VFD Spindle Control via OpenBuilds BlackBox Controller and Software
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- Опубліковано 1 січ 2020
- Here is a tutorial on how to setup your VFD and OpenBuilds BlackBox to accept control from the OpenBuilds Control Software. Follow the wiring in the video above.
****DISCLAIMER*****
These settings work and have only been confirmed to work with the 1.5Kw, 110v, 24,000RPM Spindle and HY01D511B VFD Controller! I have not tested these on any other VFD or with any other Spindles! Please take caution if using these settings with any other VFD/Spindle Combination. I take no responsibility if you fry your stuff!!!
****END DISCLAIMER****
Here are the VFD Settings. Do set these in this order:
PD013 = 8
PD001 = 1
PD002 = 1
PD005 = 400
PD004 = 400
PD008 = 110 (This is for 110V systems. If you are using 220V set this to 220)
PD024 = 1
PD070 = 0
PD072 = 400
PD144 = 3000
Set GRBL settings in OpenBuilds Control software to the following:
$30 = 24,000 (or whatever your maximum RPM setting is of your spindle)
$31 = 0
Link to my Spindle and VFD:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
Link to AirPump:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
Links to other info I used to help figure this out:
openbuilds.com/threads/please...
docs.openbuilds.com/blackbox/...
Here are links to download the different GRBL Post Processors that include the 8 second pause:
Fusion360: / 770491973473924
SoldworksCAM (File 1 of 2): / 770499930139795
SolidworksCAM (File 2 of 2): / 770500186806436
VCarve Pro: / 770500830139705
Let me know if you have any questions in the comments below! - Наука та технологія
Thank you so much for this walkthrough. Worked on first try on my 2,2kw version of yours.
Awesome video, thank you!!!
Saved me hours, possibly days of research...worked perfectly the first time!
The VR to VI jumper, cant begin to think how long it would of taking me to know that without this videa, thanks.
Glad I could help!
And still it's the wrong way to do it...
Thank you so much for this! You got me 90% of the way there. I now have my CNC router up & running. Thank you!
@Donni Dachitrosi - Fair. I was having a lot of problems with EMF triggering the limit switches. I upgraded the switches and it seems to have solved the problems.
The ability to adjust the spindle speed with a couple button clicks is really handy. And better yet, increasing/decreasing speed for different cuts is pretty slick.
Your video keeps helping people over here! Ty
Great video, helped me out thanks!
Great video. I thought I had followed your directions completely and it would not run. I found that I had set PD004 before PD005 and it does not run that way. I reset it and set PD005 first and now it works as it should.
Awesome video Thanks for sharing!!
This video is perfect. I walked thru and was all set up the first time around. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the video, great job. A couple items of note is that when I set up my VFD exactly as you stated I got the Spindle to run but it spooled up very slowly and then the VFD gave me an error [E.o.L.A] and the spindle shut down. After mucking about and swearing at it, I then set PD014 to 3.0 and PD015 to 5.0 and I also noticed that PD003 was set to 0, when I do that it will not run correctly and I get errors so I set it 400 and it's perfect now.
Thanks I was worried about setup until I seen your video !!!
Glad I could help
Going to do the same set up thanks for the info, Question, Do you feel that the 1.5 Kw spindle is acquitted, or would you recommend the 2.2 ?
Great video!
Brilliant thanks a lot for doing this, I have the same set up but for 220 so Perfecto Senor! Machismo Gracias hasta Espana....
Great video i am just about done I see you turn your spindle cooling water is tuned on in the program but how do you wire the pump and black box up to do so.
Thanks,
Kevin.
Fantastic Video Thank you. I was struggling for a couple of days until you pointed out the jumper on the inverter box that needed to be switched in conjunction with PD002. Out of curiosity, are you using a relay to turn on the water pump?
Yes. I have the IOT power strip that turns on my water pump and air compressor.
I did exactly as you said. I have the same vfd but with air cooled spindle. Works except when sending the turn off signal or just slows to 10k rpm even tho it’s set to 0 rpm in grbl
Did you reset all settings on the VFD before setting the settings in the video?
This helped a lot, but PD0003 which is the mains frequency had to be set at 60 for mine to work. thanks!
THANKS!
I have that exact same spindle and model number. I understand everything about how to set it up, but where did you ground the 110V power coming from the wall? I see the white and black and there's a green wire hanging but, I don't know where you grounded it. Thanks in advance!
I have a question do you power your vfd separately.? Do you have the black box and the vfd powered by your power supply?
This is SUPER helpful, thank you. I am still selecting my vfd and spindle package so I will revisit later, but can you add a short description for what each of the 'PD' settings is? The 110 is 110 vac vs 220 is 220vac. The others seem to be random numbers, 400, 400, etc. I'm sure they mean something. Thanks again.
Nicholas Giardino when you get your vfd/ spindle the manual that comes with it tells you exactly what each parameter does. The 400’s are hertz that are the maximum that the spindle can run at.
Wow this is awesome itoo was struggling with the black box setting controlling the setup through the black box! Thank you for this because I was frustrated that the BB wouldn't control the feed and speed!! Thank you!!!!Did youmodify any thing inside the BB move any pins around inside?
