drive) would only move one direction
(either arrow key drives it the same direction). So I took Y and Z
drives, and wired them to the X dual drive - the X drive would work
perfectly (Moves both directions depending on the key pressed).
Now, I wired an additional motor - Y - it moves only 1 direction now. Did the same thing with Z - moves only one direction.
I have no idea what this means but if anyone has an idea please let me know.
Otherwise, I'm just buying a smoothieboard and let this be my last mistake when buying garbage with terrible information.
Hi sorry to hear you’re having so much trouble and yes I have to admit that at the outset I wasn’t too pleased with this controller but I stuck with it and have found that some of the settings in Mach3 were actually the problem. However I do have to say that the spindle control at this point is only working for me on and off and am no longer able to control the speed which for my particular application is acceptable. But I can see That for somebody else That probably won’t be the case. You need to make sure that the resolution in the settings for your particular drive motors are correct and you can play with those and you need to make sure that your Y motor is independent of your X axis and Your second text motor should be slaved there are videos on UA-cam on how to slave a motor. You had a lot of information there quite honestly I’m a little bit lost but I can say at this point if you have Mach III running with novasuns latest driver it’s decent for the money. Yes there a better systems out there but for 4 to 5 times the price.
@@bobbildz8865
Hiya,
Thanks for all of the suggestions. I think the conclusion I have come down to is that 2 of the 4 drivers I purchased are defective. Basically, I have tested the "working" drivers that I have which move the motor in both directions on every connection of the NVEM and they all work properly. The suspected bad drivers on the other hand don't work properly - they move only 1 direction. I have tested the good and bad ones on different motors I just had laying around, and they behaved the same way. The good ones spun the motor in either direction, and the bad ones only spun it 1 direction. Thanks for taking all of your time to attempt to help me. I appreciate it!