There is one jumper inside that needs to be changed. Its noted in the video.
@@BirdsEyeTech ok I'll go back and rewatch thank you!!
plus where did you ground the spindle? There's four wires coming from the spindle and one is the ground. What did you ground it to?
Do you have a video or tutorial of the changes you made to your post processor?
Before my coffee I thought the $ on the left was charging you for each feature line you implement in the software. LOL. Then I realized its just GRBL commands LOL
Haha that's awesome. Could get expensive with all those $ in the code.
Hey now, don't be giving these companies any ideas! We might end up with a microtransaction model LOL
Hi I am completely new to all this how can I learn about using this software for the first time, also not a computer person
Thanks fora this. Looking to get a 1.5. But what amps are you pulling while running? My shop is limited to a 20amp breaker
I'm on a 15 amp and been fine.
@@BirdsEyeTech curious what amount of draw do you normally have?
@@michaelgriffin2914 if I remember correctly, at 18k RPM maybe 3-4 amps. Lower the RPM, the higher the amp draw. 3-4k rpm was in the 10amp range of believe. I honestly haven't looked lately so don't fully remember.
Can you tell me how you added the commands to turn on your air pump and spindle? I want to add a pause and turn on my dust collection system, but I only know how to do it maually. It would be nice if it was automatically added in Aspire and output the grbl code somehow. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks for the video as well.
Did you figure this out?
Is the VFD not grounded?? Seeing nothing connected to the earth terminal (far right bottom row of black terminals on VFD at 0:38 second mark)
What does the 400 mean on 5,4 and 72? I have a spindle we are running at 18000 rpm and the normal value on the vfd is 300.00 at 18000 rpm - should I be setting 300 where you have 400?
I believe it's Hz, cycles per second.
Do you use a touch probe? After I installed my VFD and spindle my probe seems to be in the closed position when I clip it to the bit.
I don't use one on this machine. It's quicker for me to just do it all manually.
Anyone having issues with the spindle stopping with the newest blackbox I’m running at like 2rpms when I turn tool off. My min max rpm is set to 24k and 0. I can also hit the stop and it stops but I can’t start it without resetting the vfd.
Mines is not stopping but its stuck at 8000 when i turn it off still working with it now
@@WoodWorkDoneBetter Have you figured it out how figured out how to get the spindle to stop at 0 rpm? I am at this stage in my build.
@@travellingpilot same problem for me... after the spindle starts spinning, the lowest I can make it go is about 5000rpm. wont go to 0 and i have to unplug the vfd power to reset it. did you get past this?
how big is your CNC...im designing mine now and im trying to figure out how i want to set up gantry and such. im going for 1500mm wide since i want to be able to throw half sheet up. I was also looking at the 2.2kw spindle. i would love to see a clean vid of just your printer so i can see how you built it and steal some ideas.
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@@gregoryayres1535 This looks like the Lead 1515 to me, so it's a 1500x1500mm
PD001 = 1
PD002 = 1
PDOO3 = 400
PD004= 400
PD005 = 400
PD008 = 110 (IF YOU HAVE 220 SPINDLE SET)
PD024 = 1
PD070 = 0
PD072 = 400
PD144 = 3000
In the same VFD I cant able to read / write any parameters... Why..?
i am using the same settings and mine only gives me 6k rpm no matter what i set it to
I got the 2.2kw 110v spindle. Would the settings be same?
I believe so.
How did you wire up the cooling pump to turn on with m8?
It's using the OpenBuilds relay power strip that's available on their site.
I have the same VFD and spindle. I cannot for the life of me get it to run full speed via the blackbox. M3/M5 work to start/stop. If I type in M3 S24000 it is topping out around 17,900. Adjusting the voltage on the blackbox 0-10v does adjust the speed output but again, I cannot get it to 18,000. I have gone though all the various VFD settings I can think of to no avail.
Did it go to 24k before hooking up to the BlackBox?
@@BirdsEyeTech Yes it did. I found a few more Settings to change - now the 0 -10v doesn't change the speed but it runs slightly faster than intended (within 200 RPM at 22K
@@bobfournier113 have you put a voltmeter on the 0-10v output to see if it's working?
@@BirdsEyeTech Yes it did. I'm happy with the results now - it's not perfect but if I set the tool setting at 105% it's within 100 rpm at 24000 - all i did was change the wire from braided to solid.
Beer. Owe you one. Or two.
No ground on the AC 😔
It's grounded
did you need a new mount for the spindle on the LEAD 1010?
This is what I need to know also
@Cnc guru 1 the spindle comes with the mount but it's to big for the 1010 or the 1515(which I have) so you need to fabricobble something together
@@EricHaskins71 was worried that would be the case. Thanks i think I’ll bite the bullet and buy one and make a plate to suite. How have you been getting on with the spindle?
I use vectric do you know if the 0-10v from black box to the vfd is a given the voltage dependant on what spindle speed is set?
@Cnc guru 1 I haven't mounted mine yet lol... I use vectric as well. The voltage is how the speed is adjusted
@Cnc guru 1 I have been upgrading my 1515 to queen bee mods linear rails etc